From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Military Action is needed and Border Patrols spread-out half a mile apart with the american supplied drones flying overhead, we can eliminate the entry of illegals in ONE week if done right..... Stop all buses coming from the border towns , the drivers are in cahoots with the smugglers ( I have seen this myself)
From: United States, Vivir sin Patria, es lo mismo que vivir sin Honor.
I'm waiting anxiously to see what Danilo plans to do to resolve the issue. I hope he has his pantalones well fasten or we're screwed.....
Written by: telemeco, 8 Aug 2012 11:26 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
Like or not,,,We need to intervene in Haitian affair to safeguard our own interested. I rather have a barking dog in chain that a lose dog just waiting to bite you without a moment notice
Written by: Danilo, 8 Aug 2012 11:52 AM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Eh pa fuera que van!
Written by: vacanos, 8 Aug 2012 11:58 AM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
"Conservative FNP"
That is the right word CONSERVATIVE. When we were governed by Conservative nationalists we didn't have this problem that is about absolve our country. Say what you want about Trujllo at least the bastard drew a line when Haitians were taking over our country little by little peacefuly. So dominating were the Haitians that from the outskirt of Santiago to Dajabobn the Haitians currency was the one that was mostly used.
If it weren't by a few dinosour Conservatives still around by this time we would has been absolved. You know the one that had been labeled racists including by our own liberals traitor.
Liberalism do not care about Nationalism. What they hold tight to their heart is their beliefs of ideas.
Written by: Atabey, 8 Aug 2012 12:06 PM
From: United States, NYC
I've stated so many times before, these pronouncements by the NGOs and UN representatives all point to a dumping of the Haitian Question unto the Dominican Republic. It's been brewing in the minds of many international "experts" and historians for a very long time. I recall having a conversation with one of my history professors and he was completely for the unification of the island. When I asked him if he'd ever been to both places, he said no, but he thought the idea of borders between nations a silly concept. I told him that when countries had similar levels of socio-economic development, say like Canada and the USA, or Germany and France, or Spain and Portugal, it was far easier to contemplate an open border notion for nations.
Written by: admin, 8 Aug 2012 12:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic, DN
Atabey, you taught your professor a good lesson!
Taking this action can easily destabilize our country and move us towards "failed" status.
Written by: vacanos, 8 Aug 2012 12:28 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Atabey "professors and he was completely for the unification of the island. When I asked him if he'd ever been to both places, he said no, but he thought the idea of borders between nations a silly concept."
Exactly that professor's beliefs is what they hold dear to their heart. I had been saying here for the longest Liberals belieft in the INTERNATIONALE. They created the International Socialists (PRD is a member) with the purpose of creating one entity without border.
From: United States, NYC
They should built a 40 foot wall between haiti and the Dominican Republic Keep the haitians out of my country , we have enough problems in our side . here is haiti idea let them in DR and they will eat us alive and than they will take over the whole island , if the goverment havent notice now we are under a haitian pacific invacion little at the time they will try to revolt against the dominicans . you will see . In DR right now there over a millions haitians , go back to where you came from
Written by: Atabey, 8 Aug 2012 1:08 PM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: admin,
Atabey, you taught your professor a good lesson!"
Well, I don't think he and his group care too much how these small nations look at things. In the international arena, the big nations act and the smaller nations are expected to follow or face unpleasant returns. Don't know if Medina's Administration is being given "the talk" as in:
"You follow the script or those plans of yours will not find funding"
We lack a strong leadership group that's able to defend our interests while not necessarily causing too much distance from the "powers that be" A lot of this stems from a lack of imagination involving the Haitian Question. Arguably, there's truth in the notion that a broadly defined mix of countries could indeed take in a significant portion of Haiti's excess population; thus minimizing the total impact on any one nation in the world. The time to have advanced such a position was right after the tragic events of 2010. The world's attention was
Written by: Atabey, 8 Aug 2012 1:11 PM
From: United States, NYC
clearly on Haiti, and it's :15 minutes could have gone to reaching some international consensus around a shared burden. Instead, we never advanced such a position, nor had others send up trial balloons to see if there was some traction to this innovative notion.
I remember stating that the French should take up such a policy within the Franco-World Community of nations. Many of those states that have a loose affiliation could have been persuaded to take in some Haitians on an annual basis. With a similar program in the Americas, the close to 60 or more nations could make the Haitian Question a solvable puzzle in 10 years time.
But in order for such a gambit to have any chance of consideration IT HAS TO BE MADE PUBLIC!
Our leadership group, including the President LF and Co., and others in society appear to react to events INSTEAD of being PRO-ACTIVE. When you allow others to decide what is possible, you suffer the pain of your ideas being dumped without a chance.
Written by: generoso, 8 Aug 2012 1:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
No country is dumb enough to have "an open border" with a failed state like Haiti and even worse intervened by the UN.
If Germany and France where a collapsed state, there could be no "open borders" or the euro.
Overseas the news are reported with a bias towards the DR, and make us pose as discriminating against the "poor black Haitians", as if Dominicans where white Aryans.
Sorry to say but the unification crowd is winning the PR war, and each day that the border remain porous, more Haitians are being trucked in, just for that purpose.
Send the do not nothing and fat DR army, at least four divisions to police the border, instead of being marched around, like toy soldiers, in public parades.
Written by: tartesos, 8 Aug 2012 2:47 PM
From: United States
Open the border, and then we would have a failed Island and need for help for 2 contries instead of one. this situation is not sustainable, and even with an open border, the Dominican side resources are not enough for both countries... plain and simple! there is no solution by unifying the island( and it would not be a peaceful one)...
As Atabey well put, the whole world needs to take part, and take some haitians in educate them and hopefuly they come back( but they never come back).
nobody wants to help Haiti, and we need to make the world know that unifying the island is not feasible and is NOT an OPTION!.
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
I'm already seeing the need to form an organization to fight for our country. There are tens of Haitians NGO's fighting to force on us a very vast Haitian agenda, and they are doing it with our tax pesos.
We must beat these people at their own game:
1-we MUST not hire Haitian labor
2-we MUST hold accountable our authorities for letting this get out of hand
3-we MUST elect into office Dominican men and women with a real nacionalist vision
4-we MUST educate our people about this issue
5-we MUST send all the illegals back, and then give a work permit to those that would be let back in
for a season job
6-if such worker abandon his/her job to persue something else not related to what this person was hired, this person should lose the right to come into our country forever
7-all Haitian NGO's should be consider illegal in our territory
8- we must spread the word about this issue to our friends and families
We must fight for our future as Dominican.
From: United States
I think we're on a slippery slope whenever we oversimplify complex issues with terms like "liberals" and "conservatives". There are merits in both perspectives. Historically any gains that were made for the benefit of workers and laborers anywhere in the world were ushered in by "liberals". It was and is when liberalism breaches the normative boundaries and begins to breed a sort of passive, pathetic, laziness and entitlement that it gets the well deserved "black eye".
Conservatism too has its merits. Especially when it arrives as the savior of those of us who pulled ourselves up by our own boot traps, went to work and sacrificed for everything that we have. When it creates jobs and inspires ingenuity and new development conservatism is great. But like liberalism, conservatism also has a tendency to breach the parameters of reason and civility where more value is placed on capital interests than human lives.
From: United States
The real humane and lasting solution lies somewhere in between the two (liberal and conservative). This is the "gray area" that neither the advocates on either side wish to broach. It is because to solve these myriad of problems requires compromise and hard decisions....some of which have stinging and painful short-term consequences.
We can start the process by being less emotional and more sincere and mature in our criticism of both sides. for example...
DONT_BE_SILENT says..
"1-we MUST not hire Haitian labor"
(Isn't it the conservative landowners and big business that hire the bulk of these Haitians?)
"2-we MUST hold accountable our authorities for letting this get out of hand"
(Big business controls "our authorities". It has gotten out of hand because the authorities don't answer to the people. Until the people figure out how to wrestle the mantle away from big business and place it in the hands of the people we're just talking hot air.)
Written by: vacanos, 8 Aug 2012 4:43 PM
From: United States, An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Papicarlos
On this particular issue of our Haitian problem It is fair to say whether in Europe, Canada, UN or either at the USA behind the Clintons,black caucus, Spanish caucus, ect . The Liberals is at the forefront pushing us to create fusion with Haiti?
From: United States
"5-we MUST send all the illegals back, and then give a work permit to those that would be let back in for a season job."
(Why not advance and spread the "conservative" ideals of hard work, work ethics, and honest days work for an honest day's pay so that fellow Dominicans will be encouraged to get up off their butts and leave the dominoes tables and bottles of Presidente for the end of the day, and do some real work for a change? Why even set aside these jobs for Haitians? Dominicans are just as strong and able-bodied..aren't they?)
"7-all Haitian NGO's should be consider illegal in our territory" (The Dominican police force is already stretched to its limit. If there are not any NGO's to meet some of the needs of these people they will find an illegal way of meeting their needs.)
While my fiscal ideals are conservative, I am a man of God who has compassion for God's Creation, especially human beings (ideals that are typically espoused by liberals). Perhaps I am a libertarian. :)
From: United States
Vacanos, you raise a very interesting point. It is precisely the point that I, for one, think is really at the crux of the issue.
DONT_BE_SILENT is correct when he/she says
"we MUST educate our people about this issue" But the question is what kind of education? Are we going to continue to spread the lies and propaganda of both sides and continue to ignore the historical facts? As long as we continue to ignore the role that France, Britain and the United States played in the historical destabilization of Haiti from it's inception and up till this very day, and then point the finger of responsibility to correct the mess that these three nations have made, we will continue to be used as "pawns in the game" of chess being played by the nationalists (conservatives) and the liberals, both of whom are seemingly unable or unwilling to place the burden of once and for all solving the Haitian issue exactly where it should lie...on the doorsteps of France, the United States, and Britain..
From: United States
A movement, a genuine people's movement that moves away from this language of divide and conquer and away from simply calling Haiti a "failed state" while ignoring the evil nations who were parties to that failure is a mature and enlightened movement. Anything short of that just a flash in the pan outburst of emotionalism that will ultimately be usurped and used as a tool by both sides to forge an agenda that leaves the Dominican people on the outside looking in.
The university that was opened on the Haitian side was a step in the right direction. I applaud LF for his efforts in that regard. But it should not be the responsibility of the Dominican government and its people to clean up the mess that super powers like France, the USA and Great Britain made. It is unfair and downright immoral to drop this burden on DR, and this is an American who is saying so.
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
I have said before it is like South Africa with its border with Botswania and Mozambique ,,,,more than 13 million have crossed into South Africa and have caused much disharmony and ecomomic and social problems ,,the borders are too long toput up barriers but the SA government does it best to rid itself of these illiegal visitors .
There is no way that the DR should grant any amnesty
From: United States, Earth
"an international plot to keep the Dominican government from effectively enforcing its immigration policy"
When has the Dominican government EVERY effectively enforced its immigration policy??? Lets be honest. Like WHERE did the Government think all those Haitian cane cutters would go??? That they would not have families and build communities?? That they would just disappear into thin air??
NOW they wanna be firm and solidified and determined and to be taken seriously?? Yea right. Its too late now. Now an entirely new approach has to be taken to even begin to correct things. The Haitian Government is still a pitiful shell of authority and unfortunately poverty can't wait for the sickening bureaucracy it takes to put practical help on the ground. There are Church groups doing more as we speak. If it wasn't for the greed and corruption the Dominican Government just MAY have been able to escape the storm thats now brewing. But now the appearance of culpability will be sufficien
From: United States
I applaud the well thought out and written statements of everyone that has commented on this article. As a self-proclaimed fervent nationalist I am against political unification with a nation that has caused the retardation of our developement by 1) forcing many of our better educated and wealthier families to abandon our country during the invasions at the turn of the 19th century, which had the benefit of abolishing slavery on the Spanish side but subjected our ancestors to the brutality and racism of Jean Jacque Dessalines. 2) The usurption of our independence and burdening of the country with their cowardly indemnity to france to spare them further military action during the 1820's to 1844. 3) The loss of our democratic ideals espoused by our illustrious father of OUR nation Juan Pablo Duarte by their subsequent and futile attempts to conquer our lands in 1848, 1852, and 1856, which forced us to be ruled by iron men like Pedro Santana instead of enlightened men like Duarte.
From: United States
Cont:
These continuous unprevoked attacks subsequently led to voluntary(by an aging Santana) annexation to Spain and another 5 years of war for independence, furhter retardation of our developement and more families leaving their homeland. The constant Haitian threat bred a Caudillo mentality which had kept us as a backward Latin American banana dictatorship throughout the late 19th century and past the mid 20th century. It wasn't until the Haitian threat was totally nullified through superior military power and the brutal expulsion the last time they invaded(though peacefully when again North American intervention brought and allowed many of them to cross the border illegally) that enlightened and democratically minded men like Juan Bosch and Coronel Rafael Thomas Fernandez Dominguez came about and were able to influence our mentality and promote democratic change among both our leaders and the mass of the people.
From: United States
Now the disaster of the 2010 earthquake has again opened the door to many of the Haitian underclass to again attempt to settle in OUR lands (spinach) illegally with the intention of planting roots and with the backing of these hypocritical white nations full of guilt for their treatment of Haiti in the past 200 yrs. Their contention that we should be united fails to take into consideration the tumultuous past we've had with these people or the fact that we are not culturally, ethnically, economically developed, or religiously compatible with them. To these hypocrites we are all just niggars (sic). If our government lacks the cojones to evacuate the illegals as is our sovereign right, the citizenship both inside the country and those of us outside must organize and force their hand. Through elections first, through paramilitary actions if necessary. If not we will have hordes of people like spinach who has already expressed his hate towards us in our backyards.
Written by: admin, 9 Aug 2012 2:11 AM
From: Dominican Republic, DN
SonOfHaiti, we're having an adult conversation here, please behave
From: United States
Spinach why the hell would we ever try to take you over. Now that is a thought to laugh about. People like you are going to turn Dominican's heart cold to the plight of your people to the point where even the children and grandchildren of the sugarcane cutters who have been in DR since the 60's and who I personally feel should be granted full citizenship for they know nothing of Haiti or even speak your "language" will be lumped up with the recent refugees and deported.
Repito o lo sacamos ahora o tendremos que joder con miles mas como la comida de perro apodado comida de popeye. Dejemos este articulo antes que jodin lo llene de su profanidad pues esa es su mentalidad. No se puede conversar constructivamente con gente asi. Nadie le conteste.
Written by: IloveDR, 9 Aug 2012 2:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Haitians don't belong here, they're so different from us culturally (like water and oil).
We need to heavily militarize our borders.
Good to see that some officials are beginning to wake up.
Written by: IloveDR, 9 Aug 2012 2:40 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
@Sonof Haiti
Keep dreaming lool, you're people didn't win back then even less now.
You're useless in every way.
Written by: Atabey, 9 Aug 2012 9:33 AM
From: United States, NYC
And just to remind people of another enormously important statistic: there are OVER 20 Million people living in the island of Hispaniola!
Yes. But the frightening stat is that this number is going up! So during this decade, 2010-2019, BOTH DR and HAITI will likely pass Cuba in total population!!!!
Think about that for a minute. Both Haiti (land: 27,560 sq km) and DR (land: 48,320 sq km) will have more people than the largest island (~1.45x as large as Hispaniola!!) of the Caribbean: Cuba. land:109,820 sq km
Land: 27,560 + 48,320= 75,880 sq km / 109, 820
Without a productivity miracle in Haiti and strong economic growth with more social investments in DR, the future looks bleak, especially for Haiti. Where will Haiti's surplus population find hope?
The international bodies and NGOs have an idea.....
Written by: generoso, 9 Aug 2012 10:19 AM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
Statistics and logical talk will not stop the hordes of hungry desperate Haitians, from crossing to the DR side, most by just walking across the porous border.
As Trujillo realized back in the 1930's when he was forced to sign by the USA, the agreement that gave away part of our territory to Haiti, including Hinche, to quench the Haitians thirst and desire for the DR fertile lands.
And he did respond in 1937 with the bitterness and despair that this event caused on his psyche, with the order of "el corte", to drive back the illegals to Haiti at the tip of a bayonet in the north, and later in the south. The guardias responded with a massacre that has hurt the DR to this date.
Up until the fall of the Trujillo regime, and later neo Trujillista Balaguer, who was a staunch nationalist, the Haitians did not dare to incur in illegal invasion of the DR, because the consequences where brutal.
Now they have no respect for our borders, and they come in the DR at will.
Written by: generoso, 9 Aug 2012 10:26 AM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
Part II
The only way to stop these desperate hordes of the Haitian lower classes, or "untouchables" as they are called in India, is to have a strong military presence throughout the border, build a fence or wall across the most vulnerable areas, and have 24/7 patrols.
Any member of the military caught trading with illegals, should be court martialed and shot.
After a few guardias are put to the firing squad, then the word will get around.
The weak, feeble, complacent, and subservient DR government, composed of corrupt technocrats and sabrosones, will never face head on the Haitian invasion, because of their lack of "testicular fortitude".
Only a strong leader, can revert the inevitable dark future that awaits the DR, if these desperate folks are not contained, and repatriated.
From: Canada
@generoso
you
use
the
word "HORDES" to describe us
but i will describe your MTHR as "WH ()r.......... "
From: Canada
@generoso
you dominican hypocrites
are flagging me when i f igh t back , but that will not stop me , even if they erase or ban me again , i will keep coming back , i have a tablet , a laptop an iphone and and Ipod Touch
Mwa hahahaahaha
From: Canada
@generoso
you are most likely an ille gal in The USA , just like most latin0s
so
shut
yer
c...........
of a m0uth
mwa hahaha
From: Canada
@genoroso
nothing
makes
me laugh
harder
than when an Hispan1c speaks of Illegals
yet
they will br3.....3d just to stay in America
example Mexicans
you
hy...............es
mwa hahaahahahaha
From: Canada
maybe the table will turn around , but dont forget your words ......
you
bunch
of
Dominicans
C.........
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From: Canada
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From: Canada
@genoroso
the
Haitians that your SuperHero Tru jillo had k1lled were the Vulnerab le ones as you can see they were next to the border , but not deep inside Haiti . thats were he should have tried .
if he did , you most likely wouldnt be here today ,
you should cl0ne that superhero and have him tried this again , if you can .
Mwa hahahahaha
From: Canada
@iloveDR
the dreamer is really you
we dont belong , yet its the same island just divided , had we been a nation of white people , you hypocrtes will brag that were one , how dominican of you?
From: Canada
From
now
on
i
will
write " dominican " with a small letter 'd" not in CAPITAL
i have l0st all respect for these Sc...........
From: Canada
@genoroso
A group of Dominican dissidents a s sas sinated Tru jillo in a car chase on the way to his country villa near San Cristóbal on May 30, 1961.
that was the faith of your loving SUPERHERO
too bad Haitians didnt get to return the favor to him
mwa
hahahaha
From: Canada
@genoroso
funny
that
you spoke of Hunger yet UNICEF is in your country feeding your people
you
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Written by: PapaD0c, 10 Aug 2012 10:18 PM
From: Haiti
Haiti4ever
Son,had it been up to me or our people,Trujillo would have died of old age.
We were afraid of Trujillo,after all the man had one of the most powerful armies
in Latin America.
Face it,only Dominicans had the balls to deal with a badass like Trujillo.
And,let's not forget our record when battling Dominicans,it's pretty bad.
We never stood a chance then,and now we're even less capable of standing up against them.
We're lucky to have the UN in our territory.
From: Canada
@Papadoc
The man you couldn't
F.....
With
Is
The man whose name you try to imitate
You m0r0n
D0minicans cannot fight us Haitians , you are in Lala land
You can always cl0ne your admirerer
You
DumINICAN
C.....
S......
Shut your m0uth already your br3th probably sm3ll like a "TROUKAKA "
Trujill0 = TROUKAKA
MWA hahahahahaha
C0w ards
Like I said "vunerable Haitians "
You
C....
Face
From: Canada
A little car chase
MWA HAHAHAHAHA
He took aim at a few Haitians for the c0ward that he is
But us we used to ch0p your h3ads up
MWA hahahahahaha
You
F.....
Dum?.......CAN
C..........
H.......
From: Canada
@Papadoc
Don't
Call
Me
S0n
I am probably the same guy who br3d your mthr .
It was my J...zz that made you
MWA hahahahahahahahaha
C......
F......ce
From: Canada
@Papdoc
Check
Your
Message box
MWA hahahahahaha
Written by: PapaD0c, 11 Aug 2012 9:43 AM
From: Haiti
Of course my breath smells like TROUKAKA,after all.....I'm haitian.
You got that right,no one but TRUJILLO was brave enough to fk with me,I mean,Trujillo is so badass that I try to avoid him,here in hell at all cost,otherwise the frigging guy would be b1tch slapping me or dipping my head into Satan's latrine!
And how the hell did you meet my mother,I was born in 1907,remember you dumbass???!!!
No wonder my country is nothing but a wasteland,with ignorant dumb asses like you running around wildly like chickens with their heads cut off!
When I was a dictator in haiti,at least my people had a place to stay,I succeeded by whipping their asses violently,I took a page from our french Masters,that's the only way to make our people somewhat productive.
From: Canada
@Papadoc
No , your m0uth st1ks because you are a d0minican
Pu....... Y and a55h.....l ......s is where your tongue live , because you can't f......K.. P.......ss....y
You can only eat
It
As far as the rest of your comment , I mean really even a 5 year old can do better , you sound like r3tard , actually you are one judging by your comments , you're the pr0duct 0f 1nce st since its c0mmon amongst you d0minicans
Cl0wn if I wanna get dir Ty , itSs in your box , I will go and tell you about your mother country and your sisters and wives .
Y
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From: Canada
I
Guess
You
Think
You can harm me by posting one of the. Silliest and dvmbest f....... C0mment
It's only your path ethic reaction after the message I sent you in your b0x
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Don't worry , there will be more c0ming , you pick the st00pidest user names like( Kisqueyamama ) thinking your e funny
You
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S...... C
Written by: PapaD0c, 11 Aug 2012 2:26 PM
From: Haiti
return!
Written by: PapaD0c, 11 Aug 2012 2:26 PM
From: Haiti
My beloved ranting and retarded son,my mouth smells like kaka from eating Dominican feces.
We haitians love everything Dominican,after all my haitian people would be dead from hunger and
asphyxiation,had not been for the food and free oxygen produce from the trees in the Dominican.
For example: we only have ONE small working seaport,real ships can't dock in such a crappy useless little port,so whatever little products or help we get from overseas,are to be received through Dominicans ports. Our trucks from haiti have to go into Dominican territory to haul our goods from Dominican seaports.
That is why when we decided to block Dominican trucks to come into haiti,it backfired because they blocked ours from going into theirs.....therefore we had to back out from such a "smart idea"...but then again,nobody's smarter than us,just look at haiti.
Those 5 year olds you mentioned,need to be pulled out of their restavek slavery and put into school.
Oh,my beloved haiti,if I only could
From: United States
To DT: why are you letting this idiot from Canada post all this garbage full of obvious profanity and you block me from setting up a personal meeting place in the northeast USA to see if he's a real man or just a P***y who hides behind his communication toys?
Spinach or haiti4never let me know when u will be in DR. I will fly down just to personally kick ur arse. Its very easy to throw out words behind a computer. A real man doesnt talk so much. U r probably a b**ch.
From: Canada
@Vengazaderafael
First of all the real ...........ssies are yous
You have been doing it And get away with it
I response always in defense of my country
Sure , you will call my posts garbage , you're my adver sary.
I am obviously behind a screen ,because I am on the Internet as far as hiding ,
I don't think so since the Holograms or the Holonet is not available yet for the public
As far as me coming to DR , you will never see that , i am not like some Haitians who just doesn't realize that to boy cott that part of the island and not to go there , a lot of us Haitian s oppose them from going there , that's including myself , so dream on
MWA hahaha
As far as you flying down just to kickmy a55 , just to do that , I don't believe , nor do i believe you can afford to do that , tell that to a 12yr 0ld
so you see who is really talking Sh.........
Mwahahhahhahhahahahahahhaha
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
You wrote that , I am throwing words ?
How does one throw words?
Words cannot be thrown , but only spoken and beside I am not talking , I am typing .
a real man does not talk too much ?
When have you ever heard me spoke ?
I can't speak on this site ,
How can I ?
Since this site is wayyyyyyyy too cheap to have the android like g00gle
Mwahahahahaaha
You
..........
M0r0n0
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
I
Will
Message
You in your b0x
Later
Alligator
MWA HAHAHAHAHA
From: Canada
@Papadoc
Real ships will be doing so , sooon in ( Port de Paix ) it's a huge port , under construction , it will be one of the biggest in the Carribean and it's under construction
So I guess you are not Haitian after all
You
.......
........m
From: United States
Well if u want we could meet in NYC p***y lips and we can throw hands. That clear enough for you BAAch.
From: Canada
@vengaderafaeel
Y
A
W
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Really ?
Sorry no time for you ! But I can " meAt " your mothr , if you want and show her how a real man work .
By the Did you notice the way I spelt the word ( meet) ?
MWA hahahahahahahahaha
From: Canada
@vengazaderafael
You re
Probably
Good
Only
At
Pulling
Hair
Since , I am a stout guy with no hair , I guess you d be scratching and biting right ?
MWA hahahahahaha
From: United States
I am a fugitive recovery agent for a bailbonds company son, I can put you down in two seconds. And I also go bald. We can bang heads anytime.
I do not consider Haitians my enemy nor do I have hate in my heart for them. But from your behavior I can see why some of my countrymen do. If you feel we are your enemy than bring it boy. You can come join the fight when it starts. And don't bring stones to a gunfight idiot. The bottom line is most of your people are taking up valuable space and resources in my country. If they do not willingly leave we will bury them so they can remain in Dominican soil forever. You will not turn my country into the barren latrine you turned yours into. We do not dislike you because of the color of your skin. Unlike many of you we do not judge people like that, contrary to you people who are reverse bigots. We dislike the way you behave, and u are a prime example. You are a loudmouthed profane individual devoid of any intelligent discourse.
From: United States
As I have said before these people wll not go willingly. They are depending on the bleeding hearts in the UN to defend them since they lack the fortitude to fight their own battles. We need to elect nationalist who will defend our rights to soveregnty with the international community and seek their participation on withdrawing the illegals only, ie immigration. To show we mean business we must shut down the border. No in or out until the whole lot of them have been rounded up put in camps until processed ( photographed and fingerprinted) then escorted to the border with the promise that if ever caught in Dominican territory without proper papers they will be interned in the new jails that need to be built immediatyely using Dominican labor. Radical thoughts but we are going to have a worse problem 10 yrs from now when the 2+ million illegals in the country start dropping babies and multiplying like rabbits. Can you imagine 5 million haitians in the country?
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
Read this
P..............ssy
Added On August 13, 2012
With the severe Eurozone crisis, many people are migrating from Portugal to the former Portuguese colony of Mozambique.
I know a f00l will always say that it won't happen to them , if this is happening in Europe , proof that your Sh......... Country is nothing , had it not been for a little Tourism which gave you a good little start you'd be starving .
Know where you coming from and respect that
You
.......
S.......c
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
Long lines formed at help centers and lawyers' office across America Wednesday as thousands of young, undocumented latino immigrants began applying for relief from deportation.
They took advantage of one of the biggest immigration policy changes in years. An executive order by President Barack Obama allows those who entered the country illegally as children to remain and work without fear of deportation for at least two years.
Tuesday, at a Latino community center in New York, Maria, a young Chilean, leaped from her seat.
"I've found the form!" she screamed.
She was with a number of other undocumented latino immigrants .
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
The shift on the politically volatile issue of immigration policy elicited praise from Latino leaders, while Republicans reacted with outrage, saying the move amounts to amnesty -- a negative buzzword among conservatives -- and usurps congressional authority.
You said that my people will not leave until you elect conservatives , well the only bleeding heart that I see is OBAMA begging for them not to kick you out with your 6 children in a house , however American don't want you in their country either , a law was made just for you in Arizona
The republicans are outraged over this , you try to pass on to Haitians what they do onto you
You
.........
HouseN.............
The mentality is still in you , that's why you can't answer the Whiteman back , unlike Haitians , had it not been for us , you d still be whipped , although you have tried your very best to discredit us from our history .
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
You said not to bring stones to a g UN fight , you re still bringing that up ?
Like really , I m gonna put my career aside and go to the states and wait for a lowlife dominivpcan to fight me ?
You may have nothing going on in life for you and can afford to lose it all , but not me , I love life too much. Keep selling your d......gs in the streets corners of New York , while your sister works in Manhatthan on Dastreets.
Blah blah blah , I am really scared
MWA Hahahahaaha
I am not dine with you , I just stop by to drop you a note
You
.......
Sp........
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
You wrote that you dont want to see Haitians turn yourE country into a toilet , funny your doing just that in PUerto Rico , they don't seem to appreciate you there either .
MWA
Hahahahahahahahaha
From: United States
@Venganzaderafael
Your thoughts on how to approach the illegal Haitian presence issue are indeed radical but that is precisely what the solution requires----namely a radical approach to a very serious problem that will only get worse if it is not addressed in a timely fashion. But the radical steps must be made on both sides. More accurately, all three sides...the Dominican, the Haitian, and the US-Britain led UN thugs who have a history of ramming their agenda down the throats of nations to the detriment of the interests of the very people that they purport to serve.
From: United States
continued...
History tells us that this "nationalist" leader can't flex his muscles until he has reduced his nation's dependency (i.e. tourism, tourism and tourism) on those very powers that are pressuring him to abdicate his nation's sovereignty. A bull-headed nationalist leader with strong-arm tactics will cause the world to line up against the DR and will likely be assassinated by "trusted" generals or proxies for the globalists. A clever "nationalist" will bestow amnesty on the batey school children in exchange for a stringent immigration policy and UN backed border security. He earns credit for having a heart of civility and compassion in dealing with a situation that he can't get out of anyway, while bargaining for support for a more hard-line policy on shoring up the ultra permeable border that we see today.
From: United States
Unlike haiti in the 70's (you know when exporting voodoo dolls and tourism to gays, which gave y'all the aids virus to the point where intraveneous drug addicts, gays and haitians were spoken in the same breath, was the only thing you had going) the Dominican Republic has always had abundance of natural resources to drive our economy.
Let me name a few: gold mines, nickel mines, fruits and vegetables galore, cattle, amber, manufacturing, rattan and mimbre since we kept our trees, rum( though I'll give credit where credit is due- nothing like a bottle of Babancourt), and of course Major League Baseball players. Tell your young boys to start playing baseball and we will keep those that show promise.
BWA HAHAHA
Written by: PapaD0c, 15 Aug 2012 6:34 PM
From: Haiti
@venganzaderafael:
You might have all of that in the DR....but in haiti,at least we got our world renowned MUD COOKIES!
BEAT THAT SUCKER!!
From: United States
@PapiCarlos
Agree 100% with your comments. I've said before I feel we should enfranchise the Haitian Dominicans born and raised in DR and descended from the cane cutters of the 1960's to the end of the last century. I was thinking this should be done outright. I like your idea better of getting the UN's backing thru some give and take. These thoughts need to be conveyed to Danilo if he is not thinking along these lines. If not we must organize and prepare for to bring this "leader" to power.
From: United States
You got me on that one PapaDoc. Though I have yet to try one, I actually would like to visit your side of the island , idiots like your retarded son not withstanding. He makes me forget my adopted Haitian uncle who died fighting the US invasion of 1965 or my friend and later roomate in college born in theUS of a Haitian father who was assasinated by your namesake. He also thought the island should be one again and I would tell him that unity could not be forced but earned. With people like your "retarded son" blathering his profanity laced hate that is an impossibilty.
From: Canada
@Venganzaderafael
Zzzzz
Zzzz
Zzz
Zz
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Your s0b story bore me
You must be referring to that domican imposter as they all are trying to impersonate ( PapaDoc) in whose shoes he wish he could walk .
From: Canada
@Papdoc
You're asking me to be that ?
I ve beaten it lots of times before
I guest you haven't been reading , oh I forget you are Dominican you prefer to look at pictures than reading from an article or a book
Shut
Yer
S........
M0uth
Wow
I am really hurt ,,in fact I replied to that same mud cookie thing in another comment that you posted minutes ago
Hallucinte?
The real hallucinatory is you calling yourself "little New York " more like little " Mexico "
MWA HAHAHAHAHA
I shall be back
You
.....
Sp.......
Written by: PapaD0c, 15 Aug 2012 7:23 PM
From: Haiti
I was a big deal back then in haiti....outside of haiti,I was a nobody.
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"Conservative FNP"
That is the right word CONSERVATIVE. When we were governed by Conservative nationalists we didn't have this problem that is about absolve our country. Say what you want about Trujllo at least the bastard drew a line when Haitians were taking over our country little by little peacefuly. So dominating were the Haitians that from the outskirt of Santiago to Dajabobn the Haitians currency was the one that was mostly used.
If it weren't by a few dinosour Conservatives still around by this time we would has been absolved. You know the one that had been labeled racists including by our own liberals traitor.
Liberalism do not care about Nationalism. What they hold tight to their heart is their beliefs of ideas.
I've stated so many times before, these pronouncements by the NGOs and UN representatives all point to a dumping of the Haitian Question unto the Dominican Republic. It's been brewing in the minds of many international "experts" and historians for a very long time. I recall having a conversation with one of my history professors and he was completely for the unification of the island. When I asked him if he'd ever been to both places, he said no, but he thought the idea of borders between nations a silly concept. I told him that when countries had similar levels of socio-economic development, say like Canada and the USA, or Germany and France, or Spain and Portugal, it was far easier to contemplate an open border notion for nations.
Taking this action can easily destabilize our country and move us towards "failed" status.
Atabey "professors and he was completely for the unification of the island. When I asked him if he'd ever been to both places, he said no, but he thought the idea of borders between nations a silly concept."
Exactly that professor's beliefs is what they hold dear to their heart. I had been saying here for the longest Liberals belieft in the INTERNATIONALE. They created the International Socialists (PRD is a member) with the purpose of creating one entity without border.
Atabey, you taught your professor a good lesson!"
Well, I don't think he and his group care too much how these small nations look at things. In the international arena, the big nations act and the smaller nations are expected to follow or face unpleasant returns. Don't know if Medina's Administration is being given "the talk" as in:
"You follow the script or those plans of yours will not find funding"
We lack a strong leadership group that's able to defend our interests while not necessarily causing too much distance from the "powers that be" A lot of this stems from a lack of imagination involving the Haitian Question. Arguably, there's truth in the notion that a broadly defined mix of countries could indeed take in a significant portion of Haiti's excess population; thus minimizing the total impact on any one nation in the world. The time to have advanced such a position was right after the tragic events of 2010. The world's attention was
I remember stating that the French should take up such a policy within the Franco-World Community of nations. Many of those states that have a loose affiliation could have been persuaded to take in some Haitians on an annual basis. With a similar program in the Americas, the close to 60 or more nations could make the Haitian Question a solvable puzzle in 10 years time.
But in order for such a gambit to have any chance of consideration IT HAS TO BE MADE PUBLIC!
Our leadership group, including the President LF and Co., and others in society appear to react to events INSTEAD of being PRO-ACTIVE. When you allow others to decide what is possible, you suffer the pain of your ideas being dumped without a chance.
If Germany and France where a collapsed state, there could be no "open borders" or the euro.
Overseas the news are reported with a bias towards the DR, and make us pose as discriminating against the "poor black Haitians", as if Dominicans where white Aryans.
Sorry to say but the unification crowd is winning the PR war, and each day that the border remain porous, more Haitians are being trucked in, just for that purpose.
Send the do not nothing and fat DR army, at least four divisions to police the border, instead of being marched around, like toy soldiers, in public parades.
As Atabey well put, the whole world needs to take part, and take some haitians in educate them and hopefuly they come back( but they never come back).
nobody wants to help Haiti, and we need to make the world know that unifying the island is not feasible and is NOT an OPTION!.
We must beat these people at their own game:
1-we MUST not hire Haitian labor
2-we MUST hold accountable our authorities for letting this get out of hand
3-we MUST elect into office Dominican men and women with a real nacionalist vision
4-we MUST educate our people about this issue
5-we MUST send all the illegals back, and then give a work permit to those that would be let back in
for a season job
6-if such worker abandon his/her job to persue something else not related to what this person was hired, this person should lose the right to come into our country forever
7-all Haitian NGO's should be consider illegal in our territory
8- we must spread the word about this issue to our friends and families
We must fight for our future as Dominican.
Conservatism too has its merits. Especially when it arrives as the savior of those of us who pulled ourselves up by our own boot traps, went to work and sacrificed for everything that we have. When it creates jobs and inspires ingenuity and new development conservatism is great. But like liberalism, conservatism also has a tendency to breach the parameters of reason and civility where more value is placed on capital interests than human lives.
We can start the process by being less emotional and more sincere and mature in our criticism of both sides. for example...
DONT_BE_SILENT says..
"1-we MUST not hire Haitian labor"
(Isn't it the conservative landowners and big business that hire the bulk of these Haitians?)
"2-we MUST hold accountable our authorities for letting this get out of hand"
(Big business controls "our authorities". It has gotten out of hand because the authorities don't answer to the people. Until the people figure out how to wrestle the mantle away from big business and place it in the hands of the people we're just talking hot air.)
Papicarlos
On this particular issue of our Haitian problem It is fair to say whether in Europe, Canada, UN or either at the USA behind the Clintons,black caucus, Spanish caucus, ect . The Liberals is at the forefront pushing us to create fusion with Haiti?
(Why not advance and spread the "conservative" ideals of hard work, work ethics, and honest days work for an honest day's pay so that fellow Dominicans will be encouraged to get up off their butts and leave the dominoes tables and bottles of Presidente for the end of the day, and do some real work for a change? Why even set aside these jobs for Haitians? Dominicans are just as strong and able-bodied..aren't they?)
"7-all Haitian NGO's should be consider illegal in our territory" (The Dominican police force is already stretched to its limit. If there are not any NGO's to meet some of the needs of these people they will find an illegal way of meeting their needs.)
While my fiscal ideals are conservative, I am a man of God who has compassion for God's Creation, especially human beings (ideals that are typically espoused by liberals). Perhaps I am a libertarian. :)
DONT_BE_SILENT is correct when he/she says
"we MUST educate our people about this issue" But the question is what kind of education? Are we going to continue to spread the lies and propaganda of both sides and continue to ignore the historical facts? As long as we continue to ignore the role that France, Britain and the United States played in the historical destabilization of Haiti from it's inception and up till this very day, and then point the finger of responsibility to correct the mess that these three nations have made, we will continue to be used as "pawns in the game" of chess being played by the nationalists (conservatives) and the liberals, both of whom are seemingly unable or unwilling to place the burden of once and for all solving the Haitian issue exactly where it should lie...on the doorsteps of France, the United States, and Britain..
The university that was opened on the Haitian side was a step in the right direction. I applaud LF for his efforts in that regard. But it should not be the responsibility of the Dominican government and its people to clean up the mess that super powers like France, the USA and Great Britain made. It is unfair and downright immoral to drop this burden on DR, and this is an American who is saying so.
There is no way that the DR should grant any amnesty
When has the Dominican government EVERY effectively enforced its immigration policy??? Lets be honest. Like WHERE did the Government think all those Haitian cane cutters would go??? That they would not have families and build communities?? That they would just disappear into thin air??
NOW they wanna be firm and solidified and determined and to be taken seriously?? Yea right. Its too late now. Now an entirely new approach has to be taken to even begin to correct things. The Haitian Government is still a pitiful shell of authority and unfortunately poverty can't wait for the sickening bureaucracy it takes to put practical help on the ground. There are Church groups doing more as we speak. If it wasn't for the greed and corruption the Dominican Government just MAY have been able to escape the storm thats now brewing. But now the appearance of culpability will be sufficien
These continuous unprevoked attacks subsequently led to voluntary(by an aging Santana) annexation to Spain and another 5 years of war for independence, furhter retardation of our developement and more families leaving their homeland. The constant Haitian threat bred a Caudillo mentality which had kept us as a backward Latin American banana dictatorship throughout the late 19th century and past the mid 20th century. It wasn't until the Haitian threat was totally nullified through superior military power and the brutal expulsion the last time they invaded(though peacefully when again North American intervention brought and allowed many of them to cross the border illegally) that enlightened and democratically minded men like Juan Bosch and Coronel Rafael Thomas Fernandez Dominguez came about and were able to influence our mentality and promote democratic change among both our leaders and the mass of the people.
Repito o lo sacamos ahora o tendremos que joder con miles mas como la comida de perro apodado comida de popeye. Dejemos este articulo antes que jodin lo llene de su profanidad pues esa es su mentalidad. No se puede conversar constructivamente con gente asi. Nadie le conteste.
We need to heavily militarize our borders.
Good to see that some officials are beginning to wake up.
Keep dreaming lool, you're people didn't win back then even less now.
You're useless in every way.
Yes. But the frightening stat is that this number is going up! So during this decade, 2010-2019, BOTH DR and HAITI will likely pass Cuba in total population!!!!
Think about that for a minute. Both Haiti (land: 27,560 sq km) and DR (land: 48,320 sq km) will have more people than the largest island (~1.45x as large as Hispaniola!!) of the Caribbean: Cuba. land:109,820 sq km
Land: 27,560 + 48,320= 75,880 sq km / 109, 820
Without a productivity miracle in Haiti and strong economic growth with more social investments in DR, the future looks bleak, especially for Haiti. Where will Haiti's surplus population find hope?
The international bodies and NGOs have an idea.....
As Trujillo realized back in the 1930's when he was forced to sign by the USA, the agreement that gave away part of our territory to Haiti, including Hinche, to quench the Haitians thirst and desire for the DR fertile lands.
And he did respond in 1937 with the bitterness and despair that this event caused on his psyche, with the order of "el corte", to drive back the illegals to Haiti at the tip of a bayonet in the north, and later in the south. The guardias responded with a massacre that has hurt the DR to this date.
Up until the fall of the Trujillo regime, and later neo Trujillista Balaguer, who was a staunch nationalist, the Haitians did not dare to incur in illegal invasion of the DR, because the consequences where brutal.
Now they have no respect for our borders, and they come in the DR at will.
The only way to stop these desperate hordes of the Haitian lower classes, or "untouchables" as they are called in India, is to have a strong military presence throughout the border, build a fence or wall across the most vulnerable areas, and have 24/7 patrols.
Any member of the military caught trading with illegals, should be court martialed and shot.
After a few guardias are put to the firing squad, then the word will get around.
The weak, feeble, complacent, and subservient DR government, composed of corrupt technocrats and sabrosones, will never face head on the Haitian invasion, because of their lack of "testicular fortitude".
Only a strong leader, can revert the inevitable dark future that awaits the DR, if these desperate folks are not contained, and repatriated.
@generoso
you
use
the
word "HORDES" to describe us
but i will describe your MTHR as "WH ()r.......... "
@generoso
you dominican hypocrites
are flagging me when i f igh t back , but that will not stop me , even if they erase or ban me again , i will keep coming back , i have a tablet , a laptop an iphone and and Ipod Touch
Mwa hahahaahaha
@generoso
you are most likely an ille gal in The USA , just like most latin0s
so
shut
yer
c...........
of a m0uth
mwa hahaha
nothing
makes
me laugh
harder
than when an Hispan1c speaks of Illegals
yet
they will br3.....3d just to stay in America
example Mexicans
you
hy...............es
mwa hahaahahahaha
maybe the table will turn around , but dont forget your words ......
you
bunch
of
Dominicans
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Bwa hahahaha
the
Haitians that your SuperHero Tru jillo had k1lled were the Vulnerab le ones as you can see they were next to the border , but not deep inside Haiti . thats were he should have tried .
if he did , you most likely wouldnt be here today ,
you should cl0ne that superhero and have him tried this again , if you can .
Mwa hahahahaha
@iloveDR
the dreamer is really you
we dont belong , yet its the same island just divided , had we been a nation of white people , you hypocrtes will brag that were one , how dominican of you?
now
on
i
will
write " dominican " with a small letter 'd" not in CAPITAL
i have l0st all respect for these Sc...........
A group of Dominican dissidents a s sas sinated Tru jillo in a car chase on the way to his country villa near San Cristóbal on May 30, 1961.
that was the faith of your loving SUPERHERO
too bad Haitians didnt get to return the favor to him
mwa
hahahaha
funny
that
you spoke of Hunger yet UNICEF is in your country feeding your people
you
..............
h .........t e
s..........
Son,had it been up to me or our people,Trujillo would have died of old age.
We were afraid of Trujillo,after all the man had one of the most powerful armies
in Latin America.
Face it,only Dominicans had the balls to deal with a badass like Trujillo.
And,let's not forget our record when battling Dominicans,it's pretty bad.
We never stood a chance then,and now we're even less capable of standing up against them.
We're lucky to have the UN in our territory.
The man you couldn't
F.....
With
Is
The man whose name you try to imitate
You m0r0n
D0minicans cannot fight us Haitians , you are in Lala land
You can always cl0ne your admirerer
You
DumINICAN
C.....
S......
Shut your m0uth already your br3th probably sm3ll like a "TROUKAKA "
Trujill0 = TROUKAKA
MWA hahahahahaha
C0w ards
Like I said "vunerable Haitians "
You
C....
Face
MWA HAHAHAHAHA
He took aim at a few Haitians for the c0ward that he is
But us we used to ch0p your h3ads up
MWA hahahahahaha
You
F.....
Dum?.......CAN
C..........
H.......
@Papadoc
Don't
Call
Me
S0n
I am probably the same guy who br3d your mthr .
It was my J...zz that made you
MWA hahahahahahahahaha
C......
F......ce
@Papdoc
Check
Your
Message box
MWA hahahahahaha
You got that right,no one but TRUJILLO was brave enough to fk with me,I mean,Trujillo is so badass that I try to avoid him,here in hell at all cost,otherwise the frigging guy would be b1tch slapping me or dipping my head into Satan's latrine!
And how the hell did you meet my mother,I was born in 1907,remember you dumbass???!!!
No wonder my country is nothing but a wasteland,with ignorant dumb asses like you running around wildly like chickens with their heads cut off!
When I was a dictator in haiti,at least my people had a place to stay,I succeeded by whipping their asses violently,I took a page from our french Masters,that's the only way to make our people somewhat productive.
No , your m0uth st1ks because you are a d0minican
Pu....... Y and a55h.....l ......s is where your tongue live , because you can't f......K.. P.......ss....y
You can only eat
It
As far as the rest of your comment , I mean really even a 5 year old can do better , you sound like r3tard , actually you are one judging by your comments , you're the pr0duct 0f 1nce st since its c0mmon amongst you d0minicans
Cl0wn if I wanna get dir Ty , itSs in your box , I will go and tell you about your mother country and your sisters and wives .
Y
A
W
N
Guess
You
Think
You can harm me by posting one of the. Silliest and dvmbest f....... C0mment
It's only your path ethic reaction after the message I sent you in your b0x
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Don't worry , there will be more c0ming , you pick the st00pidest user names like( Kisqueyamama ) thinking your e funny
You
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S...... C
We haitians love everything Dominican,after all my haitian people would be dead from hunger and
asphyxiation,had not been for the food and free oxygen produce from the trees in the Dominican.
For example: we only have ONE small working seaport,real ships can't dock in such a crappy useless little port,so whatever little products or help we get from overseas,are to be received through Dominicans ports. Our trucks from haiti have to go into Dominican territory to haul our goods from Dominican seaports.
That is why when we decided to block Dominican trucks to come into haiti,it backfired because they blocked ours from going into theirs.....therefore we had to back out from such a "smart idea"...but then again,nobody's smarter than us,just look at haiti.
Those 5 year olds you mentioned,need to be pulled out of their restavek slavery and put into school.
Oh,my beloved haiti,if I only could
Spinach or haiti4never let me know when u will be in DR. I will fly down just to personally kick ur arse. Its very easy to throw out words behind a computer. A real man doesnt talk so much. U r probably a b**ch.
First of all the real ...........ssies are yous
You have been doing it And get away with it
I response always in defense of my country
Sure , you will call my posts garbage , you're my adver sary.
I am obviously behind a screen ,because I am on the Internet as far as hiding ,
I don't think so since the Holograms or the Holonet is not available yet for the public
As far as me coming to DR , you will never see that , i am not like some Haitians who just doesn't realize that to boy cott that part of the island and not to go there , a lot of us Haitian s oppose them from going there , that's including myself , so dream on
MWA hahaha
As far as you flying down just to kickmy a55 , just to do that , I don't believe , nor do i believe you can afford to do that , tell that to a 12yr 0ld
so you see who is really talking Sh.........
Mwahahhahhahhahahahahahhaha
@Venganzaderafael
You wrote that , I am throwing words ?
How does one throw words?
Words cannot be thrown , but only spoken and beside I am not talking , I am typing .
a real man does not talk too much ?
When have you ever heard me spoke ?
I can't speak on this site ,
How can I ?
Since this site is wayyyyyyyy too cheap to have the android like g00gle
Mwahahahahaaha
You
..........
M0r0n0
I
Will
Message
You in your b0x
Later
Alligator
MWA HAHAHAHAHA
@Papadoc
Real ships will be doing so , sooon in ( Port de Paix ) it's a huge port , under construction , it will be one of the biggest in the Carribean and it's under construction
So I guess you are not Haitian after all
You
.......
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Y
A
W
N
Really ?
Sorry no time for you ! But I can " meAt " your mothr , if you want and show her how a real man work .
By the Did you notice the way I spelt the word ( meet) ?
MWA hahahahahahahahaha
@vengazaderafael
You re
Probably
Good
Only
At
Pulling
Hair
Since , I am a stout guy with no hair , I guess you d be scratching and biting right ?
MWA hahahahahaha
I do not consider Haitians my enemy nor do I have hate in my heart for them. But from your behavior I can see why some of my countrymen do. If you feel we are your enemy than bring it boy. You can come join the fight when it starts. And don't bring stones to a gunfight idiot. The bottom line is most of your people are taking up valuable space and resources in my country. If they do not willingly leave we will bury them so they can remain in Dominican soil forever. You will not turn my country into the barren latrine you turned yours into. We do not dislike you because of the color of your skin. Unlike many of you we do not judge people like that, contrary to you people who are reverse bigots. We dislike the way you behave, and u are a prime example. You are a loudmouthed profane individual devoid of any intelligent discourse.
@Venganzaderafael
Read this
P..............ssy
Added On August 13, 2012
With the severe Eurozone crisis, many people are migrating from Portugal to the former Portuguese colony of Mozambique.
I know a f00l will always say that it won't happen to them , if this is happening in Europe , proof that your Sh......... Country is nothing , had it not been for a little Tourism which gave you a good little start you'd be starving .
Know where you coming from and respect that
You
.......
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@Venganzaderafael
Long lines formed at help centers and lawyers' office across America Wednesday as thousands of young, undocumented latino immigrants began applying for relief from deportation.
They took advantage of one of the biggest immigration policy changes in years. An executive order by President Barack Obama allows those who entered the country illegally as children to remain and work without fear of deportation for at least two years.
Tuesday, at a Latino community center in New York, Maria, a young Chilean, leaped from her seat.
"I've found the form!" she screamed.
She was with a number of other undocumented latino immigrants .
@Venganzaderafael
The shift on the politically volatile issue of immigration policy elicited praise from Latino leaders, while Republicans reacted with outrage, saying the move amounts to amnesty -- a negative buzzword among conservatives -- and usurps congressional authority.
You said that my people will not leave until you elect conservatives , well the only bleeding heart that I see is OBAMA begging for them not to kick you out with your 6 children in a house , however American don't want you in their country either , a law was made just for you in Arizona
The republicans are outraged over this , you try to pass on to Haitians what they do onto you
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The mentality is still in you , that's why you can't answer the Whiteman back , unlike Haitians , had it not been for us , you d still be whipped , although you have tried your very best to discredit us from our history .
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You said not to bring stones to a g UN fight , you re still bringing that up ?
Like really , I m gonna put my career aside and go to the states and wait for a lowlife dominivpcan to fight me ?
You may have nothing going on in life for you and can afford to lose it all , but not me , I love life too much. Keep selling your d......gs in the streets corners of New York , while your sister works in Manhatthan on Dastreets.
Blah blah blah , I am really scared
MWA Hahahahaaha
I am not dine with you , I just stop by to drop you a note
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You wrote that you dont want to see Haitians turn yourE country into a toilet , funny your doing just that in PUerto Rico , they don't seem to appreciate you there either .
MWA
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Your thoughts on how to approach the illegal Haitian presence issue are indeed radical but that is precisely what the solution requires----namely a radical approach to a very serious problem that will only get worse if it is not addressed in a timely fashion. But the radical steps must be made on both sides. More accurately, all three sides...the Dominican, the Haitian, and the US-Britain led UN thugs who have a history of ramming their agenda down the throats of nations to the detriment of the interests of the very people that they purport to serve.
History tells us that this "nationalist" leader can't flex his muscles until he has reduced his nation's dependency (i.e. tourism, tourism and tourism) on those very powers that are pressuring him to abdicate his nation's sovereignty. A bull-headed nationalist leader with strong-arm tactics will cause the world to line up against the DR and will likely be assassinated by "trusted" generals or proxies for the globalists. A clever "nationalist" will bestow amnesty on the batey school children in exchange for a stringent immigration policy and UN backed border security. He earns credit for having a heart of civility and compassion in dealing with a situation that he can't get out of anyway, while bargaining for support for a more hard-line policy on shoring up the ultra permeable border that we see today.
Let me name a few: gold mines, nickel mines, fruits and vegetables galore, cattle, amber, manufacturing, rattan and mimbre since we kept our trees, rum( though I'll give credit where credit is due- nothing like a bottle of Babancourt), and of course Major League Baseball players. Tell your young boys to start playing baseball and we will keep those that show promise.
BWA HAHAHA
You might have all of that in the DR....but in haiti,at least we got our world renowned MUD COOKIES!
BEAT THAT SUCKER!!
Agree 100% with your comments. I've said before I feel we should enfranchise the Haitian Dominicans born and raised in DR and descended from the cane cutters of the 1960's to the end of the last century. I was thinking this should be done outright. I like your idea better of getting the UN's backing thru some give and take. These thoughts need to be conveyed to Danilo if he is not thinking along these lines. If not we must organize and prepare for to bring this "leader" to power.
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Your s0b story bore me
You must be referring to that domican imposter as they all are trying to impersonate ( PapaDoc) in whose shoes he wish he could walk .
You're asking me to be that ?
I ve beaten it lots of times before
I guest you haven't been reading , oh I forget you are Dominican you prefer to look at pictures than reading from an article or a book
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Wow
I am really hurt ,,in fact I replied to that same mud cookie thing in another comment that you posted minutes ago
Hallucinte?
The real hallucinatory is you calling yourself "little New York " more like little " Mexico "
MWA HAHAHAHAHA
I shall be back
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