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Santo Domingo.- Consumer Protection Agency (Proconsumidor) director Altagracia Paulino revealed Thursday that propane gas plants swindle customers out of as much as 50 percent of the money paid for each gallon, affecting 2.2 million homes.

"The least we’ve discovered is that are people are duped one gallon for each five users pay in gas by volume. In another we found up to 50%," the official said.

She said the sale of gas by volume instead of by weight jeopardizes 2.2 million households. "We made the determination that gas must be weighed because there’s no distortion there."

Paulino, Interviewed on Telemicro 5, said to halt the fraud against Dominicans her agency ordered each station to have a scale so customers can weigh their tank before and after filling.

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Written by: Pedrin, 7 Sep 2012 12:57 PM
From: United States
Robbing from the people that can least afford it. What a bunch of scalawags.
Written by: josean, 7 Sep 2012 1:05 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

12 years of the PLD protecting the Dominican people!

Written by: elBuscoon, 7 Sep 2012 1:12 PM
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion

Here we go again..

How many times are we going to go down with this same old bullshit and nothing ever gets done.

Year after year we hear the samething yet you still sell or should I say steal by volume...

You people need to do something soon...



Written by: zooma, 7 Sep 2012 2:05 PM
From: United States

Yes the plants are most probably scamming the customers. You will see many of them with a scale at the pumps. What good is the scale if there are no in plain sight postings of the weight table of lbs per gallon of gas for the consumer can judge what he has received.

Written by: dreadlocks, 7 Sep 2012 2:53 PM
From: United States
what they need is the system used in the USA. Leonel says that we are Little New York. well , act like it. do what they do..send out guys from Weights and Measures, to make unannounced checks. bring a specific container, order a quantity, and measure it after the guy pumps it. if it is short, shut the station down for a week, and fine their ass. that should fix them.
Written by: bernies, 7 Sep 2012 3:26 PM
From: United States, key west fl
The problem with these propane gas stations is that they buy the propane by the gallons from the indistry of commerce so they claimed that you cannot buy something that is measure by gallons and then sell it by the pound. I have to agreed on this fact and if the government agency wants them to sell it buy the pound then that agency will have to force the industry of commerce sale it to the propane gas stations around the country. And please I do not own or have any family owns a gas pump but you have to play by the rules.
Written by: elBuscoon, 7 Sep 2012 3:47 PM
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion

@ dreadlocks

I agree with you 100%, but the problem would be that then you would have the guys from Weights and Measures on the take.

This country is all about who and how to screw someone out of something.

Hell, just yesterday I was at a friends colmado and he showed me a fake RD $25 pesos...

Oh yea

Written by: dreadlocks, 8 Sep 2012 6:52 AM
From: United States
Written by: elBuscoon, 7 Sep 2012 3:47 PM
From: Cuba, La Havana, Que Viva La Revolucion

@ dreadlocks

I agree with you 100%, but the problem would be that then you would have the guys from Weights and Measures on the take.

and i agree with you, 100%.
Written by: pelaut, 8 Sep 2012 8:27 AM
From: United States
Asking for "Weights and Measures" government botellas to "do something" is why you have the bloated government you've got. They won't do anything but buy yipetas and hire busty secretaries.
Dominicans simply need to learn Latin: caveat emptor.
Written by: pelaut, 8 Sep 2012 8:45 AM
From: United States
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Written by: dominidave, 8 Sep 2012 9:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic
A gallon of liquid propane gas weighs exactly 4.23 pounds so whats the difference if the gas companies buy by the gallon and sell by the pound........4.23 lbs=1 gal AND 1 gal. = 4.23 lbs
Written by: guillermone, 8 Sep 2012 11:27 AM
From: United States
........4.23 lbs=1 gal AND 1 gal. = 4.23 lbs

Sounds logical and makes sense to me.
Written by: dreamkiller, 8 Sep 2012 11:38 AM
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Buscoon and dread into massaging each other ....get a room
Written by: dreadlocks, 8 Sep 2012 11:41 AM
From: United States
Written by: dominidave, 8 Sep 2012 9:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic
A gallon of liquid propane gas weighs exactly 4.23 pounds so whats the difference if the gas companies buy by the gallon and sell by the pound........4.23 lbs=1 gal AND 1 gal. = 4.23 lbs

absolutely, dominidave. it is elementary mathematics. the conversion can be done by any living creature.
Written by: dreamkiller, 8 Sep 2012 11:53 AM
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Even pond scum?
Written by: dominidave, 8 Sep 2012 11:55 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Hey Dread, long time!! Yeah easily done by any living creature except the cretins at the gas companies claiming it's impossible.
Written by: dreadlocks, 8 Sep 2012 11:59 AM
From: United States
nice to hear from you, Dave. yes, it is because of those types why we really need the 4% for education.
Written by: dominidave, 8 Sep 2012 12:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Dread, the 4% will be a great start if it's used correctly..1) find and pay decent wages to qualified teachers, 2) extend the school day to 7 or 8 hours of actual acedemics, yes even when it rains!! 3) put some desks, computers and a school library in each school so that our kids have a decent chance competing for good paying jobs. On another note, what's up with all those holidays??? My son can't go to school if it's raining because the roof leaks and the school floods, or if his teacher needs her hair done or a manicure you piggyback these days on top of all the religous holidays and the kids are home more than they are in school. Children are the best investment for the future!!!
Written by: dreadlocks, 8 Sep 2012 12:48 PM
From: United States
dominidave, there are some RADICAL needs that have to be addressed if we are going to have worthwhile education in the DR. the list of things that have to be corrected is positively daunting.
Written by: stillhere, 8 Sep 2012 1:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic
This is not about lbs v gals, it's about selling at weight not volume. Volume is very dificult to measure by the consumer, where weight is a very simple thing to measure with a before and after weight, to see how much you were ripped of by.... If the sellers have a problem that they have to buy at volume then it's something they need to fix with who they buy from...

If just one place started selling at weight and openly, clearly showed before and after weights to customers, they would become be very popular and make a lot of money by just being honest....
Written by: DomRat, 8 Sep 2012 5:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Get a fibeglass propane tank. No rust, light weight, and visable LPG level. I have not seen this with propane and I do see volume in these type tanks. I presume this home deliveries rather than propane stations for vehicles. Maybe even pickup truck drivers - service rather than the propane companies. I know gas/diesel pumps do the 6 for 5 ratio pretty regularly.
Written by: chillinout, 8 Sep 2012 5:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Had my barbeque tank filled today at Solgas in Las Terrenas today. factura shows 5.3 gals and 25 lbs..
From the net-
A standard BBQ cylinder has 20lbs of propane in it There is 4.2 Lbs of liquid propane in a gallon so 20 Lbs is 4.77 gallons....and Yes! A cylinder can be overfilled! It shouldn't be! but it can happen. Most 20 lb cylinders today have an automatic stop fill device that shuts off the liquid flow into the tank at around 80%. But they can and do fail. That is why cylinders are still filled on scales and weighed to ensure that you are not receiving an overfilled tank. 20 years experience in the propane business. I train people in the filling procedures for cylinders( among other things)...

So either their scale/pump is wrong, the operator didn't know how much weight or gals should put in the tank, the safety valves didn't work, or it is a scam. My tank tare wt is 18lbs after fill 38.4lb on my scale.

Factura does not compute! 20 lbs equals 4.76 gals based on above.
Written by: dreamkiller, 8 Sep 2012 6:51 PM
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Thanks for the math lesson but the question. Is.....Did you pistol whip and rightfully so the station attendant ?
Written by: DomRat, 8 Sep 2012 7:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The attendents are just wage slaves, any fiddle with the pump is done by manager or owners in conjunction with DIGINOR or other authorities that certify the pumps and meters. Do you really think the owners are going to do an illegal profit split?
Written by: danny00, 8 Sep 2012 9:56 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
the greeks invented math, these guys did their homework.
scam city the dr is. anyway they can scam they do it.

but the good news is we have the mighty choo choo train
all aboard.
Written by: Danilo, 9 Sep 2012 2:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
choo choo,
I can barely understand what you're saying, I thought you lived in the US.
Written by: dreamkiller, 10 Sep 2012 5:32 AM
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
Please note Not There.....perish the thought that i would ever abdvocate violence against a thief particularly When this behavior has become a way of life in the DR.
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