N. Lopez Rodriguez. File.
Santo Domingo.- Dominican Republic’s cardinal on Friday said neither the Catholic church “nor anybody else” has to get involved on immigration issues, because it’s up to the government to decide on the matter.
Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez made the statement when asked about the attitude of the Jesuit priest Rogelio Martinez, whose failed effort to get hundreds of undocumented Haitians across the border roiled Dominican Republic.
Nonetheless Lopez noted that the priest’s conduct doesn’t merit a reprimand.
“No one has to get into thtat; neither ambassadors nor priests, it’s up the State to dictate migratory policy,” the senior prelate said, warning that the situation with the Haitians seeking to enter the country irregularly could’ve led to fatal consequences.
Speaking at the Marcelino Velez Hospital, the Cardinal stressed however, that Haitian and Dominican authorities should find a solution, to issue documents which regularize their status in Dominican territory.
Written by: Danilo, 11 Jan 2013 1:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
For once I agree with him... priests should stay out of this as well as other political issues!
Written by: josean, 11 Jan 2013 1:57 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Now Cardinal Nickey is for the Separation of Church and State!
Maybe he will refuse his government check this month and tear up the Concordat for good measure!
Written by: Pedrin, 11 Jan 2013 2:07 PM
From: United States
Josean- I agree with you 100%. There will never be progress in the DR until the church's and the military's involvement in the everyday affairs of government is significantly dialed back.
From: Dominican Republic, Santiago de los 30 Caballeros
I know a boatload of BS when I see it. The Cardinal is at it again, spouting his rubbish and defending Law when actually it has sod roots , all to do with him at the highest level . The Cardinal lives in the Papal Palace where everything is big and made of gold. He is such a HYPOCRITE!
Written by: juanb, 11 Jan 2013 2:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The hypocrisy.
He is saying not to meddle in government affairs, while meddling in government affairs.
Written by: Atabey, 11 Jan 2013 2:44 PM
From: United States, NYC
As Blut would say, "I'm shocked, shocked"
But the Cardinal does have a point, he just needs to apply it more broadly. LOL
Written by: Pedrin, 11 Jan 2013 3:23 PM
From: United States
Not much difference between these clowns and the crews in Washington Heights.
From: United States
No sé qué clase de leyes de inmigración hay en la republica dominicana.
Ese padre de apellido Regino debiera ir preso, por conspiración; por tratar de introducir al país personas indocumentadas.
En otros países donde se respetan las leyes este señor iría por los menos 5 años a la cárcel.
Cargos: conspiración
Tráfico humano
Violar la soberanía dominicana
Violar los códigos: etc., etc.
From: United States
says juanb
Written by: juanb, 11 Jan 2013 2:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The hypocrisy.
He is saying not to meddle in government affairs, while meddling in government affairs.
i knew i could count on you to see the irony!!
From: United States, Brooklyn
JOSEAN: It seems the priest managed to get you into the border! jajajaja
Written by: generoso, 11 Jan 2013 6:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
Cardinal Nicky should keep his big trap shut, and not throw any stones from his glass house.
Hey Nicky, you still carrying that pistola and getting a major general's salary from the state?
Balsa de sinverguenzas, descarados.
Written by: BASTA, 11 Jan 2013 6:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all
Pedrin, ===4****s
Written by: BASTA, 11 Jan 2013 6:19 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all
Pedrin, ===4****s
Written by: RoyStone, 11 Jan 2013 7:56 PM
From: Australia
josean,
asks
1) "Now Cardinal Nickey is for the Separation of Church and State!"
2) "Maybe he will refuse his government check this month and tear up the Concordat for good measure!"
As Josean knows, the answer to both is a resounding "no".
What Nicky-the-hat is actually doing is denying responsibility for the situation these people are in, largely due to his church keeping them in poverty, ignorance and fear.
Written by: josean, 11 Jan 2013 8:16 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
No disagreement for me Roy!
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Latin American history is fraught with many chapters of church corruption and complicity with oppressive and corrupt governments, so the cardinal's position and chamaelion-like posture should not come as a surprise to any.
I suppose the church considers abject irrelevance to be worse than death; consequently, it would do anything to be noticed, remain relevant.
MJEV.
From: Dominican Republic
They have a plentiful supply of choir boys on their own turf, that's why they don't need to import them.
Written by: Pepe32, 12 Jan 2013 12:04 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Damned if you do and damned if you don't ,the atheist and pro-Haitian legions in DT will only be happy when DR becomes another Haitian wasteland!
Written by: Belly, 12 Jan 2013 2:34 AM
From: United States, Seattle, W.A.
Oh Nicky how about breaking the ties between the Catholic Church and the education department?
That would be a real change! Charlatan and hypocrite
Written by: generoso, 12 Jan 2013 11:10 AM
From: Dominican Republic, United States
Belly
He would not "break any ties" as you know, he gets millions in aid from the state, to support the universities OWNED by himself and his family.
All this from a "holy one" that has his own private aircraft to travel to SANTIAGO, as it the 2 hour trip by car, would hurt his rear end, and reportedly has even his shoes custom made in Italy.
The latest scandal is so bad, so bad, that I am hesitant to even mention it, and won't for the time being.
From: Dominican Republic
You know what the church and Wall-Mart have in common?
When you walk in, you can always find boys underwear half off.
From: Dominican Republic
When all of you fools wake up you will realize that religion is just another way to keep the poor in their place. Hell the Spanairds polluted this entire island with catholicism killing off the indigenous people. There is no god. It is all a grand illusion and anyone who believes in the hocus pocus is wasting what little time they have on this planet. Go live your life and f all the churches and organized religion.
From: Dominican Republic
Religion will always retain a certain tattered prestige because it was our first attempt as a species to make sense of the cosmos and of our own nature, and because it continues to ask "why". Its incurable disability, however, lies in its insistence that the answer to that question can be determined with certainty on the basis of revelation and faith.
Christopher Hitchens
From: Dominican Republic
RoyStone...I cannot say it any better.
Written by: rokete, 12 Jan 2013 2:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Being overly concern about Public Relations is not going to solve our problem of HAITIAN INVATION.
Doing something about it will.
PUT THAT PRIEST IN JAIL, AND DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL HAITIANS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
This is the beginning of a disaster waiting to happen. The enemy is already inside our home.
What we need is a president with a big crotch (con Bragueta), like TRUJILLO or BALAGUER.
They surely put things in their proper perspective concerning Haitian Invation.
They where not afraid of international pressures, because they believed in the rights of DR as a sovereign nation to implement its migration laws.
DOMINICANOS TONTOS!!
SI NO PONEN UN PARO A LA INVACION HAITIANA PRONTO SE QUEDARAN SIN CASA.
Corre piti, que por ahi viene LA CAMIONA.
Written by: rokete, 12 Jan 2013 2:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Now, now, just what we need it.
Now this pedophile, says not to bud in migration affairs, when he buds into all government affairs.
Maybe if you set a good example, the other pedophiles might not feel free to violate the laws.
This pedophile is one of the reasons our country does not come out of the woods.
LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ SHOULD BE WORKING AT WAL-MART UNDERWEAR DEPARTMENT. LOL
Written by: RoyStone, 13 Jan 2013 5:36 AM
From: Australia
Pepe32,
declares
"...the atheist and pro-Haitian legions in DT will only be happy when DR becomes another Haitian wasteland!"
Keh?
Haiti is predominantly theist and is a violent, corrupt wasteland, despite having substantial natural resources. Norway on the other hand is predominately atheist, has few natural resources yet is very rich, peaceful and civil. .... tells you something? (I doubt)
Written by: JEM237, 14 Jan 2013 3:31 PM
From: United States, In your mind
Roy,
Norway actually has one of world's largest oil reserves...Haiti on the other hand has depleted all of their natural resources and wants to do the same on our side. The destruction of their natural resources has nothing to do with them being theist vs atheist. Native Americans have their religious beliefs and they don't destroy land.
From: Dominican Republic
@JEM237 you are an idiot and so are all of your Dominican brothers who keep this hatred of the Haitians alive. Your ignorant ass would not have freedom right now without the Haitians. You would all still be answering to the slave master. your own country's inability to politically align itself with anything that will change this island is amazing. Ignorance is the only answer to this riddle.
Written by: RoyStone, 14 Jan 2013 8:41 PM
From: Australia
I've put on my orthopedic shoes, JEM237, and now I stand corrected - Norway has oil.
Maybe I picked a bad example.
How about Singapore - main religion is Buddhism, which is not a theistic religion, hence is atheist?
I don't know much about Amerindian religion, but I believe it is not mono-theistic - more like reverence to ancestors and natural forces? Certainly nothing like the two main scourges to humanity, Islam and Christianity.
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Now Cardinal Nickey is for the Separation of Church and State!
Maybe he will refuse his government check this month and tear up the Concordat for good measure!
I know a boatload of BS when I see it. The Cardinal is at it again, spouting his rubbish and defending Law when actually it has sod roots , all to do with him at the highest level . The Cardinal lives in the Papal Palace where everything is big and made of gold. He is such a HYPOCRITE!
The hypocrisy.
He is saying not to meddle in government affairs, while meddling in government affairs.
As Blut would say, "I'm shocked, shocked"
But the Cardinal does have a point, he just needs to apply it more broadly. LOL
Ese padre de apellido Regino debiera ir preso, por conspiración; por tratar de introducir al país personas indocumentadas.
En otros países donde se respetan las leyes este señor iría por los menos 5 años a la cárcel.
Cargos: conspiración
Tráfico humano
Violar la soberanía dominicana
Violar los códigos: etc., etc.
Written by: juanb, 11 Jan 2013 2:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The hypocrisy.
He is saying not to meddle in government affairs, while meddling in government affairs.
i knew i could count on you to see the irony!!
JOSEAN: It seems the priest managed to get you into the border! jajajaja
Hey Nicky, you still carrying that pistola and getting a major general's salary from the state?
Balsa de sinverguenzas, descarados.
asks
1) "Now Cardinal Nickey is for the Separation of Church and State!"
2) "Maybe he will refuse his government check this month and tear up the Concordat for good measure!"
As Josean knows, the answer to both is a resounding "no".
What Nicky-the-hat is actually doing is denying responsibility for the situation these people are in, largely due to his church keeping them in poverty, ignorance and fear.
No disagreement for me Roy!
Latin American history is fraught with many chapters of church corruption and complicity with oppressive and corrupt governments, so the cardinal's position and chamaelion-like posture should not come as a surprise to any.
I suppose the church considers abject irrelevance to be worse than death; consequently, it would do anything to be noticed, remain relevant.
MJEV.
That would be a real change! Charlatan and hypocrite
He would not "break any ties" as you know, he gets millions in aid from the state, to support the universities OWNED by himself and his family.
All this from a "holy one" that has his own private aircraft to travel to SANTIAGO, as it the 2 hour trip by car, would hurt his rear end, and reportedly has even his shoes custom made in Italy.
The latest scandal is so bad, so bad, that I am hesitant to even mention it, and won't for the time being.
When you walk in, you can always find boys underwear half off.
Christopher Hitchens
Doing something about it will.
PUT THAT PRIEST IN JAIL, AND DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL HAITIANS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
This is the beginning of a disaster waiting to happen. The enemy is already inside our home.
What we need is a president with a big crotch (con Bragueta), like TRUJILLO or BALAGUER.
They surely put things in their proper perspective concerning Haitian Invation.
They where not afraid of international pressures, because they believed in the rights of DR as a sovereign nation to implement its migration laws.
DOMINICANOS TONTOS!!
SI NO PONEN UN PARO A LA INVACION HAITIANA PRONTO SE QUEDARAN SIN CASA.
Corre piti, que por ahi viene LA CAMIONA.
Now this pedophile, says not to bud in migration affairs, when he buds into all government affairs.
Maybe if you set a good example, the other pedophiles might not feel free to violate the laws.
This pedophile is one of the reasons our country does not come out of the woods.
LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ SHOULD BE WORKING AT WAL-MART UNDERWEAR DEPARTMENT. LOL
declares
"...the atheist and pro-Haitian legions in DT will only be happy when DR becomes another Haitian wasteland!"
Keh?
Haiti is predominantly theist and is a violent, corrupt wasteland, despite having substantial natural resources. Norway on the other hand is predominately atheist, has few natural resources yet is very rich, peaceful and civil. .... tells you something? (I doubt)
Norway actually has one of world's largest oil reserves...Haiti on the other hand has depleted all of their natural resources and wants to do the same on our side. The destruction of their natural resources has nothing to do with them being theist vs atheist. Native Americans have their religious beliefs and they don't destroy land.
Maybe I picked a bad example.
How about Singapore - main religion is Buddhism, which is not a theistic religion, hence is atheist?
I don't know much about Amerindian religion, but I believe it is not mono-theistic - more like reverence to ancestors and natural forces? Certainly nothing like the two main scourges to humanity, Islam and Christianity.