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"I'm from the tax department. I'm here to help you."

IDIOT IRS Atabey is wetting his fruit of the looms!

Except for his friends and family.

Losers.

Not as much as your sweating ass carrying that "Big MaMa" of yours from Yesterday!



As often stated and CONCLUSIVELY VERIFIED BY INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC STUDIES:

The DR is a LOW TAX COLLECTION and LOW TAX EFFORT nation-state.

For its economic level, Middle Income nation status, The Dominican Republic captures LESS TAXES, as a % of GDP, than it's level of income suggest.

All this is backed up by NUMEROUS INTERNATIONAL STUDIES. CEPAL, The IMF, The World Bank.


If DR wants a serious and mature approach to modernity and development, it will have to address its POST Trujillo Low Taxation collection and Low Tax Effort regime.

Of course, fighting corruption and establishing better over all management of resources must also be part of the growing maturity. How? By Eliminating the many "botellas" and cutting back on creating hack political jobs: why do we need Senators and Representatives in such a small country?

The country needs a viable amd appropriate tax system to sustain growth, afford the necessities of an evolving society. However, I wish there would be a constitutional amendment capping taxes in perpetuity to, let's say, 10 percent of income-all taxes included. If tithing is good for God, the it must be good for devil (DR's gov't!!!!), as a lesser being, it must never exceed the amount the supreme being is entitled to. Many western societies have severely aboused their confiscatory taxing authority, to the point that an exodus of high income individuals is already underway; for instance, take France, where several high profile individuals have already left and renounced their Frech citizenship.

BTW, everyone, except those living below the poverty line, must pay this tax.

I would also expect a realignment of accountability and increased transparency.

MJEV.

"10 percent of income-all taxes included. If tithing is good for God, "

Not a whole lot of government services will this rate provide. You think that the modern Welfare State in Europe can sustain itself on 10%? The levels are over 30-40% and they are having troubles meeting their budgetary requirements. And to forge a modernization and development strategy in DR, with its LONG Neglect of services in potable water, sanitation, health, basic infrastructure and did I mention EDUCATION!, 10% will surely amount to TOO little to promote these needs.

Like it or not, the DR will have to get on track and start behaving like a mature member of the international community. Paying taxes isn't fun, but living with vast poverty populations and a poor opportunity environment are even worse.

50 or so years after the death of Trujillo, the State's take is growing. Few Dominicans realize how much taxation capture Trujillo did during his reign in power. In some years it was 20% of GDP.

i propose that someone open a fund for the psychiatric evaluation of Atabey. i already know the findings, but some might be confused. this guy opened a thread, some time back, and got his ass kicked from pillar to post, by every poster in the forum. it was a massacre. he left the thread bleeding from every orifice, which is usually the case when he tries to debate the serious minds in this site. he gets his ass kicked real hard, and goes into a stste of meltdown. but you have to hand it to him. he isn't bright, nor educated, nor intelligent, but he is as obstinate as a mule. and twice as stupid. he lost the first round, but he starts the fight again, using the same tactics, against the same opponents. so, he tells us that the DR tax rate is too low... not according to recent pronouncements from world financial reporters

It is 116th in ease of doing business, 156th in handling cases of insolvency or bankruptcy, and 122nd in the process of obtaining electricity service. In addition the total tax rate as a percentage of earnings reaches 42.5%, the highest among competitors in the region.

i asked him to comment on the last sentence in the above passage. he has declined reply, since the only news he bothers with is the stuff which serves his cause. ATABEY; PLEASE EXPLAIN THE LAST SENTENCE IN THE ABOVE PASSAGE.

Dready, after you convince us at DT that what the CEPAL, IMF, THE WORLD BANK funded studies STATE FOR THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS INCORRECT!

In other words. If you don't play ball and accept that just because you worked hard and was productive that doesn't mean you have real rights then we will just take what we want.

says poor Atabey

Written by: Atabey, 31 Jan 2013 12:45 PM
From: United States, NYC

Dready, after you convince us at DT that what the CEPAL, IMF, THE WORLD BANK STATE FOR THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS INCORRECT!

actually, that statement comes from the financial institutions.

Atabey, since the report was made by the World Bank, what is your next gambit? this would be a good time to quit. you are falling farther behind. you know that you unravel easily. stop embarrassing yourself.

Poor Dready,

He can't, doesn't even try to take on the ECONOMIC STUDIES, that COMPREHENSIVELY DEMONSTRATE THAT BASED ON % of GDP TAXATION BURDEN, DR IS A : Low Tax Collection and Low Tax Effort nation state.


No Gravitas dready; but we all know that.

How about explaining to DT how you can SAVE the developing world nations BILLIONS by providing Educational Opportunity for all with 1% and even lower .6% of GDP?


Everyone is waiting for that Dready Educational Plan!!! LOL

"Not as much as your sweating ass carrying that "Big MaMa" of yours from Yesterday!"

He comes out of the closet with his HOMO-EROTIC Fantasy!

says the imbecile Atabey

How about explaining to DT how you can SAVE the developing world nations BILLIONS by providing Educational Opportunity for all with 1% and even lower .6% of GDP?

i never said anything about saving anybody anything. you, the immortal cretin, tried to make a causal link between public expenditure and educational outcomes, when you start losing ground, you move the goalposts. get something straight, Atabey. this is a public forum. other people read it. it is not a private conversation between us. so, intelligent people get to see the extent of your stupidity, and ignorance. you embarrass yourself. every time you post, people wonder if you are man, or beast. they question your IQ. they are puzzled to believe that you actually find your way out of bed in the mornings.

More evidence of the “efficient use” of the IDIOT IRS Atabey Sponsored PLD TAX MUGGING!


Pay raise for Chamber of Deputies employees

The Chamber of Deputies has increased employees' salaries by between 10 and 40% effective from this month.

Department directors will now receive RD$130,000 gross salary per month and managers RD$90,000.

Chamber president Abel Martinez said that they had adjusted the salaries of employees who had joined the institution as secretaries and assistants, but were still on the same salary although they had become more qualified and progressed.

He said that some employees with more than 15 years service used to earn less than RD$15,000 and he felt that they deserved to be rewarded for their hard work and service to the country. He clarified that the increases were for staff only and not contractors and that they were able to increase their salaries by making cuts and optimizing their resource management.

DR1

You made the contention that here was DR with 2.9% of GDP spending and there was Equatorial Guinea with .6% of GDP doing a better job of providing education for her people. The implied message: DR could do just as well and save lots of money in the process.


So Dready, How can DR spend only .6% of GDP and provide better educational outcome to her people?


DT is ALL EARS.



:)


BTW, since your native Jamaica is having a difficult time paying her interest payments on her debt, why don't you take a trip down there and suggest this Birdbrain policy Strategy to your country-folk?


They're all EARS, TOO!



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I have been in the offices of Internal Revenues 3 times recently asking them to give an assessment on what I now owe annually to comply with the new tx laws relating to land and unearned income brought here from overseas. I could not have been treated better and after providingthe department with all the information that they required , they gave me my assessment which I considereed to be very fair and next week I will pay it /
I found it was easier dealing with the tax people than a few other countries where I have lived formerly..now I wish I could say the same about the Department of Immigration

No wonder tat treated you as a God, Ricky,
They have never come across a Dominican willing to pay tax, so they assumed you were not a mortal human.

says Atabey


You made the contention that here was DR with 2.9% of GDP spending and there was Equatorial Guinea with .6% of GDP doing a better job of proving education for her people. The implied message: DR could do just as well and save lots of money in the process.

that is the kind of reasoning you get from a guy who has a very limited brain. YOU are the one who is correlating public expenditure with results. i am simply showing that there are cases wherein countries have done it with less, so money cannot be a PREDICTOR, like you think it is. i am not computer savvy, so i cannot communicate with you using cartoon characters.

@Atabey,

Ten percent (10%) taxation too low, compared to to well-developed European welfare states, where it is in excess of 40%, you stated. Well, most European countries such as Greece, Spain, France, Ireland, Portugal, Italy, etc. are experiencing tremendous economic issues-many of which can be attributable to their rather generous welfare system. Is that really the model you'd wish for DR to follow? How could we sustain such model when we are consumers rather than producers?

Given DR realities, with all of the institutionalized corruption, if the nation were to wind up with just 10% of income taxes revenues, I would call that a win because, today, after everyone gets done taking their share, we would be fortunate to wind up with 10% left in the pot to run the country.

BTW, are you contemplating relocating to Europe, since taxes are so attractive there? I would suggest Greece or Spain.

MJEV.

RoyS ,,the real reason that I keep all my affairs in good order here and I have a few smaall investments here that are now taxable is that I am relatively old and when I die my Dominican assets go to my Dominican friends here. But if I had not been paying the due taxes, the office of internal revenues would charge my estate a fortune in past due and with enormous interest .
I did not know where to pay the taxes as each of my little houses has a value of under 5 million pesos that is not individually taxable but in total they are taxable,,,these days the values are accumulated .Well I chose the San Pedro ffice and itturned out a winner ...The next thing will be the value they place on my 2 year old car because now I must pay 1 % on that ..Most cars deprediate quickly in the first year ,then level out ,but I am assuming the government will simply apply a flatrate to be applied over 10 years ,,then there will be many fights

No way.

I'm fine in NYC, Manhattan.

Posted: 04/15/2011

By: By THOMAS HARGROVE, Scripps Howard News Service

Americans pay much less in taxes than most other people in the industrialized world.

Surprised?

According to the latest estimates from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development -- a Paris-based consortium that tracks financial conditions in 34 nations -- the United States pays 24 percent of its total economy (as measured by gross domestic product) to taxes collected by all levels of government.

That's a bargain compared to most developed nations.

Australians pay 27 percent; the Japanese pony up 28 percent; Canadians, 31 percent; British, 34 percent; Germans, 37 percent; French, 42 percent; and Swedes, 46 percent. Danes lead the world by forking over 48 percent to their government."


I think that DR aiming for say, 20% of GDP, would mean a great deal to its modernization project.


Look at Chile and Costa Rica.

Glomar, apart from the fact that you make very good answers in response to Atabey, you will get nowhere with him, since he is intellectually dishonest. he keeps reiterating that the tax rates in the DR are too low, in relation to the rest of the territories in Latin America. he has trotted out the same tired old charts, day after day, to make his pathetic case. now that the 2013 assessments of Ease of Doing Business show that the DR has the highest tax rates vis a vis taxation to corporate gross profit, he suddenly has developed a severe case of laryngitis. he has run away from that figure like a scared cat. i wonder why?

Going against Dr. Dread and Dr. Strangelove is like trying to Fight Muhammad Ali and George Foreman in their prime.


Throw in the Towel IDIOT IRS Atabey you CAN’T WIN!

commands Atabey

Look at Chile and Costa Rica.

i did. both the DR and Costa Rica have the same Corporate tax rates, the same individual tax rate maximum and minimum, and roughly the same payroll withholdings,,except that Costa Rica has a payroll minimum of 0%, while the DR has a minimum of 10%. Costa Rica has a VAT of 10%, while the DR has 18%. comments, Atabey?

"Float like Butterfly and Sting like Bee" Dr.D!

says josean

Written by: josean, 31 Jan 2013 8:17 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


"Fly like Butterfly and Sting like Bee" Dr.D!

even if i was a paraplegic, beating up on Atabey would still be child's play?

As a % of GDP. I know that stinging skinning has you all in a state of rage. :)

Have to find some way, thinks the Dready. But it's Taxation expressed as a % of GDP......as a % of GDP.......As a % of GDP.......



"The Doing Business 2010 report, a joint publication of the World Bank, International Finance Corporation and PricewaterhouseCoopers, ranked Jamaica one of the 10 most difficult countries in the world to pay taxes--174 out of 183 countries."

Read more .jamaicaobserver.

:)


No amount of hand holding and encouragement from your posse of diaper holders will ease that from your memory dear Dready....and never will.


:)

says Atabey

Have to find some way, thinks the Dready. But it's Taxation expressed as a % of GDP......as a % of GDP.......As a % of GDP...

taxes are assessed by rates, Atabey. you are the one who believes that the rates are too low. forget this little matter of % of GDP, since it is confusing you. why don't you suggest to government that the tax rates are too low, and they need to be raised. see how much more taxes you get. corporations cannot evade taxes like individuals can. so, tell some foreign firm that you are raising the tax rate from 42% to 50%, because of shortfall, and see what happens. the problem you have is that you are trying to juggle too many things you don't understand, all at the same time. your little brain has overheated.

Dready,

apples to apples. The rates are expressed in the various studies as % of GDP.

Then the nations are divided into Low Tax Collection and High Tax Effort and Low Tax Collection and Low Tax Effort.

Also, High Tax Collection and Low Tax Effort and High Tax Collection and High Tax Effort.


The Dominican Republic is listed as: Low Tax Collection and Low Tax Effort.


If you believe otherwise, write the World Bank and explain to them that YOUR DREADY ANALYSIS has determined their work is in error.


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says Atabey

apples to apples. The rates are expressed in the various studies as % of GDP.

no, Atabey. the rates are expressed in terms of government statutes. the government sets the corporate tax rates. it sets VAT. it sets withholding rates. it sets the rates of private income tax rates. the rates you are talking about are tax burden. the reason why that percentage is low is that the department of statistics has underestimated the size of the informal sector. why am i bothering to educate you? there is no upside for me in this. i am not getting paid, and you refuse to learn anything, because you know everything already. must be that Magna Cum Laude you have, from that unknown university.

Atabey ,,,I do not know where you are getting your taxation figures from ,,,but they are way out ...maybe you are just referring to income taxes and not to the combination of income taxes and such taxes as VAT or GST that in some countries make up the majority of taxes for individuals .

Ricardolito, Atabey does not know enough to explain himself to you. he is hopelessly confused. he does not know the difference between tax rates, tax effort, GDP, GNI, or anything. he reads too many copy and paste articles, and, since he never spent an hour in an economics class, he jumbles everyhing into this mish mosh pudding, and makes a hash of intelligent discourse. now watch him post some chart, and tell you that Jacques Atalli and CEPAL agree with him.