Happy 169th Dominican Republic!

Viva La Republica Dominicana!

congratulations to all Dominicans on this your day of Independence. i wish the republic nothing but great things for the future. hopefully, divine providence will make you all the gift of honest, competent leaders, who one day realize that this country belongs to everyone, and, as such, everyone deserves an opportunity, whether their name is Brugal, or they were born in the same house in the barrio that their mothers were.

Have a good day, everyone

A very attractive flag,a wonderful national hymn and a happy and unique race of people all make the DR a very good place to live in .. Hail thee festival day !!

REMEMBER this day all the BLOOD that was paid to Haitians for our freedom, 12 years of blood and struggle is a lot of it...

Quisqueyanos valientes, alcemos
Nuestro canto con viva emoción,
Y del mundo a la faz ostentemos
Nuestro invicto glorioso pendón.

¡Salve! el pueblo que, intrépido y fuerte,
A la guerra a morir se lanzó,
Cuando en bélico reto de muerte
Sus cadenas de esclavo rompió.

Ningún pueblo ser libre merece
Si es esclavo indolente y servil;
Si en su pecho la llama no crece
Que templó el heroísmo viril,

Mas Quisqueya la indómita y brava
Siempre altiva la frente alzará;
Que si fuere mil veces esclava
Otras tantas ser libre sabrá.

Que si dolo y ardid la expusieron
De un intruso señor al desdén,
¡Las Carreras! ¡Beller!, campos fueron
Que cubiertos de gloria se ven.

Que en la cima de heroíco baluarte
De los libres el verbo encarnó,
Donde el genio de Sánchez y Duarte
A ser libre o morir enseñó.

Y si pudo inconsulto caudillo
De esas glorias el brillo empañar,
De la guerra se vio en Capotillo
La bandera de fuego ondear.

cont.

Y el incendio que atónito deja
De Castilla al soberbio león,
De las playas gloriosas le aleja
Donde flota el cruzado pendón.

Compatriotas, mostremos erguida
Nuestra frente, orgullosos de hoy más;
Que Quisqueya será destruida
Pero sierva de nuevo, ¡jamás!

Que es santuario de amor cada pecho
Do la patria se siente vivir;
Y es su escudo invencible: el derecho;
Y es su lema: ser libre o morir.

¡Libertad! que aún se yergue serena
La Victoria en su carro triunfal,
Y el clarín de la guerra aún resuena
Pregonando su gloria inmortal.

¡Libertad! Que los ecos se agiten
Mientras llenos de noble ansiedad
Nuestros campos de gloria repiten
¡Libertad! ¡Libertad! ¡Libertad!

Dreadlocks- Those are wonderful sentiments. Let's hope they come true.

so do i, PEDRIN. Dominicans are beautiful spirits who deserve a better hand than the ones their leaders deal them

That's way so many of them are there, they want there country back!!!! Now that was funny!!!

viva mi republica dominicana y viva duarte sanchez y mella padres de la patria dominicana . viva la libertad love my country

THE TRINITARIAN OATH

"In the name of the Holy, Venerable and indivisible Trinity of God Almighty: I swear and I promise, on my honor and on my conscience, in the hands of our President Juan Pablo Duarte, to dedicate my person, my life and my property to the definitive separation from the Haitian government, and to establish a free republic that shall be called the Dominican Republic, that shall have a tricolor flag in quarters of red and blue, divided by a cross of white. In the meantime, we shall be Known as the Trinitarians, with the sacred motto: God, Country and Liberty. This I promise before God and the world. If I comply, God will protect me; and if not, may He not hold it against me, and may my companions punish my perjury and my treason should I betray them."

Viva La República Dominicana!

Much blood and toil did it take to gain our independence from Haiti and as Airgordo and others have mentioned above, THE LONG POST INDEPENDENCE STRUGGLE TO SECURE THE INDEPENDENCE WAS AS BLOODY AND COST OUR BLOODLINES MUCH SUFFERING. THEY TOO MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN ON THIS DAY!

"The solemn hour had arrived: a group of patriots anxiously awaited those who were late in a distant and solitary part of the city called La Misericordia, at the foot of Saint Giles Fort. . . One of the band finally arrived, excited and out of breath "I think they have discovered everything, " he said. "A patrol has seen following me, and I had to take the long way around in order to get here. " These words put fear into the few that were listening; a frightened one already spoke of returning home and leaving the glorious project. "NO," a robust, boyish voice replied firmly, carelessly disturbing the quiet night.

"WE CANNOT TURN BACK. COWARDLY OR VALIANT, WE MUST ALL GO TO THE END. LONG LIVE THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC!

He spoke, and a loud firing of his gun noisily accented the heroic cry. No one hesitated then: everyone renounced their lives and ran toward the venerable Conde Gate. The bold shot made by the intrepid RAMON MELLA announced to the world the birth of the Dominican Repub

"In the name of the Holy, Venerable and indivisible Trinity of God Almighty== screw them!

Today I hired a Haytian so as I could have a worker I could TRUST!

"Our period of Independence, and thereby, our process of moral independence, lasts, for me, from 1821 to 1873. During this half century, the most heroic moment, the apex, is 1844. However, that date must be considered as the middle, not as the beginning. The independence of the Republic as a fact, as a country, I believe, must date from 1821, although as an effective reality it did not exist until 1844, nor as a moral reality until 1873.

It is logical independence, for the countries of America, means independence from Europe, not from the other countries of America, although these have seen of races and customs so different from those or the people over whom they ruled (as happened in our case) that the domination seemed like tyranny. Surely I am not the only Dominican who has seen himself in this conflict when a Hispanic American asks us the date of our independence, we respond, naturally, 1844;

but since the question is frequently asked whether Spain at that time still had battles in America, we have to explain that we had been separated from Spain since 1821; therefore, we declare tacitly that is the date of Dominican independence.

I do not claim, nor by any means affirm, that 1821 was our most glorious date. It is not: our symbolic date must always be that which the popular vote selected, the 27th of February, not because it was the beginning, but because it commemorates the most serious and most deeply thought out work, the most heroically realized (so much so that the people themselves did not understand it, according to that "Rufinito" of yours) in the fifty years that I have called "our period of independence."

(Passages from the letter of Pedro Henriquez Arena to Federico Garcia Godoy La Vega, Dominican Republic. Mexico,1909.)

Saludos desde Canadá.

Feliz día de la independencia a todos! Viva La Republica Dominicana!!

dios bendiga todos los dias la republica dominicana ,

Happy 169th Dominican Republic!
Have a great celebration on the Malecon, and everywhere in the country!!!!

Great speech by Danilo but you could tell that he is not a talker but a doer!

hey, Atabey, instead of posting 5000 word copy and paste articles, should you not be down here celebrating your country's independence with your compatriots? or, do i expect to see you later, when i go to the Independence Day Parade on the Malecon? how will i recognize you? will you be the guy dressed up as Duarte, Sanchez, and Mella?

he does not need to talk a lot , he is a very smart man and knows what he has to do to better our country . leave him alone let him do his job thats why we put him there .

first thing he needs to do is to send Leonel into exile.

Written by: dreadlocks, 27 Feb 2013 12:15 PM
From: United States

hey, Atabey, instead of posting 5000 word copy and paste articles, should you not be down here celebrating your country's independence with your compatriots? or, do i expect to see you later, when i go to the Independence Day Parade on the Malecon? how will i recognize you? will you be the guy dressed up as Duarte, Sanchez, and Mella?'


Dready are you by any chance related to Faustin-Élie Soulouque? He was in Jamaica, I understand. More on that later.


Today, we Dominicans celebrate so no cigar for you and chill out, Dready . Only good vibes.

Atabey will come to carnival dressed as the molondron that he is.

Remember that today is a celebration of a wonderful day in the history of the Dominican Republic and as such we should all be praising the birth of the nation and not bickering over differences in opinion

I have been getting a mixed feeling, on this day for the last 20 years,

when I see that our country is being invade by Haitians once again.

Although this time it is pacific, it still continues to be an invasion.

We need to raise our voices against Haitian invasion to our government,

as we have concerning Barrick Gold.

EXPEL ALL ILLEGAL HAITIANS FROM QUISQUEYA !!!

VIVA LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA !!!!

Viva nuestra patria.
En este dia, con mucho orgullo de ser Dominicano.!

Independence?
From what?
Ha ha ha!
One of the most "dependent" countries on the planet!

Roy

You wouldn't know what is the meaning of independence,

coming from a British commonwealth, still dependent on your colonizers.


We Dominicans got our first independence from Spain, back in 1821,

a time when Australia was not even on the map


This is our second independence, the one from our neighbors, that we are celebrating, back in 1844.


Then a third independence from Spain in 1861.


So we Dominicans know more about the subject of independence,

than your country Australia will ever learn.

VIVA LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA !!!!!

Lets's see how independent ....
dependent on Americans to defend you
dependent on Canadians to dig you minerals
dependent on Haitians to do your hard work
dependent on the World Bank to lend you the money to survive
dependent on The Vatican for school curricula
dependent on Europe & USA for tourism
dependent on American disapora to send beer-money home
dependent on foreigners to build infrastructure
dependent on USA to make baseball players
dependent on Colombia for coke

rokete,
You need to travel.
For most of the world, the Dominican Republic is still not on the map.

Roy

Where is your Dictionary ??

Those are collaborators you are listing.

LOL

JAJAJAJA

"Independence?
From what?
Ha ha ha!"

That was not very nice, Roy!

You're mocking us, and everything my nation stands for! .......Even if DR isn't up to your standards, let us be. It's our day of glory....Such as it is..

Ron says: "That was not very nice, Roy!"

What can you expect from someone who has to travel abroad in order to get pussy, Ron? As our elders would say "no se puede pedir peras al olmo".

Mr. Roy.
There are certain unwritten rules of passage you may not be aware of.
I’ll take the liberty to point them out to you and others who may want to improve on their lot in life:

#1—One does not flaunt his wealth. To do so is to be arrogant and condescending.
#2—One does not make fun of a person’s disability, especially a physical one.
#3—One does not insult anyone without provocation. We must maintain our composure.
#4—One does not advertise his presupposed intelligence. To do so, proves otherwise.
#5---One must understand his standing in life. No one is better or worse, regardless of status.
#6—acting upon any of these failings on someone’s birthday, is doubly verboten.

Humanity, by its implicit nature, demands the above in order for one to qualify as decent, noble and worthy of appreciation…. I like being appreciated, and you?

Written by: Lautaro, 27 Feb 2013 8:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Ron says: "That was not very nice, Roy!"

What can you expect from someone who has to travel abroad in order to get pussy, Ron? As our elders would say "no se puede pedir peras al olmo".

----------Mr Lautaro, he forgot the number one "dependent"..

We are dependent on expats like him to fall in love with those ugly and easy women we don't care to touch with a 10 foot pole. La sobra.

What can I say, TinyTim? As the saying goes, "birds of a feathers flock together", which in his case and the ones of similar scumbags applies down to the last detail. Scumbags and grillos, what a nice combination we have there!

Roy, GTFO retarded prick.

I was hoping some "patriot" might step up and give just one example of where the Dominican Republic is not dependent, rather than resorting to the usual response, of personal attack. After half a millennium, the Dominican Republic still hasn't achieved adulthood it seems.

.oh, and TinyTim, for your information, my Dominican wife is neither easy nor ugly, and you could not touch her regardless of the length of your pole, or the size of your ego.

Gracias JPD por liberarno de esos asarosos.

And you guys still think Roy is from Australia, please?

Nothing but a self hating Asarosos!!!

The great problem RoyS is that you, yourself , have decided to deliberately misinterpret the english word independance and have tried to reduce the importance of the day which is a day celebrating freedom for Dominicans and instead you listed a number of trade agreements and used the word dependant .
You did this I feel sure ,just to be smart but it was not an appropriate comment on the day that we celebrate DR independance from foreign control and the beginning of our country.
Many words in spanish and english have several meanings depending on the sentance but you have to be either ignorant , boorish or deliberately provocative to choose the wrong meaning .Can you be all three at times

Sorry, Ricky,
but I can't think of any usage of the word "independent" that applies to the Dominican Republic.

RoyStone says

oh, and TinyTim, for your information, my Dominican wife is neither easy nor ugly, and you could not touch her regardless of the length of your pole, or the size of your ego.

-------Sorry to disappoint you but most expats are known to get the escrapulas Dominican males care very little for after using them at will.

You, talking about ego?.

All one needs to do is read a few of your posts to realize one is dealing with someone who thinks he is better than Dominicans.

Sorry to disappoint you again but Dominican women married to expats have a reputation in the DR. Not a nice one, I have tell you. But I now there are some exceptions.

For the fact that she is with a person like you, someone that sounds so negative, sour and miserable, I wouldn't touch her with anything even if she were the last woman on earth.

You just couldn't allow Dominicans here to have a good time while celebrating our Independence, right?.

Who's the one with the ego?.

"I was hoping some "patriot" might step up and give just one example of where the Dominican Republic is not dependent."

Every nation on this planet depends on others for commerce, aid, loans, technical expertise, etc.
Some more than others. And this is how it should be. No nation, including Australia, is self sufficient in all things needed for survival/ prosperity. To think otherwise is foolish and arrogant.

No question our little piece of the world has many faults and it's not up to snuff in many more .It is, nevertheless, a place where many visit to enjoy the climate and its people. To do business in, to find peace, retire to, and even find a mate.
It is certainly not Eden, but for some, it's pretty darn close to it. We have everything anyone could possibly ask for. Like the advertisement : "Dominican Republic has it all". Including things you may not want or need.

Roy, you came, you saw, you conquered a "piece" of our nation. Be nice and feel lucky you did. Eh?

OF course we are one of the many independant nations on earth that are represented in the UN and at the Olympic games and the decisions of Parliament are made just like any any other parliament but maybe subject to treaties that any country is at liberty to sign up to //Even the decisions of the Australian Parliament are subject to some UN rules...but this is because Australia decided to sign up to protocols just as the DR has .

It's sad how quickly the celebrative comments degenerated into Dominicans bragging about which local prostitutes are better than others. And it's disgusting that some of you fake Dominican men pretend to have scruples about women, when the evidence of that lack of scruples or concern or care or respect are riding the backs of cheap motor conchos clutching a baby, on the way to look for free medical care that you fake males refuse to pay for. Happy Independence Day. Remember that women in your country look for foreign men because they feel that Dominican men are lazy and drunken and violent and stupid. That's a version of Independence that fake men find in many places in the world.

Written by: DaveB, 28 Feb 2013 2:19 PM
From: United States

Remember that women in your country look for foreign men because they feel that Dominican men are lazy and drunken and violent and stupid. That's a version of Independence that fake men find in many places in the world.

-----------Are you sure those are the reasons?.

What about the fact that a foreigner is easier to manipulate?.

What about the fact that a foreigner will believe her sad stories while a Dominican male will see through her lies?.

Not to mention the fact they see foreigners as desperate cash machines willing to do anything to take them to their countries.

Let me correct you, not all Dominican females care for foreigners/expats.

DaveB said: "It's sad how quickly the celebrative comments degenerated into Dominicans bragging about which local prostitutes are better than others."

You got it all wrong. We're not bragging about having better prostitutes than yours, we are only taking pity of the fact that white trash like the "person" three posts above you have to get out of his country in order to get laid, cuz' if he remained on his subcontinent he wouldn't be able to get the time of day from his countrywomen. I suppose that the fact that you jumped into his defense must mean that you are also afflicted from the same evil. As Tim said, these women that consort with these kind of "persons" are generally the refuse of society that generally live in and around the touristic complex, cuz' no self-respecting woman of the middle class living in our cities would shamed herself by getting to even socialize with these scum.

You should step outside your barred doors and windows and meet more of your 'countrymen', boys. Thanks for confirming the gutter stereotype that the rest if the world frequently sees in you. Too bad, because there are a lot of decent people in the DR, many of them expats. You 2 are the kind of boys that stand on the street and blab obscenities to all the women walking by, grab them by the arm and treat them like subhumans. Brag some more, niños.

Roy

Your favorite beaches in DR are Nigua, and Cocolandia.

I know you low class, and the kind of Dominican women you got there.

In any case this forum is not about your low life.

It's about our second independence celebration.


Therefore:

QUE VIVA QUISQUEYA !!!!

QUE VIVA LA REPUBLICA DOMINICANA


Therefore

DaveB, the truth hurts, right?.

Written by: Lautaro, 28 Feb 2013 6:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo

You got it all wrong. We're not bragging about having better prostitutes than yours, we are only taking pity of the fact that white trash like the "person" three posts above you have to get out of his country in order to get laid, cuz' if he remaind on his subcontinent he wouldn't be able to get the time of day from his countrywomen. I suppose that the fact that you jumped into his defense must mean that you are also afflicted from the same evil. As Tim said, these women that consort with these kind of "persons" are generally the refuse of society that generally live in and around the touristic complex, cuz' no self-respecting woman of the middle class living in our cities would shamed herself by getting to even socialize with these scum.

-------Mr Lautaro, in my opinion, no self-respecting Dominican of any class would give most of them the time of day.

Duly noted, TinyTim.

As for you, DaveB, we will only respect others when they respect us. It's a thing called reciprocity, you know, something that the Aussie carpetbagger, or you, have failed to show to your hosts.

Written by: RonEvane, 28 Feb 2013 2:32 PM

From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland


"get a education........"

How about starting with you, Bud? Perhaps learning to write the English language will help... You think?


THANKS FOR BECOMING A MEMBER OF MY FAN CLUB JERK..... U MUST HAVE YOUR SELF A 14Y OLD GIRLFRIEND......
WITH THE NAME RON.. U CANT BE DOMINICIAN CAN U?
U LIKE MY ENGLISH NOW?
FOOL.....

that white trash like the "person" three posts above you have to get out of his country in order to get laid, cuz' if he remaind on his subcontinent

yes their are many what u call white trash..
but guy u people on the island of the dominican republic sell your wifes and children......... u also lynch hatians... like your in the old wild west days....
u talk about trash? cant go much lower then the comments i made above can u? in the 1970's rob cars in new york and ship them back to the dr, in the 80's real estates fraud, now its the low-life drug dealing.....
u talk about trash and low-lifes?
lower then puerto ricans... and thats hard to do..
u want to see real dominicans just go to w/h's in the bronx u have to see this.... man one needs to see the wild men run wild.....

Why don't you go to Cuba and show your displeasure to Fidel instead, Cubanito? It's so very easy to be valiant when insulting at a distance.

Says Danny the Zero, Zero.:

"WITH THE NAME RON.. U CANT BE DOMINICIAN CAN U?"

Well, I didn't choose to be born in the DR......I was just extremely lucky!

DaveB,
Is absolutely correct about what many Dominican women say about their men. Take a look at the tens of thousands of Dominican woman just on one site, latineuro.com longing for a foreigner to take them away. Sure, some are scammers and some are prostitutes, but most are not, and include many university graduates and professionals.

rokete,

Nigua is not my favorite beach. I mentioned it as an example of what Duminicans do to their beaches. I much prefer beaches like Rincon.

Written by: Lautaro, 28 Feb 2013 10:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Why don't you go to Cuba and show your displeasure to Fidel instead, Cubanito? It's so very easy to be valiant when insulting at a distance.

-------------Another Cubano?.

Thy should change the site's name to CubanosToday.

Written by: RoyStone, 1 Mar 2013 7:49 AM
From: Australia
DaveB,
Is absolutely correct about what many Dominican women say about their men. Take a look at the tens of thousands of Dominican woman just on one site, latineuro.com longing for a foreigner to take them away. Sure, some are scammers and some are prostitutes, but most are not, and include many university graduates and professionals.

--------Have no doubts, most say that when trying to land a foreigner/sugar daddy.

They can't stop saying negative things about Dominicans when talking to someone that they will use and abuse in the long run.

All they see is $$$$ signs and an easy to fool person that will get them a visa.

You will not find a self-respecting Dominican using a site to look for men.

No matter how you want to paint it, most foreigner get what Dominican males are tired of.

I am not saying anything all Dominican don't know.

You should thank us one was left for you.

says RoyStone

Take a look at the tens of thousands of Dominican woman just on one site, latineuro.com longing for a foreigner to take them away.

actually, Roy, i have to disagree with you here. i took a look at that euro site, and those girls i see there are not looking for a foreigner to take them away. they are looking to take away a foreigner's money. the majority of these girls can be found in places like Sosua seven days a week, and twice on Sundays.

Written by: dreadlocks, 1 Mar 2013 9:36 AM
From: United States
says RoyStone

Take a look at the tens of thousands of Dominican woman just on one site, latineuro.com longing for a foreigner to take them away.

actually, Roy, i have to disagree with you here. i took a look at that euro site, and those girls i see there are not looking for a foreigner to take them away. they are looking to take away a foreigner's money. the majority of these girls can be found in places like Sosua seven days a week, and twice on Sundays.

-----------Mr dreadlocks, it's sad that at this time and age some of these foreigners don't know they are being taken for a ride.

Most of the girls RoyStone glorified (from the site) are not looking for one foreigner.

Most have a few "novios" sending them money every week.

Even after finding a desperate one to marry them, they keep the other "novios".

I guess RoyStone was not in class when the teacher said that thing about love being blind and stup

not one of those girls is the proverbial soltera, looking for a good man to make them into a wife. these girls all have their little novios with the Yamaha Jog scooter. they live on these social websites, looking for new Western Union victims 24 hours per day.

Written by: dreadlocks, 1 Mar 2013 9:58 AM
From: United States
not one of those girls is the proverbial soltera, looking for a good man to make them into a wife. these girls all have their little novios with the Yamaha Jog scooter. they live on these social websites, looking for new Western Union victims 24 hours per day.

------------Mr dreadlocks, it seems RoyStone knows very little about how those women operate.

I hope he didn't meet his wife in one of those sites.

Those women he thinks are looking for a foreigner because they can't stand Dominican males most probably have a Dominican chulo who's probably in on the charade.

Maybe RoyStone should go to DR1 and read the many threads about those women in case he is on the same boat.

TinyTim said:

"Those women he thinks are looking for a foreigner because they can't stand Dominican males most probably have a Dominican chulo who's probably in on the charade."

I agree 100 %.

It takes a tiguere to know how those hores operate.

Even if they are taken to Europe and US, they are still sending their papi money to DR.

And come back to DR for a sexual escapade with they beloved chulo.

I have seen that scam for decades.

says rokete

It takes a tiguere to know how those hores operate.


it most certainly does not. all it takes is a guy with half a brain. these are not the sharpest girls in the world. none of them is too bright, or they would have made something of themselves, instead of living their lives as perpetual beggars and parasites. the problem is that the guys who fall for their simplistic and elementary scams are even dumber than they are. the girls all have the same sob stories about their mothers being sick, and needing money for a doctor's visit, an analysis, or a pharmacy prescription. every one of them. how lame is that? you do not have to be too slick to figure that one out.

I"ve been around a while and gotten to know a little about human nature. I believe most women on these "cupid" sites aren't prostitutes or looking to scam anyone.

Most people anywhere on this planet, genuinely seek love, fidelity, moral support, economic security, warmth, mutual sexual satisfaction, and a solid, long-lasting bond between the two. This is what is called "marriage", which can be a very good thing, indeed..... For most.

We can't generalize. Sure, lots of women dream of being swept away by their illusory/romantic prince.
This is especially true for people living in poverty, such as DR..
Finding the "right" mate can be a challenge and quite a few will turn to foreigners who are perceived as better befitting all of the above.

And yes, on occasion, an unlucky fellow will fall into the trap of an unscrupulous evil beach who'll rip his heart and wallet! To avoid this, we guys must use our head...The one on top.

Dready

Vis a vis

Many of these girls are smart, they are simply lazy,

or are repeating the same vicious cycle they see.

i agree with the vicious cycle thing, 100%. they were born into poverty, and they stay that way, forever. and so do their kids. and their mother was poor. it is conditioning. you cannot get the barrio out of some barrio people. my buddy lives beside a Canadian guy who has big bucks. he has a house in the most luxurious sector of POP. the Canadian guy has this Dominican girlfriend who lives with him. he provides all the material things she can possibly need, and he loves the ground she walks on. so, a little before Christmas, he decides to pop up to Ottawa to see his folks for the season. before the guy has fastened his seat belt on Air Canada, this broad has her motoncho chulo in the guy's house, and even driving his brand new Suzuki Grand Vitara. she does not even have the decency to protect the guy's hard earned property! surely her lover boy could not replace a parking lamp on the car if he got into an accident. so, the guy comes back, and the neighbors rat her out.

well, she is back where she came from, in the bowels of the barrio. another Einstein, who got a break to pull herself and her kids out of the ghetto, and to break the cycle of misery...but no. she just wants to be back where she came from, living on fried salami and mangu all her days, drinking beer all day long, and ending up with a beer belly by the time she is 25. she ain't too tiguere, if you ask me.

RonEvane, please go to DR1 and read a few of the many threads about what we are talking about.

The odds are against a foreigner that finds romance/love with a Dominican who's looking to land a mate via a romance site.

The majority of those relationships end with the foreigner crying his eyes out after realizing how much of a fool he was for allowing someone to use him as a cash machine. Not to mention a door mat.

dreadlocks said

all have the same sob stories about their mothers being sick, and needing money for a doctor's visit, an analysis, or a pharmacy prescription. every one of them. how lame is that? you do not have to be too slick to figure that one out.

---------You forgot the number one story, the accident her mother/father/brother/sister/cousin/son/primo/tia had.

No to mention not having money for the rent/all utilities, not having money to eat and last but not least, not having money to buy a cell phone to call her foreign papi.

The latter gets the gringo all the time and in no time, HELLO WESTERN UNION every week.

Tiny Tim, i am a pretty sharp guy, and i figure stuff out real fast. the first thing i noticed the first time i came to the DR was that EVERY girl i met, i happened to meet them on the day before their birthdays

from there on, it became really easy for me to see right through them.

Written by: dreadlocks, 1 Mar 2013 8:50 PM
From: United States
Tiny Tim, i am a pretty sharp guy, and i figure stuff out real fast. the first thing i noticed the first time i came to the DR was that EVERY girl i met, i happened to meet them on the day before their birthdays

from there on, it became really easy for me to see right through them.

-------------------They have been using that line for as long as I remember.

Don't get me wrong, I am not talking about all females.

Some wouldn't accept money from a suitor even if their lives depended on it.

Those can't be reached by a foreigner.

What about the other nice one they tell their sugar daddies, the one about not having money to buy him a gift. You know, expecting her cash machine to send her money to buy him a present.

That one kills me all the time. LOL.

Tiny Tim, i am fortunate insofar as the company i keep in the DR. i am not wealthy, but i have been fortunate in that i speak fluent spanish, and my interests coincide with those of the upper crust of the local society, and so i am part of their circles, to a limited extent. i tell gringos all the time that they have to be careful about making generalizations about Dominicans only wanting gringos for their money, because some of the women i know here would not even fart on some of these greasy old slimebuckets who believe they are so important because they come from North America, and they have money.

Yo got it right this time, Ron.
There are scammers in every country, not just the DR. Perhaps more in the DR because they have been cheated on so much themselves.
As for lack of education, just go to any Dominican university graduation ceremony - by far the majority of graduates are women.

Roy, funny you mentioned that. just last saturday, i was standing near to the entrance to a Dominican institution of higher learning. i ended up having to ask a guy nearby where were the men. it was all women, coming and going. don't the guys here bother with going to college?

Written by: dreadlocks, 1 Mar 2013 9:11 PM
From: United States
Tiny Tim, i am fortunate insofar as the company i keep in the DR. i am not wealthy, but i have been fortunate in that i speak fluent spanish, and my interests coincide with those of the upper crust of the local society, and so i am part of their circles, to a limited extent. i tell gringos all the time that they have to be careful about making generalizations about Dominicans only wanting gringos for their money, because some of the women i know here would not even fart on some of these greasy old slimebuckets who believe they are so important because they come from North America, and they have money.

-------Mr dreadlocks, Dominicans from the upper crust do not allow foreigners into their circle unless the foreigners prove themselves to them.

If they are seen parading a young girl around, a dark-skinned girl that looks like a lady of the night, they will never be accepted.

Tiny Tim, it is not as if the upper crust does not do their little thing on the side. but that is what cabanas are for. this is a very class conscious society, and the top echelons of this society look down upon people who do not carry themselves a certain way. i know that most of the women who speak to me when i am in their company only do so because the elders have vouched for me, and told them i am acceptable. that way, they will hold a casual conversation with me. i would not even be presumptious enough to ask any of them out on a date.

Tiny Tim, it is not as if the upper crust does not do their little thing on the side. but that is what cabanas are for. this is a very class conscious society, and the top echelons of this society look down upon people who do not carry themselves a certain way. i know that most of the women who speak to me when i am in their company only do so because the elders have vouched for me, and told them i am acceptable. that way, they will hold a casual conversation with me. i would not even be presumptious enough to ask any of them out on a date.

Tiny Tim.
The trick here is not to be lured by the first hole one sees, or the first who looks back at you. We foreigners have the privilege of being thought of as well-off and sophisticated, (prime beef); therefore, we must play on that perception and use it to “taste” as many as we can safely manage before concentrating on one or the other.
Generally speaking, we have the advantage of having lived longer and the experience that goes with it. Thus, one would presume, the smarts to look beyond the facade.
If we take our time to pay particular attention to details; especially age, income, education, number of children if any, where she lives, family ties, and last, but not least, how good a lover she is, will uncover her true self, and a pretty good idea of her intentions for you. .. As always, the intensity of her affection can be a measure of her love for you…If any.

Written by: dreadlocks, 1 Mar 2013 10:05 PM

Tiny Tim, it is not as if the upper crust does not do their little thing on the side. but that is what cabanas are for. this is a very class conscious society, and the top echelons of this society look down upon people who do not carry themselves a certain way. i know that most of the women who speak to me when i am in their company only do so because the elders have vouched for me, and told them i am acceptable. that way, they will hold a casual conversation with me. i would not even be presumptious enough to ask any of them out on a date.

--Mr DL, what sets you apart from some of those grillo loving foreigners is that you have lived in the DR for years, you don't pretend to be someone you are not and going based on your posts, you are a well read, smart and educated man.

I am willing to bet your reputations means everything to you.

For which reason you wouldn't be caught dead courting a grillo looking lady of night around town.

thanks for your kind remarks. i will never say that i am some puritan, and that i do not partake of the fun and games, from time to time. however, i fully realize that i could never bring some barrio bunny into the company of my friends that operate at the higher levels. i would never even consider such a display of disrespect for my friends.

Written by: RonEvane, 1 Mar 2013 10:07 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland

Tiny Tim.
The trick here is not to be lured by the first hole one sees, or the first who looks back at you. We foreigners have the privilege of being thought of as well-off and sophisticated, (prime beef); therefore, we must play on that perception and use it to “taste” as many as we can safely manage before concentrating on one or the other.

--------Ron, that's the problem, most are lured by the first hole they see. Many out of desperation.

Poor Dominicans, like poor people from all over the world, think gringos/expats/foreigners equals money.

Even if the gringo doesn't have a penny to his name.

Still, all of you paying-for-it DR natives and residents are naming even your own wives and daughters as prostitutes. You think the rest of us haven't seen how everyone is you treat every woman that exists? You talk about the real world; I'm talking about the honest world.

Written by: RoyStone, 27 Feb 2013 6:47 PM
From: Australia
Independence?
From what?
Ha ha ha!
One of the most "dependent" countries on the planet!
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CONGRATULATIONS, you just exercised you Quota on IGNORANCE on this matter, that is why people should READ and EDUCATE THEMSELVES on a subject then POST, not backwards...

Written by: airgordo, 4 Mar 2013 8:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: RoyStone, 27 Feb 2013 6:47 PM
From: Australia
Independence?
From what?
Ha ha ha!
One of the most "dependent" countries on the planet!
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CONGRATULATIONS, you just exercised you Quota on IGNORANCE on this matter, that is why people should READ and EDUCATE THEMSELVES on a subject then POST, not backwards...

-------I wouldn't worry much about that character if I were you.

The guy sounds like an anti-Dominican charlatan.

Then educate me, airgordo,
I have listed how the Dominican Republic "depends" on other countries. Tell me where it is independent.

Roy.
I said it before. No country is totally "independent" of the rest of the world. We depend on one- another for just about anything conceivable.
But I want to turn this question around and ask YOU : Is there one nation in this world today that you think is totally independent of any other?.!.. Is Australia totally independent??? Eh?

On the other hand, our nation is independent in the sense that it has its particular traditions and culture, its specific niche in this world which no other can replicate. Ours is a true “melting pot”, with many races and nationalities mixed in, that makes us unique.
Thus, unlike Australia, Japan, China, Congo, Philippines, Haiti, and so many others with a homogenous population, we are a true definition of what a rare, distinctive and matchless culture is like.!! We‘re like a good soup, with many ingredients that, cooked together, makes for a very tasty nation, indeed!

Ron,
1) Australia has a reciprocal arrangement with many countries. This is very distinct from living off foreign loans and importing almost everything.

2) Australia is far more heterogeneous and multicultural than the Dominican Republic. I have lived in both.

"Reciprocal"? Is that your fancy term for "commerce"? Does this mean your nation "trades" with others for stuff you have, and things you need?.. Or not?
Are you an isolated island, Roy? Not wanting or needing imports from any nation?.. Totally "independent"?..And self-sufficient in all?? Eh?

I said "homogenous", not " heterogenous"!... Know the difference.!

You may have lots of immigrants, but that certainly doesn't mean your population's racial make up is a confluence of many, right? ...E Pluribus Unum, is what we are!!.. Not you.!

Written by: RoyStone, 5 Mar 2013 1:06 AM
From: Australia
Then educate me, airgordo,
I have listed how the Dominican Republic "depends" on other countries. Tell me where it is independent.
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I TRIED to in good faith a long time ago, by providing with facts that you can't deny and can confirm as easy as doing a google search, however reality appeared and proved is a waste of time to try to do so, your ignorant and biased comments just prove over and over how some people write here the first thing that come to their mind , the latest been that bullsh!th that you just wrote on DOMINICAN INDEPENDENCE, a monument to stupidity given the fact that YOU ARE STILL Ruled by a woman with a crown...

"YOU ARE STILL Ruled by a woman with a crown... "

I don't understand what you mean, Airgordo. Do you mean THE Queen, or HIS queen. You know, the one that tells him what to do, or no pussy for a month?.. Eh?

QE2 does not rule Australia. She has no authority or mandate to do so, and never tries to. As the ultimate head-of-state, she has reserve powers which can only be exercised in the event of a constitutional crisis, to get democracy restored, as was done in 1975. Unlike the Dominican system, it works.
As far as my Dominican queen is concerned, yes, Ron, she has total and absolute power.

Shit! I know what you mean, Roy.! I got "domesticated" in my tenure as a husband. To this day, I fear and obey. ...and no more pussy, forever! ...tragic!

RoyStone, RonEvane

You guys are like the wimpy kid,

getting bullied by a skirt.

Shameful !!

Yes, I know, Rokete.! These are the abuses and "mental anguish", we guys go thru in relationships. The passive/aggressive tactics employed by mean beaches that never get reported, and we don't want to admit to!
There's a lot of spousal abuse we have to put up with in order to get what we want. ...namely, say "yes" to what Lola says, or else, no puss.. I mean what would you do? Force her into submission, or what?
Please tell us why you're not pupusa-whipped, and why, OK?... We could probably learn much from you.... If you're not in the same predicament we've been!

Stop the nonsense. If you're forefathers could hear this, they'd be annoyed with the childishness of the lot of you. Some of them died for this??

In many ways we're ALL dependent on someone - for something. What's independent is pride.

In as much as the RD is a tiny, burgeoning nation - who is growing from a school of hard knocks, yet growing none the less - I have always found that all Dominicans have retained their sense of pride for the self, and for their nation. Certainly politics & greed have impaired the speed of their economic growth, but these 2 issues are far away from what the substance of Independence Day truly is. Lets us NEVER conflate the two - nor consider that they are nterdependent.

LOOK: No Dominican ever needed ME to instill a sense of personal pride, or nationalism. That state seems to be in their DNA. It is standard issue at birth. Dominicans bend, but they've yet to snap. Break me off a slice of that.

Viva la Republica de mis hermanos !

Written by: RonEvane, 8 Mar 2013 11:40 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland

"YOU ARE STILL Ruled by a woman with a crown... "

I don't understand what you mean, Airgordo. Do you mean THE Queen, or HIS queen. You know, the one that tells him what to do, or no pussy for a month?.. Eh?
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hahahaha, i was talking of the woman Named as Elizabeth II, the other woman that you mention i guess we all have one that exercise the same power LOL

Written by: RoyStone, 9 Mar 2013 12:37 AM
From: Australia
QE2 does not rule Australia. She has no authority or mandate to do so, and never tries to. As the ultimate head-of-state, she has reserve powers which can only be exercised in the event of a constitutional crisis, to get democracy restored, as was done in 1975. Unlike the Dominican system, it works.
As far as my Dominican queen is concerned, yes, Ron, she has total and absolute power.
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Nice to see that it works for you and you are happy with that, IT DID NOT WORK FOR US we stopped bowing to a queen on 1863 and it cost a LOT OF BLOOD, go to the Monumento in santiago and learn about RESTAURACION de la republica... Is england lady still on AUstralian Notes? LOL

Written by: RoyStone, 9 Mar 2013 12:37 AM

As far as my Dominican queen is concerned, yes, Ron, she has total and absolute power.

-------Repeat the above 1,999 times and maybe you will believe it yourself.

The way you portray yourself here, you think your wife is also a second class citizen.

The way you portray yourself here, no woman in her right mind would give you the time of day unless desperate.

If in your personal life you say all the negative things you say about Dominicans and the DR, no self respecting Dominican would utter "hola" to you.

Maybe that'd the reason you sound so negative.

Nice fairy tale though.

I really can't fathom the source of his hatred and malice, TinyTim, specially when you consider the nature of his posts nowadays to what they were a couple of years ago when he signed in, which had far less venom. It really doesn't correspond with someone favored with the graces of a native "lady", but in fact, the opposite. Same goes for his partner in trolling, Scandiking. It could be the case, of course, that we're dealing with a couple of malagradecidos, which I wouldn't find surprising, since they wouldn't be the first (and regrettably, not the last) foreigners that would act like cats, as in, looking to other side before licking the hand that gave them hospitality in the first place.

Lautaro said

I really can't fathom the source of his hatred and malice, TinyTim, specially when you consider the nature of his posts nowadays to what they were a couple of years ago when he signed in, which had far less venom. It really doesn't correspond with someone favored with the graces of a native "lady", but in fact, the opposite. Same goes for his partner in trolling, Scandiking. It could be the case, of course, that we're dealing with a couple of malagradecidos, which I wouldn't find surprising, since they wouldn't be the first (and regrettably, not the last) foreigners that would act like cats, as in, looking to other side before licking the hand that gave them hospitality in the first place

--I think you are correct, it seems Roystone is a malagradecido

He thinks he is better than us

People like him are a joke

They go to our country, marry our women and still can't say anything positive about us

Then they wonder why the Dominican Elite can't stand tthem