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Santo Domingo.- New outlet tbnewswatch.com reports on the response by the hotel Bahia Principe, to previous information below:

“Management of a Dominican Republic resort, which is now the center of controversy after two local women were allegedly attacked while on vacation there, has broken its silence.”

Quoting a post on the travel website TripAdvisor.ca, “a person using the name Johanny Arvelo responded to a review posted by one of the women who says she was attacked by a bartender while vacationing at the Bahia Principe San Juan resort.”

The person claimed to be associated with the four-star resort and the review has since been removed. But before being removed, the response provided a different account of events.

“We do not have any record of this serious allegation against the hotel staff and the situation you described.”

File.- A Canadian news outlet reports Wednesday that two women from Thunder Bay, Canada, were allegedly “ roughed up” and shot at in January while vacationing at a resort in Bahia Principe, San Juan, northeastern Dominican Republic, a claim the major hotel denies.

The Chronicle-Journal reports that one of the women, Chelsey, 22, who didn’t want her last name used, “said she screamed for help around suppertime on Jan. 3 when a male bartender at the resort forced his way into their room and attempted to sexually assault her friend in the bathroom.”

“The women described a harrowing scene in which one of them was grabbed naked from the shower and thrown into the main room, while a man in his early 20s tried to have his way with her,” the outlet said.

But the hotel denies the women’s allegation. “What I am saying is that what they say happened is absolutely not true,” said Bahia Principe San Juan hotel manager Marta Cabrillo on Monday. The 900-room resort is about 80 kilometers east of Puerto Plata.

“Cabrillo’s denial is at odds with what the two women have related about an ordeal they say occurred at the seaside resort during the first of week of January,” The Chronicle-Journal reports.

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110 comment(s)
Written by: dreadlocks, 15 Jan 2014 10:55 AM
From: United States
i always thought that Thunder Bay was in Canada...
Written by: guillermone, 15 Jan 2014 11:06 AM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
"A U.S. news outlet reports Wednesday that two women from Thunder Bay, Michigan were allegedly “ roughed up” and shot at in January while vacationing at a resort in Bahia Principe, San Juan, northeastern DR"

I hate many of these DT articles.......after reading them, it leaves you with more questions than answers. And of course the accuracy is questionable. What do they mean by "shot at" ?
With regards to the victims place of origin, unless these girls live on a house boat, Thunder Bay is a bay in the U.S. state of Michigan on Lake Huron. It is not neither a town nor a city.

And ok........we understand the girls version but what about the bartender. And if they know it was him, where is he, where did he go and is he still employed at the resort? And if the hotel denies the allegations on what basis do they discredit the incident?
Written by: planner, 15 Jan 2014 11:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Their story is so full of holes it is amazing anyone will listen to them. Why are they being "anonymous"? Are they covering something up so their husbands / boyfriends / families don't find out what they did on vacation?

Shots fired and no police involvement? Loud banging on their hotel room door at 1 am and no one reported them to the front desk? (this is taken from the article in a Canadian publication)

NONE Of this info is verified! And they are anonymous while the hotel is vilified!!!!
Written by: guillermone, 15 Jan 2014 11:17 AM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum

Perhaps this might be a campaign to discredit Dominican tourism. You never know who is behind these incidents. The DR has been taking business away from many other Caribbean destinations and they don't like it. I am not saying this is necessarily the case, but it is something to think about. I have heard similar allegations made once before and it was later proven to be false.
Written by: TonyTunTun, 15 Jan 2014 11:20 AM
From: United States
This is CRAP!!! No witnesses apart from the two girls? DT should be more selective in the articles chosen. DT is doing more harm than good if it does not scrutinize the information before posting online.

Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 11:26 AM
From: Canada
i would just like to say.. That. Thunder bay Ontario is in CANADA not the US. And if you go onto Trip advisor and read all the NEGATIVE comments about this resort and all the Robbery.. i find it hard to believe that these girls would make something up. There is a Issue now from the GOV of CANADA to travel to the Dominican after this indecent.. and the RCMP are investigating this.
Written by: planner, 15 Jan 2014 11:55 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
IF you read Trip Adviser you will also find dozens of good and great reviews! I find it easy to believe these women made this up! I've seen too many instances of tourists making things up OR blowing things way out of proportion! I would love to see the RCMP really investigate this!
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 11:58 AM
From: Canada
if i could post the links up to what they described then i would but this site doesn't allow me to,

And about trip advisor, They only leave the good comments up because the resort can take down all the negative comments, just saying.
Written by: originalmrb, 15 Jan 2014 12:00 PM
From: Canada, Ontario
There are some real conflicting details here. The CBC is reporting these two women are from Thunder Bay Ontario. Thunder Bay Michigan is just a bay!

You can't fault DT for this. They're only relaying a story that they were given. They have to trust their sources. Here's the link:

cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/thunder-bay-women-allege-assault-at-caribbean-resort

Let's say - for discussion - that this actually happened: The real headline is: "Where the hell were the neighbouring guests when all this was going on? I safely stay at the Bahia Principe Ambar all the time and it's easy to hear sounds from adjoining rooms. Any independent witness here?

All I know is; if I heard a woman in distress, I'd have someone call the front desk, while I was going right through that woman's door in order to help. No one lays an unwanted hand on any woman - at any time - whether they're known to her or not. Not on my watch.
Written by: originalmrb, 15 Jan 2014 12:01 PM
From: Canada, Ontario


The RCMP has investigated. No details of that investigation have been released yet.
Written by: rokete, 15 Jan 2014 12:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 11:26 AM
From: Canada
i would just like to say.. That. Thunder bay Ontario is in CANADA not the US. And if you go onto Trip advisor and read all the NEGATIVE comments about this resort and all the Robbery.. i find it hard to believe that these girls would make something up. There is a Issue now from the GOV of CANADA to travel to the Dominican after this indecent.. and the RCMP are investigating this.
_______________

If there is an issue with the government of Canada deviating travel to Dominicana,

concerning the elleged incident, and due to the anonymous claimant,

it is doubtful that it really happened.

It provably has to do with the campaine of discredit and the Hispaniola Fusion Agenda.
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 12:11 PM
From: Canada
I guess we will all find out the truth soon enough.
Written by: originalmrb, 15 Jan 2014 12:15 PM
From: Canada, Ontario

I have submitted several reviews on Trip Advisor - so I know this much to be true:

Trip Advisor does not filter bad reviews based on whether they are complementary or not. Lots and lots of black eyes are dolled out each and every day on that site. Trip Advisor filters items such as vulgarities and potential legal infringements. And they advise the author when & why their review has been denied, so the author has a chance to do a re write or abstain. They even filter photos for content in case of patent infringements etc. They're very thorough. But they do not void a review just because someone said that they don't like their experiences. Both sides of the story are exactly what Trip Advisor is all about.

By the way; I visited Trip Advisor - as a result of this story - and I see plenty of bad reviews for this property, and none of them are filtered. And - no mention of the above story.

I'm not saying they're lying, but one would expect much more noise over this.
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 12:22 PM
From: Canada
ok now i would like to say.... I was on trip advisor the other day, with a few people mentioning comments about what had happened and now their taking down. Even a comment from a male who had ran in to see why they were screaming for help.. So who knows what to believe, i just hope everything is figured out.

Written by: planner, 15 Jan 2014 12:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
I cannot see this as a move to discredit tourism here. Why would the gov't be interested in doing that? There is nothing in it for them. Nope this is 2 women who got themselves into some kind of predicament and now they need to cover themselves with a "story".
Written by: bernies, 15 Jan 2014 12:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Juan Dolio
How can you get assaulted in a foreign country and then you go to make it public but you won't give out your name, that doesn't sounds right to me and I think that no news writers should published something without basics information. Why didn't these two girl report it to the police in that area or why it doesn't say that they reported to the hotel administration. Why will they open the door to two guys at 1am. Sorry but this sounds to me like they were flirting with the guys and things got out of hand when they got to the room after a night of drinking.

Happens all the time in the USA were athletes go out with girls or meet a girl at a bar, they get drunk go back to the guy room have intercourse and the next day the girl plays the card that she was raped because she was drunk. Sorry guys but this doesn't smell or sound right to me.

Now if the guys really did what the girls are saying then they should be prosecute it and in this country you go straight to jail for such thing.
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 12:34 PM
From: Canada
tbnewswatch.com/news/316653/Nightmare-vacation


tbnewswatch.com/news/316962/Resort-breaks-silence
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 12:43 PM
From: Canada
those are the links i have found from the city they are from, who knows what is real and whats made up, guess we will find out sooner or later.. or never?
Written by: planner, 15 Jan 2014 12:46 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
What bothers me is the Hotel is ripped apart by this and they get to be "anonymous" Once this is all investigated, if any part of this is a lie, then they should be prosecuted and made to reimburse the hotel for the damage to their reputation!!!!!
Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2014 1:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic, ****Raise your words, not your voice. Rain grows food, not thunder.****
Bunch of BS that's what it is. The women where probably drunk out of their minds, and when things got out of hand, made up this dubious story.
None of it makes sense.
Hotels usually have the "usual guests" wanting a free stay, and/or reimbursement of their stay, and they fabricate these incredible tales.
Meanwhile the DR gets a black eye.
Written by: DaveB, 15 Jan 2014 1:34 PM
From: United States
Are people with experience in the DR actually asking a stupid question like, "Why didn't they go to the police?" Of course you thick boys don't understand why the women don't want to completely identify themselves. I've seen enough comments from you boys down there to understanding some of you are more likely to be offenders than defenders. Bragging that you would rush out to investigate noises in the middle of the night at a hotel just proves that you have never stayed in a Dominican hotel.
Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2014 1:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic, ****Raise your words, not your voice. Rain grows food, not thunder.****
DaveB
Thankfully some of us haven't stayed, in the kind of hotels that by your experience, you negatively describe as a "Dominican Hotel", like the ones in Boca Chica, or some other rat hole.
Written by: Kelly, 15 Jan 2014 1:47 PM
From: Canada
I read the story of the so called events these two YOUNG women reported . I was not there but in my opinion it's all a bunch of bologna. This story is full of holes its ridiculous. What really sealed the deal for me was the fact that after they were supposedly raped and shot at from some mystery man below their room they continued to stay at this resort for several day until they got a flight home. lol excuse me but if someone "raped" me, "shot at me" at some resort I would not continue to bed down there for several days and I don't care who was supposedly protecting me. In addition one girl claimed as the other was being raped in the bathroom one of the intruders stood watch over her but yet she managed to go out to the balcony and yell for help? I highly doubt it. Please give me a break.
Written by: RandomFacts, 15 Jan 2014 2:30 PM
From: Canada
tbnewswatch.com/opinion/316828/LETTER-Travellers%27-horror-story-nothing-new


look at the letters that have been coming in to this site, little crazy to hear all of the same stories from different people tho..

the whole thing just seems sketchy
Written by: TonyTunTun, 15 Jan 2014 2:36 PM
From: United States
The hotel should sue the girls and be reimbursed for defamation. If I remember correctly, it was a Canadian that sued the DR because it rained every day of his vacation.
Written by: HateitorLOVEIT, 15 Jan 2014 2:40 PM
From: United States, Washington, DC
Raped... AAaaaahhhh no.. Letting a situation go to far...yes! those hotels are full of skanky pankies... looking for a good time.. and a good time is different in the DR compared to Thunder bay.. It amazes me that many people don't investigate anything where they're going.. All they see is what those places want you to see in the net and brochures... I beat that if many tourist looked at deltraselrumors.. they would not even go to the dr!
Written by: Spimx, 15 Jan 2014 3:26 PM
From: Canada
Thunder Bay is a town in ontario, shore of Huron lake
Written by: guillermone, 15 Jan 2014 4:59 PM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
The two friends, who wish to remain anonymous, booked the vacation to Bahia Principe San Juan to relax and get away from school and work for awhile.

"We just wanted to get away from the cold weather," one of the women said.

On their first night at the resort, the women say they met a friendly bartender who offered to take the two around town on his motorcycle. They refused, being warned by other guests not to venture outside of the four-star resort.
Written by: TonyTunTun, 15 Jan 2014 5:10 PM
From: United States
I think the DR should do the same. Bribe two Canadian girls and have them go to the other caribbean islands and come back to Canada and hold a press conference making up a story of how they were raped by the hotel staff while remaining anonymous.
Written by: PuntaCanaMike, 15 Jan 2014 5:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
This sounds alot like the 2 Canadian "boys" who ended up in jail for pounding the crap out of another Canadian at a resort. What came out in the media was totally manipulated and poorly investigated. Made "the boys" look like the victims.

As per usual...way too many questions not being answered and too many irregularities.

BTW..Thunder Bay Ontario is at the head of Lake Superior and is the a city of just over 100,000 people. tose geographically challenged should save their comments prior to assuming it is in the US.
Written by: VeronicaDR, 15 Jan 2014 7:35 PM
From: United States
Sad to see all you people saying nothing happened when you were not even there. Dominican men act like this all the time.Reading all the other stories about this resort makes it far more credible. If nothing is done about it until someone is raped or even killed the people discrediting all of these stories should feel very good about themselves. I have seen first hand how hotel staff in some of these hotels is quite forceful with the tourists thinking they can get away with whatever they please and just deny it later. Our police force is a complete joke in 99% of all cases.

So discredit all you want these cases need to be investigated properly and not by our corrupt and inept police.

When people no longer want to visit our country and don't want any of our people or goods in their country we will end up like Haiti.
Written by: rokete, 15 Jan 2014 7:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Written by: VeronicaDR, 15 Jan 2014 7:35 PM
From: United States

When people no longer want to visit our country and don't want any of our people or goods in their country we will end up like Haiti.
____________

No, no, no, no.

Please not like Haiti.

Not even Africans want to be like Haiti !!!

Let's have the SIN (Sevicio de Inteligencia Nacional) investigate.

Let us expedite this investigation !!!!!

!!!! PRONTO !!!!

Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2014 8:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, ****Raise your words, not your voice. Rain grows food, not thunder.****
VeronicaDR
Good to hear the women's POV, but let me relate a story to you:
I was having dinner at a all inclusive top rated hotel in DR, together with two US engineers and one DR government technician, talking mainly business.
In all inclusive hotels, cheap liquor is free, and the tourists drink like it was no tomorrow, so we where quietly having our dinner, minding our own business, when this very inebriated lady came over, and asked us some very pointed questions, as to which one of us was "going to give her a good time". The three of us where dumbfounded and surprised by the come on, and I proceeded to ask her to go back to her table and not bother us. She seemed offended and rejected, and went wobbly back to her table, stirring up trouble, where we could see her husband and whole family.
Written by: generoso, 15 Jan 2014 8:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, ****Raise your words, not your voice. Rain grows food, not thunder.****
Con't 2

A few minutes later, an irate husband stood at my back, voicing all kinds of curses and epithets at us, and urging for a fight. I obliged just as a chair was flying in my direction.
What happened next, was a melee and rumble between us, and about 7 other family members, defending her "honor".
The police was called, and they came imposed order, and no charges where filed. The hotel lost some broken chairs and dishes.

Just saying.......................
Written by: rokete, 15 Jan 2014 8:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Ok.

Generoso,

I can see clearly now based on your inuendo.

I ha've been having thoughts about this situation in the hotel,

with the confusing story about the Canadian incognito girls.


Maybe the girls didn't get their favorite cunnilingus session.

They were provably upset at the bar tender,

and wanted revenge for the non delivered, savory hanky panky dream vacation.

Canadians are pretty girls,

I wouldn't let myself be tongue tied in the presence of female beauty.

LOL

Still a proper investigation is called for.
Written by: dreadlocks, 15 Jan 2014 8:22 PM
From: United States
says Mr MBA, rokete

Not even Africans want to be like Haiti !!!

not even Africans? you think you are better than Nelson Mandela was?
Written by: rokete, 15 Jan 2014 8:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

No dreadlocks,

I don't think. I know.

Who is Nelson Mandela ???

Written by: dreadlocks, 15 Jan 2014 8:31 PM
From: United States
was. he died.

is there luz in your cave?
Written by: dreadlocks, 15 Jan 2014 8:31 PM
From: United States
was. he died.

is there luz in your cave?
Written by: rokete, 15 Jan 2014 8:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Ok

dreadlocks...

I googled it.

Nelson Mandela is Dead.

I am alive.

Without a doubt. YES !!!

The answer is obvious.
Written by: curios1, 15 Jan 2014 9:26 PM
From: United States, right where im standin
there is only one thing to do, START A FORUM. so this can be thoroughly discussed, and then we can get to the bottom of this.
Written by: danny00, 15 Jan 2014 10:06 PM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
The Same Sh----happen in Puerto Plata not only are the Local Dominicans Stupid but also Horny....sure they wish they had a White Women (Guillermone Dream)... but they need to understand that they are Black as the Ace of Spades and not all women want a guy that is Stupid, short hair, (no----er hair)...., cheap bastards, they buy their clothing and shoes at the local flea market....they love to piss in the streets on the nearest tree ( even though their is a bathroom close)....u can go up to 161st on any given day u can find Guillermone doing his thing behind one big tree.....don't let a Dominican use your bath room he's not going to pick-Up the toilet seat when he takes his piss and to top this off they Dont flush the toilet after they go. ( think they like the smell )., their Caca Salami has this smell.
Written by: yumnuk3, 15 Jan 2014 10:42 PM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Once again, Veronica's brain waves fall a little short of the beach.
Written by: guillermone, 15 Jan 2014 11:14 PM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
Written by: danny00, 15 Jan 2014 10:06 PM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
The Same Sh----happen in Puerto Plata not only are the Local Dominicans Stupid but also Horny....sure they wish they had a White Women (Guillermone Dream)

danny00 Graj00 double zero dumb dumb............I am Cibaeño and I don't need any "white women." We have the best selection of females in the Dominican Republic and have enjoyed the privilege of their company. I don't need to dream because my dreams have already come true.

It is you who has the Nightmare of waking up everyday with a different big fat Haitian mama on your bedside blowing morning breath over your shoulder while she looks at you with eye boogers of desire, and them hairy-onion smelly arm pits, along with her rotten cod fish in the valley demanding that you get down and give her a good licking.
Written by: danny00, 16 Jan 2014 5:49 AM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
Negative Guillermone before I go to sleep I count the money I made that day. When I get up I go back and count the rest of the money.....u need to understand over here in Florida last year we Receive over 100 Million tourists from all over the world except Haiti and the Dominican Republic (thank God)..this past Xmas we had the best holiday ever counting tourists and the amount of Money they spent.....if u have any problems with this post u can go on google check the keys chamber of commerce web site.......see we don't have a Black and Tan color problem over here we all get along.....black and white no problem like u guys have in the DR ....we don't wear white sheets and lynch people over here....why don't u take a trip down here I know the problem for u is that our streets are clean and our waters are crystal clear... and it's peaceful if u think that theirs even a small that u just might enjoy this let me know U have a free fishing trip with me.
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 7:20 AM
From: United States
rokete, why do i really believe that you have no idea of who Nelson Mandela was?
Written by: guillermone, 16 Jan 2014 9:46 AM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
Written by: danny00, 16 Jan 2014 5:49 AM
From: United States, Old Westbury Long Island
Negative Guillermone before I go to sleep I count the money I made that day. When I get up I go back and count the rest of the money.....u need to understand over here in Florida last year we Receive over 100 Million tourists from all over the world.

danny00 Dumb Dumb double zero Loco-

You are out of whack...........Now I know you are KooKoo............
What does counting money have anything to do with you waking up every morning with a fat sweaty Haitian Mama that has onion smelly arm pits ?

And what does the "white women" fantasy has anything to do with tourism in Florida?
And by the way North Central Florida where the vast majority of the tourism is generated has little to nothing to do with tourism in the keys.
Written by: guillermone, 16 Jan 2014 9:54 AM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
"...see we don't have a Black and Tan color problem over here we all get along.....black and white no problem like u guys have in the DR ....we don't wear white sheets and lynch people over here..."


There is NO race problems in the DR.........but we do have a BIG Haitian problem with neighbors that coincidentally happened to be homogenous black. But the problem is not because of color it is because of the heavy burden that is impose upon the DR by a nation of impoverished people.
Written by: RealisticLogic, 16 Jan 2014 10:28 AM
From: United States
Why the hell are canadians even travelling to that cesspool ?
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 11:33 AM
From: United States
says Logic

Written by: RealisticLogic, 16 Jan 2014 10:28 AM
From: United States
Why the hell are canadians even travelling to that cesspool ?

sounds like a guy who found out that Fausto the motoconcho was banging his novia.
Written by: Grosero, 16 Jan 2014 11:55 AM
From: United States
another reason the DR is not on my list of places to go anymore...
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 12:02 PM
From: United States
says Grosero

Written by: Grosero, 16 Jan 2014 11:55 AM
From: United States
another reason the DR is not on my list of places to go anymore...

good. go somewhere else. or, better yet, stay home.

the last thing this country needs is people who make judgements against it in a circumstance where the accusations are almost certain to be fictitious.
Written by: Tomas, 16 Jan 2014 1:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Well, all I know is Thunder Bay is an amalgamation of
2 big towns to form the city on the North coast of Lake Superior.
Also we could not stay in the casino 10 miles west of Rio San Juan
because of the ongoing problem with their septic system.
It was a very strong sewage smell about 2 years ago.
Then it was closed for about 6 months to a year.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 8:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 7:20 AM
From: United States
rokete, why do i really believe that you have no idea of who Nelson Mandela was?
__

Dreadlocks I know who he was.

I admire his courage, and zeal.

However, he was not as important to me, as he was to you.

I see South Africa beyond race, blackness, and apartheid.


There are other South African issues, beyond racial,

that Madela did not contribute to improve.


1) Unemployment at about 25%.

There's even estimates to be as high as 50% in some areas,

the lack of jobs is a recurrent concern.


2) A high level of income inequality is another problem.

The average income of blacks in the country is one tenth-to-one fifth of that of whites.


3) The country has been described to be, as having a first world financial market,

within a third world economic system.


4) Racial inequalities is still a dominating factor in South Africa,

even after apartheid and beyond Mandela.
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 8:49 PM
From: United States
says rokete

I see South Africa beyond race, blackness, and apartheid.

then i should not be discussing it with you. anyone who makes a remark like that needs help.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 8:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Back to the subject at hand.

I remember a German girl that hanged to my neck kissing me in Cabarete,

when I was in my 20's.

My father and a friend who was a restaurant owner there, were making fun of me,

due to the over enthusiastic girl,

wanting to do the local motion with me in the beach.

She was pissed because I showed no interest.

She was pretty but, the AIDS epidemic was really scary in the 80's.

It still is !!

The girls of Thunder Bay were probably pissed at the bartender, as the German girl was with me.

LOL
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 8:49 PM
From: United States
says rokete

I see South Africa beyond race, blackness, and apartheid.

then i should not be discussing it with you. anyone who makes a remark like that needs help.
________


Dreadlocks...

You are the person in reality, that needs help

Because your narrow racial scope, does not permit you to see beyond your blackness.

The world is a RAINBOW of races and colors !!!!
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks....

About South Africa thanks to Mandela's policies..

The economy is stagnant, despite some progress. South Africa's economy has grown only moderately since the end of apartheid, when it should have expanded dramatically. The result has been persistent, massive unemployment. The main obstacles to success have been restrictive labor laws passed at the behest of the trade unions, and "black economic empowerment" laws that carve out equity stakes in large companies for neophyte black owners (in practice, members of the ruling party) and therefore scare away foreign direct investment.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks ....

About South Africa under Mandela's tutelage.

HIV/Aids has devastated the population. The end of apartheid coincided with the arrival of HIV/Aids, which Mandela did little to fight--a fact he acknowledged after he left office. His successor, Thabo Mbeki, allowed hundreds of thousands to die while his government pursued a quack theory that the disease was not caused by a virus and could be cured by traditional African remedies. The country has recently done a better job fighting HIV/Aids, but its young adults--its most hopeful and productive cohort--have been utterly decimated.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks ....

After apartheic under Mandela's tutelage.

Crime is a major challenge. The chaos of South Africa's political transition, and the sheer incompetence of a police force that previously had to do little but keep blacks out of white areas, led to a massive crime wave. In turn, that led to an ongoing exodus of skilled professionals. Though there has been some progress in improving public safety, there is a lack of political will to tackle it, especially since official corruption is rampant. Crime is still the country's most visible problem, and there is no South African whose life has not been affected by it.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:47 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks....

Under Mandela's tutelage of South Africa.

Inequality is worse--and economic, not racial. The most hopeful social development in South Africa has been the emergence of a black middle class. However, the country is now divided between a multiracial, consumerist elite on the one hand, and a restive black underclass on the other. Affirmative action policies have helped some blacks advance but have harmed many others indirectly, as qualified white and mixed-race South Africans have been pushed out of the public services, upon which poor blacks depend disproportionately.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks ....

If you want more let me know.

I have more where that came from.

Your hero's uniform is not as shiny and clean as you think.


In my view Dreadlocks,

you are another one of those ultra racist blacks that believe in the:

!!!! IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE PEOPLE ATTITUDE !!!
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
It’s open season on white people
Posted on September 10, 2013

Another day, another racist black person attacking a white person…..

See here:

An attacker pummeled a bus passenger so hard he smashed the bones in his face after calling the victim a “cracker” in Manhattan – marking the second time in two days that people appeared to be randomly targeted in racial tirades against white people, authorities said.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
In the latest incident, the suspect passed a 31-year-old rider on the M60 bus riding through Harlem, on West 127th Street, between Amsterdam Avenue and Morningside Drive, around 2:45 p.m., Friday, when he shouted the racial slur and punched the victim in the face, breaking his nose and eye socket, cops said.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 9:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
The victim was treated for facial fractures at New York Presbyterian Hospital and released, police said.

The incident occurred as authorities reported that Jeffrey Babbitt, 62, fell into a coma after being punched and knocked to the ground in Union Square Park on Wednesday. He was taken off life support and died Monday, sources said.
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 16 Jan 2014 10:04 PM
From: United States
rokete

I see South Africa beyond race, blackness, and apartheid

Tell that to all those families whose loved ones died.

You want to educate someone. Talk about delusional. Slavery wasn't that bad right rockhead. Trujillo education at its finest
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks.....

This is for you after apartheid and Nelson Mandela in South Africa.

White Genocide in South Africa
TV Alberts
October 2013

I would kindly like to inform you about the ongoing white genocide in the Republic of South-Africa. Since 1994, the end of the so-called Apartheid, whites people, especially white farmers, have been subject to extremely brutal and racist murders. About 50 people on average are murdered in South-Africa per day, of which at least 20 of them are whites(95+ % black on white murder rate). Please take into consideration that white people make up only 9% (4 500 000) of the demographics in South-Africa and therefore the white murder rate in South-Africa is quite significant.
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 16 Jan 2014 10:11 PM
From: United States
Rockethead,

Playing the race card huh. If you worked in finance as you claim im sure you experienced racism on wall st. If you say no then you were in the mailroom and not on the floor.
Hiv/aids decimated most of the world. Crime is a global problem end of apartheid has nothing to do with it. Shame on you.
In your mind apartheid was a good thing. That explains why you support the ruling.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))


Dreadlocks.....

Boere genocide in South Africa sounds familia ???

Where black racists are killing whites with impunity !!!

genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
The government is obviously turning a blind eye on these statistics as no action plan has yet been establishes to reduce the white murder numbers. In fact, some political leaders encourages black South-Africans to go out and kill whites. (President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, sings a song about killing whites.

youtube.com/watch?v=cHLTKZ05zM4

south-africa-the-real-issues.org/Home/SouthAfricaZumasingsofmurderingwhites.aspx#.UmrINcVhwU4
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks......

Since like numbers here is more on the genocide of whites in South Africa after Apartheid.

Since 1994, more than 70000 (and counting) white South Africans have been murdered of which more than 4000 were commercial farmers. Exact figures are very hard to come by as the South African police fail to report most of the murders that take place. These numbers are thus conservatively estimated.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
As the white population of South Africa was 4 434 697 according to the official state census in 1996, and more than 400 000 white South Africans have left the country, it could be estimated that nearly 2% of white South Africans have been murdered in the 18 years of democracy. Compare that to the 7518 black people that were murdered by the Apartheid government, which comes to a percentage of 0.02% of the black population. (And no, you can't compare people killed by the security forces with people killed by civilians, but I'm sure that if you look up white on black civilian murders during Apartheid, it would still be very low indeed.)
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Deadlocks and Ignoranteibilis......


7518 blacks were murder in apartheid's government.

70,000+ whites genocide murders after apartheid

The difference exceeding of whites murders is over 62,482 and counting.


Let me know if you want to know more about the aftermath of apartheid,

in South Africa and the genocide of the whites there,

Why there is nothing to celebrate after the apartheid or Nelson Mandela.

genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

dailymotion.com/video/xgbcb2_white-genocide-in-south-africa_news)

You are a couple of black racist,

who need some help and more education for both of you.

!!!! Dudes !!!!!
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 10:52 PM
From: United States
rokete, if you were not such a dumb, semi literate fool, i would debate you on this. however, my parents would turn in their graves if they knew that i had sunk so low.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 10:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks...

This South Africa after Apartheid.

What makes matters even worse, is that many black take great pride in killing whites. Some of them would openly admit their racist intentions on national television, while others make banners with hate speech written all over it.
Some even write Facebook posts filled with hatered and racism
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 11:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks...

You cannot debate anything about South Africa,.

because you have a narrow black hole to look from, the realities of South Africa.

And it would show that you are ab black racist,

and more mentally challenged that you already are.
Written by: rokete, 16 Jan 2014 11:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Josean ........

Make sure you read this about the aftermath of apartheid in South Africa.

Since you have been making so many comparisons to Apartheid.

Because, this is not going to to be the result of the Dominican Republic,

as long as their are Dominicans like me.

!!!! IRREVOCABLE !!!!!



Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 11:21 PM
From: United States
you are a really dumb guy for someone who claims to have seen the inside of a schoolroom. there is a big difference between wanton criminal violence, and A GOVERNMENT POLICY.

i feel sorry for you. get a refund from your high school for your 'education"
Written by: rokete, 17 Jan 2014 12:12 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks......

All these murders and genocide of whites in South Africa,

has the black South African extra official government approval.

Because nothing significant is being done about it.

While the government looks the other way,

the whites are being murdered in leaps and bounds since the end of Apartheid in 1994.

The south African government is guilty of complicity.

it does not need to be official, it already has their unofficial approval.

Due to negligence and disinterest.
Written by: rokete, 17 Jan 2014 12:13 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Dreadlocks....

In your post.

Are you referring to the elderly Dominican couple,

murdered by the Haitians in Neiva, Dominican Republic ???

Are you saying they were slain by order of the Martelly's government,

to stir things up trouble, create hate and uprising.



You are the one lacking in education and insight.

Education comes from the Latin word EDUCO;

meaning to lead out, or to draw out from within.

I have more education than you claim to have.

I am my own man that does not follow a crowd.

!!! I (DRAW OUT FROM WITHIN) MY WISDOM AND SUPERIOR CAPABILITIES !!!!

And it is obvious by now, that you and I collide because it is evident that,

I am a leader with initiative (to lead out),

and you are a follower.
Written by: rokete, 17 Jan 2014 1:46 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: dreadlocks, 16 Jan 2014 11:21 PM
From: United States
there is a big difference between wanton criminal violence, and A GOVERNMENT POLICY
_______

Dreadlocks ....

Here is president Jacob Zuma of South Africa,

inciting troops and Siging to: "KILL THE WHITES"

youtube.com/watch?v=cHLTKZ05zM4

Do you want the South African government policy of white genocide,

to be more official than that ???

+++


Here is your hero Nelson Mandela, participant of the singing: "KILL THE WHITES".

youtube.com/watch?v=NKiePbTcAfY


Check out racism of whites, and reverse discrimination of whites in South Africa.

youtube.com/watch?v=jj84Sw1x2po

You need helpand education in the realities of South Africa today, it is no better than Apartheid.

Do you really think South Africa is better before or after apartheid ???

Your answer, will give me further insight into your wisdom,

your lack of it, and your level of cruelty.

Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 17 Jan 2014 5:11 AM
From: United States
7518 blacks were murder in apartheid's government.

70,000+ whites genocide murders after apartheid


I want to see one of your ultra-dominican nationalist defend these numbers pulled out of your rectum. Atabey, Gui, General?

Rockforahead,

Foreigners read these post. I hope your countrymen will correct you so the world can see your idiotic postings isn't representative of educated Dominicans.
Trujillo education at its best.
Written by: rokete, 17 Jan 2014 11:31 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Ignoransifilis........

My countrymen won't need to correct me.

The genocide of whites in South Africa by black racists,

is all over the internet, and no one doing anything about it.

Get yourself informed.

You give honor to your name IGNORANTE !!!

The links to these numbers of white South Africans are there, look them up,

and enlighten your black racist ignorant persona.



You probably got your education from Christophe and Dessaliness,

who killed on a genocide attempt of 10,000 white Dominicans in the year 1805.

You are a well educated Haitian racist black.

The irony intended.
Written by: RandomFacts, 17 Jan 2014 11:45 AM
From: Canada
anything new on this story yet?
Written by: xwill7, 17 Jan 2014 11:51 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Those girls must have had too much to drink. Just like danny00 likes his women to be... drunk
Written by: curios1, 17 Jan 2014 8:58 PM
From: United States, right where im standin
forum !
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 18 Jan 2014 12:31 PM
From: United States
rockhead,

I'm a racist black because I hate all races equally. Especially my wide nose big lips dark skin and mandingo penis. Unlike you I don't minimize the Millions of Africans and Natives that were massacred/enslaved all in the name of the catholic church and gold. I don't romanticize slavery. I wasn't educated to believe the low lives of Europe that came to this part of the world were somehow enlightened married the natives and ate from the same table as the slaves. LOL.

Rockforahead,

White Afrikaners are preparing for a race war. Why don't you go join them. I see where you got your information from. lol. You should join those types of organizations.
Written by: Tomas, 18 Jan 2014 7:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
The more I read these replies, the more I am sure
that I picked the wrong planet to be born on!
Oh well, we can try & make the best of it!
Written by: curios1, 18 Jan 2014 9:25 PM
From: United States, right where im standin
a forum ?
Written by: harleyhoney1, 22 Jan 2014 1:42 PM
From: Canada
In my opinion sounds like these girls got boracho (drunk), egged someone on, then when they found themselves in too deep they cried rape. I have been to Rio San Juan, and have stayed in Cabarete 8 times, this March it will be the 9th. I know lots of people here, good people, we love and respect each other, I do not stay in all inclusives, I rent condo on the beach my husband and I. We have never been harassed or felt in danger in any way, we rent a motorcycle, we go out at night, we walk the beach, and always feel safe. People generally who get in trouble in these places, DR, Mexico, etc, usually have gotten there by their own stupidity, lack of respect, and drunkenness, buying drugs, etc. I do not feel sorry for these types at all, what pisses me off is them gaining headlines with lies because they screwed up.
Written by: Tomas, 22 Jan 2014 1:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Harleyhoney, you are correct in everything you say.
These girls? should be charged!
I'm sure you know you can rent a Harley in Sosua?
By the way. it's 83 & not a cloud in sight in Cabrera.
Written by: harleyhoney1, 22 Jan 2014 2:30 PM
From: Canada
Hola Thomas. I was told this by a friend of mine, but could not find the place. Could you let me know on here. By the way it is minus 17 Celcius here in Alberta…lol! I love Cabarete, and plan on moving there very soon, want to buy a condo.
Last year when we were in Cabarete we stayed at Orilla Del Mar, this year Cabarete East, and we rented a motorcycle off of a guy outside of Janet's,,,it was an apache, was fun, but a harley would be very nice. We have a 2009 Streetglide here in Canada, and we do a lot of travelling in the US mostly, we did 20,000 Kilometers last year, 15K the year before.
Written by: harleyhoney1, 22 Jan 2014 3:16 PM
From: Canada
Danny00 they say experience is the better teacher. So you say Dominican men's packages smell like ka ka,,,,is this from personal experience?….lol! I think you are ignorant. I have many Dominican friends, male and female, I am married so have never experience them as lovers, but as friends,, close friends, they are very clean,, and very good looking, both sexes.
We also sponsor a friends daughter to go to school, and it is a joyous thing to be doing, helping this family. I am honored this year to be asked to be her godmother.
Danny00 your posts show your lack of character and class. I do not care what color you are, your sole is tarnished black.
Written by: dreadlocks, 22 Jan 2014 7:57 PM
From: United States
says Harleyhoney

Danny00 your posts show your lack of character and class. I do not care what color you are, your sole is tarnished black.

so why does it have to be black if it is tarnished? is that the color of damaged goods? you know, like the "black sheep of the family'.
Written by: curios1, 22 Jan 2014 9:12 PM
From: United States, right where im standin
hhhhmmmmmm !
Written by: harleyhoney1, 23 Jan 2014 4:51 PM
From: Canada
Dreadlocks...know it means tarnished black, like soot. I have no problem in guiding ignorant or stupid people, but I will not waste my time arguing with them or besting them, because when you best a fool, one has gotten no where.
Written by: dreadlocks, 23 Jan 2014 8:47 PM
From: United States
well, Harleyhoney, my observation is simply based on the fact that there are people in this world who associate black with bad. the guy in the black hat is the movie villain. the guy on the white horse is the savior. the black sheep of the family is the guy gone bad. when you go wrong in certain fields, you get blacklisted. get the point? it affects us differently, since i am a black man.
Written by: rokete, 23 Jan 2014 10:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Edito
Written by: harleyhoney1, 24 Jan 2014 8:28 PM
From: Canada
Well I apologise Dreadlocks, I go on forums and sometimes a person makes a post like yours to incite. Sorry If I took it wrong, looks like I did. I know what you mean about stereotyping, and hate that shit, and funny it is still going on even with newer generations...lol! I was not associating the "tarnished black ", with people, but as I said, black as in soot, burnt!!!

Thomas if you know the name of the place in Sosua that rents harley's let me know...or anyone who does.
Written by: dreadlocks, 24 Jan 2014 10:05 PM
From: United States
harleyhoney, i see that you just don't get it. i understand, and i am not angry with you. i do not post to incite. i post to shed light on things. however, we are products of our socialization; nothing more, nothing less. i can't fault you if you were raised to believe that black is bad.
Written by: harleyhoney1, 25 Jan 2014 11:22 AM
From: Canada
Actually Dreadlocks I do get it, maybe you don't. I do not associate black with bad, and do not like words put in my mouth, I am quite capable of doing that myself. People think we are bad because we wear black leathers, and ride a harley...lol...who gives a shit, let them think what they want, they are missing out on a lot by being so close minded etc.
Written by: cdnjoe4u, 25 Jan 2014 12:18 PM
From: Canada

Sad for all involved
Written by: Tomas, 25 Jan 2014 4:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
Harleyhoney, I forget his name, but he's a short guy from Quebec
that owns the place. It's on the north side of Hwy 5. Across the
street from the second biggest grocery in Sosua.
I am probably going there next week. I'll get his name & number for you.
When are you planning your next trip down here?
Tom.
Written by: harleyhoney1, 26 Jan 2014 12:06 PM
From: Canada
Buenos Dias Tom, do you mean the Supermarcado? I know the one, have been there many times. We will be there March 4. I appreciate what you are doing, thank you very much.

HH.
Written by: Tomas, 26 Jan 2014 7:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Cabrera
No, the other one, half a click east.
Written by: harleyhoney1, 26 Jan 2014 8:30 PM
From: Canada
Okay Tom will wait for you to get his name and number. Thanks.
Written by: chelsealauraa, 21 Mar 2014 7:02 PM
From: Canada
I think its important to remember wherever you go you need to be so careful. I feel as though this "statement" that was found on trip advisor could easily be made up. There was clearly something that occurred. Canada had put out an advisory stating to be careful when visiting the Dominican Republic. Especially as two young women wherever you go you need to be constantly aware, and from the story I heard they did the right things by declining the invitation to go off the resort, unfortunately the situation had to become more fearful when they allegedly were attacked. I am traveling this summer to an all inclusive and my guard will be up!
Written by: rokete, 22 Mar 2014 1:33 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

ignorante ...

and this goes for you too josehaitiano and dreadlocks !!!


prove me wrong !!

if you cannot prove me wrong !!

then hold your peace !!

not only 90%, but (( more )) than 90% of dominican aprove the tc rule !!!

prove me wrong, this is your chance of a lifetime !!!

if you cannot prove me wrong, you are all bull shit artist !!

lots of talk and no proof !!

btw: none of those you mentioned are important, 90%+ dominicans is !!


irrevocable and definitive since 1929, to infinity and beyond !!
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 22 Mar 2014 9:27 AM
From: United States
You have some serious mental issue rockhead.
Written by: rokete, 22 Mar 2014 11:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

As always

Since you cannot prove me wrong, you are all bull shit artist !!

lots of talk and no proof !!
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