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Dajabón, Dominican Republic.- Dominican military is under heightened alert along the border with the Haiti, where protesters demand drinking water, electricity and other services in the town of Ouanaminthe since Sunday, EFE reports.

Panicked Dajabon residents report of hearing explosions on the Haitian side, at night and early morning.

An Immigration Agency source told Efe that its inspectors have joined army troops on the patrols to prevent the entry of undocumented Haitians into Dominican territory, noting that they take advantage of the turmoil to sneak across the border.

Immigration and the Army meanwhile announced heightened security along the border as residents, community groups and farmers in the area say the traffic of undocumented Haitians has increased in recent days.

According to a military source many Haitians are using the mountains to cross the border and reach the city of Santiago –the country’s second biggest city- their main destination.

The increased entry of undocumented foreigners has prompted Immigration and the military to conduct sweeps in wooded areas and install checkpoints on many roads in search of illegal immigrants.

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118 comment(s)
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 7:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
In a microscosm the events in Ouanaminthe, reflect the pulse of the unrest going on throughout Haiti.
When the Haitian residents needed water, they cross the border to the DR and take it, when they need a food and temporary work, they cross the border and get it.
Because of recent events, police and military control of the border, has been beefed up and there is a higher degree of control and surveillance, so that adds pressure to the Haitian boiling pot.
The glass is full and spilling on the DR side, and Dominicans can not continue to absorb more Haitians, provide free services for them, and act as the haitian escape valve, getting paid in international condemnation, insults, recrimination and threats.
The DR is not the solution to Haitian problems. Haiti's problems must be dealt by the colonial powers, and international organizations. The DR has their hands full and blistering.
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 24 Jan 2014 7:58 AM
From: United States
There you go again. Next youll say when they're hungry haitians kidnap dominican kids/women and eat them.
If youre as connected as you claim wouldn't be hard to find out who's really behind this and why.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 8:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Ignoramus
There YOU go again. Fault finding and blaming others is a peculiar and ingrained Haitian trait.
Until Haitians start being responsible and admitting their internal problems, they will persist.
Instead of being quick on the draw, and start the blame game, plus the race card, why don't you Hate-tians stop being in denial, and admit your failures as a nation, and in choosing your leaders, and start a real revolution, that frees your people, and not further enslaves them (restavek) or pushes them out of Haiti, in desperation, to escape the misery, fostered by generations of blaming others.
Written by: jasfalon, 24 Jan 2014 8:38 AM
From: United States

Haiti has had the same problem as all other countries in the same situation - scumbag ruling elite, military, and police.

RD is in the same situation. And look at all the RD people fleeing to Puerto Rico - illegals, same as some Haitians are in RD.

Both countries are doomed!
Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 24 Jan 2014 9:05 AM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NOR FORSAKEN!
RD is in the same situation. And look at all the RD people fleeing to Puerto Rico - illegals, same as some Haitians are in RD.

Both countries are doomed!


Generoso,

not only they are denial, but they label the D.R. as being in the same codition as Hate-tee. SMH.
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 9:28 AM
From: Haiti
@Generoso a idiot with no education just like you talking with a animal won't never understand always find someone to blame
Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 9:30 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
"not only they are denial, but they label the D.R. as being in the same codition as Hate-tee. SMH."

It might not be in the same condition, but the DR has the potential to end up in a similar situation. If there's something that I have learned by studying the history of this island, is to NEVER ask how the situation could get worse. I asked myself the question back in 2004, before the latest exodus began, and there isn't a day in which I haven't regretted the curiosity.

Moreover, even people like Bill Gates doubt that Haiti will ever have the chance to recover, when he says (on his latest letter): "A few countries will be held back by war, politics (North Korea, barring a big change there), or geography (landlocked nations in central Africa). And inequality will still be a problem: There will be poor people in every region. (cont...)
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 9:33 AM
From: Haiti
Many Dominican don't even know they history ( I'm not black I'm Dominican) but Dominican not a race dummy
Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 9:34 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
(cont...)

"But most of them will live in countries that are self-sufficient. Every nation in South America, Asia, and Central America (with the possible exception of Haiti), and most in coastal Africa, will have joined the ranks of today’s middle-income nations. More than 70 percent of countries will have a higher per-person income than China does today. Nearly 90 percent will have a higher income than India does today."

Source: annualletter.gatesfoundation.org/#section=myth-one

Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 9:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Lautaro
Oh boy, you just opened a can of worms. Now the Haitian hordes will get on Bill Gates case, and ask for boycott of his products, accuse him of racial discrimination, insult him, spread that he is a masisi, and threaten to use voo doo on him.
Written by: Atabey, 24 Jan 2014 9:41 AM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--


Has anyone found evidence to support the statement that Dominicans flee their country and put the same social-political-economic pressure on Puerto Rico, as do the fleeing Haitians?


Of course no one can, because the Statement is false!

What was that about taking responsabilité for your OWN problems and not bad mouthing the one nation-state that has done the most to help Haití, certainly the FIRST to come to her aid after the January 10, 2010 earthquake?

With political life set to become more active in Haití after the coming élections, get set for more instabilités.

Control that border DR. Have the Peruvian troops arrived?


Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 9:45 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
"Lautaro
Oh boy, you just opened a can of worms. Now the Haitian hordes will get on Bill Gates case, and ask for boycott of his products, accuse him of racial discrimination, insult him, spread that he is a masisi, and threaten to use voo doo on him."

So much the worse for them if they do so, general, cuz' the evidence is in the pudding: He has been insanely successful in everything he has put his hands on, while they have yet to get a respite from all the consequences that some of their ill advised socioeconomic and political decisions have brought them. As the saying goes, success have many parents and godparents, while failure is, and always will remain being, an orphan.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 9:46 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
jasfalon
The DR has many challenges, in education, health, income inequality, and blatant institutional corruption, but we have progressed exponentially, while Haiti has gone backwards.
The Haitian illegals and daily migration flow, of the poorest immigrants weighs heavily in the progress of the DR.
I have visited hospitals with DR pregnant women, sharing the same small bed with Haitians.
Doctors in DR hospitals, are so stressed that some are carrying bullet proof vests, and knives, to protect themselves against irate patients, and mad as hell relatives urging for their care.
The DR is NOT doomed, if we can keep our borders secure, and send the illegals back.
The DR is not the solution to Haiti's problems.
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 9:48 AM
From: Haiti
@lautaro true idiot
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 9:49 AM
From: Haiti
I guess bill gates going to know wen he going to die
Written by: DONT_BE_SILENT, 24 Jan 2014 9:54 AM
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NOR FORSAKEN!
ritten by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 9:48 AM
From: Haiti
@lautaro true idiot



This is one mad Haitian. Truth could be very uncomfortable, specially when one is on denial.
Written by: Atabey, 24 Jan 2014 9:55 AM
From: United States, Bring DT Forum Back--


Mickey,

From what branch of the Haitian Emperor Faustin I do you have Noble status?

Le baron Tumba Pulvo?

Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 9:56 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Lautaro
Meanwhile some are asking for more Dominican investments in Haiti, what a laugh!
Truth is that no matter how much the Haitian ultra nationalists kick and scream, the internationally community has to disband the Martelly cross dresser delinquents, that governs Haiti, and establish a UN appointed trust and governor to rule Haitian institutions and government.
Mark my word, that is the only solution.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 10:00 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Mike36
The mad as a dog with rabies Haitian.
Just leaning to cut and paste, since he can barely use a keyboard writing with his toes!
Now he announces that he is a Afro-Centric black supremacist!


EDITOR, MODERATOR WHERE ARE THOU!
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 10:02 AM
From: Haiti
The white colonialists have never forgiven Haitians for the revolution of 1804, the first successful revolt against white supremacy. “The slander and degradation against us about our poverty, alleged political incompetence, and poor educational infrastructure is tied to the persistent desire of our historical enemies to wipe our revolution from our minds and the rest of the world’s.”
Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 10:04 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
Don't be silent,

The only wise course to follow with those types is to do as the saying goes: "A palabras necias, oídos sordos".

general,

That's the only way out I see as well, and even lefty, "anti-racist" organizations like Oxfam think so as well. Thing is, nobody wants to step forward and foot the bill.
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 10:04 AM
From: Haiti

Google What Should it Mean to Be Haitian in 2014
Posted by Pascal Robert
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 10:11 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Mike36
Stop with your curses and cut and pasting, adults are talking here.
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 10:11 AM
From: Haiti
@generoso I'm done with you cause you got the title to be a true idiot
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 10:13 AM
From: Haiti
The true always hurt!
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 10:20 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Lautaro
The UN is already in the red paying for MINUSTAH, with no end in sight.
The DR government has to swallow the bitter pill, and understand that the DR has NO CHOICE, but to protect the DR borders, and allocate whatever funds are necessary, for the containment of the Haitians and other illegals.
Drug and weapon smuggling through the border, also pose a serious threat to governability.
The DR has to allocate other needed infrastructure investments in health and education, to seal the border shut.
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 24 Jan 2014 10:33 AM
From: United States
General,

Ou freken. But funny kaka chien. Jajajaja. Its that im a poor dominican but im not haitian mentallity thats been ingrained in the dominican psyche that I find interesting.
At then end of the day the problem in 2014 is lack of investments. Lack of infrastructure corruption etc. Same problem on dr. Your corrupt govt steat .10-.20 on the $ while haitians sreal .80-.90 on the $.

This fantasy you nationalistic Dominikkaners (rokete) have about how great things are in nirvana is a lie. You guys are leaving in droves just like haitians.
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 24 Jan 2014 10:41 AM
From: United States
Lautaro/generoso,

No one is asking for investments. If you come and make money in haiti invest in haiti. Create jobs in (haiti) your market. Guess what happens when the dr companies open chicken and egg farm in haiti? These people will have more disposable income to spend more (buy more cjicken and eggs) govt can collect more taxes provide more service blah blah blah.
You guys know all this but you want to have sucj a negative view of haiti you cant help yourself.
Instead of going back and forth work for the betterment of the island.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 10:46 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
ignorance
The ones leaving the DR are the poorest and most uneducated, pushed precisely by the lack of opportunities at home, because the haitians have taken their place.
No one with a job and a source of income, will adventure into another country, with different customs, culture, language and climate, if they have an adequate means of support.
Haitians only have to cross the land border, but Dominicans must adventure into the caribbean ocean, full of sharks and inclement weather, where many perish.
Yet to many the have no choice but to risk their lives.
Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 10:49 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
"You guys know all this but you want to have sucj a negative view of haiti you cant help yourself."

Past experience makes one be pessimistic, mon ami. When Baby Doc fell, everyone and their mother thought that to have been the chance for Haiti to finally get a respite, yet things only got progressively worse as the years went by, one upheaval replacing the next. Let's hope for all our sakes that Lamothe prove to be a different breed from the other politicians that have passed through the ministerial seat.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 10:54 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Ignorance
I took about a dozen Dominican investors to Haiti once, looking over a kitchen utensils manufacturing plant that had shut down because of labor problems.
We had to stop by the Canadian bank downtown of Port-Au-Prince. The stench inside the bank, with the closed air conditioning, was unbearable, and some had to go outside for air. While outside a couple of Haitians where taking a shit in the curb, as if all was OK and that was usual and customary. The leader of the DR group, a prominent and influential Dominican investor said:

Now that's too much for anyone to live with on a daily basis, we are gone!

I tried to calm the waters, and calm them again to no avail. Their patience had been tested too many times, and they never came back.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 10:56 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Lautaro
Lamothe is a shining star, but he is not in charge. The gang of Martelly misfits rules.
Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 10:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
"Lautaro
Lamothe is a shining star, but he is not in charge. The gang of Martelly misfits rules."

Correct me if I'm wrong, general, but isn't Haiti a duumvirate, mimicking the former governeur/intendant one that used to be in charge during the colonial era?
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 11:01 AM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Lautaro

Re your: "Correct me if I'm wrong, general, but isn't Haiti a dumbvirate, mimicking the former governeur/intendant one that used to be in charge during the colonial era?"


LOL, come to think about it, you are right on!
Written by: Boriquen90, 24 Jan 2014 11:17 AM
From: United States
I'm Puerto Rican, so I'm an outsider in regards to the Dominican people and their affairs but it will never cease to amaze how absurdly antagonistic, patronizing, and condescending some of these Haitians and other foreigners are to the Dominican people, especially on THEIR turf/homeland. I've seen this equally disgusting, pathological behavior on DR1.com, where you have many of these arrogant, pompous, sanctimonious "gringos"/Haitians/outsiders acting like colonial overlords, looking down on the inhabitants (Dominicans) whose land they occupy. It seems there's a lot of complexity to Haitian dilemma that is severely underestimated but I guess simplistic cries of bigotry and racism garner more attention, does it?
Written by: Trinitario809, 24 Jan 2014 11:21 AM
From: Dominican Republic, is not the solution to Haiti's problems !
Written by Generoso:

" While outside a couple of Haitians where taking a shit in the curb, as if all was OK and that was usual and customary "

-------------

Ignorance, sweetmickey36 and Co. , you need to go off right now and rant about how Generoso just made a racist comment and that this is a misconception and lies about Haiti and that it could never be true because Haitians lack bungholes and never poop !!!
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 11:25 AM
From: United States
@general, you said every country try to help Haiti, what about fair trade, transparency of aid through the government and special laws like agriculture laws for a set amount of year just for Haiti, instead of dumping support local farmers through food programs, instead of importing it , locally it would be cheaper. None of these have been act , HAITI IS ONE OF THE MOST BIGGEST SMUGGLING PLACE IN THE WORLD FOR GOVERNMENTS AND N.G.O.'S.
@Boriquen90, HOW TO GET TO DR1.COM COMMENT SECTIONS?
Written by: Trinitario809, 24 Jan 2014 11:28 AM
From: Dominican Republic, is not the solution to Haiti's problems !
Borinquen:

Delusion is a common condition among many in Haiti.
It is after all, their best mechanism to avoid the hard, harsh and ugly reality that looms over Haiti.
Written by: Boriquen90, 24 Jan 2014 11:41 AM
From: United States
@Trinitario809

I'm inclined to agree. These individuals seem to suffer exactly what they accuse the Dominican people of: Self-hatred, denial, and confusion. There's also the sense of entitlement and an unjustified sense of moral superiority and righteousness. I like how when it comes to a complicated subject like immigration in the D.R., Haitians and their foreign cohorts are always on the moral high ground while Dominicans, save for those who bend over, are branded "bigots", "racists", "right-wingers". I'm beginning to think a lot of these accusations are more like projections of the (actual) thoughts and beliefs of our self-proclaimed "progressives", "liberals" and their ilk.
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 11:49 AM
From: United States
@boriquen90, you need to understand the history between the two
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 12:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Borinquen90
Your insight is most welcomed.
Again I apologize for the many Dominican illegals, that made their way into Puerto Rico, searching for a better life. And Puerto Rico is in their undeniable right to repatriate them.
The basic problem that fosters illegal Dominican immigrants, is the lack of opportunities at home, mainly caused by the displacement by haitian nationals.
Although Dominicans speak spanish, and their are culturally similar to the PR guajiros. They blend in and try not to cause trouble, demand nationality or claim discrimination.
One of DT's most admired and respected poster, is a lawyer that writes under the name Devin11, another Puerto Rican, comments most watched for in DT.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 12:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
bhaitian
History can better serve to understand certain traits and possibly ingrained prejudices.
But we most fast forward to the present, and stop looking for historic excuses.
We must be here now, not in the past, or like many Haitians, dreaming about gold mines, oil finds, and a magic wand that will cure all their ills.
The first step is to acknowledge that things are wrong, and then make plans to correct them.
Even if Guy Lamothe is elected prime minister, he will still have to compromise, with the opposition, and that is unattainable. Haiti needs autocratic rule, preferably as a trust, under the UN supervision.
Written by: ignoranceisbliss, 24 Jan 2014 12:17 PM
From: United States
Generoso,

The ones leaving the DR are the poorest and most uneducated, pushed precisely by the lack of opportunities at home,

Majority are probably poor but your losing your middle class as well like everyone else. Everything you said about dominicans leaving but so are other groups leaving for america or europe.


I agree there needs to be a cultural change amongst our poor from the slums and countryside. I cant stop laughing. I refuse to believe someone would take a dump out in the open midday. Im not calling you a liar ok.
Written by: USADR, 24 Jan 2014 12:18 PM
From: United States
Its quite incredible on just how much hypocrisy, double standards, biases and outright lies are told and retold regarding Haiti / DR and the issues between the two.

You have one country with a history of imperialistic aggression, predation, constant land encroachment, eco-terrorism, being painted as an almost saintly victim while the country that was their target is painted as the villain.
You have one country with a history and culture chock full of racially fueled massacres, wars and racial obsessions, but shockingly painted as a proud black racial paradise, while the country with a history of racial tolerance, a haven for any runaway slaves, as a virtual brown nazi Germany.
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 12:19 PM
From: Haiti
I don't have time for idiot I'm not black I'm Dominican) but Dominican not a race idiot
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 12:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
Ignorance
You have to see it to believe it, I agree.
Next time you visit DR, not Haiti, go to Verón, next to Punta Cana, and watch the haitians work, eat, piss, fornicate and defecate in the same tight spaces, during construction works.
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 12:25 PM
From: United States
@generoso, i'm not talking about the past i'm talking from 1990- today, look what happen to Aristides when he formed his government in 2004 , the united states of america complain for not compromising with the opposition , then the united states of america over throw him , then replace him in a unconstitutional manor in which protest and discontent spread , then the MINUSTAH was created , then the united states of america try to force Haiti not sign the petrocarib which is of benefit to Haiti then right before bush finish his last term he made sure to block all aid to Haiti especially on grant that was granted and approve by I.D.B. for water quality was block , which against I.D.B. charter that once a program has been approve they can't with held the fund , so i talking about independence of Haiti. and there is more if you want to know
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 12:28 PM
From: Haiti
Haiti will take over dr business soon just watch dr don't have no history
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 12:34 PM
From: United States
@ Mike36,"Haiti will take over dr business soon just watch dr don't have no history" really
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 12:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
bhaitian
I know and you are correct also. But the past whether recent or yesterday is the past, and we must become actualized.
The US, France and the UK has much responsibility for the state of things in Haiti, and they have all done much damage to Haiti. Clinton even apologized for spoiling and ruining Haitian agriculture and rice farmers. Bush hasn't yet, although he was with Clinton in Haiti trying to make amends.
The disbandment of the haitian army was a big mistake, it had many rotten apples, but it was a historic Haitian institution that was mostly feared, but also revered and respected by the haitian masses.
We could go on and on, with the rosary of faux pas, that have befallen in Haiti, but the solution to haitian problems, can not come only from the DR.
The DR has done their share, after the earthquake we forgot historical grievances, and went to Haiti, to help.
What has Haiti done lately for their good neighbor the DR?
Written by: Mike36, 24 Jan 2014 12:50 PM
From: Haiti
*tourism
Written by: USADR, 24 Jan 2014 12:53 PM
From: United States
"Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 12:36 PM
. Clinton even apologized for spoiling and ruining Haitian agriculture and rice farmers. Bush hasn't yet, although he was with Clinton in Haiti trying to make amends."

^
Indeed:

Meddling in Haiti Can Cost Lives



By Thomas Sowell Copyright Creators Syndicate Inc.
Newspaper article from St Louis Post-Dispatch (MO)

Why are we in Haiti? Partly we are in Haiti to keep Haitians from coming to this country. It was not politically possible to keep accepting unlimited swarms of Haitian refugees - and it was also not politically possible to keep sending them back. So the Clinton administration decided to "do something."
Written by: Boriquen90, 24 Jan 2014 1:13 PM
From: United States
@generoso

No need to apologize, as I'm a Puerto Rican whose lived most of his life in the States and the influx of Dominican immigrants to the motherland, as well as the perception by locals of them no way reflect my own feelings on the matter. The islanders, however, IMHO, are entitled to feel whatever sentiments they have. It seems in both the island and the US, Puerto Rican and Dominican relationships are very complex. On one hand, both can be very antagonistic toward one other, on the other hand, we can be the best of comrades and dare I say, actual " friends".

My own interest in these discussions have more to do with the slandering against your country. by outsiders ignorant of D.R. and Latin America in general and how the subject of race is abused and exploited for political gain. I would never want to see Puerto Rico or any other Latin American country subjected to such unfair scrutiny, even with, unfortunately, some of our (sometimes alleged) "colonial prejudices".
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 1:14 PM
From: United States
@general, really pay attention to michel joseph martelly government which has the highest support of any government in the western hemisphere , he want the army back,collect tax , equalize trade with dr, boost local production, bring haiti back on the tourism trail ,build infrastructure, increase transparency , coordinate the n.g.o.'s to the haitian national development plan, attract foreign companies , to create free education, and create social programs for the public.
mpce.gouv.ht/psdhsynthesanglais.pdf
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 1:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Close the border all together.

Don't let the Haitians deviate you guys from the subject at hand.

Haitian problems are to be solved in Haiti.

The Dominican Republic is not the cause of your problem,

and it is not the solution to your problems.

Back to your racist Haitian kilombo together with your offspring !!!

HAITIANS ARE ALWAYS FINDING AN EXCUSE TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE FOR THEIR PROBLEMS.

THEREFORE, AVOIDING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN MISMANAGEMENT !!

Who is to blame, France, Napoleon, Le Clerc, Ferrand, white imperialist, white supremacist,

Luis the XVIII, salve traders

the USA, Woodrow Wlson, Anhaeuser Bush, Bill Clinton,

Dominican, Trujillo, the racist, Leonel Fernadez, Danilo, La Junta Central Electoral,

The TC rule, 1929

the weather, the climate, Cuba Fidel,

Everything under the sun is responsible for Haitian demise, except.

the the Haitians themselves and their politicians.


Now it is your favorite: Dominicans
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 1:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
bhaitian
I forecasted his election and originally supported Martelly against Manigat. I have some close haitian friends, that gave him his support also.
But as soon as he turned against the DR and started the trade bans, and then the false accusations against the DR, then all demons came loose, and he became the enemy.
I agree that Haiti is a difficult place to govern, and must be done with a firm hand, but not using the political excuse to march against the DR.
Politicians have no friends, neither do states, only interests.
Martelly was not elected by a majority, only by a scant 17% of the electorate, if fair elections where held in Haiti, Aristide and Lavalas would return to power. (What a nightmare).
So sit tight and watch the end of the movie, for the beginning of the end for Sweet Micky is coming.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 1:27 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
PS:
Thanks for the PM's but, I must depart now, see you guys later.
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 1:35 PM
From: United States
@general, all we want is fair trade with dr
"But as soon as he turned against the DR and started the trade bans, and then the false accusations against the DR, then all demons came loose, and he became the enemy" HE DIDN'T.
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 1:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Go back to your kilombo and force a revolution,

in your own country that forces a change of direction.

Demand more from your bull shit politicians.

Demand over due 2011 free election from your government.

THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO HAITI'S PROBLEMS.

YOU HAITIANS DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO DEMAND ANYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY !!!

YOU HAVE A COUNTRY OF YOUR OWN,

GO AND CLEAN YOUR LATRINE SO THAT YOUR FUTURE GENERATION,

CAN A HAVE A DECENT COUNTRY TO LIVE IN.

DON'T MIND THOSE BROWN RACIST DOMINICANS,

GO AND BUILD YOUR ULTRA BLACK RACIST HAITIAN KILOMBO
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 1:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))



Haitians go back to Haiti and fix your Latrine !!!!
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 1:57 PM
From: United States
@rokete, what is it you want; for when Haiti tighten ups it self to take care of it's self you complain, but when Haiti is spilling over you complain , is there anything THAT YOU would not make you complain.
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 2:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

What i want is simple !!!

Haitians over there Dominicans over here.

Problem solved !!!!

Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 2:24 PM
From: United States
@rokete, really when aristides give his speech in 2004 you where on of the main complainers when told haitians not to go to dr, you even made fun of his appearance and made a lot of racial and rude comments as usual, but now you complain about haitians going to dr
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jan 2014 2:25 PM
From: United States
Hallan dos haitianos descuartizados en Santiago....

Dos nacionales haitianos fueron encontrados decapitados y descuartizos en el rio Las Lavas del municipio de Villa González, Santiago, informó este miércoles la Policia.

elcaribe.com.do/2014/01/22/hallan-dos-haitianos-descuartizados-santiago

Just Curious about why DT did not report that one...
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 2:39 PM
From: United States
@adamo123, those are the stories that worries the Haitian community and international community which has been voicing concern on the increase of violence toward Haitians.
Written by: guillermone, 24 Jan 2014 2:42 PM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
elcaribe.com.do/2014/01/22/hallan-dos-haitianos-descuartizados-santiago

"Just Curious about why DT did not report that one..."

I guess they lost their heads on that one.
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jan 2014 2:50 PM
From: United States
@Guillermone
Do Dominicans love or enjoy the taste of Haitian's head? Please advise!....Seems more likely the case...
Next time I come to DR I'd better inspect my Sancocho twice for head flesh. Do you agree?

This isn't a fake or a doctored video from youtube! No one can argue that this is fake this time.
Written by: DaveB, 24 Jan 2014 2:57 PM
From: United States
Would the partisan accuser please list those so-called "white imperialists" by name and country? To which century is it referring? Does it consider the violent invasion of a neighboring country, along with the slaughtering of that country's people, as imperialism?
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jan 2014 2:59 PM
From: United States
@bhaitian

I agree with you....but sometimes the Haitians forgot that they are the guests not the hosts....Some not all, at times are being the instigators while they have nowhere to run. I am not condoning or trying to justify what happened to those two but as guests they should probably lay low. There will be retaliation but that will only make matter worst.
Written by: the_haitian, 24 Jan 2014 3:04 PM
From: United States, west orange new jersey
@genorosso It seems to me the same jobs that Dominicans are doing in pr are the same job that Haitian are doing I. Dr. @ bor90 if you are who you are tell dt reader how dominican are treated at the airport and inside pr. Is it not the same way Haitians are treated ? @ genorosso you should be a fiction writer
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 3:08 PM
From: United States
@Adamo123, there is only one solution both side to choose the latter
Written by: PatDiamond, 24 Jan 2014 3:19 PM
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
Here we go again the Haiti Doom and gloom brigade in full swing on DT,some of you might be advised to start getting your news in regard to Haiti from better sources than this poor man RSS feed. BTW consider the Martelly Lamothe government got the full backing of the State department and Haiti recently got removed off that iminent danger list I doubt his government is going anywhere.

In regard to the Bill Gate news letter, there is a great deal of hype about warren buffet as the Oracle, but all of us who actually work these markets follow Jim Rogers and see warren as no more than a band wagonist.

Not sure where Your Prezi is but Lamothe is currently in Davos right now second year in a row, Having meetings with Micheal Dell in regard to Haiti E Governance and others,never mind being interviewed on Bloomberg business news . Remember you can't just show up at Davos but have to be invited, don't let me deter you gentlemen please proceed.


Written by: PatDiamond, 24 Jan 2014 3:21 PM
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
You should be a fiction writer
---------------------------------
True
Written by: Lautaro, 24 Jan 2014 3:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring DT Forum Back
"Note sure where Your Prezi is"

He is where the country needs him to be: In the countryside giving financial and logistical support to the small peasants with their productions. Travelling and show offing is more the modus operandi of the former pres., so I prefer the MO of this one, thank you very much.
Written by: HaitianToday, 24 Jan 2014 3:43 PM
From: Haiti
At El Seibo 
45 year old Haitian man dismembers 13 year old girl.

45 YEAR OLD PERPETRATOR HAD HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH VICTIM.

EL Seibo
A 45 year old Haitian man hacked his girlfriend of just 13 years to death, a crime recorded at the sugarcane community of Mata de Palma, about 17 miles south of El Seibo, reported the National Police.
The minor killed is Yaneli Perez,13, also Haitian , who was attacked by Moliere Pierre , 45, when the teenager was heading to school.The child was found with his uniform, a blue blouse and khaki skirt, face down in a pool of blood.
The killer mutilated the 13 year old's left arm, slit her throat, severed her right leg and inflicted several machete wounds that almost split her back in two.
Right next to the body, clenched by her right hand, there was a black backpack.
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jan 2014 3:49 PM
From: United States
@bhaitian

Let's be realistic, it is hard to be home and to lay low to accommodate your unwelcome guests.....That will be a very tough concession to expect of knowing the history of the two nations...it is possible but unlikely to happen anytime soon, unless both parties realize that will be in the best interest of all to make a truce or move on past their differences. Now the egos of both H and D will come into play.
Written by: Adamo123, 24 Jan 2014 3:53 PM
From: United States
@Haitian Today...
A bit of correction....I have read that story too but I believed that it said that the victim was the daughter of the perpetrator living girlfriend.....Please review this article and post accordingly for accuracy.
This JA thought that the child was possessed by the devils, if my memory serves me well. Decapitation fits for this moron....

I have not been able to find the article I thought I read on this......but if you can please confirm its accuracy....for I cannot confirm it on my end
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 4:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
One thing is for sure. Haitians are creating a problem, that is coming very close to the limit of our Dominican patience. Things are going to get very ugly. There is going to be unnecessary blood on the streets. Something that could be avoided by Haitians staying in Haiti.
Written by: bhaitian, 24 Jan 2014 4:17 PM
From: United States
@Adamo123, absolutely agree if they really want they can work like yin and yang opposite that respect each other and protect one another for they depend on each other.
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 4:35 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
What you need is to go fix your own country so that Haitians stop demanding rights you don't have and stop blaming others for your misfortune or begging for crumbs at the neighbors house.
Written by: Perception, 24 Jan 2014 4:40 PM
From: United States
Public "Inflammatory" Comments by the "Cardinal" are "Responsible".


Open his mouth and take a "Peek" what is "Inside".!


Free Dom.
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 5:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: Perception, 24 Jan 2014 4:40 PM
From: United States
Public "Inflammatory" Comments by the "Cardinal" are "Responsible".


Open his mouth and take a "Peek" what is "Inside".!


Free Dom.
_________


BLAME IT ON ANYONE THAT IS NOT HAITIAN

THAT IS THE HAITIAN POLICY !!!

The day Haitians start taking responsibility for their actions Haiti will strt to change for the better!!!
Written by: rokete, 24 Jan 2014 6:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2014 8:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Bring Back DT Forum
Ignoramus
There YOU go again. Fault finding and blaming others is a peculiar and ingrained Haitian trait.
Until Haitians start being responsible and admitting their internal problems, they will persist.
Instead of being quick on the draw, and start the blame game, plus the race card, why don't you Hate-tians stop being in denial, and admit your failures as a nation, and in choosing your leaders, and start a real revolution, that frees your people, and not further enslaves them (restavek) or pushes them out of Haiti, in desperation, to escape the misery, fostered by generations of blaming others.

THIS DESERVES REPEATING, MAYBE THIS WAY IT GETS HAMMERED,

INTO YOUR HAITIAN ILLITERATES MINDS !!
Written by: antonioj, 24 Jan 2014 6:12 PM
From: Canada, Ottawa.. Bring the Forum back
@mike36
"
@Generoso a idiot with no education just like you talking with a animal won't never understand always find someone to blame
@Lautaro Idiot
"
Mike, this seem to me, as a non-starter, how can you be taken seriously, You have started with some solid points, please do not spew diatribe for the sake of it, just because someone choose to argue these facts.
Written by: bernies, 25 Jan 2014 8:26 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Juan Dolio
Why doesn't martiley do as we with his people. We expent significant amount of money and time to try to prevent Dominican to go to puerto rico in yola and those whom get busted trying to do it get sent to jail and pay a fine. I told you why the haitian government doesn't do the same with its people, because by allowing their nationals to come to the DR they have less and less people to feed. In other words less problem to Haiti and more problems to the dr. Haití should also expend money and time to prevent its nationals to come here illegally.

The Haití government and their supporters wants for this country to give right to Dominican legal status to their nationals, but how do we do that we does haitians never had a piece of documentation that proves who they are.

Yes dominicans go to puerto rico illegally, the difference is that those dominicans that do that with the money that they paid to do it they can start a business here. I heard stories of people paying up to 15kfor
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 1:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
"The day Haitians start taking responsibility for their actions Haiti will start to change for the better!!!"

Alas! Finally something that this guy says makes sense. I wonder why the Haitians or Haitian sympathizers on this forum never respond to me when I say that "Haitians need to go home and rebuild their once proud nation that inspired liberation movements around the world?" It seems that folks would rather continue to bash Dominicans (some deservedly so, i.e the Fascist/Racist so-called man of God Cardinal Lopez) rather than raise up the sleeves and get busy rebuilding your country. You were on the right track with the Fanmi Lavalas that brought Arisitide to power but then you let up off the gas, coasted to a stop, and allowed the US and CIA to throw the whole damn movement into reverse. Now you've got enough oil reserves, gold, and precious metals to bring the nation back from the brink of a human disaster but you would rather run to DR and PR than fight as your heroes did.
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 1:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The NGO types, missionaries, and neo-liberals on this forum can't stomach this kind of talk. They only like violence and bloodshed when they want to rob another nation of it's oil, it's natural gas, or precious metals and then create, train, and fund a "bogeyman" to give them the veil of a premise to bomb the nation into submission. But in the DR, these same kind of folk whom I have met many times and have had heated discussions with, are a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites who unfortunately have this growing fascist-racist sentiment that exists here in the DR as a convenient cover for their ulterior motives.and hypocrisy.
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 1:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
My Haitian brothers (I am not Haitian but I believe in the brotherhood of the human family) need to muster up the courage to stand and fight, and die if necessary. Freedom is won at the barrel of the gun. Not running, not begging for it, not whining about being the victim. Throw off your allegiance to these religions (especially voodoo which hasn't been able to work against anything thus far) and pick up the spirit of nationalism, then pick up the gun and machete and start dealing with "your own people" who keep Haiti backwards and corrupt with the only language that these people seem to understand. And when the representatives of these 30 or so Haitian families that control the resources of the nation from their perch in the US and France arrive in Port Au Prince, when they step off the plane, send them straight to the cemetery and show them that you're serious about liberation and restoring your nation to one where its resources are used to benefit its citizenry.
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 2:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The difficult task,for the common man here in the DR, the one who undoubtedly has the most to lose or gain, is answering the question who is it that benefits from fomenting instability in Haiti and by default Dominican Republic. We have to admit that because of a permeable border and economic ties that are essential to both nations, destabilizing one, has a destabilizing effect on the other. Finding the answer is one that is made the more difficult for a people who are naturally hyper-emotional and due to the worst public education system in the hemisphere are barely literate, politically immature, and completely devoid of any knowledge or understanding of geopolitics, the ruse and tricks of imperialist forces of the world and how those (like the Bolivarians) who are economically and politically aligned together are winning the struggle against these imperialists.
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 2:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Follow the money, the gold, the precious metals, and the oil and you will discover who is behind the destabilization (and why) while playing the role as "friends" to both sides.
Written by: Adamo123, 25 Jan 2014 9:02 PM
From: United States
@Bernies
""""""The Haití government and their supporters wants for this country to give right to Dominican legal status to their nationals, but how do we do that we does haitians never had a piece of documentation that proves who they are.""""""

However :
DR has a moral obligation to document the Braceros too....both sides are at fault...Historically DR had failed to do so. ( according to Historian Bernado Vega )

noticiassin.com/2013/10/bernardo-vega-rd-tiene-el-compromiso-moral-con-haitianos-fue-quien-los-trajo-y-no-los-documento/


"
Written by: generoso, 25 Jan 2014 9:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, +Sorry, No Habla Stupid+
PapiCarlos
While I understand the anger reflected in your discourse, it is extremely irresponsible to call for mass murder of innocents, just to please your "revolutionary" ideals.
Those who want other people to do their dirty work, and fight revolutions, are usually the ones that hide, until the war is over, and then emerge afterwards to claim the spoils.
Your call for a revolt, places you in the same group, as those that are interested in "fomenting instability", and trying to incite civil upheaval.
It would be madness to begin an uprising, while Haiti is intervened military by the UN, and this will not last more than a few days, until much superior forces arrive.
So you are either mad or drunk, and I would suggest you refrain from posting incendiary comments in DT, as you know as well as I do, that we are being watched, and you are risking not only your own well being, and freedom, but even the existence of the comment section, as per the DT forum, has been kaputt for months.
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 10:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic
@generoso

Mass murder of innocents? Who is calling for such a thing? The movement that brought Aristide to power and elected him by a landslide (not once but two times) did not come about via murder of innocents. But it was innocents who were killed in the CIA orchestrated actions that turned back the popular movement. These acts were facilitated by members of those corrupt Haitian "elite" families. Until those families are dealt with in the same way that they have dealt with anyone who dared to oppose them in the past, Haiti will never get it together. They have some serious housecleaning to do. The Bolivarian awakening movement that is gaining strength across Latin America didn't come about through spilling the blood of innocents. It has however demonstrated that it will be defended by the use of force if necessary. When the people follow the democratic process, elect their leadership only to come under the attack of reactionary forces, they have a right to defend their democracy
Written by: Perception, 25 Jan 2014 10:48 PM
From: United States
PapiCarlos,

All the "Island" bad influeces come from "three" countries.
"Two" represented by the "Idiom" and the "Third" Religion.

"Only and Alone".*

Don't "Blame" anybody "Else". (Latin)

Free Dom is "Not" a "Hispanic" word, "Libertinage" is.*


Education.***
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 12:05 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: PapiCarlos, 25 Jan 2014 2:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Follow the money, the gold, the precious metals, and the oil and you will discover who is behind the destabilization (and why) while playing the role as "friends" to both sides.
_____


I have been saying this for quite a while now.

There is a lot of Gold and other precious metals on both sides of the Island.

In the Central mountain range.

Gold has been known to be one of the very few commodities,

that has held monetary value through out the ages.

The de-stabilizers of governments are the Money Changers (or International Bankers).

Martelly and Leonel Fernandez being their major puppets !!

Here are some International Bankers, the government de-stabilizers.

The World Bank
International Monetary Funds
Round Of Paris
The Bank of England
The Federal Reserve
Deutsche Bank
Bank of Canada
Citibank
HSBC
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 12:05 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Plus the Gold diggers of:

Barrick Gold and Falcondo !!
Written by: Trinitario809, 26 Jan 2014 10:14 AM
From: Dominican Republic, is not the solution to Haiti's problems !
You guys, I got to admit that papicarlos highlights A LOT of valid points....
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 2:31 PM
From: United States
@PapiCarlos, Haitians are pushing for reforms and greater autonomy from Port-AU-Prince , but the biggest blow to Haiti is uneven trade with it's two biggest trade partners , the first is the united states which is heavily subsidize and with the use of destructive aid, the second is DR which puts ban on most of products that are produce , in which the numbers are way of balance, so what ever revolution that may a cure in Haiti will fail because of uneven trade, so Haitians are force to migrate to other places for better economic opportunity .
Written by: DaveB, 26 Jan 2014 2:53 PM
From: United States
" Forced to migrate"? That's a bunch of whiny, self centered, hate-filled, parasitic garbage. Maybe, like so many other countries who panhandle forever, your population is just too weak to stand up for itself.
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 3:03 PM
From: United States
@DaveB, if you can't make a living where you live , would you not move some where that you can make a living?
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 3:18 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 2:31 PM
From: United States
@PapiCarlos, Haitians are pushing for reforms and greater autonomy from Port-AU-Prince , but the biggest blow to Haiti is uneven trade with it's two biggest trade partners , the first is the united states which is heavily subsidize and with the use of destructive aid, the second is DR which puts ban on most of products that are produce , in which the numbers are way of balance, so what ever revolution that may a cure in Haiti will fail because of uneven trade, so Haitians are force to migrate to other places for better economic opportunity .
______


AS ALWAYS, HAITIANS BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE,

FOR THEIR MISMANAGEMENT,

AND BULL SHIT POLITICIANS !!!!
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 3:26 PM
From: United States
@ rokete,"
AS ALWAYS, HAITIANS BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE,

FOR THEIR MISMANAGEMENT,

AND BULL SHIT POLITICIANS !!!!" rokete when you are bitten by a snake do you keep the flow of venom to your body while your applying the anti venom or do you stop the flow of venom , try to remove as much of venom as possible then apply the anti venom.
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 3:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

If Haitians don't produce food, you have to imported.

I can understand and agree with you on the USA subsidizing it products,

which in turn protects their industries that produces misery in other nations.

But you are also blaming the Dominican Republic for Haiti's demise,

because we are selling you food at a lower price than the international market.

Have you come to realize that if Haiti has to buy food in the international market,

you would be paying a higher price for food,

that the average Haitians cannot afford and would have to go hungry.

Dominicans don't subsidize our food products !!!

HAITIANS NEED TO RE-EXAMINE THE WAY YOU THINK.

STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR MISFORTUNE.

YOU NEED TO RE-INVENT YOUR POLITICIANS AND GET RID OF YOUR ELITES !

THE DAY HAITIANS STOP BLAMING OTHERS,

AND START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS,

HAITI WILL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE POSITIVE CHANGE !!!!!
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 3:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

Haitians need to focus on creating something of value to export !!!

I have seen Cleren and Barbacourt at La Sirena, so where is the ban ???

You need to produce things of value, in order to be able to export !!!
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 3:42 PM
From: United States
@rokete, DR ban most of the products that Haiti produce even though they have international recognition of being of good quality , and the fact that the yearly trade between the two is 1 billion to 100 million shows the one sided of trade between the two republics.
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 3:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 3:42 PM
From: United States
@rokete, DR ban most of the products that Haiti produce even though they have international recognition of being of good quality , and the fact that the yearly trade between the two is 1 billion to 100 million shows the one sided of trade between the two republics.
_______

bhaitian

Name those products you are claiming,

that have international recognition,

and according to you have been banned in Dominicana.

I want to do an investigation on the subject.

I hope you are not talking about Yamagui !!


Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 3:56 PM
From: United States
the Haitian beer , peanut butter, and pasta and as a matter of fact Haitians have been fighting there politician tooth and nail .
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 4:19 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

bhaitian

You need to be realistic,

Many companies have tries to take the market from Presidente beer, to no avail.

Not even Corona beer from Mexico has been able to take that market,

Miller and Stella Artois are the only ones I see out there, don't know for how long.

Many have tried with no success.


Peanut butter is not popular in DR,


and pasta is produced from imported Semolina, in both countries.

Haiti will not be able to compete on prices.


Haiti needs to come up with products that are not food related !!!


Such as crafted Artesans products,

Haitians painting seem to sell very well in DR !!

That would be a step in the right direction !!


Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 4:22 PM
From: United States
@ rokete, then why ban them just let them try
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 4:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

I don't know about the ban, bhaitian.

I know that Cleren and Barbacourt are in the Dominican market.

Even with the array of competition with companies like Brugal, Barcelo, Bermudes and the likes.


So I find it hard to believe there is a ban.

There has to be some misconception on your part, as far as a ban is concern.
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 5:00 PM
From: United States
@ rokete, so what about the others
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 5:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
What others ??
Written by: bhaitian, 26 Jan 2014 5:47 PM
From: United States
@rokete, the ones i name
Written by: rokete, 26 Jan 2014 6:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))


Like I said bhaitian.

I don't know of any ban.

Maybe the high taxes could be a barrier, which is typical,

but no ban as far as know

Not a direct trade barrier !!
Written by: PatDiamond, 26 Jan 2014 9:41 PM
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
@PapiCarlos

Great Post Respect
Written by: Arcangel96, 26 Jan 2014 11:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
@bhaitian,
When you say "ban", what exactly are you referring to? I think this is the source of confusion. In most countries, imports are subjects to taxes, unless there are some kind of "free trade" agreements. I is not necessarily a "ban", but that these products even when found in DR, are not popular. They could be the best products in the world, but without marketing and/or advertizing what would you expect?
Written by: jasfalon, 28 Jan 2014 8:28 AM
From: United States

Right on, Papi Carlos!
Dominicans need to do the same in RD - REAL revolution in the streets.
Written by: rokete, 28 Jan 2014 1:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))

The only revolution we need in Dominicana,

is getting rid of the leeching Haitians draining our resources,

at a tune of 5,000,000,000 per year in education and health care.

Go and build your Haitian country,

so that your children can have a better country to live,

in for the future.
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