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‘An excess of the United States’

Translation: Dominican Today

“The United States has committed an excess by officially defining as Dominican to grant a visa to the young woman Juliana Deguis, when precisely a ruling by the Constitutional Court denied that condition. She was granted the visa even without having a passport.

The United States doesn’t have the right to be happily granting citizenship of other countries.

The Dominican Government cannot let this incident pass as an anecdotal episode, because the US action wasn’t innocent and has implications for national sovereignty.

It was just on Thursday when Deguis’ attorneys told the Dominican Foreign Ministry of their intention to travel to the United States and a little more than 48 hours she was already in an airport with a United States visa and without a travel document.

The hurried pace of that movement denotes bad faith, which is aggravated if one takes into account that it was instigated by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights.

This action reveals much about those who seek to question Dominican Republic for acting in accordance with its sovereign right to establish its own immigration policy.”

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26 comment(s)
Written by: AgentX, 24 Mar 2014 9:53 AM
From: United States
Since the beginning of Ms. Juliana Deguis nationality status that leads to the TC/0168/13 illegal law that violated Dominican Rep own laws as well as international laws, The Dominican media is using low level threat and violence against Haitians on his territory as follows:
1-Government sponsored of systematic assasination of Haitians on D.R territory including KKK menaces.
2-Using its media by denigrating Haiti and Haitians
3-Making low level military threat on its media.
We put you on notice that any foolish Dominican military incursing in Haiti will be crushed with a vengence by Ft. Braggs. Subsequently light skinned Dominicans and their business interest around the globe will be oblitered.
Written by: generoso, 24 Mar 2014 9:55 AM
From: Dominican Republic, ****Raise your words, not your voice. Rain grows food, not thunder.****
Haitians keep on their offense for invasion and fusion plans.
No country in the world would let anyone travel without a travel document or passport. The whole incident, was preplanned specifically to attract press attention.
This woman and her entourage of well dressed "vedette's", driven to the airport in a caravan of expensive SUV's, says a lot.
For those that still doubt the Haitian and international conspiracy, to make the DR caretaker of Haiti's problems, just wake up, the local traitors and conspirators do not sleep, or relent on their final goals to unite the island.
Their intention is to annul the Dominican nationality, and merge the two countries into one island that will soon become inhabited by twenty million desperate souls, instead of the present ten million.
Just say NO to the daily attacks, of the traitors and Haitian invaders.
Written by: bernies, 24 Mar 2014 10:02 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Juan Dolio
F.....K the USA, our government should it had allow this lady to fly out of the country and then denied entry when she was due to return because she is not Dominican and doesn't have Dominican residency. We really made it a mistake on this one.
Written by: anthonyC, 24 Mar 2014 10:04 AM
From: United States
"The United States doesn’t have the right to be happily granting citizenship of other countries."

We can do whatever the F*ck we want. Deal with it.

Wonder how many of the Obama lovers on this forum are having 2nd thoughts now?

Written by: bernies, 24 Mar 2014 10:08 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Juan Dolio
AgentX, it is fine and dandy when you are sitting on the other side of isle and are in a country with little problem such as the USA. Dominicans will do whatever we can to keep the Haitians on their side and us here. Did you know that a Dominican cannot travel to Haiti unless he or she has visa and pay 80.00USD at the border crossing when USA, CANADA and Europeans nationals can cross the border without needing a visa or having to pay the 80.00USD. Now does that sounds right to you?

Well said Generoso.
Written by: TuPapaupa2014, 24 Mar 2014 10:15 AM
From: United States, (((((roketa + blue105 + borderwall = SAME POSTER..BUSTED!!!. JAJAJAJAJA!)))))
Written by: anthonyC, 24 Mar 2014 10:04 AM
From: United States
"The United States doesn’t have the right to be happily granting citizenship of other countries."

We can do whatever the F*ck we want. Deal with it.

Wonder how many of the Obama lovers on this forum are having 2nd thoughts now?
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Who is "we"?...............last I checked you are Cuban...........a Cuban who can NOT go back home.

The US shouldn't have stuck it's nose where it didn't belong.

Written by: rokete, 24 Mar 2014 11:08 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: Gomezmedia,

This time, the whole world has come to the side of the United States on this specific issue, with the exception of the DR, as it fights its last losing battle. Juliana now is in "internal exile" as her country of birth refuses to grant her a passport and then blocked her participation at an upcoming human rights hearing.

It's important to note that criticism of the US on this issue is limited to Dominican newspapers only, as they are official mouthpiece of the Dominican government Nowhere else around the world will you find any criticism of the US position on this issue
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Perfect oportunity for the Dominicans,

to establish once and for all,

that we are not going to bend to any country on earth,

big or small, nor meddle in our internal affair.

Specially the big bad wolf of the USA.


Dominicans are not going to be coersed into a HISPANIOLA FUSION !

IRREVOCABLE AND DEFINITIVE SINCE 1929 TO INFINITY AND BEYOND !
Written by: rokete, 24 Mar 2014 11:15 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: AgentX, 24 Mar 2014 9:53 AM
Juliana Deguis nationality status that leads to the TC/0168/13 illegal law that violated Dominican Rep own laws as well as international laws, The Dominican media is using low level threat and violence against Haitians on his territory as follows
We put you on notice that any foolish Dominican military incursing in Haiti will be crushed with a vengence by Ft. Braggs. Subsequently light skinned Dominicans and their business interest around the globe will be oblitered.
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Now we are really shitting in our pants !

Dominicans sovereing laws are going to be respected by everyone,

including the lawless Haitian predators!

We are not affraid of your so called biased world !

We have been there and done that in 1960.

We will survive and still stand against the odds.

Not affraid of the cowardly Haitians people iether.
Written by: rokete, 24 Mar 2014 11:20 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: bernies, 24 Mar 2014 10:02 AM
From: United States, key west fl
F.....K the USA, our government should it had allow this lady to fly out of the country and then denied entry when she was due to return because she is not Dominican and doesn't have Dominican residency. We really made it a mistake on this one.
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No Bernie

giving her documents to travel would have been acknoleging her as Dominican,

that she is not.

Let her get Haitian documents, if she and the rest of the HISPANIOLA FUSION CREW,

want her to travel to USA.


SHE IS HAITIAN !!!
Written by: rokete, 24 Mar 2014 11:23 AM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: anthonyC, 24 Mar 2014 10:04 AM
From: United States
"The United States doesn’t have the right to be happily granting citizenship of other countries."

We can do whatever the F*ck we want. Deal with it.

Wonder how many of the Obama lovers on this forum are having 2nd thoughts now?

__________________

The Dominican republic will prevail as we have done in the past.

The US is playing with fired trying hard to turn the Hispaniola into a battlefield.

There are 1.5 million Dominicans within the USA.

Things can escalate to get pretty F#ccked up in this fragmented world !
Written by: tambora, 24 Mar 2014 11:39 AM
From: United States, Sentencia TC/0168/13 Stands Unrevoked One Year Later! 9/23/2013


Directora Pasaportes asegura que no se le negó el documento a Juliana Deguis Pierre

"Santo Domingo.-La directora general de Pasaportes, Iris Guaba aclaró este domingo que esa institución no ha negado el pasaporte a la señora Juliana Deguis Pierre, ya que ella no hizo una solicitud formal para adquirir el documento de viaje, sino que simplemente se presentó a la sede de esa entidad con abogados y periodistas a depositar una copia de un acta de nacimiento y de una visa humanitaria que le habría otorgado la embajada norteamericana, sin ninguna otra documentación de las que se requieren para sacar ese documento."

bit.ly/1oUxlaY
Written by: Gerechtigkeit, 24 Mar 2014 12:10 PM
From: Germany
Rokete
SHE IS HAITIAN !!!

According to some news papers She speaks only Spanish.. she does not know anything about Haiti
Written by: tambora, 24 Mar 2014 12:17 PM
From: United States, Sentencia TC/0168/13 Stands Unrevoked One Year Later! 9/23/2013


According to this article it seems Ms. Deguis Pierre did not formally apply for a passport and not that she was denied a Dominican passport.




Directora Pasaportes asegura que no se le negó el documento a Juliana Deguis Pierre

"Santo Domingo.-La directora general de Pasaportes, Iris Guaba aclaró este domingo que esa institución no ha negado el pasaporte a la señora Juliana Deguis Pierre, ya que ella no hizo una solicitud formal para adquirir el documento de viaje, sino que simplemente se presentó a la sede de esa entidad con abogados y periodistas a depositar una copia de un acta de nacimiento y de una visa humanitaria que le habría otorgado la embajada norteamericana, sin ninguna otra documentación de las que se requieren para sacar ese documento."

bit.ly/1oUxlaY
Written by: rokete, 24 Mar 2014 12:29 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: Gerechtigkeit, 24 Mar 2014 12:10 PM
From: Germany
Rokete
SHE IS HAITIAN !!!

According to some news papers She speaks only Spanish.. she does not know anything about Haiti
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I can say the same about no knowing English when ever I find it convenient.

Ecuadorians speack Spanish and that does not make them Dominicans !!


This is not about language this is about law.

Citizenship is a legals matter, and there are requirements for Dominican citizenship.

Requirements for which she does not qualify !

Born of illegal parents precludes you of Dominican citizenship.

Therefore, by the Haitian jus sanguinis, she inherits her parents citizenship.

She is Haitian ofcourse !
Written by: DaveB, 24 Mar 2014 1:06 PM
From: United States
This was nothing but a hate-filled, sympathy seeking PR stunt on the part of the US State Department. This was shameful and hugely inappropriate. If she got a visa to the US that identified her as Dominican, and if her cedula was indeed false, some federal hiring preference desk jockey needs to be kicked to the street immediately. If this was a shallow attempt to embarrass the Dominican government sovereignty in front of the world, them I am once more embarrassed by my own government.
Written by: tambora, 24 Mar 2014 1:10 PM
From: United States, Sentencia TC/0168/13 Stands Unrevoked One Year Later! 9/23/2013


This does seem like a publicity stunt as Ms. Deguis Pierre apparently did not file a proper application to get a Dominican passport. And she showed up with lawyers and TV cameras.
Written by: Gomezmedia, 24 Mar 2014 2:31 PM
From: United States

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the reason Ms. Deguis Pierre failed to apply for a Dominican passport is because she's denied a birth certificate, which is needed to apply for such a passport.

Why was she denied a birth certificate under a 1929 law that evades international scrutiny? You can pass a law that declares all humans to be monkeys. Does that mean humans are monkeys?

Again, in today's globalized world, nations can on longer hide behind sovereignty to enact racist laws without facing serious consequences: boycotts, sanctions, economic deprivation, trade cut-off, visa restrictions on government officials, etc.
Written by: tambora, 24 Mar 2014 2:34 PM
From: United States, Sentencia TC/0168/13 Stands Unrevoked One Year Later! 9/23/2013


@Gomezmedia

The article I cited to says she showed up with a copy of her birth certificate and the US visa.
Written by: tambora, 24 Mar 2014 2:36 PM
From: United States, Sentencia TC/0168/13 Stands Unrevoked One Year Later! 9/23/2013


@Gomezmedia

The Dominican law is not retroactive.

As for racists laws, do you realize Haiti had a law on its books that only gave Haitian citizenship if a child was black. But white children could not be Haitian citizens.
Written by: anthonyC, 24 Mar 2014 3:20 PM
From: United States
Tupapitsito.


I am a US citizen born and raised.

Written by: TuPapaupa2014, 24 Mar 2014 3:29 PM
From: United States, (((((roketa + blue105 + borderwall = SAME POSTER..BUSTED!!!. JAJAJAJAJA!)))))
Written by: anthonyC, 24 Mar 2014 3:20 PM
From: United States
Tupapitsito.


I am a US citizen born and raised.
=======================================

Just hope to God the US doesn't revoke your parent's Political Asylum status. JAJAJAJAJAJAJA.

Written by: rokete, 24 Mar 2014 3:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic, (((( DEPORT THE HAITIANS, BUILD THE BORDER WALL !! ))))
Written by: Gomezmedia, 24 Mar 2014 2:31 PM
From: United States

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the reason Ms. Deguis Pierre failed to apply for a Dominican passport is because she's denied a birth certificate, which is needed to apply for such a passport.

Why was she denied a birth certificate under a 1929 law that evades international scrutiny? You can pass a law that declares all humans to be monkeys. Does that mean humans are monkeys?

Again, in today's globalized world, nations can on longer hide behind sovereignty to enact racist laws without facing serious consequences: boycotts, sanctions, economic deprivation, trade cut-off, visa restrictions on government officials, etc.
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She cannot get Dominican birth certificate, nor passport because she Haitian !



WE THE DOMINICAN PEOPLE ARE MORE UNITED THAN EVER,

AND WE ARE NOT AFRAID SANCTIONS !


CUBA HAS SURVIVED 50 YEARS OF SANCTIOS !

WE PRODUCE MORE FOOD THAN CUBA, WE WILL SURVIVE !!!
Written by: Vivacuba, 24 Mar 2014 6:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic
expel all us officials form the dr territory immediately. deport washington criminals.
Written by: PatDiamond, 25 Mar 2014 2:09 AM
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
As for Racist laws do you realize Haiti had a law on its books that only gave Haitian citizenship if only the child was back.
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Mind tell me how all my friends who are second generation Syrians and Lebanese born in Haiti have Haitian passports? If you wish to educate your self in regard of Haitian history Haiti the aftershock of history is def a good primer .
Written by: Vivacuba, 25 Mar 2014 5:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic
leave usa leave usa oust all usa criminals
Written by: bienamor, 26 Mar 2014 6:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
I has been my experience that a US visa is attached to the passport in the area reserved for visa's. If she had no passport where did the US Consulate attach the Visa? Did they clip it to her handbag? This has politics written all over it.
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