Herr Doktor Johann .. this is not much .. but still better than nothing .. but is the problem in Haiti just agriculture? roads? schools? .. how are they going to stop the brain drain that is bleeding Haiti of it's most important resource? .. it's people .. it's human labor .. development depends mainly on human labor .. the most important factor of production in a commodity producing society. Jawohl Herr Doktor?

Stabilize and then Tourism is their only hope...unless they discover oil

I'm wondering how "Haitians" are going to react to this news since They always talking trash about Spain, same way when They try to kill, assasinate and destroy Leonel Fernandez few years ago.

Ver y positive news but once again what will be Their conspiracy or hateful opinions regarding this Spanish donation.

I'm wondering how "Haitians" are going to react to this news since They always talking trash about Spain, same way when They try to kill, assasinate and destroy Leonel Fernandez few years ago.

Ver y positive news but once again what will be Their conspiracy or hateful opinions regarding this Spanish donation.

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Written by: gouletcolonial, 10 Aug 2008 6:31 AM
From: Canada
Stabilize and then Tourism is their only hope...unless they discover oil
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Glout why Spain ? when France offer assistance it always been chop change like 4 millions ect...I think we should strike a deal with Spain and make our offical language Spanish instead of French perhaps they can up the assistance to 1 billion.

The French sucks...I need a frog

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Written by: JRRubirosa, 10 Aug 2008 8:04 AM
From: United States
I'm wondering how "Haitians" are going to react to this news since They always talking trash about Spain, same way when They try to kill, assasinate and destroy Leonel Fernandez few years ago.

Ver y positive news but once again what will be Their conspiracy or hateful opinions regarding this Spanish donation.
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Another confused statement, ( Leonel = Spain ) I do not see the relationship ? Please educate the forum.

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Written by: gouletcolonial, 10 Aug 2008 6:31 AM
From: Canada
Stabilize and then Tourism is their only hope...unless they discover oil
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This is our secret weapon (robado style.... rumble in the jungle) we are waiting for the price of oil to go over $300 a barrel first.

SPAIN trying to expand over the best side. 100mil. lol. chump change.I can understand after dealing with a whole bunch of incompetent fools over on the other side they are finally seen the light.

Question to ask yourselves Now that Spain is willing to invest 100mil in Haiti How much has France invested in DR?

room1804
I'm wondering where people like you adjust common sense on your little dwarf brain

antonioj:
Spain and Leonel fernandez comparison is because both of them try to do something to help your country and at the end Haitian payback won't be grateful Or civilized.

That's human gratitude for you .. you give a guy a book .. send him to school .. teach him to read .. teach him to write .. and what does he do? .. he eats the teacher.

First of all the Fernandez conflict was at a time when reported lynchings of Haitians and mass repatriations in DR were at an all time high. Naturally the media fed off of this like the hungry sharks they are and therefore the news angered many common folk in Haiti believing the DR to be anti-Haitian. That's what caused the protest in the capital. Second of all just because Spain (or France for that matter) is donating money to Haiti doesn't absolve them of the oppression they caused along with the historical atrocities they committed. My problem with you Rubi is that you consider Spain a "motherland" and although it is surely your right to think so it bothers me that you would consider your colonizer as the "motherland". I along with many Haitians don't have any animosity towards the European countries. However considering them our "motherland"? I don't think so. My motherland is Haiti and if you really were patriotic then yours Rubi should be the Dominican Republic.

I'm grateful of the Spanish donation but I'm not going to worship them because of it. A simply thank you very much will suffice. If Spain were to face DR in volleyball at the Olympics for example would you support Spain? As a matter of fact knowing you off your past posts you probably would..

Hyakick: sorry to be unprofessional but just today find out that Haitians love and enjoy living in misery and are the most stubborn individuals on planet earth.
No wonder why countries don't invest a penny but instead just bother to donate since at the end it will always be a race or pride connotation .
If you guys enjoy your lifestyle then there is no reason to attack or blame others for your lack of accountability on your own failed actions.

Haitians feel everyone owes them something ,they love to play the victim so they will never be grateful to anyone no matter what they do .Their fantasy of greatness clashes with their stark reality creating a sort of national schizophrenia with a French Haughtiness combined with a slaves mentality of low self esteem which forces them to constantly scream to the world that Haiti is a great place though nobody in the world thinks so.

Any money invested in Haiti is money wasted because they lack the most basic of ingredients for progress...human capital! Haiti lost the only people who could run a country the moment they became independent just like Zimbabwe in modern times Haiti loves talking about freedom when they cannot even feed themselves and are wards of the world community to survive ...what proud and pompous creatures they are!

Pepe

La meprise vaut mieux que la reponse, ignore ce petit con provateur.

Pepe32
"Haitians feel everyone owes them something ,they love to play the victim so they will never be grateful to anyone no matter what they do .Their fantasy of greatness clashes with their stark reality creating a sort of national schizophrenia with a French Haughtiness combined with a slaves mentality of low self esteem which forces them to constantly scream to the world that Haiti is a great place though nobody in the world thinks so."

What the... are you talking about? You using that as a blank statement for all Haitians if any (stomach acid churning and boiling) is sick. I don't think anyone owes me anything. When I saw the headline of this article in the index of the homepage I was grateful and appreciative I could also see these responses springing up as well. No Haitian would give you or anyone else the pleasure of bowing their head down and not taking pride in their nationality and origins no matter how unfortunate the circumstance.

I concur with the statement above!

Fantastic post Pepe32. I feel the emotion coming out of those words. What would make it even better is if you say that to a real Haitian in his/her face.

Being Haitians means not to ever bow down to anyone even after eminent defeat, poverty, pestilence etc.... This is what you Dominicans can't understand it doesn't matter if we were the poorest nation in the world we will always keep our head up high and wave that flag like it was the greatest flag in the world. Wait a minute our flag is the greatest flag in the world.

If you see someone already down don't go kicking them on top of that. Let us speak for ourselves, watch for our response. Stop throwing dirt on a people that are struggling and feel forgotten. Never try to crush a man's dignity, that 's something we all have in common- no matter what societal issues or stability.
I agree with you Pepe that they do need "human capital" but that cannot happen as easily as it can roll out of anyone's mouth. So many have so many solutions- the HOW seems to be the problem. Oh and lets not forgot actual implementation. Its not so fácil, eh?!

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jemesouviens1804, 10 Aug 2008 5:29 PM
From: United States, Spring Valley, NY
Fantastic post Pepe32. I feel the emotion coming out of those words. What would make it even better is if you say that to a real Haitian in his/her face.
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I do not think it's a good idea “jeme”, unless he wants to be treated the same as these 2 Haitians cops. It's easy to generalize, and make dumbfounded statement when the sole goals is to provoke and stir up controversy, coward tend to like the anonymity that cyberspace offer. Let’s not fall for that “petit mulattre de rue”.

Truth is painful when it hits reality.

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JRRubirosa, 10 Aug 2008 7:02 PM
From: United States
Truth is painful when it hits reality.
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I utterly concur with you and this is for everyone, by the way is this the best he can do ? Rubi you need to get reinforcement, this fail dissertation does not worth the paper that is written on, besides having taking months to rehearse.
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La verdad duele..... lo triste es que si no corrigen sus errores seguirán en las mismas (o peor) cosa que no nos afectaría si no tuviésemos la maldición de tenerlos como vecinos.

Antonio eres un semi-analfabeto pero me apiadaré de ti y te daré unas clases como las que te di en Español hace un tiempo.

"Rubi you need to get reinforcement, this fail dissertation does not worth the paper that is written on, besides having taking months to rehearse."

Get REINFORMENTS ........................................ not reinforcement
FAILED dissertation............................................not fail dissertation
IS not worth the paper it is written on...............not does not worth the paper...
Besides having TAKEN......................................not besides having taking

Un tipejo con cara de borracho ,anti-Dominicano,hipócrita y un ignorante que se atreve a corregir gente muy sobre su nivel.Sus guerras con los Dominicanos lo tienen loco ya que vive en foros y temas DOMINICANOS.

En este foro viene como oveja mansa como todo piti,pero detrás de esa falsedad hay un dessalines y cualquiera de los cerdos que ellos glorían.

If you see someone already down don't go kicking them on top of that. Let us speak for ourselves, watch for our response. Stop throwing dirt on a people that are struggling and feel forgotten. Never try to crush a man's dignity, that 's something we all have in common- no matter what societal issues or stability.
I agree with you Pepe that they do need "human capital" but that cannot happen as easily as it can roll out of anyone's mouth. So many have so many solutions- the HOW seems to be the problem. Oh and lets not forgot actual implementation. Its not so fácil, eh?!

When you and your compatriots "live in Dominican forums and you bite the hand that feeds you then you prove yourselves undeserving as a nation ,now your compatriots come talking about pride but you live off of the crumbs of others so your excessive pride demontrates either stupidity or insanity.

Your compatriots have proven to me that there is very little hope for Haiti because the very few Haitians that could mak

Make a difference are either killed or chased away by the savage majority in the same way the French were either killed or driven away to create a nation "filled with pride yet with empty stomachs"

Your pride is driven from ego and it is ludicrous to be so proud when the greatness of Haiti is only in your brainwashed minds.

Pepe

Get REINFORMENTS ........................................ not reinforcement
FAILED dissertation............................................not fail dissertation
IS not worth the paper it is written on...............not does not worth the paper...
Besides having TAKEN......................................not besides having taking

Uh Pepe its "Get ReinforCements" not "Get Reinforments". Just in case you don't see the difference I highlighted the "C" for your personal knowledge. Next time you correct someone's grammar how bout you check yours first just for good measure? Plus your fellow compatriot Rubi isn't well-versed himself so no need for the correction antics.

Pepe: The greatness of Haiti isn't in our minds it is documented throughout the world by historians the world over. It is truth. Yes in the present day we're a really messed up country filled with problems but none of that takes away our historical significance which will live with us and the rest of the world forever. Whether or not you realize and accept Haitian historical importance is up to you but please don't be blind enough to state that it is in our "ego". You may say we're ungrateful and yadda this and yadda that and even if what you say is true it doesn't matter much to me because history is history and we've accomplished much in our long history and I'll always be proud of that. Peace onto you buddy.

Anything else Pepito aka = Greenwave. I have a feeling that you were looking to debate something, however it appears to me that you have chosen the low road express instead. Unfortunately you have the undeniable rights to be a clown and a fool.

I will not teach you English, or waist my time rebutting your idiosyncrasies. I would perhaps suggest you to get an EDUCATION, look for some psychological help, that you badly needed at the nearest hospital, and make sure you keep taking your medications as prescribed. This is a friendly advice.


Adios

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When you and your compatriots "live in Dominican forums and you bite the hand that feeds you then you prove yourselves undeserving as a nation ,now your compatriots come talking about pride but you live off of the crumbs of others so your excessive pride demontrates either stupidity or insanity.

Your compatriots have proven to me that there is very little hope for Haiti because the very few Haitians that could mak
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Pepe32 aka Greenwave you do not make any sense at all, can you perhaps rephrase, what is your point? You came out nonchalant, and saber-rattling at me. If you are serious about debating something let’s do it, but so far your behaviors have been childish, and absurd to the highest degree.

Why are you waisting you time Antonioj. Dont you know he cant post nothing without mentioning Haiti/Haitians. He does this just to make us get mad and start an argument with him. Thats how most of them do it. "Ou met kite kaka sa pale".

this is Dominican today my hente not Haiti today if u hatian don't like Dominicans GO back to ur damn side allready

jose_NYC
"this is Dominican today my hente not Haiti today if u hatian don't like Dominicans GO back to ur damn side allready "

You really think it would be that easy eh, Jose? No, no, no, take a look at your browser and learn to realize what "www" means. To stand up for yourself anywhere and everywhere is mine, yours, and everyones inalienable right. Just as you have a right to respond so do I. Thank God, I'm smart enough to realize not all Dominicanos carry around such hatred for Haitians. They may not like our situation (I don't as well) and its impact on them (again I don't as well), but their dignity cannot be forgetten or taken away. We are people as well. With the same muscle in our chest beating the same liquid throughtout our bodies. Yet there is something that unites us even more and it is our dignity. It can't be spat on, stepped or discarded.

Jose, if you look at my posts thoroughout this forum any negation I might have (if any) for dominicanos pales..in comparison to what others have said. I can't click and close this page to see this desecration of an already broken people go on. Necesito decir algo. I can't wak away from it como eso.

What's going on in here. Why are we wasting time with disgruntled dominicans that always defame Haiti. Pepe you talk as if DR is some advanced country where the majority of dominicans live in luxury towers. Take a walk by the USA consulate on Gomez to see the long line of dominicans petitioning for a visa or standing their with their gullable gringo waiting to get a marriage visa. Let's not get into the thousands that take into a shark infested water on a yola trying to leave DR. The only sense for these type of dominicans to feel good is to put down someone else meanwhile your on the same boat. Stick to the topic at hand. This is indeed a dominican forum but it doesn't mean you can talk out your a$$ about another nation that is vital to you and most important your neighbour. As we speak your government is protecting Caribe Tour from mobsters upset that this route which is a money is going to get another competitor. You idiots love to hate haitians but don't know the

importance that this community has been to the DR. Talking about the hands that feed you. Actually it's the other way around if illegal haitians leave whose going to do the agricultural work dominicans from the diaspora? What's all this about? Many here have insulted our forefathers and none of us have disrespected yours. I mean if you guys are so tuff just make a meeting with the posters so you can tell them these things face to face. Meanwhile illegal immigrants from other countries have turned DR into a narcotraffic haven which you idiots see as investors while the average dominican still suffer and will never live in one of these towers. Please stop trying to please these idiot dominicans there are others here you are respectful and despite our differences know that the only way to progress is mutual respect. These are the dominicans who mostly are victims of their own government looking for a relief from their misfortune and use the Haitian as a scapegoat.

Bottom line is that Haitians hate Dominican Republic, Spain and France and suffer from a delusional mental pride from 2 centuries old.

Your government is protecting Caribe Tour to escort legal haitians and others who want to travel to Cap Haitien from DR. Your government has realize the importance of the haitian immigrants in the DR economy and has made alot of people richer too bad this money is trickled to disgruntled dominicans like yourselves that are from the barrios and only outlet of relief is to attack the character of Haitians. These type of dominicans are why their country is stereotype as some backward island where women are easy and men will sell you their mother for a buck. Let's focus on the well mannered dominicans that have character and realise being dominicans doesn't mean despising their neighbour. Juan Bosch one of their greatest intellectual lived in Haiti and has wrote about their love and hate relationship between the two countries. One of his brother was born in Haiti. You guys don't realise how important we are to each other and should treat each other with more respect and compassion.

Rubi it's just that we dont like to mamar others as much as you do. Get off your knees and you'll realise that too. This is not about hatred. We appreciate the gesture but I will wait and see what happens. Do you think spaniards see you as their children? This is a great gesture and I hope that they invest in the country and allow the people to benefit although they are there for making money. The question is why so many dominicans hate Haitians when we should try to reach a common ground.

It shows that some people can't stop living in the XIX century, jabao. I've been busy trying to show Rubi that for every gesture that the spaniards do for our country there must be a Fenosa or two lurking on the dark, waiting to make the scam. There are no worse blind than those which refuse to see the truth in front of their faces.

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Written by: Pepe32, 10 Aug 2008 10:18 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Antonio eres un semi-analfabeto pero me apiadaré de ti y te daré unas clases como las que te di en Español hace un tiempo.
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I notice the best you have done so far, was to point out a few typos. Interestingly enough you are guilty of the same, however if this empower your egoistic, uppity self-esteem to focus on semantics rather than on a respectable debate, suit yourself. You have been warned! the only one you have impressed so far is Rubi.

Lautaro it really breaks my heart to see two nations that have so much potential to be better respectively go so low to focus solely on the negatives that obviously neither can't deny. I am so tired of this back and forth of our people as if we started this mess and worse people that hasn't evolved. It is sad to see young dominicans and haitians along in the diaspora stuck in the past and don't realise the circumstances and most of all healing. This haitian/dominican thing is like a soar that they keep itching while blaming the other. Only if we can overcome these issues and evolve. How can someone be in the most advanced country and be so dumb. I mean if they were in the DR I can say ese tipo falta los recursos and is a product of his/her environment but those that go to free public schools and get financial aid to go to universities still have this backward mentality. Lautaro sorry for not responding to you about the salary but I feel not enough dominicans on here know

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Written by: JRRubirosa, 11 Aug 2008 10:11 AM
From: United States
Bottom line is that Haitians hate Dominican Republic, Spain and France and suffer from a delusional mental pride from 2 centuries old
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Rubi what on earth are you talking about? Where are you getting your facts or is this what you chose to believe, please do not confuse fantasy and reality. Now who is delusional? May be you should consult your Bonobo Pepe32 the spin master.

the struggles of every day life in teh DR rather jump off the plane to rent a yipeta and say wow..this country has evolved with all the towers which is by the so called investors. I hope things get better for the two countries. Caribe Tour has alot of cajones to go agains the dajabon mafiosos that are making a killing transporting illegal haitians as well as documented haitians back and forth. They are not going without a fight. I would never take that route to DR via the north. Flights to haiti is packed which travels twice a day full of haitians and dominicans with money to afford that trip. While the poor of both country not can scrape 15 pesos to catch a publico. The flights have become so lucrative that other airlines are joining the competition. Imagine that a poor as country like the DR/Haiti have flights over 200 us for flying to the same island. Alot of funny things are going on. Border security is getting better though but the propinas are just higher..

The worst thing about it all, jabao, is that people like them are the ones making it easy for scum like the international thugs which were recently slain on Bani to come and do as they please with the country, because, for those rednecks, the international thugs are "investors" and "upright citizens" which must be pleased at all cost or all hell might break loose.

Lautaro: love and admire your double standard opinions without personality or character always following your master like a well trained pet. Also FYI there is a pro-Haitian protest this week in front of the Dominican consulate in NY in case You want to join.

So I guess this anti-Dominican demonstration is something good for the Dominican goverment to continue to bend rules and regulations to please international comunnity and Haitians.

Lauraro since you dislike so much So much Spain do yourself a wikipedia favor going to the banco central to research statistics about Spain investment and donations to the Dominican Republic.
I base my opinions and thinking on business data perspective not on unfounded and baseless non sense racist allegations.
Whether You agree with me or your master is fine with me because you lack character and by the way always believe that your Haitian heritage is blocking your common sense.

Rubi, if you are direct descendant of spaniards why don't you get your spanish citizenship which the inheritly give if you have sufficient evidence. Why are you in the USA and how did you get there? Were you brought over because of your scholastic achievements? This is not about hating spaniards nor defaming the DR which I am vehemently against. I will go along with you to the protest and veer them towards my own consulate or france's consulate. I mean every time someone that is dominican agree with the facts you call them a "haitian". If that's the case Trujillo was the biggest haitian that massacred his own people or maybe he along with you are direct descendants of spaniards. So stop your yappin and let's go to the protest together to stop the defamation of dominicans that is NOT a slaving haitians. You heard it here from a haitian national..Picture you going to spaniard consulate asking for spanish citizenship. They would laugh at you and hand you a broom and dust pan. jajaj..

jabaoHaitian:
I will leave my answer to your imagination regarding my nationality, once again for you and your puppy (lautaro) research statistics before talking bs.
Whether you, Haitians and mr zero personality hate Spain "who cares" as long as we get investments and donations since at the end your opinions are only productive for haiti, we only need Spain support no from your country .

Time to be civilized and think from a business perspective no like cavemen.

For your info, mr. spaniard-wannabe, the most important players in the DR´s international trade are the US (which amount to aprox. 80% of what the Republic imports) and Haiti (the only country with which the trade balance is actually favouring us), after that, it comes the trade with the Caricom islands, Taiwan, Venezuela, and then, only after those, then it comes your dear "madre patria" (LMAO), so it's you the one needing to do the reality check, siervo.

JRRubirosa
"Bottom line is that Haitians hate Dominican Republic,"

Speak for someone else Rubi-boobi, I'm not hater like you. Realmente, for what its worth, I like the DR and have never said otherwise. Sorpresa?!

Iautaro: thanks for your misinformed input and do some research , if you don't know the answer please refrain from talking c..p

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Written by: JRRubirosa, 11 Aug 2008 6:25 PM
From: United States
Iautaro: thanks for your misinformed input and do some research , if you don't know the answer please refrain from talking c..p
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Rubi stop being silly, do you really think you can take on someone of Lautaro’s caliber? Give me a break. It’s clear now, why you are reputed to be the laughing-stock in this forum.

antonioj: really?
Why lautaro is respected because He is the Haitian puppy besides he is just a truth procastinator that preach made up wikipedia facts.
He didn't reply in a knowledgable and professional way but like a dysfunctional individual following the same sickening, racist and retarded caveman agenda.
Where in the heck he gets statistics from??

Plus antonioj what have your group prove yet that could be proactive, look at the big picture and instead of trying to demonize me and try to dictate guidelines to Dominicans in general last time I checked you guys were the united nations and ONU headache not us.

I'm starting to believe that Rubi wants to be Haitian deep down in his heart he wants to brag out how great his country is but he can't because his Dominican Republic had not accomplished anything of magnitude ever since it was created to be recognized by the international community. As for us Haitians we started the liberation of slaves and Freedom for all that's what we did. and according to the rest of the world that is a good thing the question is what has the Dominican's done?

NOTHING, NADA, RIEN, ANYEN.

Another reason why Haitians are better than Dominicans is....... most of us Haitians can effectively communicate in more than two languages. While most other nations are stuck in the bilingual dilemma we Haitians are in third gear heading for fourth NOW THAT'S GREATNESS.

In other words YES! I AM BETTER THAN YOU RUBI.

What about you, Rubi? Don't you ever tire of being the spaniards' lackey all the time? Here's a report for you to read: http://www.cedopex.gov.do/estudio....tradicionales_enero-mayo_2008.pdf

See? your wiki accusation is totally useless and groundless (as with the rest of your stupid remarks), and guess what? the report says that the US and Haiti are way more important in the trade balance of the DR than your "madre patria" (a silly concept if there ever was one), so, please, stop making yourself look like an utter simpleton, because you're embarrasing the good name of the dominican diaspora every time you open that useless mouth of yours.

With regard to your hateful, thoughtless and insidious comments, my parents always say that it is not every dog that barks that one turns around and pay attention to, another word we have to ignore ignorants like you.

With regard to Spain’s $100M donation to Haiti, we are certainly thankful and grateful, but one has to remember that “grand Haiti” or Hispaniola or St. Domingue, as the Spaniards as the Frenchs once called it, was the richest colony for either of those colonizers in 17th, 18th and 19th century, we helped made them what they have become. So I think it’s about time they return a little of what they took from us. If you see this comment as ungrateful, so be it, but it is a fact.

JRRubirosa, Pepe32:

With regard to your hateful, thoughtless and insidious comments, my parents always say that it is not every dog that barks that one turns around and pay attention to, another word we have to ignore ignorants like you.

With regard to Spain’s $100M donation to Haiti, we are certainly thankful and grateful, but one has to remember that “grand Haiti” or Hispaniola or St. Domingue, as the Spaniards as the Frenchs once called it, was the richest colony for either of those colonizers in 17th, 18th and 19th century, we helped made them what they have become. So I think it’s about time they return a little of what they took from us. If you see this comment as ungrateful, so be it, but it is a fact.

Lautaro, Rubi and others here are confirming the stereotypes that the dominican diaspora are still backwards or more from when they left the island but with a NYC ghetto mindset. I deeply apologise to the good dominicans in the diaspora who have used their opportunity to better themselves and succeed where it wouldn't of been possible if they were in the DR. Rubi, if you lived down here are stop chasing that barrio chick you would realise that Lautaro is telling you the truth. I have never seen an individual like you sucking on the spaniards d__ so much. As I said if you are there descendants walk to the nearest spanish consulate and demand what is rightfully yours. Imagine Rubi walking in there telling the spaniards that he is there descendant while the spaniards are wondering why this big nose thick lip mulatto is joking around and tell him the truth. Rubi do you have a spanish flag on your rear mirror rather than the dominican flag in the Hgts blasting bachata?

Rubi you don't care about the truth. I offered you my companionship to the protest and inform them that DR isn't enslaving haitians. BTW, the great from the dominican diaspora Junot Diaz participated in the protest. Is he haitian according to you because he is confronting the dominican elite and mindset. I dare you bash one of the dominican diaspora that has given dominicans hope reading and excelling in literature which is badly needed. Lautaro you heard this guy was at Carol Morgan telling it how it is while the yipeta gucci wearing snobbish women were uncomfortable with one of the diaspora calling them out and they can't do sh8t about it. Jajjaja..Also why is the dominican government escorting Caribe Tour with army CESFRONT all the way to frontier protecting them from mobsters upset that this will kill there business of transporting haitians whether legal or illegal from DR to Haiti and vice versa. Damn dominicans upset because their haitian route is getting competition. Irony

Next thing we know, jabao, he'd be claimming being a descendant of the Bourbon royal family. Now that would certainly be one for the archives. LOL

The truth of the matter is someday the Dominican Republic will reunite with its mommy HAITI once again and sadly HAITI will be the one on top. For the simple fact Dominicans are too arrogant. Their sense of superiority will fail them in the long run. The current progress they are making at the moment they haven't invested one dime in Haiti...Sure Haiti has cheap labor but they want the Haitians to come to them still and that is a mistake while the Haitian elite is not limited on the Island so some day when Haiti has acquired enough wealth they will dominate the island once Haiti.

Your sense of superiority will be your down fall Dominicans. Trust me. I personally have the same problem.

Of course we understand, rom. You and Rubi are too thick headed for your own good. Both of you are perfectly made for each other, in fact, you two could write a theatrical piece, which should run by the name "Foolish delusions: A selection from two hispaniolan expatriates". Trust me, it would be a smash hit. LMAO

On a more serious tone, you two represent the worst that our island have to offer to the rest of the world: the twin engines of destruction called White Supremacy and Black Extremism, this last most commonly known as Noirism. I don't know if to feel amused, sorry or angry by your constant, useless, and trashy drivel.

LOL you can't compare me to that lunatic. That's simply not fair Rubi worships the Spaniards as to Mr. Rom I bow down to no one. I have no equal. Am I flooded with blind delusional pride as Rubi put it "MAYBE" but unlike RUBI I have something to be proud of. Excuse me if I say My country kicked butt a few centuries ago and I have to make sure I remind every one of that once in a while. China was once a great Empire the fell now they are back on their feet only because they remember how and what they are and I never let other more powerful country intimidate me "Haiti" nor be little me because I "Haiti" know for a fact someday I "Haiti" will be back on top again. Like my good old friend Frank Sin. used to say That's life You might be on top in April and shut back down in May but its not over until its over.

The kid stays in the picture you know. Ultimately my dream is to one day see Haiti and the Dominicans reunite and kick butt together but unfortunately there are people like Rubi that are working hard to prevent that from happening and I have to be there to vanquish them every time and I can't do that by being Mr. Nice guy. I'm sure that you are aware of what is going on in Russia today Mother Russia wants its kids back they are living the old glory days at the current moment killing and ramping little Georgia now imagine some nut job from France or Spain decided to live their old glory days once again and if there's no Haiti to stop them do you see what I'm getting at?

Don't rely on the US of Fing A because Georgia is one of the strongest allies to the USA in the region and they are powerless to help them right now All bush has been able to do or say is "Russia stop, from many, many miles away.

Let's build our countries so that doesn't happen to us. Together we can protect the w

Together we can protect the UN-WHITE WORLD <--I doubt that's even a word but anyway...
The bloodline of the Strongest warriors from mother Africa flows through our veins if its not us then Who? but we need the support of the Dominicans. I'm old and tired Lautaro and sooner or later I will be dying but besides acquiring wealth I want to leave my children with more than money I want to start living the 1.000 years of peace now. I want to die knowing that HEY! for the next 1.000 years there will be peace.

This is why I fight. Sometimes you have to break an egg to make an omelet. If I have to run over 1.000 little Rubis to get to that peace period so be it.

I wasn't aware that you were an old man, it actually explains a lot. Now that we´re on this, might as well ask you a question: Did you get to know the celebrated historian Jean Price-Mars and Duvalier Sr.?

Another reason why Haitians are better than Dominicans is....... most of us Haitians can effectively communicate in more than two languages. While most other nations are stuck in the bilingual dilemma we Haitians are in third gear heading for fourth NOW THAT'S GREATNESS.

In other words YES! I AM BETTER THAN YOU RUBI.


A nation were most people are illiterate and the majority only speak a pseudo language although they know a couple of words in English ,Spanish or French does not make Haitians multilingual,until Haitians develop some humility and look in the mirror they will not learn because they fantasize of greatness while most of their population is backwards in all the important indicators.

The emperor wears no clothes but he thinks he looks great!

Pepe32

PEPE YOU FOOL. The Haitians that are in the bateyes in DR whom DR Claimed that they are Haitians what language do the speak? Spanish. Of course they are illiterate but that doesn't they don't speak the bloody language. The other part of Haiti they speak mainly Creole. and then you have the middle class and the Elites who speaks all for languages now when you combined the middle class the diaspora and the middle class it makes up for the percentage of Creole speaking majority thus Haiti is the best multilingual language in the world.

PEPE I'm better than you....because any Haitian

Zimbabwe another example of a failed state where the only people who knew how to run a country were expelled or killed making an agricultural exporter a nation of starving masses!

I can see by your writing in English what you call speaking multiple languages and in your haughtiness a sad picture of a backwards people who delude themselves into a false sense of greatness when the world is collapsing around them.

If you feel better than me without knowing me or anything about me that is your problem but in the context of general Haitian attitudes it doesn't surprise me.

I used to pity you but now I realize you don't deserve any such sentiments.

Pepe

I don't have to know you Pepe......I already know that I am better.... You are Dominican and I'm Haitian.

room 1804 if you haitians were beyyer than Dominicans. WHY are your childrens and your Mother,and your sisters BEGGIN for money in Santiago,Moca,Sto Dmingo,....in Kreyol Beyyer means WORST.You should have picked any Country better than ZImbawe, because any time that you expell the white POPULATION from any Black Country or you KILL all the whites THE BRAIN DRAIN IS INEVITABLE,like Ayiti and ZIMb.

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Written by: carbelk99, 14 Aug 2008 12:21 AM
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room 1804 if you haitians were beyyer than Dominicans. WHY are your childrens and your Mother,and your sisters BEGGIN for money in Santiago,Moca,Sto Dmingo,....in Kreyol Beyyer means WORST.You should have picked any Country better than ZImbawe, because any time that you expell the white POPULATION from any Black Country or you KILL all the whites THE BRAIN DRAIN IS INEVITABLE,like Ayiti and ZIMb.
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Lol I am hook on phonics

talia let me make this clear I do not dislike hatians I believe in freedom and diplomacy, my comments agianst hatians might sound racist but honestly I'm not. When I visit the DR I look out for hatians, I realize that they are a very important work force in the DR. My only problem is when you guys start posting negative info about the DR and blame us for your failure you seem like a smart poster so I apologize to u, but there are others that i just have to keep reminding tthat for good or bad DR is one of the few countries that actually helps Haiti and their ****ed up economic system so please to those of u hating ppls don't bite the hand that feed u

Jose how do you feed me.... We haitians we FEED YOU. MF. Your chicken and egg business went bankrupt in less than a month when we Haitians decided not to buy your products. So who's feeding who? If Haitians don't by your products some Dominican families would just swim over to PR. MEss with us again we will put an embargo to all your products and see what Happens......

See you're the type I'm talking about rom1802, go ahead embargo all u want and then we'll see who's going to starv and then again please don't it hurt to see good Haitians eating dirt cookies you ignorant. This have to be mutual, work together not blame each other

jose I'm sorry you have to deal with the likes of rom but he seems to be troubled much the same way carbelk99 and others seem to be troubled. Those posters are deemed provocateurs and all they contribute to the forum is perpetual verbal backlash from one group of posters to another. I certainly hope you can ignore those posters in order to seek meaningful debate and insight with more rational and well-informed posters on this site which abound in number. I am not one of those Haitian posters and I hope you are not one of those Dominican posters so I'd like it if we can just put the worst of what our countries have to offer behind us. Debate is actually a good thing when done in an objective and intelligent manner.

I accept your apology Jose and its okay. I understand why the conversation always takes that route. But I just hope you're not using that phrase "don't bite the hands that feed you" as some backward comment. There are Haitians who do work legally in the DR and there are those cane cutting por at least uno peso. So some that are being fed are also working to be fed.

Haitians that hate so much the "whites" spaniards, look at that. They are giving your racist country $100 million Euro's. I hope you put that money for a positive endeveaor, instead of stealing and filling the pockets of your dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty politicians. Did i say DIRTY enough!!!!!

arkatype I think the question you should be asking yourself is "did I stir up enough drama on the boards again?" I'm not hating, not have I ever hated them. You can't be speaking for every living, breathing, haitian God created, right compadre? Te amo. (yes, its true, como una haitiana I love all mis hermanos dominicanos y todas personas) paz!

i think they wat to build hotels there tooo