Lets get ready to RUMBLE!

josie go ahead I allow you to throw the first piedra on behalf of your people. :)

el corta trees will start first

The book titled "Haitians & Dominicans-What's the Beef" will be in a bookstore near you soon, or on the internet.

- A comprehensive book, or maybe the last chance for Haitians and Dominicans to come to terms with their past.

- A book that will push Haitians and Dominicans to meditate on the future of the island. An Island that managed to survive slavery introduced by Spain. An island that also experienced wars, invasions, foreign occupation, brutal and ruthless dictatorships.

-A book that explores and asks the question: Are Haitians too afrocentric? or have Dominicans rejected their African ancestry just to embrace their Spanish and Latin American heritage only?

-A book with Haitians and Dominicans input. A book for all Haitians & Dominicans to read

Click on the links below to watch two videos related to the book titled “Haitians & Dominicans – What’s the Beef”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNqZOyhS6Vg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSWY56rmfNk&feature=related

Same_stooges it was Josie turn

If Japan and the USA have a good relationship why can't Dominican and haiti?

Wow this book come straight out of ABC toilet library.
Tthey want us to believe it is DR fault that the haitian population is invading our country. There is no beef from DR side. Never been a beef from us. The Haitians had been the one thru our history that had been invading us REMEMBER. Not once we invaded them. So there is no beef from us.

That’s too much reading for anos!

Same_Struggle I have some questions. What if Haitians and Dominicans don't take that last chance to come to terms with their past, or Haitians don't care if they are too afrocentric, or Dominicans rejected their African ancestry and embraced their Spanish heritage only? Any of those will help Haitians return and stay in Haiti? If they find out that they are to afroncentric will that afford Haiti food, clean water, jobs, education, health care and every other needs they have, so they may stay in their own country, living with dignity? If the answer if not, maybe instead of that book, what they need is real help to produce food and jobs, to stop running from their country to help other countries' economy with their hard, low paid workforce.

If Japan and the USA have a good relationship why can't Dominican and Haiti?

Maybe because Japanese aren't 20% of American population and growing, maybe because Japan is not one the poorest countries in the world, with most of its population illiterate, sick, unskilled, with the highest rate of birth and mostly, because Japan and USA have never been neighbors, so instead of running to USA and everywhere else, the Japanese were force to work and develop Japan.

Atabey I have something better,for those that claimed that trees were not worthy three human lives.

On Environmental Brink, Haiti Scrambles for a Lifeline
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- A hard rain can be deadly here.
A family of four was reported killed late last month when rushing stormwater loosened soil under their hillside house and brought the structure down on them. The denuded slopes around this city of 2 million turn stormwater into lethal torrents. Trees, shrubs and other vegetation that anchor soil and buffer runoff are rare here…They are informal human settlements with very, very weak construction methods, there's nothing to protect them from water flooding down from the hillside…violence done to the environment is haunting Haiti now. Degradation of natural resources here is both a consequence and an amplifier of poverty and disorder. Haiti forests have been overharvested, its marine resources overexploited. -cont-

"The crucial thing, because we're a country facing both an energy security crisis and a food security crisis, is how can we reconcile energy security and food security?" Haiti's greatest challenge by far is deforestation. At the heart of the problem: the demand for charcoal. The country's 10 million residents meet 60 percent of their commercial and residential energy needs with charcoal. It is used in most household cooking but also runs bakeries, laundries, sugar refineries and rum distilleries. Charcoal production is a major factor in the deforestation that experts say has felled 98 percent of Haiti's tree cover, with the remaining 2 percent disappearing fast. Today people are even pulling roots to make charcoal. Read all about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009....bles-for-a-l-56869.html?pagewante

Why is it that josean has never been able to write a complete paragraph to express a complete idea?
The attitude of a rabid instigator !!
And who said that he was deported and is now declared persona non grata in the Dominican Republic.
Lately he has not said anything about Leonel Fernadez , Colbade !!!!
And why you guys keep calling him "josie" ?

Another one of my obsessed fans!

Eat your heart out anos.

Vacanos,

History records Haiti as the country that invaded DR not just once. It's in the book titled "Haitians & Dominicans-What's the beef."

Micaela,
(any Dominican in this forum can answer the questions as well)

The book titled "Haitians & Dominicans-What's the Beef" talks also about exactly what you have stated. The book also exposes both governments' (the Haitian government & the Dominican) failure to solve the issue of Haitians agricultural workers living and working in DR. If I am asking you five questions. Please be honest in your answers.

a) What's the #1 problem of the Dominicans vis-a-vis Haitians in DR (Students, businessperons, Legal and illegal Haitians)?

b) What do you think is the #1 problem of the two goverments (Haitian & Domincan) vis-a-vis each other?

c) Do you favor a free and open trade as it is now between the two countries?

d) Do Dominicans have beef with all Haitians living in or visiting DR, or is it just with illegal Haitian immigrants?

e) Are you still holding grudges against Haitians for invading DR several times, and once occupying DR for 22 years?

Why is it that josean has never been able to write a complete paragraph to express a complete idea?

Josean is what we call "un punchador" ...he loves to jump in fire things up and the like a good pyromaniac watch the fires rage and destroy.

a) the majority of your middle class that somehow still exist,,,go to school in DR
b) the haitian goberment, case and sample the goberment that was remove from power, there is no security overthere and the goberment does not care, in DR we complaint that the politician are corrupt,,but somehow shit get done, most of the time.
c)i would approve to that, provide haiti develop,,,under strict condution, just like the EU, required country to be at certain level before join the union i think DR should upheld such a standard from haiti.
D) haitian that come into DR illegally to brake the law, cut our forest, rape, murder, still,,,,,that is where the beef lie,,,in my personal opinion

E) if you forget your past you are doom to repeat it, 1822 3/4 of Dominican welcome the idea of joining the island, but haiti have no idea how to govermt, case in point 205 year of freedom no effected goberment, i mean you were formal slave with no clue about such thing. it was naive on our parts

a) Illegal, breaking our immigration laws, coming here without papers to later claim being here for years, o being born here, spreading diseases, preventing mechanization, lowering salaries, while sharing our resources, without paying a penny or even saying thank you.

b) No government in Haiti, but a bunch of wise guys dividing the cake among themselves. With Government the Haitians would have, even limited, access to food, clean water, jobs, health care, shelters, safety and basic human rights and dignity. DR, the rampant corruption of our political class, our irresponsible president that cares more for his own image than the people, therefore, refuse to take necessary measures to solve our more pressing problems. The lack of actions of both, regarding the massive illegal Haitian invasion, the deforestation they cause.

c) No, the trade should be controlled. Being free and open, it also opens the door to drug and weapon traffic and of course Haitian illegal immigration

with the pretext to come to sell or buy goods, while allowing DR military to take advantage of the situation.

d) Illegal, unskilled and illiterate Haitians, that take the jobs of our poorest. But basically the beef rests in sheer numbers. They are way to many and more keep coming.

e) No grudges for occupying DR for 22 years, but we have to keep in sight what Haitians are capable to do, how we have lose miles of DR, inclusive whole border towns due to their diligence. Now, I hold a grudge for the present invasion, they are threatening the future of DR. I honesty will be more than happy if we could limit their numbers to those 22 years, even to 60 years ago.

I tell you what's the beef

Haiti is a perennially failed state in witch 1% of the population, mostly white and mulato owns 90% of the country, now the beef originates from the fact that the majority of haitians don't have the testicular fortitude to build and develop their own country and much rather travel east and become slaves of Dominican voulchers.

So in other words what the poor haitians are been doing over the last decade is elbowing their way into the dominican dinner table and at the same time denouncing DR worldwide as a racist nation just because we refuse to surrender the table.

And what makes the beef even worst is the large amount of afro-lambones like josean, same_struggle and the so called haitian intellectuals that have the ballz to write a letter demanding protection and better treatment for haitian illegals in DR soil, witch is ridiculous considering that dogs and people share the same living standards in the once proud nation.

here is your beef

even middle class haitians that come to DR to go to school are under a lot of stress, but not because of racism or the fear of hate crimes

Denle un chekerau a la principal fuente de preocupacion de estudiantes haitianos en RD

http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....s/Noticias.aspx?id_Articulo=26317

weird

I support the 11,000 legal Haitian Immigrant...

is the other 1,989,000 Millions that i don't support

Fuera los afro-lambones.
WE have never invaded that country, on the contrary they had, we should return them the favor
by using our lazy military forces, and also see if those tucanos are good for something.
IM ONLY KIDDING JOSEAN.

Mica, everyone has the right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts.

Atabey, be warned, you'll never be able to break thru, as we say here.