Have the food tested before you eat it!

Its a nice way of doing it - if money is handed out much rum will be bought. Food retailers - in particular supermarkets have been known to hike prices at Xmas with no good reason - come on folks be generous and support the President in this one! Really in many developing countries large social housing programs with the encouragement of allotments / smallholdings is needed together with progress towards green sustainablity.
S.

This a degrading and humiliating act on the part of this president who has wasted billion of dollars on useless projects, corruption , kickbacks and botellas. Now he takes taxpayer money to give “gifts” to the have-nots with their own money!

He is always willing to give fish but never teaches then how to fish, continuing with the cycle of dependency. And for the LIE-onelitas, yeah, yeah, I know other presidents did it too, so what, that still doesn’t make it right especially for the perfect and ultra-modern LIE-onel Fernandez.

See what I mean:

POBREZA

Índices de pobreza registrados entre 2003 y 2004 aún no han sido superados, según informe de SEEPyD

SANTO DOMINGO, República Dominicana.- Un informe de la Secretaría de Estado de Economía, Planificación y Desarrollo (SEEPyD) revela que los incrementos de la pobreza registrados en el período de abril de 2003 a octubre de 2004 “no han sido recuperados hasta la fecha”.

But we had money to build a useless METRO!


http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....s/Noticias.aspx?id_Articulo=26910

Here is the revealing commentary of the article I linked above, they are very good:

4 - Entonces no Epa'lante ná que vamos...¿Dònde està el progreso prometido en casi seis años de gestiòn gubernamental?
Julio Gonzàlez


3 - NO HAY FORMA DE REDUCIR LA POBREZA SI NO SE HA TRABAJADO PARA ESO DE QUERER TRABAJAR EN ESO SE HUBIESE LOGRADO BAJAR POR LO MENOS EL UNA PARTE DEL PORCENTAJE. ES QUE SOLO SE HA TRABAJADO PARA ACABAR CON LA POPBREZA DE LOS POLITICOS Y FUNCIONARIOS CORRUPCTOS QUE SON TODOS EXCEPTO WILTON GUERRERO, AHI PARA ALLA NO SIRVEN NINGUNOS NO HACEN NADA MAS QUE ROBAR AL PUEBLO.
Junny


Continued:

2 - Por eso es que nadie cree las informaciones que da este gobierno, como es posible que hayan dos mediciones diferentes y la diferencia sea de mas de un 7%, ahora ien, si el gobierno fuera de otro partido, estos mismos politicos del gobierno saliran dicen que la pobreza esta por encima de de lo que dice este informe, como podemos creer en estas gentes si desde el gobieno son una cosa y en la oposicion son otras.
Gil


1 - Osea ahora hay mas corrupcion, mas narcotrafico y entonces no hay mas pobreza?....... a otro perro con ese hueso
Ronnie Manson

Feliz Navidad!

Dr. Stangelove did you write this?

A must read for ALL!


http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....ion/Firmas.aspx?Id_Articulo=16440

There must be many families who eagerly wait for these handouts at Christmas time and who could not afford to purchase a bottle of wine for themselves. It may have an air of patronising the less fortunate but why we should,who do not receive this gift, judge the reaction of those who do.
The idea of giving gifts at this time of the year extends to employers who give christmas bonuses and to friends and family members who give gifts now and at Epiphany and it is contained in the bible stories of gifts being brought to our Lord.
Christmas is the time of year for charitable and loving feelings to all mankind as many carols remind us and I hope the recipients of these gifts now can have a better christmas.

Josean note the second part of my posting........
Really in many developing countries large social housing programs with the encouragement of allotments / smallholdings is needed together with progress towards green sustainability.
Now no one wants to fish in the world of capitalist sharks.......
S.

Here is my Chritmas Basket for LIE-onel Fernandez and his admiriring loyal subject of the British crown:

Ningún funcionario está por encima de nuestras leyes

El recién enviado Anteproyecto de Ley de Presupuesto para el año 2010, es un ejemplo de esto, pues de aprobarse violaría leyes en conjunto, por alrededor de RD$59,000.00 millones

Read on:

http://www.clavedigital.com/App_P....ion/Firmas.aspx?Id_Articulo=16420

abc only one basket per person put the other two back you sleezeball

"but why we should,who do not receive this gift, judge the reaction of those who do."


And Ricky who his judging or begrudging the poor for wanting to get was is bought with their own tax pesos?

What I don't like is the hypocrisy and the crocodile tears.

Does LIE-onel Fernandez have the same compassion and concern for the other 364 nights the poor must provide a meal for their children?

What happens after “Noche Buena”, Año Malo that’s what!

josean,

Here's another article by NACLA that you'll love:

A Giant Step Backward: The Dominican Republic Reforms Its Constitution

https://nacla.org/node/6278

"where he will have dinner with a poor family'

Why doesn't LIE-onel Fernandez have dinner with the wife and children of his missing college professor, Narciso González and bring them some news, so they can have some peace, which has been missing from their lives since May 26, 1994.

This family is much poorer in sprit not knowing what happened to their patriarch for more than 15 years!

Atabey,

Thank you for that Holiday Gift my brother!

That is a must read for ALL!


Warning,

Ricky you may not want to eat before you read it! Then again you may loose your appetite after you do!

Well any way, Atabey presents you decide!

And this other one.

Council on Hemispheric Affairs


http://www.coha.org/the-dominican....-pursues-modernity-and-rectitude/

Now your hitting on all eight Atabey, another must read.

I am glad they did not use METROLANDIA as I have copyrights!

Thank you!

What was that? What were they saying....oh yeah that's right ... ¡e' pa fuera que va!

Josean ..you are wrong on my reaction to the constitution and I have written at least 5 times before about it ..I think it is a total disgrace when a constitution that is for all the people of the country has not even been seen by probably 95% of the population ,,not even in an edited form ..and who wants politicians ,who most of us have a poor opinion of. deciding on a constitution that is a comprimise between two political parties after having given a good talking to by the Roman Catholic Church in this country whic hintself has an appalling record of educating it.s people and caring for their welfare.

Josean ..I really do not think you mean much what you write ..you are simply trying to keep a grumpy character part consistent and think that a word of approval is simply lowering your mask ..you know I think it would be a nice idea if you went with Leonel and dispersed good wishes with the gifts to many people. It would be great christmas spirit

If NACLA doesn't like the new constitution it can't be that bad,anyone that thinks that Chavez and his ovine herd is the way to go has my complete opposition.

Josie,let Leonel have peace for Christmas...too much hatred!!

"too much hatred!!"

Your the founder of "Hatred Are US!"

The only place I would accompany LIE-onel Fernandez is to visit Manuel Noriega at his "special Villa", so LIE-onel can stay and spend this Christmas and at least 40 more with Manny!

josean is just mad that leonel isn't a pajaro like him!!!! LOLOLOL josean drink up you angry rant! LOLOLOL

I did the math on this and I know that there is no way they are going to hand out 28 million dollars worth of baskets before christmas, I mean the mil system there is not even that efficient how are they going to supply those baskets to 5 million people in less than a week??

I'm sure they'll spend 5 million and then pocket the rest..

great pr.

I saw the army doing it in Samana. 6 army trucks 3 lines about 30 soldiers per line. Apparently 10 trucks - maybe 100 tons of food. At 20 lbs per parcel 100 parcels per ton - 10,000 people possible with one unit one day. I did some some supply distribution - its remarkably transparent - people can take photographs, you can count the number of parcels distributed per hour. You can ask the odd person to weigh and assess the contents. One of my ex-acquaintances, long dead now, remembered doing this in Germany in the immediate post-war period. A near starving population, long lines, huge difficulties e.g fuel for lorries.
S.

I'm keeping leonel as my presesident..why? Cause others done nothing! No metro, boulevards, tunnel! Houw much petroleum we'll saved with the santo domingo-santiago metro! I live in the us, and here we think ""big"""

"too much hatred!!"

Your the founder of "Hatred Are US!"

Josie is full of love ...for anyone that agrees with him.

Anyhow I thought commies didn't celebrate Christmas..

The USA sent alot of BLOCK CHEESE for the people to eat. How about Presidente giving free beer to the people to drink.

That's right I love my fiends so you can love my enemies pepe, but for you my confused brother I will make an exception ad love you too! Feliz Navidad!

MIRABUENO,

I don't mind the insults as longs they are creative and funny, both of which you fail at miserably!

abc, did you see the US army in the Hummer H1's in Samana??? Cool...

josean,
he will deliver it to your house

xw you mean the US are so hated all over the World including the outer reaches of the DR that they need vehicles as big as a Hummer to travel anywhere safely. Sure!
S.

josean BN is a moron pay no attention and abc is cut from a similar bolt in Wankerlandia

this is for you josean:http://forbescustom.com/EconomicD....pmentPgs/DominicanRepublicP1.html

"josean BN is a moron pay no attention"

don't listen to that imbecile of a fart k se llama fred dobbs okay josean. listen the more you pay attention to me he will get jealous because he knows my TrollCologne baits trolls like him. see he is jealous of all the trolls that pay me any attention. did you know that he has a son named fartacus???? he says pay no attention because all he does is pay attention!!! im telling you....

josean has been having an affair with hipolito mejia im convinced!!!

Abc200,
What nationality are you ?
What part of the UK do you live in ?

To all....
As the old saying goes "Give a Man fish he then eats for a day and is temporary pleased thus becoming DEPENDENT, teach a Man to fish he then becomes SELF RELIANT / DEPENDENT".

I believe that this is a great gesture coming from the president, but he needs to put it into his small head that one year is made up of 365 days and our people eat everyday, not just on Christmas.

Wow, I think that was nice of him..There are lots of poor people here. I can't say I'm one of them but there's always a need for something. If he only thought about Christmas...How about the next day and the next day and the next ??? Poor people do need help everyday to get back on their feet , they struggle to make money to feed their own children and so on. Can he help that? That's where the billion pesos should go.

illusionLatina,
I totally agree. I also believe the DR needs a FULL-TIME on the job PRESIDENT.
I guess the best gift should of been education, electricity, health, fixing existing roads etc..etc.. talk about producing jobs ! more like a road to economic recovery striving for the poor to become self sufficient not dependent on any form of Government.
Take care.

Now your talking RIOSM!

Josean,

Why thank you.

As they say "The gift that keeps on giving"

Hats off to illusionLatina for Her inspiration.

I see alot of insults in this forum. I suppose that we all care for the well being of our country, since we are in here reading this in the first place, and with insults we are getting no where...if you disagree give reasons and support it with facts, if you disagree dont simply say because the other person es un imbecil, o porque no piensa como tu. Un dialogo es intercambiar ideas, esto se llama tener tolerancia por las ideas del projimo, y es lo unico que ayuda a fortaleser nuestras propias ideas.

"I also believe the DR needs a FULL-TIME on the job PRESIDENT. I guess the best gift should of been education, electricity, health, fixing existing roads etc..etc.. talk about producing jobs ! more like a road to economic recovery striving for the poor to become self sufficient not dependent on any form of Government"

Well said!! It is a nice gesture, one that we should applaud, but one that should not serve as a one day bandaid to the depressing deep wound of our country.

! more like a road to economic recovery striving for the poor to become self sufficient not dependent on any form of Government.
How stupid - in advanced countries 70% of the jobs depened directly or indirectly on the government.
Without a government creating jobs and protecting agriculture and the jobs of theppor the poor are nowhere.
The Worlds biggest employers -
Chinese army Indian state railways,
British Health Service.
It is amazing to me that there are posters like this!
Keynes was right - the reason the Egyptians maintained full employment is that the kept building pyramids.
Two pyramids, two masses for the dead, are twice as good as one; but not so two railways from London to York.
The social object of skilled investment should be to defeat the dark forces of time and ignorance which envelope our future.
Keynes goes on to explain that only the government can make skilled investment.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes

S.

Abc-123-200,

Say What !

Your right, it's called SOCIALISM or America's modern version of OOOH'BLAMANOMICS.

All from a Citizen of the United Wild Kingdom.

abc calm yourself or it will be back to Wankerlandia for you

Pity all these Americans are so ignorant. US schools still fail in international comparisons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgCS8OYqu2s&NR=1
Poverty rate 40% in US!
S.

but remember you whining squeeler who wins all the Nobels

Abc-123-200,
Your right, your living proof. careful, Just don't out smart yourself.
I predict over 50% before the end of 2010.
Nothing like intentionally bringing economic collapse to the U.S in order to re-structure the whole system by therefore CONTROLLING every aspect of American Society........
"OOOH'BLAMANATION OF A NATION"

PART I

ABC200
I want to start with your video prior to getting into what I meant by dependant on any form of government, and then you proceeding to call it stupid when you clearly decided to look at it from a very extremist point of view.

About the video: You are really going to take a news report by the united states which is making fun of Palin to attack us? Come on seriously? Why do you think she still remains a laughing matter in American Politics? One thing was if you were taking something reported outside of American soil making fun of Palin, but even then it would be “stupid” because we have made enough, and continue to make fun of her within our own boundaries.

On the matter of government intervention, I will make the assumption that we all agree and believe that government intervention is clearly needed to achieve well being in any country. What I was referring to when I decided to quote...

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Cont. PART II

economic recovery striving for the poor to become self sufficient not dependent on any form of Government” was the form of government which was being represented by the giving away of food once a year to their poor citizens. I see and understand how you would take that and take it to mean something along the lines of Adam Smith’s ideology of efficient way of running things, through letting the invisible hand do its part, but see, I don’t believe in the invisible hand, which in any case would be a Gucci gloved hand. But once again, I see why you would take it as that, considering that it does say any form of government.

Part of the reason why I do not believe in most of Adam Smith’s bullshit is because of many things including his famous quote;”It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.”

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PART III

And his very disillusioned way of looking at human nature, whatever that truly is. But I also credit my disheartened view of Mr. Smith to Keynes writing and the fact that I do agree with many of his ideas, which very much disagree with Smith. But back to the article, and how you used Keynes to support the giving of the baskets, and somehow applaud the government, and correlate it to Keynes ideas is wrong.

The giving of the basket has nothing to do with government intervention in our economy, such as what the Egyptians did to maintain full employment, or nothing even close to the British Health Service. The giving of the baskets is charity, it is noble and yes it is nice that he is giving food to our people, but he needs to not to give the fish but to teach them how to fish as Riosm quoted before.

CONT TO PART IV (last part)

LAST PART: PART IV

A perfect example of Keynes ideas and the biggest example to his “General theory” work was the emergence of FDRs New Deal which as we all know was a spending program, and designed to help people help themselves, not free give away of food, which does nothing and would put Keynesian Economics to shame, so why even mention it in your analysis?

And about the last things you said that only government can make skilled investment, only if the government is doing its job right, and our experiences with that is very sad. In Keynes' view, when main pillars of the economy are failing - consumer spending, investment and net exports - the only pillar that is left to support the economy is the government…But when the government is doing a lousy job that really sucks…there was a wonderful attempt with the train to Santiago, he needs to finish what he started, and think along those lines.

dali716,
I have tried many times in the past but failed........I'm a loser !
But then it hit me Abc-123-200 is from the great land of "OZ" I mean France, that explains it....

I could see Palin kicking OOOH'Blama's a$$ in 2012.
Take care.