Una. Que tacaño.

Not for nothing, but, let's keep it Dominican on this venue. For goodness sakes?
This is not that type of a forum, or is it?

At least somebody is thinking about helping his country

God Bless Wyclef Jean.

PROUDTOBEHAITIAN, excuse me if I am a little rough but you are proud to be Haitian, so what? A lot of you (and I mean a lot) are proud to be Haitians and really love your country but do you know where your country is going even with all that proud and love? You need more than proud and love, you need to do something about your future (and nobody else is going to take care of that future).

JRRubirosa, Haitians already have “websites their ideas” and some of them are very good but for some very strange reason they prefer our websites. They are welcome, of course, but the problem is the attitude some of them bring here with them.

People, I don't know how come you just don't get it??? Haitians Or Dominicans = Brothers & Sisters! We are not just neighbours, we are so half Dominican & half Haitian, that it really doesn't matter. It makes me very upset to see all this bickering! Acting like you are 5 years old! NO, this is my corner! You go over there! Como'n people grow up, and realize that we share one island together and whether you like it or not, we are Dominican/Haitians & Haitian/Dominican.... And we need to put our differences aside and work together for the better of our countries, and for the better of our Island. Now, don't be dissing Wyclef! He's done and is doing a lot for his country! More than we can say for some of our biggest money making celebrities. You all need to read a little , do a little research before you go crazy. Think of what you like to say, before you open your mouth and offend others. All Races Are Welcome Here! We are better than that....

I went to Haiti with Wyclef Jean, Angelina Jolie and Matt Damon. I am an active member of Yele Haiti the organization that Haitian Super Star Wyclef Jean founded to help poor Haitians in Haiti. Matt Damon also went to Haiti with Wyclef to bring relief to Haitian hurricane victims.

Check out the two videos below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcwv9noYdVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvWitI1aluo

"The Voice of Reason"

DominicanLady,
Preach them. Keep preaching them. Maybe they will see the light.

"The Voice of Reason"

PeRod, what is your problem? All I said was God Bless Wyclef Jean for the financial assistants he's providing to the poor Haitians. The poor Haitians need all the help they can get. And FYI Wyclef and I and the rest of our organization (Yele) are doing much to help the poor Haitians. So don't attack me because I'm proud to be Haitian. We are financially and mentally changing Haiti. Stop Hating us because we are proud to be Haitian and doing something to change Haiti. You failed to see the progress that we are making because of your bias views towards Haitian. God Bless to anyone that wants to see Haiti change. We look forward to a better Haiti.

Lets see if this positive article about improving Haiti gets over 300 postings.

PeRod,
It's not a matter of violating DR space, if your goverment claims that its official population is 9.5 million inhabitants and claim that out of which 2 million are Haitians or Haitian-Dominicans, then why DR govenment uses this statistic only when it's convenient to get international loans and grants

"The Voice of Reasons".

666 ......name dropper

Matt told me you were a jerk

Hopefully the haitian gov will follow the example and and use the funds they earn begging to the int'l community to built more hospitals, schools and more infrastructure instead of stealing it

"ost", I second that. It is time for the Haitian Government to step up and eradicate the corruption in the Haitian Government. The people for a better Haiti are watching and will not tolerate an incompetent and corrupted government.

Bonahan48
Let me explain my statement regarding the Dominican government not being involved in influencing
Haitian politics.
I partially agree with Lautaro that we should be more proactive in what happens in Haiti for many reasons. A big one is that whatever happens there politically, affects us economically, simple as that.
That is why the USA have military bases all over the world, so they can exert influence and even military might if the case need be.
There is nothing wrong with the DR exerting influence on events that will benefit us in other countries. That is what proactive diplomacy is all about.
I knew that the comment was going to generate some impromptu opinions, and I should have made it clearer. But in a way you are also right, we are not at fault for Haiti's disgrace and the irresponsibility of their rulers, past and present.

Cruz666
Ok thank you for the clarification.
Now about Patrick Gaspard, is he also a Aristide supporter?
And BTW the constitution of the US prohibits anyone not born in US territories to be president.
This is why Arnold Schwarzenegger can not ever aspire to be president unless the US constitution is amended.
Obama was born in Hawaii which is a US state so he qualified, even though some pundits affirm that he was born outside the US and his father lied.

generoso,
The 14th amendment won't allow Patrick Gaspard to become president, although there has been conflicting reports on his birth place. Based on a conversation I had with him over the phone, he confirms that he was born in Haiti. He is very fluent in French and Haitian creole. Patrick Gaspard is against the coup that was orchestrated by Bush, the remnants of the Tonton Macoutes and the Haitian elite. Patrick likes president Aristide very much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/200....s-glue-man-the-best_n_148415.html

"The Voice of Reason"

AntonioJ, I did not debate Pichardo but based on our messeges you can figure out two different approaches regarding Haiti, you might not like any of them:
1. Pichardo believes that Haiti is failed state and needs to be integrated to DR. He believes that Dominican are better at governance and Haitians can provide a larger market and more labor. He proposes the end of Haiti with its subsequent integration to DR.
2. I don't care about Haiti. I want Haitians and Dominican to remain isolated and maintain their own exclusive identity. I want DR tobe more christianized, more westernized and more economically progressive. I believe that Haiti has a right to exists with not foreign intervation. Haiti should be for Haitians, DR only for Dominicans. I also want immediate mass deportation.

International loans are not based on population. DR does not qualify for many grants, like Haiti, due to some basic level of development.

Cruz666, stop making things up....

Written by: DominicanLady, 8 Feb 2009 2:17 PM
From: United States, Boston, MA
People, I don't know how come you just don't get it??? Haitians Or Dominicans

Just say no to DRugs

Written by: DominicanLady, 8 Feb 2009 2:17 PM
From: United States, Boston, MA
People, I don't know how come you just don't get it??? Haitians Or Dominicans


Tu si eres Loca, Que es eso que tu fuma.....

Haitian Today

No wonder they speak Creole so loud in the Dominican Republic.

I love to see Wyclef Jean waving with pride the flag of my "Haiti Cherie" (My darling Haiti)
(Haiti mi Amor). Look at the flag. It's so beautiful. I am so proud of you dear Haitian flag that my ancestors, the founding fathers of the first black independent country in the world left to their progenitures . WE LOVE YOU WYCLEF! Keep holding the flag higher and higher and higher.

"The Voice of Reason"

Roso do not forget we still have to go to Arian for our sancocho on La Independencia.

Anyone has heard the lastest Sweet Mikey ' s song
No lights , shake your boom boom
No food ,shake your boom boom
Mud cake ,shake your boom boom
No drinking water ,shake your boom boom
No rice ,shake your boom boom
No oil ,shake your boom boom
Dessalines ,shake your boom boom
Aristide ,shake your boom boom
Preval ,shake your boom boom
1804 ,shake your boom boom
Haiti's declaration of Independance sold to a private colector shake your boom boom
3000 Haitians asked to leave Santiago, shake your boom boom
Shake your boom boom ! Shake your boom boom !

You go Wiclef ,use the flag ,just another gimmicks to sell more CD's

Everybody let waine the haitian flag and shake our boom boom

Oh yes Cross666
I love to see wiclef showing the beautiful flag made in China
Shake your boom boom
The original flag sold to a private collector , Yes shake your boom boom

Let us waive the flag and eat mud cake and shake our boom boom !
Let's go the the Haitian Dominican border with the flag and welcome the 3000 Haitians that have been asked to leave Santiago and lets' shake our boom boom

The Haitian flag is a beautiful flag. I like it. The Haitian men are butt ugly, but every now and them you see a nice look Haitian woman. We like Haitians, but we can't let you mix and change our cultural and ethnic balance. To do so, woud amount to cultural suicide. Haitians have their own space and we should respect that. Actually we do. But when will they respect ours?

etiennc01
Shake your boom boom.LOL.
I am ready for Adrian's, let's invite cruz so he will pay with Aristide's money. LOL.
As far as music I must say, without sounding like a traitor to my Dominicans compatriots I love the Haitian rymths of Wycleff, Mickey's, compas and all the old ones as well, as much as the old and classic merengues. Not much a bachata person and can live without it.
Re the flag I heard it was the sword that was sold by Duvalier to a collector in New York, not the flag.

Bonahan48
I am worried about your comments about Haitian men being ugly. It's a generalization.
Let's stop badmouthing the looks of Haitians now, it's not kosher.
Re Haitian women, my sweet cherie was from immigrant fathers born in Haiti. She was the prettiest
woman I have ever met and gutsiest. Looked like Elizabeth Taylor. She was too much of a Haitian nationalist and we had huge arguments over that and we broke up.

generoso
I don't understand why they closed the other thread out after nearing 400 posts anyway.
Must have been we are overloading the system or something.

Cruz666
Hey can you introduce me to Angelina Jolie? Everyone has their price.
PeRod
You are dumber than you dumb boss Hipoloco
DominicanLady
Some children only know how to nag and cry.

All the flags in the Western Hemisphere copied the beautiful Haitian Flag. The Haitian flag is the symbol of freedom, liberty, pride, beauty, self-determination, glory, sweet empire, liberation, revolution, revolt, humanity, creativity, ingenuity, leadership, strength, respect, honor, etc...

"The Voice of Reason"

generoso,
Whenever I am invited to a social event where Angelia Joile will be in attendance, I'll let you know.

"The Voice of Reason"

Cruz666
I saw the video's but you forgot one thing. The Dominican Republic sent ambulances, much aid and doctors to Haiti too. Why didn't you show that video?
Also thousands and thousands of Haitian women crossed the border and were treated for free at Dominican hospitals, some giving birth here. Why didn't you show that video?
Or maybe just said thank you!
Your country of Haiti is so proud in their misery that they even sent back some ambulances and medicines sent to Haiti by a Dominican non profit foundation, I still don't know why. I am sure if they wold have asked the persons needing those supplies if they wanted them to return first, they would have said no.

Cruz666
OK thanks about Angelina, and it is Angelina Jolie not Joile. (I thought you knew her well) but make sure old Brad Pitt is not there. I have heard he is a good fighter and can punch you out real bad. LOL.

I am still trying to figure out this guy etiennc. I have an idea more or less about everyone in this forum. But when comes etiennc, I am totally in the dark.

Somebody help me.

"The voice of reason"

Cruz666
What do you need to figure out? etiennc is from a Dominican father and Haitian mother or viceversa.
So what? and no, he is not my zombie, we don't believe in those superstitious legends any more.
Only voo doo worshippers like you bring that up all the time, and believe in them.
I did see what looked like a "walking dead" or zombie once in Cape Haitien when I was little but it was probably someone just suffering from starvation.
Come to think of it and now that you mentioned zombies, Aristide looks like a zombie, are you sure he is not? I will have to call my Dominican bacá friend for him to make an anti-zombie spell to send to you so you can forward to your loved one.

Written by: chillaxin201, 9 Feb 2009 12:31 AM
From: Iraq, 10 billion dollars a month for nothing
Written by: DominicanLady, 8 Feb 2009 2:17 PM
From: United States, Boston, MA
People, I don't know how come you just don't get it??? Haitians Or Dominicans
Tu si eres Loca, Que es eso que tu fuma.....

chillaxin201, Get the revolution stick out of your behind and tell your mama to stop giving me those drugs. Go sell crazy some place else we are all stocked up here. If you look for me, you will find me. if you are going to quote me, do it right. You moron! Show me respect and will receive the same.

The Haitian flag is a copy of the French. But of course, Haitians love to take credit for everything under the sun. Oh, I forgot, now I'm confused, who created the internet Gore or the Haitians?

Bonahan48,
The Domican Republic flag is a beautiful flag also. Why don't you talk about it. You don't have to be jealous.

"The Voice of Reason"

I think that this is great what Wyclef is doing. As a matter of fact, I am a member of Oprah's angel network and encouraged her to do the same in the America's (as she did in South Africa).

What ever I can do to help then please let me know if I can donate professional time and or money! I think the scope should be broader than looking for the next Wyclef or Shakira but it should be to look for the next Brain or Heart Surgeon; Chemist, Agri-Biologist to feed that nations starving or Bill Gates. It is not all about entertainment but there are many other disciplines to make the world a better place.

juan_de_eeuu@hotmail.com

generoso,
Thanks for shedding the light on etiennc (probably the most confused human being on earth).

As far as Aristide, he is one of the greatest leaders of all time. Even the most powerful country in the world is afraid of him and his powerful ideas. Don't you see how Bush father and son could not handle him? They had to overthrow him twice.

I had seen zombies "live" in my life. It's not a joke. It's real. I was born and have come across powerful and mysterious forces in this life and I have great respect for them all and I respect not just voodoo, but all other religions that exist on this planet. I am catholic/Voodouizan. That's a powerful combination. Voodoo is not supposed to be used to harm your fellow human being unless it's in a case of self-defense or legitimate defense just in the case of Bookman who used it to launch the Haitian Revolution in 1791 to kick the barbaric French masters and the Napoleonic troops out of the island.

"The Voice of Reason"

JD-Dominguez,
Thank you for your kindness. I am a good friend of Wyclef Jean. You can make a donation to Wyclef Jean's non-profit organization at:

www.Yele.org


"The Voice of Reason"

Bonahan48,
The Haitian didn't invent the internet, but the Haitians saved the U.S. Revolution in 1779 in Savannah, Georgia to preserve this nation so the internet could have found a country of bright minds to emerge. The Haitians are selfless. Their contribution to this world is immeasurable.

"The Voice of Reason

Cruz666
There you go again as Ronald Reagan would say.
You sound just like your previous handle Haitian1804, but I guess all you Haitians look alike.LOL.
The "barbaric" French were just outnumbered by 500,000 Haitian slaves that overpowered them. It was a question of sheer numbers, that was all. The French had outstretched themselves bringing so many slaves to the island and not having enough security to keep them at bay.
So how do you explain and justify the Haitian submission when the French later sent the 14 French warships to PAP harbor to demand reparations from the Haitians for the nationalization of sugar mills of the colonist and the brave Haitian liberators did not even put up a token fight and signed the agreements that sent to France 150 million Francs plus interest in over 80 years time. This huge ransom and blackmail moneys put a burden on the Haitian economy and people of
Haiti and curtailed their growth for generations.

Cruz666
Are there any celebrities that you do not know?
What are you a manager of celebrities, a voo doo doctor, a political lobbyist, a hitman and fifth columnist for Aristide?,
as well as a graduate from the pea shooter sniper school?
Maybe you drink too much clarin.
Go slowly on that stuff it can affect your brain cells and give you "delirium tremens".

Generoso,
On the historic scale, the Haitians have broken the scale. Haiti is the only country in the world that was created by a successful slaves revolt. Try to understand us. This is profound. This is deep, man. As I am typing this, I can feel the spirit of Toussaint Louverture guiding my hands and dictating me. The African blood is boiling in me. The sound of the drums is beating in my head.

To answer your question, The Haitians paid the French from the money and gold that they seized from the French. The Haitians didn't discover the island. They just took it by force. They gave the Spanish, the French and the British the taste of their own medicine. These Europeans were pirates, thieves, kidnappers and murderers (just like Christopher Columbus who was also a mass murderer) who came to the island and decimate the aborigenes. They were outsmarted by the Haitians. As a result, the Haitians have extended Africa to America.

"The Voice of Reason"

Cruz666,
Your claim to glory is not accurate. Well, I gave my opinion on the events in Saint Domingue: the worst mistake blacks ever made. Had you guys kept quite you'd be so much better off. We all would...Like Benjamin says in The Patriot, Why should I trade a tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants 1 mile away? Get over the racial issue, people exploit people not because of color, we exploit each other because there's money to be made....Free up you mind from the slave mentality. Grow up...

Cruz666, you love to falsify history...Let me see, Haiti did not exist before 1800s. Right or Wrong? So what you have in 1779 is the French assiting the Americans in Ga. Therefore, it would be more appropiate to talk about the black servants under the French flag. Wouldn't that be more logical? But you choose to make up things to justify a glory that was not there. Granted, some of them will participate in events that would lead to the Haitian revolution. But there was not Haiti, they were not Haitians and their were basically servants of the French.

generoso,
For the record, Aristide preaches non-violence a la Ghandi and a la Martin Luther King. Aristide is a man of peace. With the power of God and the spirtit of our anscestors, Aristide disbanded the Haitian army of thugs, drug dealers, traitors and conspirators.

"The Voice of Reason"

Guys,

In honor of the Month of February "Black History Month" Haiti is on top of the world. To learn about this great nation, listen to a U.S. president who went to Haiti to thank the Haitians for saving the U.S. Revolution in Savannah, Georgia in September 1779.

Just check this out:
http://thoughtmerchant.wordpress.....story-month-the-siege-of-savanah/

"The Voice of Reason"

Damn, trying to force this Cruz66 to reason is basically impossible. I give up.

It seems that this new site "HaitianToday "( formerly Dominican Today) is the best forum to express Haitian pride and teach Haitian history.

Rice is expensive_Shake your boom boom
Oil is expensive _Shake your boom boom
Bean is expensive _Shake your boom boom
Gasoline is expensive_Shake your boom boom
Schools are not working _ Shake your boom boom
3000 Haitians being told that they are not welcome in Santiago_ Shake your boom boom
No electricity_Shake your boom boom
Children eating mud_Shake your boom boom


"Hips don 't lie"
"Hips don 't lie"
"Hips don't lie"

etiennc,
For your reference, even though he is an international worldwide known superstar, Wyclef Jean topic is a Haitian subject. So I don't see why you have problem with Haitians conversing about Haiti here.

"The Voice Reason"

Did we hit 400 they shut us out ?? good morning from east to west, thanks Bonahan48, Pichardo 's ideas are not realistic and will not fly

etiennc
We are all Haitians masquerading as Dominican patriots. LOL.
Shake your boom, boom.
Cruz666 is now possessed by the spirit of Toussaint and is now hallucinating on mushrooms.
Keep your crosses handy! and a lot of holy water nearby!

"Written by: chillaxin201, 9 Feb 2009 12:31 AM
From: Iraq, 10 billion dollars a month for nothing
Written by: DominicanLady, 8 Feb 2009 2:17 PM
From: United States, Boston, MA
People, I don't know how come you just don't get it??? Haitians Or Dominicans

Just say no to DRugs
"
Our parent did alot of it in the 60's.... we are the long term effect of these psychedelic drugs ask GC he was there at woodstock !!

"Written by: generoso, 9 Feb 2009 8:46 AM
From: United States
Bonahan48
I am worried about your comments about Haitian men being ugly. It's a generalization.
Let's stop badmouthing the looks of Haitians now, it's not kosher.
Re Haitian women, my sweet cherie was from immigrant fathers born in Haiti. She was the prettiest
woman I have ever met and gutsiest. Looked like Elizabeth Taylor. She was too much of a Haitian nationalist and we had huge arguments over that and we broke up
"
My first ever girlfiriend was from the Dominican republic I met her in Montreal back then in the early 70's Julia, my last before I got married was carmen jejeje

Cruz666
And you can send the bill of the Haitian patriots fighting in the US revolution to Obama with a correct return address of course. But wasn't the Haitian revolution in 1791 and the American ended in 1776?,
so technically they were French soldiers citizens of "ultramer" not free Haitians doing the fighting.
The French are specialists in sending others to do their fighting for them, since they are so busy drinking fine wines and eating cheeses.
Put the same return address as the other petition asking the French to repay the ransom moneys paid to them. Another Aristide crazy project. The French will not even send a baguette back to Haiti as reparations.

antonioj
So we have lot's in common, similar failed amorous history. jejeje.

"Written by: Bonahan48, 9 Feb 2009 12:45 PM
From: United States
Damn, trying to force this Cruz66 to reason is basically impossible. I give up
"
Good luck !! anyone have their right to their opinion no matter how far fetch they might be that is the beauty

antonioj
In the beginning I was peeved by some of his comments and then I realized not to take them so seriously and add a little humor. It worked fine.
Everybody has the right to express themselves, that's what freedom of expression is all about.

Even if some of them hail from the "lunatic fringe" and "grassy knoll school of thought" as GC would put it. Or worse, deal the "slimy race card from the bottom of the deck" from time to time.

"Written by: Lautaro, 9 Feb 2009 2:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Even if some of them hail from the "lunatic fringe" and "grassy knoll school of thought" as GC would put it. Or worse, deal the "slimy race card from the bottom of the deck" from time to time
"
Lat, no doubt I am sure by now you have gave up on smitty, is a well known bottom fo the deck player.

generoso,
Why do you think Obama wants to see more Haitian immigrants in the U.S.? Why do you think Obama named Haitian-American Patrick Gaspard as the White House Political Director? Why do you think President Clinton went to Haiti to thank the Haitians for saving the U.S. Revolution? Why do you think recently the Mayor of Savannah, Georgia has recently erected a monument there to honor the Haitian heroes who fought side by side with George Washington to defeat the British there in 1779. Haitians own a piece of the U.S.

Haiti = Bravery, Dignity, Selflessness. It's beautiful to die for the flag and the nation.

Proof:
http://www.haitianhistory.org/

The question now is once the island was divided in two, there is a spill over on both sides, therefore, the inhabitants on the borders should have been named Haiti-nican. That zone should have been a free zone where both nations should be responsible for the social needs of the folks in the area.

"The Voice Reason"

Cruz666
That is fantastic that Haitians are so wanted by the USA!
So do all Dominicans a favor and take all your compatriots temporarily residing as our guests
in the Dominican Republic and ask the US to import them ALL to the US! Please? Please, please.
We Dominicans will even pay for their return ticket home, no problema.
We really have too many Dominican geniuses and we don't need any more Haitian ones, or
the brave warriors descendants that fought in the US revolution over 200 years ago.
Do me a favor, go out in the streets wherever you live at, and buy a newspaper. Now look at the date of that newspaper, it says February 09, 2009 . Wow! You know what? We are not in the 19 TH century anymore!
PS I am writing from the zone you call Haiti-nican, boss. Thank you. I was mistaken and I thought we were dubbed "Saint Domingue West"

A rap singer is going to build ONE school in Haiti

Moun Gonayiv yo Men Bon Kompa !
la gente de Gonaives Ritmo Ritmo !!!




" Hips don t lie"

la vida en Haiti es un carnaval

Shake your boom boom

Haiti has became an uniterrupted tragicomedy

A rap singer building one school in Haiti

" Hips don't lie"
This is the role model that Haitians children must follow
One day Haitian children , you can become a rap singer just like Wicleft
This man is so talented, just wacth his videos, so talented.
He teams up with Sweet Mickey and T Vice another group of talented Haitians
See Hatian Chidren you can grow up to become Sweet Mickey, Robert Martino

Hip don 't lie
Shake your boom boom
No it is not a dream,it is real !!
Cross666 , Roso, Antonioj,Bonahan48 Come on shake your boom boom
it is not your imagination .It is real ,the rapper Wiclef is building ONE numero uno school in Haiti


Cross666 ,smile you r on candid camera shake it up !

Cruz"Satan":

So much BS to live in poverty, diseases, failed nation, the lame duck of the western hemisphere,
what else???.....

Stop praising unrealistic, cinderella stories from the past that will not help your country at all!!!

etiennc,
You are Haitian? Dominican or Haiti-nican?

It doesn't matter who builds the school. As long as it's a good deed. That's what matters.

Wiclef Jean has brought the most famous celebrities in Haiti (Angelina Jolie, Wyclef Jean, Brad Pitt, Supermodel Petra Nemcova, etc...).

I met the greatest leaders of my time, I have lobbied politicians, I traveled around the world to do humanitarian works. I think you should get involved in something significant and valuable.

Give your existence a purpose. By the way I am thinking about going to Haiti for the carnival. Maybe we will meet there. Maybe we can have a share "prestige beer" together. whether you're Haitian, Domincans or both, carnival time in Haiti is a time when all classes of the Haitian society and people get together to rejoice. I am traveling with my Japanese girl friend Yukari.

The Voice of Reason"

generoso,

DR will have a shortage. Its workforce will suffer. Obama may open the gate to Haitian immigrants. DR will feel so sorry. Haitian immigrants Stock value in DR will go up. DR can not compete with the U.S.

"The Voice of Reason"

Cruz666
It's ok, we can deal with our own suffering and we will miss our Haitian brothers in more ways than one. Do we make reservations for a party of how many did you say? To leave in the next boat?
We would need an aircraft carrier to take the 1.5 million or more to the US, maybe you can ask Uncle Sammy to lend you one.
Don't worry we won't be sorry, if Dominicans are too lazy to the the job Haitians do then we will manage somehow. But thanks for your concern.
BTW when the "gates are opened" maybe you could help send could send another million more Dominicans that need jobs as well to the good old USA, to make some yankee dollars.

I'm burning a spliff with Wiclef Jean right now in flatbush and ave. J
and he just told me cruz666 used to stalk Mary J. Blige day and night and that he drives a dollar van in b'klyn.

Uticaaaa, Uticaaaaa.

You guys are funny and are educational at the same time.
Just reading the posts smoking a nice stogie it's better than watching a novela. LOL.
Keep it up!

Hey you want to buy some tickets for the next performance, ring side seats?
How about a box of your fine stogies for mois?
Merci bocu.

A Haitian gang was taken to the Piedra Blanca jail for stealing 22 roosters. They neighbors had been complaining for a long time and the police finally took action. Because I know some of you will bring the word "alleged" let me just tell you that the Haitian nationals were caught with their hands on the cocks...

Bonahan48,

Just tell me how much the roosters cost, and I'll send the money right away via Western Union. Even though it's a false accusation, I am willing to pay.

"The Voice of Reason.

old_school_trinitario,

Very funny...

"The Voice of Reason"

"Written by: generoso, 9 Feb 2009 6:29 PM
From: United States
Hey you want to buy some tickets for the next performance, ring side seats?
How about a box of your fine stogies for mois?
Merci bocu.
"
Generoso what novela is popular right now in DR,? do they produce some local one ?

"Written by: Bonahan48, 9 Feb 2009 6:31 PM
From: United States
A Haitian gang was taken to the Piedra Blanca jail for stealing 22 roosters. They neighbors had been complaining for a long time and the police finally took action. Because I know some of you will bring the word "alleged" let me just tell you that the Haitian nationals were caught with their hands on the cocks...
"
How big are these roosters pardon me ?? my first pet in Haiti was a rooster

I don't know but 22 rooters would make such a nice sancocho

antonioj
Sure they have local novelas, and they have some made in Mexico, in Venezuela, Miami, Colombia.
The imported ones are favorite of the viewers. This info might be dated as I have never watch one and normally only put the news for 15 minutes a day on TV. I have to feed my habit of DT postings
that is becoming critical and interfering with my work!
Won't it be nice a Haitian-Dominican novela and slug fest?

antonioj
Here is a Haitian joke:
Monsieur Pie was caught stealing a yuca from a farmer by the local police and arrested.
They took the Haitian to court but the yuca had disappeared and was nowhere to be found,
the judge asked Monsieur Pie:
Q: Did you steal the yuca from this farmer?
A: No bossman, no steal yuca.
Q: But many witnesses saw you stealing the yuca!
A: No bossa man, Pie no steal yuca.
And they went on and on with this for a long time and the judge could not get Monsieur Pie to admit to his crime. Finally the judge had a bright idea to end this and told the Haitian:
A: OK you did not steal it, but was it delicious "bon" or not?
A: Ok Yes boss man it was tres bon, taba buene!

The story was real. The gang was looking for cockfights birds. Cockfighting is still done in DR. This is something that we need to eliminate as soon as we take control of the government. Cocks should be exposed to violence only for soup purposes. I am a great defender of animals. I even defended Moreno, the wannabe Dominican, from the Haitian Xchange. Animals have a special place in my heart; therefore I think of the stealing more as kidnappings. The headline should read:
22 Cocks kidnapped by a new Haitian gang

I am not kidding I just heard it in the Piedra Blanca's local news report (PB is located midway between Sto Dg. and Santiago).

Written by: generoso, 9 Feb 2009 7:08 PM
"From: United States
antonioj
Sure they have local novelas, and they have some made in Mexico, in Venezuela, Miami, Colombia.
The imported ones are favorite of the viewers. This info might be dated as I have never watch one and normally only put the news for 15 minutes a day on TV. I have to feed my habit of DT postings
that is becoming critical and interfering with my work!
Won't it be nice a Haitian-Dominican novela and slug fest?
"
I think you are into something... come roaring the creativity of a Dominican, and the capitalistic dream, about a talk show what market would you be targeting with the novelas both or DR only
I can see the title el Amor impossible, who will be the bad guys ? je jejeje

"Written by: generoso, 9 Feb 2009 7:15 PM
From: United States
antonioj
Here is a Haitian joke:
Monsieur Pie was caught stealing a yuca from a farmer by the local police and arrested.
They took the Haitian to court but the yuca had disappeared and was now where to be found,
"
You know too much about Haitian roso, this is a 100% Haitian joke. the yuca should have been substituted with "Cabrit" goat. hilarious man

Generoso, what the heck are you thinking?

Won't it be nice a Haitian-Dominican novela and slug fest?

I want total separation now!!!! No romance, no novela...We can import that rubbish from Mexico...Their novelas are full of beautiful women, and every now and then they even employ Dominicans. Another thing, the mixing between Dominican and Mexicans in NY is a phenomena that needs to be studied, fast and growing faster. Very interesting.
Let me remember the author of "Y" --one of Mexico's greatest boleros- was Dominican.
Andres Garcia- The Mexican macho prototype- is not Mexican, but Dominican, born and raised. Among other famous Dominicans.
Why do Mexicans include Dominicans in their popular culture? I don't know. But that would not happen in Haiti Cherie where they want to use us, but never respect us....Peace, Patria o Muerte.

The bad guys will be the Haitians of course unless you want to market the rights in Haiti. LOL.
We can enlist some of the cartoon characters at DT like haitian1804, whysmithy, Dominicanation and others, to play the bad guy role. They will for sure generate instead of comments a lot of viewers.
Talk show would not make it unless you disarm participants and audience at the door first. You will have to install a search like at the US airport security and then it will still be like the show "Jerry Springer" and have people beating up on each other.

Bonahan48
You can play the part of the Dominican immigration inspector and Rubirosa the head of Cesfront or Dominican border police. LOL.
BTW one of the biggest Mexican leading men for novelas is Dominican, I forgot his name.

His name is Andres Garcia.

I would play the Cesfront part only if we use real Haitians. I get out of control and do the human rights violator scripts. Then at the end I say "Viva el Jefe, cono....."

Bonahan48
I am getting a sense of racial discrimination from you, since the Mexican actresses in the novelas are white only. You don't think a black woman can be beautiful?
Another statement that worries me is "This is something that we need to eliminate as soon as we take control of the government.
Do you intend to do this peacefully or what?

Generoso, I said "all means on the table." But first peacefully.
Now, I think you are the one who thinks racially. I said that women in Mexican novelas are beautiful. Do you disagree with that? Even a friend from Moscow thinks so. So, I did not bring the racial card, not was it implied. Get over that, free your mind of the slave mentality. Do you have certain preferences? Probably some of us do. I like my women light skin, very light or white. Just a preference. I am sure there must be beautiful black women. The other day I went to a White party, I was one of a few Latinos there, and I could tell, boy, all of them were ugly. The same happened to me in a black party a couple of years ago. Damn it! Human are generally ugly. Scarcity makes beautiful women special. In DR there are a lot of beauties and I think it has to do with the fact that Europe and Africa collided to create just the right combination...One of the most beautiful people in the world are the Ethiopians. Do U agree?

Does anyone have the number for charitin, Tony Deandrades ? they love cubans and dominicans in mexico as long you can play pelota and can danse salsa, let's get Lat to write the scripts

AntonioJ,
Yes. They do. There are a few Dominican music bands in the DF, Mexico. Mexicans will continue to like us as long as we are small in numbers. If you make the imprudent move of sending too many of us, they going to start hating us, and they would be right in doing so...
In Haiti there's only a few Dominicans and the hate us with passion. No a single Dominican can be found in Haitian popular culture. No even one. Do you guys see what I'm telling you? Do you get it?

We have Felix Cumbe, but he's Dominican equivalent in Haiti does not exist.

Bonahan48, prepare for a shock when you go to mexico then, you would be surprised the everyday people do not look like you see on the mexicans novelas, there is discrimination in mexico big time.

Bonahan48
No, I don't agree. I only knew one Ethiopian and she was a mess.
I used to go to Mexico a lot for business and pleasure but didn't like the Mexican women. The ones I ran into and most what I saw were all fat, ugly and disproportionate. It is all that ugly Indian blood line. No offense intended please. Just my predilections.
I think Dominican women are the best, they are nice, sweet and kind and brave at the same time. They are hard working and love to rump and have a good time. They can be sweet and docile and please their man like Japanese women. But they are insanely jealous like Thai girls.

You are using a racial typology to identify Mexican women. Mexicans come in all colors. I see also a dislike for Ethiopians and I suggest that you do a little research, there's beauty there. Even among Native American Mexicans I've seen hot looking ones. Of course, beauty is rather a scarce comodity, no matter the "race" or ethnic group. But I've never seen beautiful Haitians women-maybe one o two--, but of course I don't interact with Haitians. My patriotic choice.

Written by: generoso, 9 Feb 2009 8:18 PM
From: United States

Generos is Bonahan48 pulling the card from the bottom of the deck...

hey Generoso, Bonahan48, etiennc, cruz666 let 's not pull the card now, however please answer as honest you can be, what is your ideal woman please describe ?

I see no race, I see people. You guys are victims of a racial and colonial mental structure...Remember, "none but ourselves can free our minds." I see nations, no race.

antonio,

name one dominican who has made it in haitian popular culture...

antonioj
You start first.LOL.

"Written by: Bonahan48, 9 Feb 2009 8:24 PM
From: United States
But I've never seen beautiful Haitians women-maybe one o two--, but of course I don't interact with Haitians. My patriotic choice.
"
You are a num nut, look man on my mother side my sisters and my family will not even talk to you
you must have been hiding in a cocoon under some rocks.

"Written by: Bonahan48, 9 Feb 2009 8:36 PM
From: United States
antonio,

name one dominican who has made it in haitian popular culture...
"
Ninguno, I can not think of any ?? I am pretty sure there must be some.. about peralt

"Written by: Bonahan48, 9 Feb 2009 8:35 PM
From: United States
I see no race, I see people. You guys are victims of a racial and colonial mental structure...Remember, "none but ourselves can free our minds." I see nations, no race.
"
Are we getting him on board or what patria o muerte, have you dated outside your race ?

Bonahan48
antonioj is right I met quite a few gorgeous Haitian babes, Count them, Gina, Carole, Lucienne, Aida,
Greta and the other two I can't remember their names one of them was a gorgeous AA flight attendant,
the last one had her own business and 6' tall. Oh I forgot Nicole she was Haitian and French blood brown skin with blonde hair. Quite a dish. She used to live full time at the Oloffson Hotel in PAP. Where they partly filmed "The Comedians" with Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor about the Duvalier dictatorship.
But hands down the most gorgeous one was Gina, she tended bar and was also the owner of "Le Buck" in Petionville.
World beauty contest quality and most stunning. Take it from one that knows and has been around.

Generoso,

"brown skin with blonde hair" That sounds like a creation out of a Tono Rosario song.
She must look like a cuco...A beautiful Haitian?????? Well, I guess it's possible. There are even guys who pretend to be women. God, bless the ugly.

No ONE can deny that DR & Cuba have alot of beautiful women so does Haiti the difference is the QUANTITY

Anthony, Explain this:

"No ONE can deny that DR & Cuba have alot of beautiful women so does Haiti the difference is the QUANTITY "

I gotta go now my Dominican babe wants to file divorce because of DT time.
Bye.

the only problem with having a threesome with a haitian woman and a dominican woman is that your bank account will be dry by end of your first orgasm.

"Written by: generoso, 9 Feb 2009 9:19 PM
From: United States
I gotta go now my Dominican babe wants to file divorce because of DT time.
Bye.
"

same here roso see you tomorrow

The same jerk Wyclef Jean once said "let's unite Hispaniola island", because all haitians dream
about a impossible union, Dominicans don't like haitians "period", so why pushing the issue and before this happens a "Balcanization war" will occur in a matter of seconds "guaranteed".

"Haitians "

try to live in peace, rebuild your country and move on but please never dream of taking what
never belonged to you, Dominican Republic is a sacred land for Dominicans!!!1

generoso, etiennc, antonioj, & co.
The most beautiful woman who ever lives the face of the earth is this Haitian woman by the name of Claudinette Fouchard. The world used to call her Haiti's sugar.

For your curiosity, click on the links below to see this stunning Haitian beauty (Claudinette Fouchard):

http://www.dreamstime.com/comp.php?imageid=4107681

http://www.goantiques.com/scripts/images,id,749364.html (you have to copy and paste this one)


"The Voice of Reason"

Cruz
Second link doesn't work but she must be now over 70 years old.
Do you know any young ones?
Does Yukari have any Jap friends?, I kind of like the slanted ones. LOL.
Of course they must be between 30 and 40 only.
Anything over that send to etiennc or antonioj they like them oldies but goodies. LOL.
Here is a more recent photograph of her:
http://home.earthlink.net/~carlphotos/Untitled-10.jpg

generoso,
This is a recent picture of this stunning Haitian actress and super model Garcelle Beauvais

http://uk.askmen.com/women/galler..../garcelle-beauvais/picture-3.html

"The Voice of Reason"

Claudinette Fouchard is far from beautiful. Not an ugly woman thou. Her skin with obvious non-african features made her Ok. But not beautiful, Cruz666... You got jokes, Chemier...

i notice something interesting and i think most dominicans would agree with me. what haitian call beauty is usually a mulatta or a barrio beauty. you know the girl from el barrio who was not really beautiful but she looked ok, nice body, nice face...the one you had as a second choice in case things did not work with the official one...quiero decir haitian beauty is barrio beauty...no offense...still waiting to be surprise...no amelia vega, no maria montes, no mariasela, still waiting....

Bonahan48:

Good sense of humor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Check your messages please!!!!


LOL

generoso,

Check this stunning Haitian actress/Supermodel Garcelle Beauvais. What a beauty!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtR9eQ3g_g

"The Voice Reason"

cruz
Garcelle looks very nice but is 40 and has a 16 year old son. So she is too close to the age limit.
That's too old for me and I prefer them without children.
But thanks for the photos, next time send some younger ones with the telephone number as well. LOL.
It's been nice but I think we should go back to the subject matter, what was it again?
Oh, is it true what Bonham48 said that you like to pack the chocolate?

etiennc
You are all fired up this morning.
If this is Haitian Today, should we doing our parlais en patois?
Sa vrere?
You are so right I was being hypnotized by the voo doo man. Jesus! It almost worked.
Thanks for waking me up and saving me from inhaling some voo doo powders next and becoming a full fledged zombie.
He did offer to send me an envelope with some tickets or something, that is where the voo doo powder was going to be used!

Is it Haiti or Hades?

Roso I just wanted for this forum to stay Domincan Today so we can discuss Dominican politics and Dominican related issues.This is not an international forum.
As the Haitians have been dumped on Dominican soil , this has streesed the Dominican s emotionally and financially.We had engaged in debates,dialoques,and discussions seeking human solutions.Lately the forum has been hatianized where Haitian comedians can post propagandas to divert our attention to serious issues at hand such how to stop the flow of illega migration before Dominicans take matters into their own hands.
Who gives a flying sh _t about Garcelle Beauvais and Claudinette Fouchard whose last name indicates a rare inbreeding.
A cynical rap singer who the Haitian flag as a publicity stunt Is this a Dominican concern ?
What has the filhy elite done all these years and all the money stolen from the Haitians coffers and all the money colllected from selling Haitian historical articrafts and documents ?

This post is going to be quickly removed so we can post garbage like Cluadinette Fouchard was a beautiful Haitian woman
These are superficial mattters to a nation like Dominican Republis that is known to have the most beautiful women in the world.
Who the heck are kidding?
cross 666 shoud travel to this country to witness for himeself or helself the spectrum of beauties from the dark negra with green eyes to the lylly white .
This forum is not about proving that Haiti has a few beautiful woman too
This forum is about challenging the Haitians elite to care for its people too
It is to denounce , expose Haitian politicians to help feeding their peolple too
We can not afford any beaity contest here.The issues are too serious.
Go ahead remove my posts now.
I hope Roso and other serious posters will have time to read them abd formulate an answer

etiennc,
You don't know anything about me. You are just running your mouth. I have dated women of all races (Asian, Europeans, Blacks, Whites, Latinas/Hispanics). I have traveled around the world. I have seen this world and I know this world. I have visited Dominican Republic about ten times. I never hide the fact that I love Dominican women and there is a wide range of beautiful women in Dominican Republic. A variety that you can see also and mostly in Brazil. whether you like it or not, the mix of Haitian/African, Taino/Indian, Spanish, French and English blood, makes Dominican Republic a paradise for men in search of diverse and exotic beauties. I have to give credit where credit is due.

Below is Haitian Superstar Wyclef Jean's wife. She is a very beautiful woman and a top fashion designer.

http://www.akolad.com/Fashion/fusha_claudinette_Spring03.htm

"The Voice of Reason"

Haiti or Hades?

He's dated all the woman's in the world? He's the Hadeation Rubirosa????? LMFAO!!!!!

Cruz666 are you a satanist by any chance? Are you a wannabe dominican! Haitiano!!!!! That chick is ugly LOL.....

Cross666 you don not seem to get the message.
Who gives a f about you selecting the most beuatiful women in this wold.
I have date a lot of beautiful women in my fantaisist imagination.
Now I am old enough to stop lying aboutwhere my pen--- has been.
this forum is not about fake gigolos and wannabee gigolos.
This is not a beauty contest.
This is not about dumb rap singer holding a copy of a flag as a publicity gimmick for his next CD (Hips don't lie -Remix)(The original flag has been sold to a private collector ).
we are concerned about more serious matter ,how to stop as humanly as possible the flow of Haitians crossing illegaly the Haitian Dominican border.
Discuss some substantive issues, this is not Rap Today or Haute Couture Today.
Who can afford the expensive dresses designed by wiclef 's wife?
Wiclef's friends such as Sweet Mickey and T-Vice.
You still can not get it. Unless you are from this elite ( I omit the ajectives on purpose,)

Gizmo,
I am 100% Haitian. Now I have an adoptive country, which is the United States of America. That makes me Haitian-American.

I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo proud of my Haitian heritage.

Haiti is the first Black independent country in the world. WOW! Haiti mi amor!

"The Voice of Reason"

Unfortunatetly Michelle Bennet is not around to get herself some of these fur coats.
Then would then urn on the Air Conditioner at the the Palace bringing it to freezing temperature to micmic the climate here in December so she could wear her fusha coat .
I should be crying but this gives me a good laugh.
This was how the Haitian money was being wasted instead of feeding the poor.

etiennc
Hey bro don't be so serious and hard on Cruz. He is just injecting a little fun in the thread.
We men all love beautiful women.
Laughter is ok and makes us all closer as human beings.
Relax a bit and enjoy, the world's problems will still be there when we return or decide to tackle them again.
Stay off the Brugal, it makes you jumpy. I like Barbancourt much better.
I remember a time far away from PAP I got a flat tire in a rented car and couldn't find the tools to change it. I was with a British news photographer friend who was stone drunk and could barely walk so he could not help me change the tire. Some Haitians came and they offered to help, after they finished they asked us for $50 dollars. We said it was way too much and we were not going to pay that and I gave them $10 dollars. Well it got hairy and they started to get violent. Suddenly my friend pulled his pants down and mooned them, they were then laughing so hard I got both of us in the car and sped away.

etiennc,
You are a confused soul. The topic here is about Haiti and Wyclef Jean.

"The Voice of Reason"

Written by: generoso, 10 Feb 2009 3:23 PM
From: United States
Cruz666
Hey cruz, do me a favor. I mean I can tolerate, laugh with you and
sparring with you as well in the threads. But to read after every thread
the same self aggrandizing comments such as :
"The voice of reason" doesn't help your case a lot.
Please take that blasphemy out of your messages.

Written by: gouletcolonial, 10 Feb 2009 3:25 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Colonial Zone Isabela la Catolica [formerly] Calle Comercio
or change it to " Laugh in the Dark " or " Should not have done all those drugs "

etiennc
I could not stop laughing with this comment:

Written by: old_school_trinitario, 8 Feb 2009 9:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, From a yanikeke stand near you
croix666 you such a loser dude.

everything that comes out of mouth reflect your frustation as a sour haitiano frustrado.
if you were descriminated against as a child you need to move foward and drop your complejos.

no wonder you get verbally abused everytime you post your pathetic views on this website.

go to www.buparlekaka.net and vent your frustrations overthere.



" El saco de pata voladora en el fullin "

Roso, cross666 is just a cross between Haitian1804 and Dominicanation. I hope his is sterile and will not make any cross666 junior. One is enough A cross between a horse and a jackass produces a mule thai is sterile.
I understand that the image of Haiti has been so bruised that cross 666 wishes who suffering from self aggrandization finally got a forum where he can seek respect for Haiti a repair years of ravages of bad press.
The problem he is looking for respect by posting irrational and mythomanic posts.
Mythomanic:A soi-disant player.
He looks for respect by romanticing the past,Who the heck was Claudinette Fouchard ?

He could have easily get more respect if he was to point out that William Florville was the Haitian barber for Lincoln,his friend for 24 years.Florville was a pallbearer at Lincoln's funeral Florville was was a philantropic,He also helped convincing Lincoln to accept a Haitian Minister in 1860(Ambassador now)
Wiclef the rap singer
HIPS DON'T LIE Please

1.Written by: etiennc, 9 Feb 2009 3:30 PM
From: United States

2.Written by: etiennc01, 10 Feb 2009 6:21 PM
From: United States

will the real Etiennc stand up ???

Antonioj Chill man !
Did I writeHaitian1804 or cross666 or dominicanation
It is etiennc etiennc01 just the same
Antonioj lately you have been very careful and supersticious.
One is colonel etiennc and I got promoted to general etiennc01

etiennc
You are so right about mithomanic. I also thought he could be a pathological liar because of all his wild stories and name dropping. Similar to haitian1804 that hasn't been seen lately and was also a chimere.
Remember I tested haitian1804 with a simple question he was bragging about being a sniper and he lied through his teeth and was then ridiculed publicly.
That happened to Dominicanation and he hasn't been seen or heard lately either.
Etiennc 01 you will be the head of psychological operations or Psy-Ops with the rank of doctor general. The plain etiennc head of military interrogation unit ( MIINUN) with the rank of colonel.

"Written by: etiennc01, 10 Feb 2009 8:01 PM
From: United States
Antonioj Chill man !
Did I writeHaitian1804 or cross666 or dominicanation
It is etiennc etiennc01 just the same
Antonioj lately you have been very careful and supersticious
"
Hey brotherman I was merely pointing to the fact, gracias para aclarar esto...

antonioj
Sa va?
How's the weather up in canuck land?
I had a Canadian friend in high school that hated to bathe after gym class and we called him canuck
and he used to get real mad.
He was French Canadian. Are they as allergic to water as their mainland French progenitors?

"Written by: generoso, 10 Feb 2009 8:22 PM
From: United States
antonioj
Sa va?
How's the weather up in canuck land?
I had a Canadian friend in high school that hated to bathe after gym class and we called him canuck
"
Hey roso you know too much, hope Goulet do not read this thread, you will be in real do do
the weather is ok now, not much snow left and the tulipes are starting blooming in BC
Question for you General we may be same age approximately from story I gather from your posting, do you know about the DP express at all ?

Roso careful you may get attacked speaking about people who do not like to shower.
A camouflaged response will be soon posted by you know who.
"The devil worshipper himself "

antonioj
DP Express they came up in the 70's.
They were best in the great 80's, my best year's by far.

etiennc
Thank you for not mentioning his name or the nameless one. You know if you do then they will suddenly appear. Ko mamao!

What a sparkling and stunning Haitian actress beauty "Lela Rochon"!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005375/bio

http://people.famouswhy.com/lela_rochon/

"The Rational Mind"

"The Rational Mind"

Haitian Superstar Wyclef Jean sold 53 milion albums worldwide making him an icon and one of the most famous superstars in the world.

Click on the link below to see Wyclef with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt in Haiti helping out Haitian kids.

http://www.yele.org/photos/brad-angie-06.html

"The Rational Mind"

roso, here's it enjoy my best innocent year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_-fTTmF55M


I am try to get a hold of an Haitian song call "bobiner" made famous in DR anyone...

"BOBINER" - Can anyone tell me why Domincan musicians are playing Haitian compas and song?

Maybe I should sue. No, I am not going to do that. As long as DR admits that merengue derives
from Haitian compas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3....43977E&playnext=1&index=8

"The Rational Mind"

Cruz666, we want to have a dialogue with all, including Haitians. But it cannot be about Haiti. Look you putting those who agree with you in a difficult position. In my case, I don't really care because you showing us the reasons are I call Haitians "Undesirable." You have become a pain the in the heck by interruption productive conversations. Can you discuss things in a more mature way? Can you do that?

antonioj
Just for you my friend:

http://www.afromix.org/html/musique/artistes/dp-express/index.en.html

Not Dominican...not Haitian...not of either ansestorial background.
It is sheer ignorance and fear that divide and that is obvious here. To me...all are Hispanolians...most are very hospitible and accomodating....more so in the countryside than in the big cities.

Oddly enough...just last week...Mr Guerra made a statement about improving education in the DR...and he was viewed by most as a role model of good faith. Now Mr. Jean actully starts a fund to support an educational facility and he is considered an opportunist. Odd....one simply wants the government to improve education....putting no personal effort into it....hero....one actually puts a financial effort into it...and because he is Haitian....he is only in it for his self interest.

PuntacanaMike, I beg to differ. Do you mind if I call you RACIST?

This is what I mean. You see us as Hispaniolans (havest of empire) but there's no such a thing. But when you look at us all you see is "people of color." Why do these Blacks try to differentiate Haitian and Dominican? They are the same Sh--" This type of mentality had its greatest expression in the 1848 Conference when Europeans divided and took Africa for their own benefits, ignoring the differences among the people who lived there. This led to war, crimes and genocide among people who were not brothers and sisters, but simply humans. They did what any other group would have done under the circumstances created by foreigners: attack and kill each other. See Hotel Rwanda.

In the island there is DR and there's Haiti, two different countries with tremendous linguistics and cultural differences. IT WOULD TAKE A RACIST TO SEE US AS EQUAL, AS THE SAME. NO, SIR, WE ARE NOT HISPANIOLANS... Patria o Muerte,

Cruz666:

Inferior personality????

etiennc,

Lela Rochon speaks Haitian creole better that I do. She comes to Haitian events all the times. She participates at the West Indian carnival on the Haitian float in New York Eastern Parkway almost every year.

What do you now? NADA.

"The Rational Mind"

A DEEP REFLEXION:

Looking from outside in, you see the island of Hispaniola. You see an island whose inhabitants used to live peacefully (Indian/Tainos). You see human greed decimating a peaceful culture. You see a mass murderer by the name of Christopher Columbus. You see barbaric Spanish, English and French pirates. You see greed extended to the point of kidnapping Africans then enslaved them, then subjected the enslaved Africans the worst imaginable brutality, barbarism and atrocity. Then you see the brave, intrepid and incredible Haitians who rejected colonialism, racism and slavery and rose up to defeat the most powerful armies in the world (Spain, England and Napoleon/France).

Wyclef brother, I see you holding strongly and waving proudly the Haitian flag. The flag that liberated so many other countries including the United States. I know the feeling and the pride that, we, Haitians live with every second, every minute and every day.

"The Rational Mind"

Roso Thanks for the link man, you stump me ??? this was the good old day, on your side can there you tell me there was a type of merengue "handy handy" the beat was much faster tell me a little about it.

kudo cruz for the link I have been looking for that a long time, you know your sh?t good song...

CROIX666

you should consider some kind of medication.
seriously!!

I hear PROSAZ is great at treating neurological disorders.

and puntacana mike you're right dude we are one island one people.
i also see one people when i see a native american and a anglo american eating together at red lobster.

etiennc, music is universal stop the division, I am open to variety of type of musics

you guys still over here taking turns fighting and then massaging each others balls ?

hey GC you are welcome to join the fight if you want, now the ball massaging i don't know.
your hands are too rough after decades of harvesting Yuka in san pedro de macorix.

Bush & Co to be investigated for kidnapping president Aristide and for committing other crimes against humanity:

http://www.thelangreport.com/feat....h-administration-be-investigated/

"The Rational Mind"

generoso

El saco de pata voladora en el fullin

Is the dominican version of
"can of whup ass "

the ugly little dwarf got what was coming to him

tonyj ..Canadian Judge gives 7 year old right to decide his own custody.
A 7 year old boy was at the center of a courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy had a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt. The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he refused to live with her. When the judge suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the family and learning that violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.
After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Toronto Maple Leafs whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone

I tried that several times. But, they blocked My IP address, I could only enter from another computer.

Antonio, what is you link to DR? Got family down there?

tonnj I pass that along to you from a fellow ice farmer like yourself .....Go Leafs

"Written by: Bonahan48, 11 Feb 2009 7:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I tried that several times. But, they blocked My IP address, I could only enter from another computer.

Antonio, what is you link to DR? Got family down there?
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Actually, I have no affiliation with DR besides friends, there was some bad press about DR with regard to treatement of Haitians, I decided to learn very fascinating paradigm so far and so close. The only childhood re-collection of DR my father use to go there for cock fights "nan panyol"
release and renew your ip, you can mask your ip I can help you I will send a private email.

Hey GC please do swear it's a true story.. I will let you have my ice scrapper !! go leafs.

There are positive stories about Haitians and Dominicans also. Haitian Superstar Wyclef Jean has a good heart. May God bless him. Wyclef met with Dominican Rev. Mendoza.

http://www.ahorre.com/noticias/in...._and_herman_mendoza_unite_people/

"The Rational Mind"

release and renew your ip, you can mask your ip I can help you I will send a private email

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How should I go about doing this? What's the process?

Other Good stories about Haitians and Dominicans. What I realize is Dominicans living outside of Dominican Republic have evolved to become well informed citizens. On the contrary, Dominicans living in DR (with some exceptions) seem to be narrow minded. As evidence, watch the two videos below and read the article to see how Haitians and Dominicans are living in harmony outside of DR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7T_cLDd1Jg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9oykNkctqE&feature=channel

http://www.ahorre.com/noticias/in...._and_herman_mendoza_unite_people/

February is Black History Month: "A TRIBUTE TO HAITI" The first Black Independent nation in the world. Thank you Toussaint Louverture. Thank you Jean-Jacques Dessalines. I am ready to die for Haiti Cherie anytime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtLDa3rW6iE

"The Rational Mind"

Cruz666 said: "What I realize is Dominicans living outside of Dominican Republic have evolved to become well informed citizens. On the contrary, Dominicans living in DR (with some exceptions) seem to be narrow minded."

By the same token, we dominicans living in the DR consider a large chunk of them (with only a few exceptions, like general roso, ladronaso, ciby, popon, USADR, DominicanChic and guillermone, among others) to be narrow-minded, one droppist turncoats that have sold out their country and their compatriots' chance to be free on the only part of this earth they'll be able to call their own just for a few coins like the biblical Judas. That's why the're easy prey for the racist talk and BS of irresponsible and hypocrite people like yourself, "the voice of stupidity", whose only purpose in life is to make other people accountable for your OWN mistakes. It's easy to preach "unity" and other like minded BS when you'll not be the one to pay the bill for those mistakes. (cont.)

so far so good

(cont...) So I'm sorry if our mighty contempt for your ideas irritates you, but we, the dominicans from the island, are mightily tired of the myriad attempts made by foreigners to make of us their willing, useful idiots (yes, even yours, I wonder when will you realize that for us you will ALWAYS be foreigners, no matter how shocking it might result to your simplistic, "one-drop rule" mentality), so no thanks, we absolutely and mightily refuse to be your useful idiots on your scheme, specially when this BS scheme meditates making us a party in our own destruction as a sovereign national enctity. I can only paraphrase Einstein when he says that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, cuz' that's exactly what you're asking us islanders to do. The japanese and the diaspora might commit seppuku and hara-kiri to please you on a daily basis, but we dominicans will certainly NOT commit that just to satisfy your politically correct sensitivities.

Lautaro
As usual you are the proud carrier of the Dominican Republic banner riding high in the skies!
Viva La Republica Dominicana!

Thanks, general. It mightily annoys me when these foolish foreigners ask us to commit parricide (or matricide, it depends on your point of view) time and again, when they will be the first one to bark at the idea when and if it's proposed to them to commit on their respective nations/countries. You can't ask from others what you're incapable of doing yourself, cuz' it has always been my view that one can only preach by the force of one's own example.

Bravo well said

Lautaro
Even if some doubters think that we are corresponding with unstable persons with a one track mind that are stuck in their ways and incapable of change. Our comments serve a purpose because the majority of readers that DO NOT contribute to the thread most of the time, but they read your (our) comments and they learn, educate themselves better in the subject matter, and arm themselves with logical and reasonable arguments that will defend and protect our point of view to others.
This is your (our) purpose although it may seem like a waste of precious time.
And a most important and patriotic civic duty.

May God Have Mercy On Their Souls

I copy, general. Speaking of my case, I have made it my personal crusade to fight a take-no-prisoners-all-out war against the "one drop rule", educating our people in the basics of it and how it can be countered, in the sense that so many of our people, when setting their feet on foreign lands (specifically the US) for the first time, find themselves totally unprepared to face that ideological monstruosity, one that is being used so effectively to erode our very national values and being, so the next time they meet foreigners wanting to denigrate and one-drop their nationality they find themselves prepared to take the attack and shove it through those foreigners' arses, very literally. If you have been checking the forums, you'll find that yours truly, yumnuk and our resident Taino and American Natives' expert, Baracutei, have been waging it by educating our people about the importance of rescuing our neglected Taino roots.

Lautaro
Sometimes I sin and I am not as focused as you are and are wooed by displays of "magical
distractions" that want to confuse us to further their lost cause by trying to hypnotize us waving their magic wand of tricks and adding low resistance crowd pleasing subjects like laughter, music and beauty.
That is the same exact way "zombies" or walking dead are made. Lot's of human beings have
been brainwashed so by "the system" and constant TV watching that they have become "zombies",
since TV is not interactive like participating in a live discussion as we are doing.
They have no individual opinions other than the one implanted by the spin doctors in their feeble minds.
I called these the real and live "humanoids".

That's precisely the danger, general. Given the lack of a sound education by the majorities of our population, they get seduced by all that bling-bling of the expats without realizing that what lies underneath is even more insidious than the brutal and raw reality of their everyday lives on the country. It took my committing economic "heresy", in the sense of deviating from my official economic theory syllabus (Keynes, Friedman) and getting to read some neo-marxist books about the propaganda of the capitalist mass media (specially the ones by Ignacio Ramonet) to realize the real ideological dangers that our masses are really facing. Sorry GC, but sometimes the "grassy knoll school of thought" can really get it right when explaining the realities of our societies, even if their economic system is a dismal failure when dealing with matters of efficiency.

consumerism and materialism sux I agree with the commies on that one......You got that right Lautaro

Dear Lautaro,
I have nothing to do with the decimation of the Tainos. Go unearth sadistic and barbaric Christopher Columbus and ask him why did he exterminate such a pacific people and their culture.

The point that I am trying to make is reflective of other countries not just DR. Dominicans living outside of DR have a 21st century mind, while, in my opinion, Dominicans who have never had a chance to evolve outside of DR's bubble have a 20th century mentality.

What are you trying to tell me? Dominicans living outside of DR are not patriotic? On the contrary, I have seen Dominican pride on display on a grand scale in Dominican communities in the U.S. I have seen Dominicans proudly waving their flags at Dominican Day parade here. I have seen Dominican proudly display signs of Dominican Restaurants, etc.. In addition to being more open minded, Dominicans living outside of DR still retain their identity and they continue to take pride in their culture.

"The Rational Mind"

Cruz666 said: "The point that I am trying to make is reflective of other countries not just DR. Dominicans living outside of DR have a 21st century mind, while, in my opinion, Dominicans who have never had a chance to evolve outside of DR's bubble have a 20th century mentality."

And the point that I'm trying to make, Smitty, is that a 21st century mind IS NOT represented by the slavish acceptance of the "one-drop rule". If something, that represents 19th century mentality at its worst. Just read this essay, that way, you will know about the real, insidious meaning of the ideas that you're so slavishly parroting about:

http://backintyme.com/essays/?p=15

cruz 666
Those Dominicans are very patriotic as well. But in the end you will have to deal with guys like us to place your arguments, not them.
We are carrying the banner because we live in DR full time, and you are placing your arguments with us, not with them.
We have also read the Dominican-Haitian history carefully and can not be manipulated so easy,
by you dubious and dogmatic arguments.
Dominicans in the diaspora although as patriotic as anyone maybe are not as current or close to the problem as we are, that reside in the DR full time and can see with our own eyes the dangers of free and uncontrolled immigration or "friendly invasion" as you picture it.
And one more thing you changed your stupid slogan at the end of your rabbles, but instead you put another self serving commentary. What a nut case you are you "rational mind".
Have you considered taking the 666 out of your handle? Or are you proud to represent the dark forces in more than one way?

And I might add, general, that we are not so easily fooled by any race card or "solidarity among the black people", "down with the europeans", black pantherish BS discourse. We certainly know better than indulging in stupid race discourses when there are so many of our own people suffering on our own country the same wants that those haitian inmigrants face, so, Smitty, you have to understand that we must help those compatriots FIRST before helping anyone else. Also, unlike americans, we don't suffer foolish supremacists of whatever kind to be meddling around on our affairs gladly.

I'm getting tired of this game...everytime, no matter the subject you guys always come back with HT/DR fight of words. If Wyclef decide to give back to his homecountry, if you don t wanna join the cause you can at least shut your mouth and wait until DR/HT problems comeback in front. I always visiting DT to see what change with your comments, nothing, nada,rien still the same BS comments,all my work was vain. It s a waste of time, I m thinking about a new approach maybe more hard, cause i think theres a way to change the kind of conception you have, and I will find it. wish me good luck...FBN

Will you take Cruz666 a.k.a. the aristidan chimere with you in the process (a chimere who, by the way, is planning to revenge himself on anyone that opposed his little malicious priest of a boss, including you)? If that's so then you have all my blessings.

hateIam1804
You other HateIam chimere twin brother was speaking the same kakawords as you.
Are you twin brothers as well?
How is your sniper training with pea shooters going?
Good luck! and don't come back!, please?

oh no I ve let you too much time to post your bs here boyscout, there must be a change here. And no I m not lowing myself to believe in a self claiming king, JBA is a liar like all the other, See what s going on here in Haiti with all the rest lavalassian, they r themselve divide and all their candidates are rejected by the CEP. I believe in the upcoming generation, the youth with a new vision and a new politic for a new Haiti, I know the history of JBA very well and he s the one introduce "Pe Lebrun" here in Haiti. So anyone claim themselve as a fan of this man, ignore something about him,or defend something else than Haiti.

hateIam1804
So the chimeres are not a strong force in Haiti? They wanted to have about 16 candidates for the elections, also Guy Phillippe was not allowed to participate.
These are free elections a la Haitien?
Where is democracy in Haiti if they do not allow the opposing forces to post their candidates?

Lautaro
I believe hateIam since it is obvious him and cruz are different tunes with the similar songs.
You were right, colonel, whysmitty was the previous reincarnation of cruz.

Guys, stay tuned. Bush & Co are under investigation for kidnapping Aristide and for ruining the U.S., the rest of the world and for crimes against humanity.

Aristide to be back in Haiti soon. Mark my words. Aristide had the ball to disolve the Haitian army of thugs, murderers and drug dealers.

In creole they say: "Pa Manyen Titid", English: "Don't touch Aristide", in French: "Ne touchez pas Aristide"

Whenever anyone messes with Aristide, he or she always ends up paying the consequence. Just take a look at what George W. Bush is going through right now. Bush is being probed.

Wyclef Jean is doing a good job in Haiti.
Watch this video to see what this worldwide known Haitian superstar multimillionaire is doing. May God bless him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4710907n%3fsource=search_video


"The Rational Mind"

generoso said: "I believe hateIam since it is obvious him and cruz are different tunes with the similar songs. You were right, colonel, whysmitty was the previous reincarnation of cruz."

It was unmistakable, general. He tried to do as the late rom/dominicanation did, that is, to try and conceal his presence under an innocent veil, but I guess that like the former, his fanaticism and hatred for everyone that opposes his views was simply too much to bear.

You guys are preaching hatred. I will continue to preach love and unity. That's what we need in this forum.

Keep mis-identifying me. Keep accusing me. Keep labeling me. But at the end of the day, my rational approaches will prevail.

Remember that "LOVE IS STRONGER THAN HATE"

"The Rational Mind"

As the saying goes: "Te conozco bacalao aunque vengas disfrazado". Go and find other useful idiots with which to deceive with that message. We have had enough false preachers for a dozen lifetimes as it is, only to get cut down with their hidden knives.

croix666

remember that you only preach love when you are the one to gain the most out of a relationship.

the reason you love dominicanz so much is because nobody else gives a flying crapp about you.

I love you too my friend.

but from a distance.

old_school_trinitario,
I have so much love around me that I don't know what to do with. Everybody loves me wherever I travel around the world. I was raised in a family that wrapped me with love from head to toes.

"The Rational Mind"

old_school_trinitario
The farther the better.

cross666 your family has wrapped your head too tight.
On vous reconnait morue (a cause de ton odeur) bien que tu viens deguisee
Te conozco bacalao , aunque vengas disfrazado


General Roso,
the money that Duvalier stole ($6million) will returned to the Haitian people
Who is going to manage this money ?
It is like letting a cat wacth over a piece of cheese

cross666 your family has wrapped your head too tight.
On vous reconnait morue (a cause de ton odeur) bien que tu viens deguisee
Te conozco bacalao , aunque vengas disfrazado


General Roso,
the money that Duvalier stole ($6million) will returned to the Haitian people
Who is going to manage this money ?
It is like letting a cat wacth over a piece of cheese

Aristide is the only Haitian that I trust to manage the $ 6 million.

"The Rational Mind"

Lautaro,
I read the essay. Outside of Africa, Haitian people represent the entire continent of Africa. Haitians collaborate with Black struggle around the world and particularly here in the U.S. It's not a coincidence that President Obama has chosen Haitian-American Patrick Gaspard as White House Political Director.

February is Black History Month. Haiti is seen as the beacon of freedom. VIVA HAITI. VIVA AFRICA. African-Americans are climbing up the political ladder at such an incredible speed. African-Americans have always had such an admiration for Haitians and their history, as a result, as African-Americans rise in the U.S. so do the Haitians. I can see a bright future for Haitian-Americans, Haitians and Haiti in the horizon.

Abraham Lincoln sent African-American Frederick Douglas to Haiti as the first U.S. ambassador to Haiti, Douglas said: "The freedom that has come to the colored race is largely due to the brave stand taken by the sons of Haiti".

"The Rational Mind"

Cross666 you just try too hard _
When you blow your horn too hard no sound comes out. Take a break do not post anymore comments .You are getting alittle redundant .
At the beginning you sound serious, then pedant, now redundant and later stupid.
Time off, take five.

etiennc
Yes I read that after 20 years in court the Swiss are finally going to release the money that was confiscated from Baby Doc Duvalier and give it to the Haitian government.
The moneys should be distributed as compensation to deserving widows and orphans of the
Duvalier regime in an even basis. That would be transparent because if the money is used to build a
monument or some other public work or infrastructure it will vanish in the pockets of the corrupt.
Jean Claude Duvalier was counting on that money since Michelle Bennet took everything else from him and kicked him out. I hear he is despondent and working odd jobs in France.
"No peace for the wicked"

etiennc
The Dominican government tried to go after Ramfis Trujillo's millions in a Swiss bank (The report said around $60 million dollars) around 1963-64 or so but gave up quickly. The Haitians I guess were more persistent, but this judgement creates a precedent and maybe the Dominican government can still try to get some of that money back from Ramfis widow plus the many businesses he left standing in Spain.

generoso,
The money that Swiss bank will disburse to Haiti is an other example why Pres. Aristide went back to Haiti the first time. Haitians and Haitian-Americans in the diaspora are working as hard as the first time to send Aristide back to Haiti a second time; therefore, persistence is correct.

"The Rational Mind"

Oh My GOD !!!!
Roso ,did you see what I just saw?
Just say yes or no !

Roso say something are you scared ?
Dr Jerkyll and Mr Hyde .Well , we are going to have fun !

Roso say something are you scared ?
Dr Jerkyll and Mr Hyde .Well , we are going to have fun !

since Haitians defeated Napoleon's army in the only successful slave revolution in history, Washington has made sure that Haiti remained a "dysfunctional" state "rife with poverty and violence." In the late 1980s a grassroots Haitian peoples movement forced an end to the reign of the U.S.-backed father and son dictatorships of "Papa Doc" and "Baby Doc" Duvalier.U.S.-trained paramilitaries launched attacks that began the 2004 operation to take JBA out from safe havens in the Dominican Republic.An April, 2004 St. Petersburg Times article on the paramilitaries explained, "They enjoyed the tacit support of the Dominican armed forces. We know everything and we r waiting for the right time we know about DR always let their soil to whoever planning something to destabilize Haiti, we know about all the crimes in Petit-Goave,St-Marc and Gonaives. We r just waiting, we r getting stronger and ready, but we will come.

http://www.haitianalysis.com/huma....istide-and-the-2004-coup-in-haiti if you have time read this.

Aristide will not go back to Haiti to run for office. I never say that. Aristide will return to Haiti as a private citizen. He will continue to run his humanitarrian non-profit organization. Since Aristide was the one who had the ball to disolve the Haitian army and the Tonton macoutes, who have caused so much pain to the Haitians; therefore, Aristide should be the one to administer the $6 million.

"The Voice of Reason"

haitiananalysis.com is obviuosly a pro Aristide organization.
Aristide grew feathers and begged the US to protect him since he didn't even trust his "blanc" macoute mercenaries of the Steele organization.
He signed his resignation letter and cried and begged for US
protection. The army's most secret and elite squad, so secret it does not have a name and is referred to as the "Intelligence Support Activity — aka the "Activity" was sent to protect Aristide from some of his own bodyguards that were suspected of selling out to the opposition.
The US should have left ungrateful Aristide to be fried in the palace by
Guy Philipe's armies that were closing in.
Instead they let ungrateful Aristide to woo them into taking him out of the country "to prevent bloodshed" as he stated in his cowardly letter.
Aristide is no only a machiavelical devil but he is also a fraud, has no substance or personal valor, and when the going got tough he ran like a chicken to safety.

"Written by: generoso, 13 Feb 2009 7:17 PM
From: United States
haitiananalysis.com is obviuosly a pro Aristide organization
"
Well said General, he should stay in africa, the man was a total fraud

antonioj and generoso,
Guys, I thought you were smarter than that. You believe in C.I.A. fabrication and propaganda BS. You are very naive.

Stay tuned for the trial of George W. Bush for kidnapping the Haitian hero Aristide. Bush & Co. will be tried for crimes against humanity also.

Check the Lavalas website for more info about the bill in U.S. Congress:
http://www.hayti.net/tribune/

"The Rational Mind"

Cruz666
I didn't get my facts from a "C.I.A. fabrication". I got them from an eye witness that was there.
Tell your friend the crazy ex-priest and ex-president of Haiti that his game is over, he had is
chance and he blew it. While he was president he behaved and treated others as he were a king. It must have been Henri Christophe ghost that possessed him.
And he become so inebriated with power that he even had close friends that made him what he
was, like Jean Dominique, cowardly assassinated.
Aristide was a murderer in his own backstabbing ways.
Unlike Trujillo who was a brutal and mean assassin but when confronted with death and
mortally wounded he had the balls to die like a man. Titi Aristide called and pleaded to the US embassy and told them he will do whatever it takes just get him out of Haiti, please.
The USA sent special forces, who put their lives at risk to guard him and escort him out, he then changed his mind, reneged his signed letter and

Con't
accused these brave men, that put their lives in harms way for this slime ball, of kidnapping.
What a disgusting chicken shit your great hero is.
If he is paying you, then it's ok because you are nothing but another mercenary selling his soul for money to the highest bidder.
If he is not, then I feel sorry for you. Your leader can not be trusted and he is not well in the head.
He is a "has been", he will never, repeat, never be president of Haiti again. He is just wasting his time and blowing his money. If he had any brains he will stay in his comfortable retirement in South Africa enjoying his blood money and living of the memories of the past glories and what could have been if he had not been distracted by absolute power, riches, fame and money.

okay guys today is valentines day , i just ask my wife two minutes to write this comments. it s funny to see some of you still behind ascreen posting comments. let s take to day off you have the rest of the year to be an a**hole. please if you don t have any find yourself someone for the valentines day,and you ll notice that posting on DT is not the only things in life...good luck hunters.

hateIam1804
Happy friendship day!
Please go back to Haiti permanently and do us all a big favor* Don't worry I will write and send you
new and improved flavor dirt cookies.
You won't be missed.
* PS And take all your brothers back with you! Except the fruit vendors of course.

and remember when your all alone at home and phone doesn't ring it will be us

You guys have to stop this back and fourth with Dominicans and Hatians crap! My mother is dominican and my father is also dominican , from my father side I have haitian blood because of my last name Montas, (french) research. I learn to accept that we domincans are not a pure breed race , we are mixed with Indians , spaniards and Africans so accept it my fello domincans ! I have notting against hatians I lived with them here in the USA for 8 years and learnd there culture , I love haitians they never in a anyway dist me or my family, so stop your racist crap!

elprado1 said: "I love haitians they never in a anyway dist me or my family, so stop your racist crap!"

I'm sure that, if you were living on Santo Domingo, you'd be singing another tune altogether, cuz' if you haven't realized it yet, this back and forth have an underlying cause that goes way beyond the racist label that misinformed people like you likes to assign it, and that cause goes by the name of ECONOMICS, son. The DR is not a wealthy country, so it sorts of goes without saying that it has to attend to the needs of its native poor citizens FIRST before attending the politically correct sensitivities of people like you by feeding the rejects from another society. You're so wrapped up in the comforts of american society that you are failing to realize how the poor citizens of your parents' country are being displaced by the private and government engineers and agrarians consortiums with their use of the cheap labour afforded by the haitian inmigrants (cont...)

(cont...) you'd have to be on their shoes to be able to understand the sense of betrayal that the dominican populace is feeling with the profit driven policy of the elites, a profit driven policy that will only do us increasing harm in the future, because today it's the lower echelons of the country's economy that haitian labour is dominating, but tomorrow, it could be the chief posts on the public and private sectors, and what do you think will happen to the dominican country and nation on that scenario, genius? It goes without saying that we are running the risk of ending up like the jewish people before 1948, that is, of becoming a stateless community, going from country to country living in secluded ghettos being scorned and persecuted by the populace of those hosts countries, cuz' by then we will be crying like women what we didn't have the guts to defend as men, that is, the land that our forefathers gave us, the only place on this earth where we're not foreigners. (cont...)

(cont...) you'd have to get used to that conflict, prado, cuz' it will only tend to worsen in the future, being this the textbook case of two populations fighting for the resources of the only place place of the island that have not being devastated (yet) by the failed economics schemes of man and the disastrous effects of nature, specially if the international community keeps looking to the other side by not assuming their responsibility of looking for workable solutions to the haitians' plight and takes the easy path of laying those problems at the dominicans feet. And believe me, no politically correct crap that you can produce will make a poor chiripero from the slums of Santo Domingo and Santiago take the bread out of his children's mouth to give it to a stranger that at the end of the day might not be grateful or thankful for that gesture.

As we speak there is constant US coast guard ships patrolling the Haitian shores to interdict any suspected refugee boats before they get close to US shores.
Also DT has stopped publishing articles on Haiti, they may even close this one out soon.

The reason for the last can be found on this article, general:

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/....opposes-uproar-in-Dominican-Today

Roso ,you know I always hate to disagree with you but one the issues that Dominicans must face is the Haitian migration. As long that the Haitian filthy elite continues to dump Haitians on Dominican soil this will continue to be a concern that we must address and solve.
Dominican Today provides a forum for brave respectful and civil engagements.
However if we can not monitor the debates ,learn to ignore useless comments by some, then DT should clock more comments when we start posting incendiary attacks

etiennc
DT does not have appear to have the manpower to police and monitor the threads.
Do not blame the Haitian elite only, the Dominicans that hire and abuse the Haitians paying them a
miserly wage and treating the like slaves are just as bad. It is a vicious circle of human exploitation.

Lautaro
Thanks for the thread I posted my comments already.
We might have to find another soap box to stand in sooner rather than later.
Capiche?

Please watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE81CLJJd7c

it s just a matter of time, just throw alook in the past to see.

Boss man, where you being? Working hard in the sugar cane fields?
DT has put a ban on Haitian articles but you guys now have your own Haiti site in the Forum.
How's sniping school?

I just hope that some day the racism would end not just only in my parent's home land but world wide. It's amazing how there are so much ignorance in not only our culture but in many other.

Can't there be a unity among us?

Move over Wyclef Jean, here comes the Bachatero direct from China:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AslYF0STrWk