Color me surprised ! Right I mean do they spend anything on education ...the average Dominican does not even know who Junot Diaz is but is still mourning Sammy " CORKY " Sosa ....everything is upside down but that is the way the politicos wanted it to be for years Teach the kids to drink their beer really cold and dance the dirty dog ....CHANGE OR YOU ARE DOOMED

FredCDobbs, another double lol and how little does the Dominican gov. spend? But we have the Metro

Alot of the parties are due to the number of tourist on the island on a daily basis. Dominicans can't help it but to join in

WOW it took this long for the Government see that Dominican Spend more money on Alcohol and Tobacco then in school. If the government want to make this a positive thing charge more for alcohol and tobacco

Thank You
Andrickson Alix

The One's in control would like to keep them Dumb,Drunk.Barefoot,& Pregnant !
It is much easier to control the masses that way! It is not just a DR problem though !
We do the same here in the USA with Welfare,Reality TV ! Same motive, just different methods!
Very Sad !!

They should have had a survey for how much money Dominican men spend on prostitutes every month and not on their wife and children. That would be off the charts. I have a Dominican MARRIED WITH CHILDREN friend here in Santiago that goes out solo EVERY night partying with whatever woman will sleep with him and he always complains he has no money for food. My so called "friend" is a piece of cr*p. I guess being MACHO includes cheating, drinking, smoking, drugs, and talking as
LOUD AS YOU CAN.

That's truth. And it is impossible to read a book because of so many radios turn on with loud music. And the few that go to university, study nonsense careers such as psycologia industrial which will keep them unemployed.

The government is also responsible, how many library do you find in the DR. Maybe 1 in the capital city. The government needs to promote more reading and open more libraries, so people and have a quiet place to read or study. Opening cybercafes will not help, because young Dominican will use the computer only access their emails, Hi5 page, and other stupidities.

so what is the news here....shame and more shame the education budget is a sham, but the dgii gets 563million in taxes and impuestos

Waytogo,
I think that survey would be at an 80% of men. You friend is wrong, I have a friend that does the same in Santiago but his family always has what they need first.

ZonaDominicana,
What are you talking about? Have you not been to Santiago lately??? The universities are full, but more women than men go to the uni

Whenever I am in his car with him, he always tries to pick up a woman on my side and rolls down the window and his language is far from gentlemanly. I told him one day someone is going to pull out a gun and shoot me. He also goes to the public university here and is always driving through the grounds looking and talking sh*t. He's a good hearted guy, he just has a serious hang up. I now drive with him very seldom. You are right, almost all women going to the universidad. I am currently putting my girlfriend through school to become a dentist. She is one Dominican that I am making sure that she will not be just another statistic. It seems more and more that women aren't loved here, they are owned. Time for lunch. A big bowl of 7 meat San Cocho. Hmmmmmmm

Oh! really. So finally America was discovered. Since when have Dominicans been interested in anything worthwhile other than stuffing their gullets, getting something for nothing, pour alcoholic anything down their hatches, buying clothes, going to barbershops/beauty salons, and partying until told to go home. Well this has been none since FOREVER. I always wonder how people get any work done because it is one big old frat house. Party time all the time.

I am 61 years old. Past my partying days. I guess that is a priority everywhere with the young ones today. If these young people only saw what the older people know, I think it would be very very different. I am not one of those gringos that came here to party. I am going to teach English here amongst other things and try to better the few locals I encounter. I always feel that I am among an island full of children that because of total isolation from the outside world (vast majority) they just are uneducated and really don't know any better. A common language is hanging out and just trying to feel good. I don't blame them, I blame the system for constantly forgetting about the masses. Can you possibly imagine if the majority went to school, learned to read and write, and then have a fighting chance of bettering themselves. This place would be a paradise. Have you ever heard the saying "youth is wasted on the young" ? Got to go. Cooking chicken and dumplings for my girl.

Waytogo,
you friend sounds like my cusin, everytime he is in my SUV he tries to pick up girls around Santiago. I think to myself... The women are not looking at the passengers they are looking at the driver. Does your friend always want to hang out at Kelvin car wash in Santiago? lol
Where in Santiago are you going to teach english? My fiance is a dentist and she needs to practice her english more in order to get into a university in the States to pass the liscense exam for USA.

PEOPLE

yeah we drink and hump alot
why do you think the world loves DR so much?

Is not because or intellectual prowess or human skills, is because we're generally happier than everybody else, we have a beatiful country and drinking and dancing is on our DNA, our music is known worldwide and everybody in the planet wants to come to DR and make babies.

So stop over analyzing the subject and LET"S GO PARTY.

my girl just grab the mamajuana bottle. hooo y ahora quien podra defenderme


have a nice weekend losers!!!!!

I am not surprised, they don't have money to eat but when Friday comes around they have money to drink. Its really sad to see. Partying is great but feed your children for god sake.

Rompecintura!!!!!!!!!

I think the numbers are skewed... I think people spend even LESS on education, they just didn't want to admit it on the survey and increased their figures.

old school, i love your devil may care style. you are going to outlive all of us (unless you get hit by a drunk who has just left the car wash) this thread has the most accurate portrayals of the dominican zeitgeist that you will ever see. but, it is not just a DR problem. other caribbean islanders are the same. go read the book DONT STOP THE CARNIVAL. you guys are all really insightful in your comments. it is as though most of the folks are stuck in a condition known as "protracted adolescence", and nobody bothers to grow up. nothing is serious. a guy will spend 500 pesos on drinks in a car wash, and go home in the dead of night on a motorcycle with no lights. forget the fact that the bulbs only cost 20 pesos. but, that is a minor annoyance. the really important thing is to hear the same antony santos song he has been listening to since 2005.,

PART 1 OF 2
This is very sad but SO TRUE. I have a small American English Academy located in Jarabacoa. Every month I have about 10 new students sign up for English classes. Out of the ten that register 8 are female and 2 are male. Jarabacoa is very different from other cities like Puerto Plata, Santiago and Santo Domingo. The People here are more educated and want to do more in their lives and there children’s life. I teach children starting at the age of 6 up to adults. I run my school as if it were in the United States. This country has a holiday just about every week of the month. I tell my students that too many holidays is not doing them any good and that we only recognize International Holidays such as Christmas, New years, etc. I do agree that most of the Dominican people have their priorities in the wrong place and I am trying to make a difference.

PART 2 OF 2
. I have a student that her father is a local attorney and one day in class we are talking about the different members of the family when I come to realize that her father has two homes with two wives and two sets of children. The young girl wanted to know how she would refer to her other sisters in English. I was floored when I learned about the second wife who is my neighbor. I think that the Government needs to do more for education in this country, but its like some one else wrote that the government want to keep them uneducated. This is why I came to this country to try to make a change. With more private schools like mine we cane make a change. Its not easy but we can do it one student at a time and then the others want to follow. You can see my class on myspace http://www.myspace.com/academialatinaamericana

El Profe

How could you expect a country could be improved to a better life style if you spend more money on partying than schooling?

This is a trade-off, you want more fun, then you can not complain the life is suffering even we all know the government is not helping too much on a lot of things, but if you have a little bit common sense, you know you have to establish a strong foundation (education, spending control...etc) for you life to be advanced in the future.

it is part of our folklore.but it is part or our underdevelopment.
if you see our country uptoday,you can feel that the rums stuff in domican republic it is just part of the daily living.

People shouldn’t be surprise, things have been this way since way before I born; yet still I hear the phrase “E pa’ lante que vamos” just because we got a metro, ignorance is really a very bad thing and the worst of all is that the future Dominican generation is leading to the same or even worse way of living. God help us all!!!

i had an experience this week that really made me sit up and take notice. i gave a young man of about 25 years old a broken fiberglass lamp to repair. it was a small crack, and i could have probably repaired it myself, but, being too busy for on the job training, i gave it to someone reputed to work with that material. he promised to have it back to me that same afternoon, as the crack was only 4 inches long. well, it was manana, manana, manana, until i got it back today. when i went to pick it up this morning, the result was atrocious. i could have done a better job in my sleep. i was furious, and asked him if he realistically expected me to pay him for doing more damage than good with his effort. his response? "i thought you just wanted me to fix the crack"!!!i ssured him that not only did i want the crack removed, but i expected the appearance of the lamp to be acceptable, also. so, he told me to come back this afternoon. lo and behold, he was ready, and the work was exemplary

which brings me to the moral of the story. it is not as if people here cannot physically and mentally get the job done. it is because they want to get the most, with the least effort. he charged me an arm and a leg, then reciprocates by giving me something worthless. until people take pride in what they do, the country will continue to languish in retrogression. until they realise the honor of putting one's best foot forward, and stop thinking about ways to short-change each other, we are in deep doo-doo.

wow, thats very sad,
so you dominicans spend more money on partying than schooling????
what does partying do for you
we all know what that means....

your are on the good way,keep the party on.

not the way togo I can see from the fact you have only 9 posts you plan to go out in a blaze of shame .Your horribly inflated insults serve no positive purpose except to induce the xenophobic to become even more so thus we will be able to easily identify that nutty end of the spectrum However please refrain from throwing this kind of turd into the fan as it reflects on all non native Dominicans who do not remotely feel the way you do TROLL

and Gringo from Poutinville only comes in the winter to keep from freezing to death in Canadas frozen Wasteland but at least most people apart from him can get a decent education there

Hola Fred,
It will never cease to amaze me that people are offended by the truth. For the moment, I just got tired of being so politically correct. I just do not understand why there are people that keep saying it is so beautiful here and everybody's happy, people are content, blah blah blah blah. The whole island doesn't live on the coast with white sand and a beautiful ocean. People, a LOT of people are suffering in a big way. This is NOT a party country, it is a hungry country. Hundreds of thousands of people do not eat a meal every day. When people tell these stories that it is so beautiful, so great, everybody's happy, you will have the time of your life here ( YAH ) yhe tourist will have a great time, they come with a pocket full of money, credit cards and a suitcases full of their homeland niceties. If nobody takes their head out of the sand, people who have never been here will never know the truth. I have been living in Santiago for over 3 years please tell me how I lied.

waytogo,
there are also many good parts. just drive 45 min to SAJOMA you can see the beautiful mountains and rivers. Yes there are bad people but the majority are nice, the women, the food, the music.

sounds like way togo has been recently returned to the island possibly wearing an orange jumpsuit and bracelets possibly not but whether that be the case he is very negative and would rather be someplace else but is trapped where he is

waytogo

if it is so bad in DR , Why don't you do everybody a favor and kill yourself.
or better yet, move to the west side of the island with the 2.5 millions of your ungrateful compatriots.

The only reazon you hate my people so much is because you can never be Dominican.

pobre diablo sin identidad

fred

the only reazon the way2go said such a thing is because he was beaten over the head by a dominican triciculero and now the whole dominican nation is out to get him.

He tried to live in santiago for 3 yrs because his country is a jungle, now that he's been wrong by a dominican and he hates everybody.

way2go
move closer to the border, somewhere in jimani, there you'll fit better with the rest of the population. maybe your business of selling fake avon's deodorant will take off overthere.

I really like to see everybody's true colors and when I say things like I do, It brings it all out,
DOESN'T IT!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are WAAAAAAAAY to easy. Now YOU are not politically correct. It takes saying a lot of crap to bring out the real you. Waytoeasy 4 Waytogo.

Thank you everybody for making my day. Even talking crap back at me, I got your blood going without all that previous slobber talk before I posted. Somebody had to wake you guys up. I was starting to feel like all of you needed to be bitch slapped. NOW U R TALKING LIKE MEN........

@ FredCDobbs, 22 Jun 2009 6:53 AM
From: Mexico, Sierra Madre.

Voilà le commentaire d'un homme qui vie dans un pays sous-développé.
Faut grandir mon homme.

@ FredCDobbs, 22 Jun 2009 6:53 AM
From: Mexico, Sierra Madre.

Voilà le commentaire d'un homme qui vie dans un pays sous-développé.
Faut grandir mon homme.

I do live in an underdeveloped country. I also speak 6 languages fluently.

So far I have been told:

1. I was returned to the island in an orange jumpsuit and bracelets.
2. I was beaten over the head with a triciculero.
3. I should kill myself.
4. I am a Troll
5. I am trapped here
6. I was told I have 9 posts when in fact at the time it was 14. Learn to read Fred.
7. I was wronged by a Dominican
8. I hate Dominicans because I can never be one.
9. I sell fake Avon deodorant
10. I should move close to Jimani
11. move to the west side of the island with the 2.5 millions of your ungrateful compatriots.

you gotta love it.... thank you for making my day, girls

12. What comes out of your mouth is pure 100% mierda

13. Look @ yourself in the mirror and ask Why I'm such a loser.

14. If I hate dominicans so much why don't I go somewhere people like me. (good luck with that one) maybe your family will take you back.

15. Consider changing your name to Tony Echavarria " Cambumbo"

16. You going to need something more powerful than deodorant to sell your brothers and sisters, maybe ammonia will do the trick.

17. Si te bañaras entre semana quizas la gente en santiago te tratara mejor.

18. don't get on the caribe tours bus between Mao y Santiago if you don't want be send to juana mendez non stop.

19. People like you always get verbally abuse in this site, don't worry you're not the only one.

20. You have to love DR, we treat you like an animal and you still won't leave to where you're from originally. i guess your native land is worst.

To: old_school_trinitario,
I come from Zimbabwe and I am prince Baddabing. I am from a small village in the eastern province of papaoomowmow. I have 1 leg and a long neck that I carry dead antelopse for my 32 wives and 122 children. I party like a cockapoopoo and my wives look at my privates and always yell WAAAAAASSSS
UP!!!!!! After years with my women I decided to go to Santiago and check out wassss happenen here. I left my wives and children behind and last I heard, they got eaten by a wild herd of chickens. Now, how terrible is that I ask you. I can't return because I am raising a dog to bark the Dominican National anthem. I love everything in the D.R. except the chickens. Bad memories.

What a Fu*k-up thread...... Yes the DR leaves much to be desired in many ways, but overall has good people who long for a better life. They are somewhat limited due to the social structure and lack of basis education.

Stop the insults, you are beginning to make me look bad !!!

if you guys know anything about frederic angel and carlos marx they both developed the ideas about the socialist thought.they sustained that in a society divided in classes the low class will always appeal for any vicious just to try to relief the pain created by its reality.
so what is happening in dr it is just that a population hopeless,starving sunken in the corruption with all its politicians just want the welfare of them and their families,a country with no education,a society,with no values is just the perfect scenario for the frustation of the people.

i am not mean just go and become a comunist it is just a thought that can logicly
explain our reality.

waytogo


my bad

i didn't know you were a lunatic

i take all the boches i unleash upon you.

Sorry everyone, I've just been having fun at everybody's expense. I sincerely apologize .I would like to clear the air on one thing. I love it here and admire all the people I see every day doing whatever to survive. It gets so exhausting every day hearing the same rhetoric day in and day out and nothing ever changes. It is like an old O'JAYS song, the rich get rich and the poor get poorer. But really, wasn't it good letting loose and feel the blood rise to your neck? Reading your comments, I got to tell ya, I haven't laughed like this in a long time. Now everybody, rest easy, there isn't a lunatic on the loose in Santiago. On a daily basis I help my friends and neighbors as often as I can with food and money and I do not feel I am being taken advantage of. And "old _school_ trinitario", I hope you didn't break a blood vessel. You're great. Peace Everybody, and long live the D.R.