Haiti is our colony accept it. We have a civilizing mission over there. We Dominican's will help Haiti become a real country.

Yocahu,,
After we build the wall,,

Yocahu,,
After we build the wall,,

yucahu, please refer to your history to find out who was who's colony.LAVERITE.-

Who was whose colony? Immaterial. Irrelevant.

It's like that Bible thing about the promised land. Immaterial. Irrelevant.

Reality: a 150% SNAFU country needs help and the closest available is a 80% SNAFU country.

El que no llora no mama.

Aquellos lloran mucho. Es lo único que saben hacer. Y se pegan de la teta mas cercana.

Laverite, You Haitians can't even run a hot dog stand! Those days when you ran this side of the island. That was the worst period of economic retrogression the country had ever recorded. Look at you now, need i say more LOL.

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WalterPolo,who was who's colony? Factual, not biblical. ElFactor, again go to your history and you'll see that we lent you money to fight your liberation wars. If it wasn't for us you would still be a colony of Spain or France, or England or the U.S.or whoever you were ready to prostitute yourself. Come on try to be consequent with yourself and admit the truth.CARLOSFRANCO,you seal the border WHICH WILL NEVER BE DONE and your economy drops dead. LAVERITE.

this is to all the hatahs that keep saying haiti sucks and haiti is nothing. dr is better off then haiti but dr is still not perfect, that's why theres thousands and thousands of dominicans over here in puerto rico with alot of them being illegal. people go where opportunity is, that's just how life is.

Laverite: Haiti has been a failed state since it's independence from France. The people in Haiti that have govern you have enslaved you; Toussaint, Dessalines, Christophe. You Haitians have been enslaved by your own liberators? Do you know what is a cocomacac, it's the equivalent of the French whip. http://books.google.com/books?id=....acac%20haitian%20whip&f=false

Teach Factor teach!!!!!

To ElFactor ,let me give you a lesson in Dominican History which you seem to so deceitfully ignore and I quote a Dominican author Jaime de Jesus Diminguez in his book HISTORIA DOMINICANA, page 95 "El 8 de noviembre de 1821 y en los siguientes dias, Beller,Dajabon,Montecristi y otros pueblos de la region norte, deseososde que se aboliera la esclavitud y ansiosos de salir de la crisis economica en que se encontraban, enviaron delegados a Puerto Principe, para solicitar al presidente haitiano que aceptara la union de esos pueblos con Haiti. De haberse efectuado dicha union, los haitianos inmediatamente habrian abolido la esclavitud,cuyor males conocian por haber sido la mayoria de ellos esclavos" See what we did for you?

TO ELFACTOR, more lessons:On page 146 of the same book, I quote"El primer gobierno de Gonzalez estuvo escaso de fondos.Para paliar la falta de dinera en las arcas publicas,acordo un tratado con el presidente haitiano Michel Domingue,de fecha el 9 de noviembre de 1874, mediante el cual Haiti pagaria al Estado dominicano 150,000 pesos oro anualmente durante un periodo de ocho anos, a cambio de la legalizacion del trafico comercial que se venia incrementando de manera ilegal por la frontera desde 1861. See what we did again for you? And we are still doing? So stop vomitting your senseless, childish, despicable arguments which can only come from an obviously retarded individual. If you can't come with some intelligent arguments, which apparently you can't, just shut up and learn your history.LAVERITE.

Laverite: The majority of the Dominican population was not black or slave, that's first. Second the border towns were full of Haitians that encroached in Dominican lands, so those inhabitants naturally wanted to unify with Haiti. Third, Boyer anxious to expand his control over the entire island sent agents, to spread false propaganda and to express that he would be a pacifier, not like Toussaint or Dessalines which caused violence and death earlier in the same century. Another thing Boyer instituted the rural code in the east Santo Domingo and destroyed the communal land owners system of agriculture, while attempting to re-install a full scale plantation system of old. Forced labor under the gun and machete was used against many poor Dominican campesinos. Remember the east Santo Domingo was under heavy Haitian military influence, the west Haiti was not under the same military governance, although they also had a small but negligible presence there also. CONT...

CONTINUED... And why this occur smarty pants, to make Dominicans pay for a debt they never conceived. The debt was applied to Haitians not Dominicans, by the French.

Teach Factor teach!!!!!

ElFactor, you are again confused in your knowledge of your history because the debt that the french imposed on Haiti was to recognize our independance and accepted by BOYER had nothing to do with the Dominican Republic. The loan that our president Michel Domingue gave to your president Ignacio Maria Gonzalez was to help him face its financial difficulties.LAVERITE.

ElFactor, you are again confused in your knowledge of Dominican history. The money the french through their king Charles X imposed on Haiti and accepted by Boyer was to recognized our independance and has nothing to do with the loan that our president Michel Domingue of 150.000 pesos oro to your president Ignacio Maria Gonzalez in order to face the financial difficulties that he had. An other example of how we helped you get on your feet and it's not over yet. LAVERITE.

Before i answer the debt question, Laverite. The French requested and negotiated the debt from Haiti in 1825, with Boyer's approval. The payment was supposed to be paid in installments, which the Haitians did not pay in due time, which naturally caused the interest rates to sky rocket. Which in turn put the country in a downward economic spiral, but is not the cause of Haiti's woes. Although many ignorant people use the debt excuse to paint a grim picture of Haiti's problem with unending poverty, that has existed since Haiti's independence from France. But anyone with an open mind know this is not true. Haiti's poverty and underdevelopment is caused by government corruption, ineptitude, and internal racism, etc...

Now as far as the debt conceived by Haiti from France is concerned, all history records point out, that the debt was imposed on the Dominican people, by the Haitian government headed by Boyer. On another note who cares about any alleged loan the Haitian government lend the Dominican government. Didn't this happen after the facts, after we became independent, and liberated ourselves through the death of so many, and the shedding of innocent blood, from the oppressive and barbaric Haitian yoke... So what's you're point!!!!!

He has no point Factor, he's pointless beyond belief.

Teach Factor teach!

Factor, I refer to your first unnecessary and mean comment about Haiti when we are the ones who got you out of slavery, contributed and is still contributing to the development of your country whether in your sugar industry, your agriculture, your tourism, your constructions as acknowledge by your own government. We represent the second most important export market besides the U.S. for your products and to that effect, as an example, I refer you to the october 4 edition of Listin Diario, a notice by the ASOCIACION NACIONAL DE PRODUCTORES DE HUEVOS,INC, who said that "aun se mantienen muchas trabas y dificultades para la exportacion de huevos hacia Haiti, que es nuestro unico mercado de exportacion y que en los ultimos anos lo hemos perdido, con la actitud paqsiva y la mirada indiferente de nuestras autoridades" And after the tremor, we are probably your most important export market. It's true that the dog always bite the hand that feeds him, but stop discrediting Haiti.

Factor(CONT), and acknowledge that we need each other and if there was a more intelligent approach to the problems that both countries are facing we would be the first ones to benefit on both sides.El pasado a pasado and let's build for the future.
Since he is insisting so much, I can not resist answering Wehaitiano that his hermanas who are making a living here and a good one do apply his formula with success. Coingradulations.LAVERITE.

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zzzzz indeed...who cares what happened in the past.

deal with the present....2 million dark...did i say very dark/poor/uneducated haitians have invaded DR.

and the Dominicans are incapable of doing anything about it.

what a shame....lol...lol

Mind you're own business stupid, above!