President René Préval and Rafael Alburquerque, head of the Dominican delegation which visited Por-au-Prince.
Santo Domingo.- A meeting between Haitian and Dominican technicians slated for will Saturday looks to discuss a plan for the re-foundation of the former in the mid and long term, said Economy minister Temístocles Montas yesterday.
He said Haiti Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive has reiterated that more than Haiti’s reconstruction what it needs is re-foundation, since its deterioration is not only in material but also in institutional terms, which motivates thinking about not only reconstructing it but about creating the new Haiti.
"I believe that’s Dominican Republic’s interests and as such we’re going to work in the draft of an action plan, to present it to the international community to manage the financing to start it," the official said.
Montas’ statements come after he visited Port-au-Prince with a delegation headed by Vice president Rafael Alburquerque on Saturday, which included Ibero-America General Secretary Enrique Iglesias.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
in the best interests of ourselves and our neighbor ....with compassion and integrity and justice
Written by: generoso, 10 Feb 2010 9:42 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Re-foundation is the new fancy word that is now coined by the hungry toll gaters, that are salivating to get their claws on the aid moneys.
I am suspect of any moves that places decision making authority on the discredited Haitian kleptocrats, and oppose any attempts from them to "manage" the finances of the reconstruction funds, even in partnership of their Dominican counterparts.
A well informed political analyst recently said, that the difference between the DR and Haiti corruption, is that in DR 40% of the government income evaporates through commissions, corruption and graft, and in Haiti the figure is 95%, and the end user only benefits with 5%.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Well said Genoroso .....Let us hope Bubba and the rest scrutinize this enough to up those numbers on both sides of the border
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
how about the re-foundation of the dominican republic ! ! ! !
From: United States, Chicago, IL
Typo: Haiti Prime Minister Jean-MAX Bellerive
Written by: Belial, 10 Feb 2010 12:21 PM
From: United States, Texas
Yesterday, in Quito, Ecuador, Preval said he's looking for aid for reconstruction chiefly for roads, agriculture, and health care.
Involvement of DR is likely to expand in all 3 areas, especially with roads and agriculture, since the ALBA countries and the UNSUR countries are already making big moves in the areas of health care. For example, The Cubans and Venezuelans have already begun construction of new hospitals in Port au Prince and throughout Haiti. UNSUR countries, in Quito, Ecuador yesterday, promised medical supplies, equipment, construction materials, financing, and personnel for the ALBA effort.
UNSUR agreed yesterday to set up $100M Haitian fund and to guarantee repayment of $200M loan from IADB to Haiti.
This $300M in cash from UNSUR seems headed chiefly for health care, supervised by Haiti, ALBA, and UNSUR.
If it isn't stolen, US imperialist-supervised aid will go chiefly for roads and agriculture. The DR bourgeoisie should get most of the contracts.
From: United States
what about the bilionaires gang in Haiti?
Wouild they invest some of their wealth in the reconstruction of Haiti or are they positioning themeselves to use this tragey to make more money
From: United States
if there is one message that nature has tried to convey via this earthquake is that Haiti must reconstructed from scrath.
The old way to make money, the old way to govern. the old way to treat the poor, the old to construct must be discarded.
Written by: generoso, 10 Feb 2010 2:01 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
etiennc01
You well know that the Haitian "elite" has one foot in Miami and one foot in Haiti in case things turn sour. We had the same thing happen in DR for many years, and still do but not to the same extent as before. It is a matter of instilling confidence in investors, so they will know that the rules will not change overnight and they will be totally broke in one day, after a change in government.
Written by: riosm, 10 Feb 2010 4:40 PM
From: United States
HEY ! Belial,
Good thing rebuilding Haiti does not include your beloved Castro's Cuba and Hugo-a-go-go from Venezuela.
Another good thing........Cuba and Venezuela steals before shipment to Haiti.
Written by: Tommy, 10 Feb 2010 5:16 PM
From: Canada, Northern Ontario
A third UNCONNECTED party HAS to look after signing ALL cheques for EVERYTHING!
That is all I have to say, if anybody is listening.
Have a good day, if you can.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Tommy Happy Face checks in from the frozen tundra but always sunny .....Hi Tommy !
Written by: Belial, 10 Feb 2010 7:44 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Wouild they invest some of their wealth in the reconstruction of Haiti or are they positioning themeselves to use this tragey to make more money?" Etiennc01 ask.
oooo
Etiennc01,
A point of clarification, who are "they?"
Most likely, the DR bourgeoisie is "they," but "they" could also be other groups mentioned?
If "they" are the DR bourgeoisie, then "they" will likely get get juicy contracts from the Haitians and ALBA-UNSUR aid donors to deliver certain goods and services, related to roads and agriculture, requiring performance within a given of period. The DR bourgeoisie has a pretty reputation doing this kind of thing.
Since "coordinated" EU, Canadian, Pacific, and some Asian aid for Haiti will, as usual, go through US imperialist hands and through the FED branch bank in NYC; obviously, a lot of this aid for Haiti will be stolen by US imperialist thieves. But a good chunk of money should be left-over in which the DR bourgeoisie can partake.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Belial the scum paints a rosy picture trying to divert us from Nutty hugo going down the crapper
Written by: Belial, 10 Feb 2010 8:03 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Good thing rebuilding Haiti does not include your beloved Castro's Cuba and Hugo-a-go-go from Venezuela," Riosm loudly celebrates his obvious error.
0000
The working classes of both Cuba and Venezuela, the heart of the ALBA alliance, have already begun their reconstruction effort in Haiti. Cuban construction crews, with Venezuelan assistance, are building eight different hospitals all over Haiti. The Cuban workers often export, for cash, these hospitals to other countries all over the world, especially China, India, and Vietnamn. Amazingly, three of these permanent structures are already in partial operations ... treating patients ... after only three weeks of construction work.
At the moment, recconstruction aid from worthless big capitalist countries is nothing but pledges of future aid. Some cappie countries pledged aid 2 years ago when horrifying hurricanes struck Haiti. But the worthless big capitalist countries delivered only about a quarter of what they pledged.
Written by: Belial, 10 Feb 2010 8:12 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Belial the scum paints a rosy picture trying to divert us from Nutty hugo going down the crapper ," GC freaks in a spasm of cappie rage.
oooo
GC,
Your immoderate language is wasted here because most people here, unlike you, are firmly civilized.
GC, you are not firmly civilized. You need more work done on you.
Belial
Written by: riosm, 10 Feb 2010 9:49 PM
From: United States
Belial,
There you go again over flowing with the same crap, day in day out.
The next time you get sick or injured report to us all about what great medical treatment you received in Cuba, Venezuela, China, Vietnam, India or Haiti O.K.
The same with all Socialist / Communist Countries........plenty and plenty of nothing !
Written by: Belial, 10 Feb 2010 10:05 PM
From: United States, Texas
"There you go again over flowing with the same crap, day in day out. The next time you get sick or injured report to us all about what great medical treatment you received in Cuba, Venezuela, China, Vietnam, India or Haiti O.K.The same with all Socialist / Communist Countries........plenty and plenty of nothing !" Riosm vents.
oooo
Riosm,
You are beginning to sound like GC.
Beware, for GC is given to fits and spasms of cappie rage.
Belial
Written by: generoso, 10 Feb 2010 10:39 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya
cbelk99
FYI: Belial is in a federal prison in Texas, that is why he is always so bitter about the USA.
Written by: jonbonz, 11 Feb 2010 12:08 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
What I see happening is that the international community will basically have a civil servant joined at the hip with a Haitian counterpart for about a decade. The money will flow but it will be watched. Now the failed collectives around the world will not have the where with all to come up with the resources to help so the evil capitalist countries will have to step in take over where they have failed. Free speech, legitimate court system and effective press may all be in the works. That is of course as long as the Marxist do not really get involved.
Written by: jonbonz, 11 Feb 2010 12:20 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
The speed and amount of the Marxist nations contribution is staggering. The shear amount of publications and propaganda that will help facilitate the proper cleaning of the hind parts in the latrines will truly help with the overall relief effort.
Written by: jonbonz, 11 Feb 2010 12:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
Meanwhile the Marxist leader of Venezuelans power company is urging employees to attend a prayer meeting to get divine intervention to help fix the energy crisis in the western hemispheres largest oil exporter.
Written by: jonbonz, 11 Feb 2010 1:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic, santo domingo
I am trying to see if I can spew as many useless and unimportant post as Belial but finding difficulty without some kind of useless propaganda book to quote. Anybody have any useless references I can plagiarize?
I could always use Mein Kampf but Belial would probably like it too much.
Written by: pelaut, 11 Feb 2010 8:21 AM
From: United States
What do they mean by "technicians" of re-foundation? Complete horse hockey! Technicians!
If the DR puts its mitts in reforming Haitian institutions, they will be blamed by all the world as well as the Haitians in perpetuity. Bad move. Let the US take the blame with its colorful president.
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
Pelaut
Let the US take the blame with its colorful President
-----------------------------------------------------------
It burns you the fact that POTUS is a black man,a true African at that, hell his grandmother still lives in the village in Kenya. Guess what his Political Director Patrick Gaspard is Haitian. As Don king always say only in America. Get over it, its black man time in the world. Have not you heard negrophiliac is truly in vogue at the moment. Its the latest rage in Europe, in the street of Paris,its the latest must have for those beautiful blond Parisian white women,a negro in their arms.
Written by: cantave, 12 Feb 2010 1:48 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
"Botswana, Seatin here in Gaborone having a drink with Ms Pussy Galore"
Pussy Galore
22 August 1925 (age 84)
She is kind of old.
Well!
If DR help haiti now it will be rewarded 100 years from now.
"Lo que se siembra se cosecha"
¿Uno cosecha lo que siembra?
si si si es verdad.
Written by: riosm, 12 Feb 2010 5:37 PM
From: United States
Belial,
I'm jealous you have Sean Penn-head.......on your side.
Who by the way growing up in Santa Monica [about 10 miles west of my home] from what I'm told was a real wussy.
Beginning to sound like GC.....I'm honored.
Written by: Belial, 12 Feb 2010 6:02 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Beginning to sound like GC.....I'm honored," Riosm says.
oooo
Yes, you're honored; but GC, I believe, isn't.
Written by: riosm, 12 Feb 2010 10:16 PM
From: United States
Belial,
Why don't you do something useful........why don't you volunteer some of your time to the Haitian relief....at least you can report to us from your EYE WITNESS reports, better yet help your beloved commie Cubans and Socialist Caca Venezuelans structure their great Socialist Country's and grow a beard a home for the flies and lice.
As for GC that's for GC to decide after all he still has the total freedom to do so.
Written by: Belial, 13 Feb 2010 1:19 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Why don't you do something useful........why don't you volunteer some of your time to the Haitian relief....at least you can report to us from your EYE WITNESS reports, better yet help your beloved commie Cubans and Socialist Caca Venezuelans structure their great Socialist Country's and grow a beard a home for the flies and lice," Riosm asks and suggests.
oooo
I wouldn't waste my time telling you, Riosm, what to do and where to go.
As for your superior and useful cappies ... or capitalists ... I hope, worldwide, they soon emerge from bankruptcy.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
slobbering commie swine belial continues to spew propaganda .........we are not amused
Written by: riosm, 13 Feb 2010 10:10 PM
From: United States
Belial is a under cover Cuban news [propaganda] reporter in hiding.......
Been there, and was told you were not home.
"soon emerge from bankruptcy" Your right......in the US election of 2012, bye bye OH'Blama.
As another example to the world BALLOTS over BULLETS.
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Re-foundation is the new fancy word that is now coined by the hungry toll gaters, that are salivating to get their claws on the aid moneys.
I am suspect of any moves that places decision making authority on the discredited Haitian kleptocrats, and oppose any attempts from them to "manage" the finances of the reconstruction funds, even in partnership of their Dominican counterparts.
A well informed political analyst recently said, that the difference between the DR and Haiti corruption, is that in DR 40% of the government income evaporates through commissions, corruption and graft, and in Haiti the figure is 95%, and the end user only benefits with 5%.
Involvement of DR is likely to expand in all 3 areas, especially with roads and agriculture, since the ALBA countries and the UNSUR countries are already making big moves in the areas of health care. For example, The Cubans and Venezuelans have already begun construction of new hospitals in Port au Prince and throughout Haiti. UNSUR countries, in Quito, Ecuador yesterday, promised medical supplies, equipment, construction materials, financing, and personnel for the ALBA effort.
UNSUR agreed yesterday to set up $100M Haitian fund and to guarantee repayment of $200M loan from IADB to Haiti.
This $300M in cash from UNSUR seems headed chiefly for health care, supervised by Haiti, ALBA, and UNSUR.
If it isn't stolen, US imperialist-supervised aid will go chiefly for roads and agriculture. The DR bourgeoisie should get most of the contracts.
Wouild they invest some of their wealth in the reconstruction of Haiti or are they positioning themeselves to use this tragey to make more money
The old way to make money, the old way to govern. the old way to treat the poor, the old to construct must be discarded.
You well know that the Haitian "elite" has one foot in Miami and one foot in Haiti in case things turn sour. We had the same thing happen in DR for many years, and still do but not to the same extent as before. It is a matter of instilling confidence in investors, so they will know that the rules will not change overnight and they will be totally broke in one day, after a change in government.
Good thing rebuilding Haiti does not include your beloved Castro's Cuba and Hugo-a-go-go from Venezuela.
Another good thing........Cuba and Venezuela steals before shipment to Haiti.
That is all I have to say, if anybody is listening.
Have a good day, if you can.
oooo
Etiennc01,
A point of clarification, who are "they?"
Most likely, the DR bourgeoisie is "they," but "they" could also be other groups mentioned?
If "they" are the DR bourgeoisie, then "they" will likely get get juicy contracts from the Haitians and ALBA-UNSUR aid donors to deliver certain goods and services, related to roads and agriculture, requiring performance within a given of period. The DR bourgeoisie has a pretty reputation doing this kind of thing.
Since "coordinated" EU, Canadian, Pacific, and some Asian aid for Haiti will, as usual, go through US imperialist hands and through the FED branch bank in NYC; obviously, a lot of this aid for Haiti will be stolen by US imperialist thieves. But a good chunk of money should be left-over in which the DR bourgeoisie can partake.
0000
The working classes of both Cuba and Venezuela, the heart of the ALBA alliance, have already begun their reconstruction effort in Haiti. Cuban construction crews, with Venezuelan assistance, are building eight different hospitals all over Haiti. The Cuban workers often export, for cash, these hospitals to other countries all over the world, especially China, India, and Vietnamn. Amazingly, three of these permanent structures are already in partial operations ... treating patients ... after only three weeks of construction work.
At the moment, recconstruction aid from worthless big capitalist countries is nothing but pledges of future aid. Some cappie countries pledged aid 2 years ago when horrifying hurricanes struck Haiti. But the worthless big capitalist countries delivered only about a quarter of what they pledged.
oooo
GC,
Your immoderate language is wasted here because most people here, unlike you, are firmly civilized.
GC, you are not firmly civilized. You need more work done on you.
Belial
There you go again over flowing with the same crap, day in day out.
The next time you get sick or injured report to us all about what great medical treatment you received in Cuba, Venezuela, China, Vietnam, India or Haiti O.K.
The same with all Socialist / Communist Countries........plenty and plenty of nothing !
oooo
Riosm,
You are beginning to sound like GC.
Beware, for GC is given to fits and spasms of cappie rage.
Belial
FYI: Belial is in a federal prison in Texas, that is why he is always so bitter about the USA.
I could always use Mein Kampf but Belial would probably like it too much.
If the DR puts its mitts in reforming Haitian institutions, they will be blamed by all the world as well as the Haitians in perpetuity. Bad move. Let the US take the blame with its colorful president.
Let the US take the blame with its colorful President
-----------------------------------------------------------
It burns you the fact that POTUS is a black man,a true African at that, hell his grandmother still lives in the village in Kenya. Guess what his Political Director Patrick Gaspard is Haitian. As Don king always say only in America. Get over it, its black man time in the world. Have not you heard negrophiliac is truly in vogue at the moment. Its the latest rage in Europe, in the street of Paris,its the latest must have for those beautiful blond Parisian white women,a negro in their arms.
Pussy Galore
22 August 1925 (age 84)
She is kind of old.
Well!
If DR help haiti now it will be rewarded 100 years from now.
"Lo que se siembra se cosecha"
¿Uno cosecha lo que siembra?
si si si es verdad.
I'm jealous you have Sean Penn-head.......on your side.
Who by the way growing up in Santa Monica [about 10 miles west of my home] from what I'm told was a real wussy.
Beginning to sound like GC.....I'm honored.
oooo
Yes, you're honored; but GC, I believe, isn't.
Why don't you do something useful........why don't you volunteer some of your time to the Haitian relief....at least you can report to us from your EYE WITNESS reports, better yet help your beloved commie Cubans and Socialist Caca Venezuelans structure their great Socialist Country's and grow a beard a home for the flies and lice.
As for GC that's for GC to decide after all he still has the total freedom to do so.
oooo
I wouldn't waste my time telling you, Riosm, what to do and where to go.
As for your superior and useful cappies ... or capitalists ... I hope, worldwide, they soon emerge from bankruptcy.
Been there, and was told you were not home.
"soon emerge from bankruptcy" Your right......in the US election of 2012, bye bye OH'Blama.
As another example to the world BALLOTS over BULLETS.