SANTO DOMINGO. - The Dominican Government will build a university in Haiti for around 10,000 students, president Leonel Fernandez announced Wednesday, and though he didn’t specify the cost, affirmed it’s already on the drawing board.
He said it will have the standards of quality the 21st century requires, such as Internet and other features for students.
During his participation in the Preparatory Technical Conference for Haiti taking place in the Hotel Santo Domingo, the Head of State said Haiti’s youngsters deserve an education center because the quake devastated those which were operating. He said Haiti requires 130,000 tents to lodge the more than one million Haitians and prevent the spread of diseases in the rainy season.
Fernandez said Haiti’s government and civil society should implement a dialogue aimed at creating economic regions of development in that nation, for which he called on the international community to create infrastructure including free zones, as way to create a “bridge for jobs.”
He said the international community shouldn’t concentrate on helping Haiti just because of the quake and instead on its lagging development which has jeopardized it for years.
Haiti Prime Minister Jean Max Bellerive participates in the conference, hosted by Dominican Government officials and international delegations.
Written by: riosm, 17 Mar 2010 11:35 AM
From: United States
Good thing a projected cost is not known.....yet !
The total cost should be alarming........
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
that is true.......... but this is a worthy first step in rebuilding for the future
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Atabey that is correct .....it should be looked on as an opportunity
Written by: xwill7, 17 Mar 2010 12:39 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
why college??? many dont finish high school
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... (Look, beyond the words)
Lee-FLEA can't even keep Dominican students in school, the drop-out rate is climbing in DR and this cock-bag wants to help educate the haitians first.............great job DICKWEED.
Written by: juanb, 17 Mar 2010 12:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Wouldn't it be great if we could ignore all the problems that we have in our lives, and only had to prance about from photo opto photo op, making grandiose statements about things that wii never happen?
Written by: Pepe32, 17 Mar 2010 12:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Leonel has completely lost it !!
I mean no problem HELPING Haiti but the priorities should be here and with DOMINICAN students studying in horrible conditions in some parts he should get our house in order first!!
Written by: tejada, 17 Mar 2010 12:52 PM
From: United States
This is a good thing, I think. Both for DR and Haiti.
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 1:07 PM
From: United States, Texas
Smart move, because an university is a good fund raiser.
Most likely, LF bounced the idea of a Haitian university off of Irina Bokova, the UNESCO chief, who arrived early last week for the donors meeting this week. She has the biggest say in spending UN and UNESCO funds for education projects. Evidently, the LF's idea has her OK.
It seems unlikely that the NYC meeting on March 31 will undo the idea of university or undo the DR's hold on it. What the corrupt US imperialists will likely try to do in NYC is to chop the idea down from a 10,000 student school to a 500 to 1000 student school, if imperial rogues can't snatch project from DR hands.
Say, LF is thinking of 20 buildings, including dorms and classrooms and basic facilities, he's thinking somewere about $70M at the minimum. That's a good chunk of money.
Haiti Prime Minister Jean Max Bellerive, speaking for the Haitian regime and bourgeoisie, is likely on board because LF backs the Haitian regime's request for $400M.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
they should give the money to Raul the " Cara de Mamon " says the commie stooge propagandist Belial as he dreams of redistributing some one else's wealth as usual.....Where is Igor abc to harp in with the party line
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 1:25 PM
From: United States, Texas
"I mean no problem HELPING Haiti but the priorities should be here and with DOMINICAN students studying in horrible conditions in some parts he should get our house in order first!!," Pepe32 poses the question of priorities.
oooo
The DR priority for DR students is not modified by grabbing UN funds earmarked for Haiti. If these were DR funds earmarked for DR students, there would be an issue with priority. This is not just "HELPING," this is also doing business to make money.
The implication is the DR should divert the funds earmarked for Haiti to the DR. This would be following the example of the corrupt US imperialists. Surely, nobody wants to act like a dishonest US imperialist.
The DR bourgeoisie, the contractors, should take a reasonable profit ... say 5% ... for their work in Haiti on the school. Let's hope they don't steal much more than 5%.
Another implication is DR can't build UN-funded school in Haiti and DR-funded school in DR at the same time.
Untenable.
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 1:31 PM
From: United States, Texas
"they should give the money to Raul the " Cara de Mamon " says the commie stooge propagandist Belial as he dreams of redistributing some one else's wealth as usual.....Where is Igor abc to harp in with the party line," GC foams at the mouth.
oooo
GC wants everybody to know he's a cappie ... that is, pro-capitalist in his views.
OK, GC, we all know you're a cappie. So, go get a towel and wipe your mouth.
From: United States, New York City
Here's a novel idea: How about the Dominican government building a university FOR DOMINICANS? Last I checked the numbers for higher education in DR where ABYSMAL yet the Dominican state is spending its relatively meager resources ON ANOTHER STATE'S PEOPLE?!? OUTRAGEOUS.
Written by: riosm, 17 Mar 2010 1:58 PM
From: United States
Belial,
LOL
This may come as a shock to you but that money to build that University in Haiti.........where could it be coming from ? ...........let me think for you.........let me put on YOUR Socialist thinking cap..........from "THOSE FAT SWINE U.S IMPERIALIST PIGS"
That UN money.........where do you think it comes from ? ..........let me think for you again.........why I'll just put on YOUR Socialist thinking cap, again ! .........."FROM THOSE FAT SWINE IMPERIALIST PIGS".
Please post the dollar amounts of Haitian-Aide money donated to date from Cuba and Venezuela.
Probably to be staffed by those Socialist top notch state of the art advanced medical team from your beloved Cuba...........HAPPY NOW !
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
cibby he will be using resources donated for Haiti built by Dominican companies
Written by: dominica, 17 Mar 2010 2:01 PM
From: United States
Ethically, this makes sense. On the moral level it is something that is needed and no one can deny. however, it is not the smartest move politically or practically. It has been generally viewed that LF has been a president that invests little in social areas (especially education), which would raise some eyebrows on why spend ing in a foreign land and not domestically is important?
From: United States, New York City
"This may come as a shock to you but that money to build that University in Haiti.........where could it be coming from ? ...........let me think for you.........let me put on YOUR Socialist thinking cap..........from "THOSE FAT SWINE U.S IMPERIALIST PIGS" "
That's not what the article states. The article clearly stated that it was the DOMINICAN GOVERNMENT that was building said university. If the money and inititative both came from abroad then their would be nothing wrong with that and comendable. But this, this is an abomination. I hope that Dominicans don't stand for this.
From: United States, New York City
"cibby he will be using resources donated for Haiti built by Dominican companies"
Where does the article state as much? Or do you have some other source that states as much?
Written by: abc200, 17 Mar 2010 2:12 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Written by: xwill7, 17 Mar 2010 2:30 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
abc,
you can open a bike shop in haiti
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 2:37 PM
From: United States, Texas
The UN has so far $2.2B in the bank for Haiti's reconstruction.
The purpose of the meeting in Santo Domingo is to prepare an action plan on how to spend and use the $2.2B of UN money. Another meeting in NYC meeting on March 31 will consider the recommendations that come out of this Santo Domingo meeting.
The approved projects in the action plan will be funded by the $2.2B. That is what the $2.2B is for.
Since the DT reports LF saying "Dominican Government" will do this or that, this means LF is pretty sure he has a cut of the $2.2B UN money in order to do this or that.
If however the UN money doesn't come thur, he'll drop the project.
From: United States, New York City
Belial, the headline and the article are unambiguous. What sources have you that show, as you are alluding to, that the bill for THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT will be footed by the UN?
From: Dominican Republic
As usual, Rauls favorite nephew Belial has been flapping his receeding gumline with unquotable quotes as he waits for the unemployment check to hit his mail box in time to take the grand kids to Disney World this weekend .
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 3:11 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Belial, the headline and the article are unambiguous. What sources have you that show, as you are alludingAnd, to, that the bill for THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT will be footed by the UN?" cibaeño75 very properly asks.
oooo
The purpose of the Santo Domingo meeting, regardless of how DT phrases its story, is to cut up the $2.2B in UN money for Haitian reconstruction.
LF clearly asks for his cut. And, it's a big cut he asks for.
LF is saying let's use some of the $2.2B to build a school and let's put the DR in charge of the project. Private constractors of DR origin will actually do the building, not the "Dominican Government" but the DR Government will pick which contractors get the job, not the US or Haiti regimes. Since the DR Government didn't donate the $2.2B presently in the UN fund, the DR Government will not finance the project.
DR will run the show.
What LF proposes is counter to a 3/10 agreement between Preval and Obama which lets the US run everything.
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Regardless of what we say here, this is a good thing for them.
Let's educate this savages, cause they've got nothing to offer so far.
Written by: abc200, 17 Mar 2010 3:14 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Yes , they need better pigs:
Haitian pigs meet globalization
From "Eyes of the Heart: Seeking a Path for the Poor in the Age of Globalization," by Jean-Bertrand Aristide <
http://www.eyesoftheheart.org> 3 May 2000
The history of the eradication of the Haitian Creole pig population in the 1980's is a classic parable of globalization. Haiti's small, black, Creole pigs were at the heart of the peasant economy. An extremely hearty breed, well adapted to Haiti's climate and conditions, they ate readily available waste products, and could survive for three days without food. Eighty to 85% of rural households raised pigs; they played a key role in maintaining the fertility of the soil and constituted the primary savings bank of the peasant population. Traditionally a pig was sold to pay for emergencies and special occasions (funerals, marriages, baptisms, illnesses and, critically, to pay school fees and buy books for the children when school opened each year in October.)
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 3:15 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Let's educate this savages, cause they've got nothing to offer so far," DONT_BE_SILENT urges.
0000
Look who's calling somebody a savage.
Written by: abc200, 17 Mar 2010 3:16 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
In 1982 international agencies assured Haiti's peasants their pigs were sick and had to be killed (so that the illness would not spread to countries to the North). Promises were made that better pigs would replace the sick pigs. With an efficiency not since seen among development projects, all of the Creole pigs were killed over a period of thirteen months.
Two years later the new, better pigs came from Iowa. They were so much better that they required clean drinking water (unavailable to 80% of the Haitian population), imported feed (costing $90 a year when the per capita income was about $130), and special roofed pigpens. haitian peasants quickly dubbed them "prince a quatre pieds," (four-footed princes). adding insult to injury, the meat did not taste as good. Needless to say, the repopulation program was a complete failure. one observer of the process estimated that in monetary terms Haitian peasants lost $600 million dollars. There was a 30% drop in enrollment in rural schools,
Written by: abc200, 17 Mar 2010 3:17 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
there was a dramatic decline in the protein consumption in rural Haiti, a devastating decapitalization of the peasant economy and an incalculable negative impact on Haiti's soil and agricultural productivity. The Haitian peasantry has not recovered to this day.
Most of rural Haiti is still isolated from global markets, so for many peasants the extermination of the Creole pigs was their first experience of globalization. The experience looms large in the collective memory. Today, when the peasants are told that "economic reform" and privatization will benefit them they are understandably wary. The state-owned enterprises are sick, we are told, and they must be privatized. the peasants shake their heads and remember the Creole pigs.
- --From "Eyes of the Heart: Seeking a Path for the Poor in the Age of Globalization," by Jean-Bertrand Aristide,
http://www.eyesoftheheart.org .
S.
From: Dominican Republic
I love this bull !
The pauper paper champion President hasn't a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of but he is determined to provide the financing for a Dominican version of Oxford U. for the Haitians with a canvas dormitory dotted with porta potties ??? Im glad the highway department finally started dumping layers of asphalt on the streets of Sosua this week...
Written by: danny00, 17 Mar 2010 3:29 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
u say educate the savages..... maybe u should look in the mirror.
from one dominican imperialist pig. hey! dont u like to eat pig?..
and yes priority for dominican students.
but 1st lets teach them that selling drugs is not the way to go.
and for the young ladies..... not to be ladies of the night.,
u really think new or more schools will change their out look?
when their heros are drug dealers.
and the the young girls hear every day now one lady of the night ripped off one gringo for his money, u really think this is going to change?
Written by: danny00, 17 Mar 2010 3:31 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
and when thier parents encourage them in this monkey business of selling their bodies and selling drugs.
Written by: danny00, 17 Mar 2010 3:33 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
SEE THE DOLLAR IS GOING UP
see the dollar is getting higher. AGAINST THE DR PESOS
OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS brazil's currencies has gained 24% in relation to the DOLLAR.
colombia 25%
uruguay 19%
mexico 17%
chile. 12%
peru 10%
a strong currency is usually a sign of a healthy economy.
for the dr. to achieve long-term growth with strong currencies, the dr will have to export increasingly sophistricated goods, and will rquire more EDUCATION.
not going to happen in the dr. not in this life time with the bad apples in the government
From: Dominican Republic
They must first learn how to read the letters above the circles on the answer sheets so they can pass thier S.A.Ts, but , I suppose it does not matter for men as long as the recruiters are wearing Yankees or Dodgers caps and the gals will be fine also as long as they learn how to slide down a pole in a pair of crotchless panties before thier 16th birthday..
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 3:38 PM
From: United States, Texas
As of March 3, here is what the UN has collected, spent, holds and from whom the money came from, relative to Haitian relief and recovery.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/haiti_pro....uake_financing_Mar_3_original.pdfLF knows all about this money. He wants a cut. We talkin' billions, here!
The corrupt US imperialists and their allies, who don't want the DR to get a cut, say "No, LF. All this money will go into a single trust fund controlled by Bill Clinton and he will cut up the money as he sees fit."
Pro-imperialist allies argue all of this money collected for Haiti really belongs to the DR and should be spent only in the DR. And, LF is either a traitor or fool if he spends money collected for Haiti in Haiti.
Pro-imperialist allies don't understand that if LF said "I'm gonna use the UN money raised for Haiti to build a university in the DR," LF will never get the money. But that what pro-imperialist allies want LF to say.
Written by: xwill7, 17 Mar 2010 3:38 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
dhb,
the pot holes will return as soon as the election is over
From: Dominican Republic
X,
They are filling those pot holes with Stove top stuffing instead of pigs and potatoes ...
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
Written by: xwill7, 17 Mar 2010 4:11 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
They better start to ship pepper spray so those women can defend themselves
From: United States, New York City
"Que viva Trujillo mil veces, we see what this people is capable of."
So...you're condeming rape by exalting a known rapist? Dontbesilent, please be silent.
Written by: xwill7, 17 Mar 2010 4:12 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
dhb,
you will have a smoother drive to the cabana in sosua lol
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 4:35 PM
From: United States, Texas
Here is the list by country;
http://ocha.unog.ch/fts/reports/daily/ocha_R24_E15797___1003170945.pdf"You will notice that Cuba and Venezuela do not make the listing by name so they must be encompassed in the "others" category that comprises a full 2.3% of the grand total," Texasshoe says.
.....
Venezuela shipped 225,000 barrels of oil to Haiti immediately the quake and since satified all of Haiti oil needs free of charge. To get a dollar amount, all the UN has to do is to multiply the number of barrels times the world market price for a barrel to determined this part of Venezuelan assistance to Haiti. The world market price set at NYMEX (under a new owner) is about $75 per barrel.
Cuba has about 1600 Cuban-educated doctors in Haiti. If the bourgeois media denies it, it's lying.
To get a dollar amount , the UN has to multiply the 1600 times market value of top-notch medical services. In development capitalist countries, the market value about $130,000 per doctor.
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 4:40 PM
From: United States, Texas
The US aid went to support 20,000 US troops and the aircraft carrier and the other naval vessels deployed off the Haiti coast. The Haitian people got very little of it. The Haitian Government got less than 1% of it. The amount is unverified.
To operate the aircraft carrier alone cost $2M per day of "Haitian aid" from the US regime.
Written by: abc200, 17 Mar 2010 4:42 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Russian Rouble and Canadian dollar getting stronger too.
S.
Written by: Belial, 17 Mar 2010 4:58 PM
From: United States, Texas
"Not true. The deployment was under the Southern Command relief effort and has nothing to due with monies pledged by the government," Texasshoe says.
oooo
The bourgeois media reported otherwise.
But pro-imperialist allies sob because they fear the UN Haitian relief and recovery fund is out of money and therefore LF has to use DR funds to build the school in Haiti.
Both my link
http://www.haitispecialenvoy.org/and
your link
http://ocha.unog.ch/fts/reports/daily/ocha_R24_E15797___1003170945.pdfshow that UN has tons of money for Haiti.
Why would LF use DR money when the UN Haitian fund is loaded?
I wonder what these imperialist allies are up to?
Written by: shelinoF, 17 Mar 2010 5:44 PM
From: Turks and Caicos Islands
From a moral point of view I agree teh international community should help Haiti but another sense, President Fernandez shoul build that school or schools in the Dominican Republic where it is needed. He builds infaurstructures in the Dominican Republic such as bridges, Highways, Tunels, subway metro but forgets about education and health care in the Dominican Republic. Why build a school in Haiti from dominican tax payers' money and 10 years from now the Haitians will destroy and run down that school like they run down all infurstructure in Haiti. Is it that America is pressuring the Dominican Republic to help Haiti or is that the Dominican Republic wants Haiti to get back on their feet as soon as possible to prevent flock of illegal haitian immgrants from crossing the border and entering the Dominican Republic???
Written by: telemeco, 17 Mar 2010 5:57 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Monte Plata
maybe he is building the uni to be run by the UASD to keep the haitian overthere intead of coming across the border.
Perhalf is a blueprint to teach the haitian to speak Spanish,,ohhh i mean Dominican, cause we dont realy speak proper spanish
Maybe it is clinton money, giving to DR to make it seen like is DR who doing the rebuilding, another root to make us unnified the island
or just maybe they need to educate the future leader of haiti, cause they have known, and we are going to be dealing with them for a long time to come, it pay that these leader speak some spanish and know how to budget the books
Written by: dominica, 17 Mar 2010 6:04 PM
From: United States
it sure is fun learning that the topic of Haiti is one of the most important ones to Dominicans. You can see by looking at every article that Dominicantoday has. Any article with the words Haiti or Haitian in it has a consistent influx of comments than almost any other article. Haiti seems to be the equivalent of what Abortion is in America. A hot button topic that will get even the most apathetic of us to get emotional. Pretty interesting.
By the way Danny00,
a rising currency now adays does not really denote a healthy economy. At the present day it seems to be followed by strong inflation as could be the case with many countries whose currency is gaining ground. Although it looks like it's worth more a dollar or peso equivalent could just be worth 80 cents (example).
Written by: shelinoF, 17 Mar 2010 6:13 PM
From: Turks and Caicos Islands
Telemeco i dont think ist none of which you stated, i think the U.S government is pressuring the Dominican Republic to help Haiti. The United Nations, U.S and otehr wealthy countries have dump millions n millions of Dollars t oHaiti to decree poverty and make things better and things havent got any better of Haitians, just get more worse every year so buildin ga school there wont make things any better.
Written by: shelinoF, 17 Mar 2010 6:16 PM
From: Turks and Caicos Islands
Dominican Repbulic has thier own problems so forget haiti
From: United States, Brooklyn
where is Josean with his criticism of the DR and Leonel... WHERE?? that coward...
JOSEAN... JOSEAN... JOSEAN....
From: United States, Brooklyn
Only if this is build with donated money will agree with it... otherwise, our school and student will be missing out on this socio economic investment!
Written by: buenoha, 17 Mar 2010 6:46 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Build a university in La Romana! And a theater. And a museum. Please, we need culture in La Romana. It should develop into a real city.
From: United States
cibaeño75
i don't agree with some of the things you say but thank you for telling be silent to well be silent. He fails to realize the world is reading his comments. Name calling doesn't make you superior it makes you look like an ignoramus.
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
LF should run Haiti after his out office, perhaps he can get something out it, and stay there forever. One day a true leader wll rise up, and do for DR what bosch wanted to do.
How can you try to fix your neighbor's house, when you can't even run yours?
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
Free your mind and your ass will follow. The DR is the destination of choice for the Haitian lower middle class for higher learning simply because the UEH is too small, too long of a waiting list to get in. Those with better means goes on to study in North America,Europe,and for med school Mexico,Chile even Argentina, and usually never to return.Currently the Haitian student body in DR is around 500k. Those are tuition paying students, previously before the earthquake one of those well knowing universities in DR came to Haiti to sign an agreement to build a campus in the Petit Groave region of Haiti ,the project was green lighted the Haitian government had donated the land. I'm not sure if this is part of the same project,but this is simply brilliant,the Dominican university system getting into the business of serving the needs of their Haitian student body. A superior education at home minus the brain drain to follow.
From: United States, jackson heights ny
let go and build it as soon as posible. haiti need our help to be back to normal
From: United States
united states of the caribbean.
From: United States, Brooklyn
josean... be grateful to your master!
From: United States, Brooklyn
haitians stop crying and build your own country up!
From: United States, Brooklyn
josean... be greatful to your master!
Written by: Vivacuba, 18 Mar 2010 5:33 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Cibaeno75, Relax it's o.k. These are funds from the USAID program or somewhere from the killer nation. USG put LF up to this to foster good relations between the two nations (soon to be 1) as a colony administered by the killer war mongers.
From: United States
Carlofrancos
Everyone knows that DR and the Dr people have helped haiti. Who will benefit the most from a vibrant economy in haiti other than the haitian people? It's the insults that make people mad from intellectuals like you pepe32. Know you found a kid to mold in Ateo to continue to preach that false history you've been taught.
People always migrate to other countries. Why is it most of the moronic, idiotic comments come from a small minority living overseas?
From: Dominican Republic
Wow. We are an empire already!
From: United States, Brooklyn
JOSEAN
What DR needs is to stop giving a crap about the international community criticism regarding YOUR BRO'S... And Build wall and not let one haitian in...
Show your gratitude you ungrateful scum!
From: United States, Brooklyn
Do anyone know any grateful haitians out there? Who recognize that DR does more Haiti than HAITIANS themselves????
Please point 'em out!
Written by: cantave, 18 Mar 2010 12:59 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
xwill!!!
"why college??? many dont finish high school"
Looks who's talking.
Semper Fidelis.....
Written by: xwill7, 18 Mar 2010 1:15 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Why would they go to college when there are no jobs? Start the farm work and you will see growth
From: United States
why do people to school= well, if you dont undestant was going on with haiti and the dr, try going back to school...united states of caribbean.
Written by: Perez, 18 Mar 2010 4:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic
this is a joke right? He doesn't bother to build a decent school for his people but want s to build a University i Haiti? Yo! liar-nel! In case u haven't heard about the saying, Take the speck out of your eye before taking off the speck of someone's eye! What a hypocrite! He just want to look good in front of the international press! this man is a joke!
Written by: Belial, 18 Mar 2010 6:38 PM
From: United States, Texas
"This is a joke right? He doesn't bother to build a decent school for his people but want s to build a University i Haiti? Yo! liar-nel! In case u haven't heard about the saying, Take the speck out of your eye before taking off the speck of someone's eye! What a hypocrite! He just want to look good in front of the international press! this man is a joke!" Perez, complains.
oooo
Perez seems to believe if DR exports goods and services for a profit, the DR neglects its own citizens.
Well, the DR exports more goods and services to USA than it exports to Haiti.
But Perez doesn't complain about the DR's exports to the USA.
The meeting in Santo Domingo this week was about spending $2.2B in Haiti. The only way to get some of $2.2B is to steal from Haiti or export goods and services to Haiti.
If the DR went to the UN and confessed that it wasn't going to export anything to Haiti, but the DR still wanted a cut of the $2.2B, the UN would give DR nothing or very little.
Written by: cantave, 18 Mar 2010 7:11 PM
From: United States, !<82ndAbd>!Lt.Tigah>Fort Bragg>North Carolina, U.S>Platoon Leader>Tactical Hardcore.
jarabacoa!!!
You refer to U.S.H
United States Of Hispanola.
Why do you wish to see that???
Semper Fortis..............
From: United States
It is a novel concept and given its target are the thousands of Haitian students that have lost their transcipts from PAP universities, this a bold and novel step. Yet what about those students who are out of school now and have been since 1/12. This concept of a unversity for Haitians will take months or a couple of years to complete. It doesn't answer the pressing need soon enough. Heard of a complementary concept that would utilize existing educational capacity to get college students back in post secondary school in matter of weeks, quicker and cheaper than a new bricks and mortar institution. It is called Haitan Student Education Continuation Initiative (HaSECI). Has any one heard of this?
From: United States, Naples, Florida
Great! Now our President, Leonel, could help Haitians understand our Constitution and make that Haitian students put pression on their government to make the necessary correction on the name of the island in their Constitution to match ours: Island of Santo Domingo (Ile de Saint Domingue). Then both republics may claim the "Dominican" denomination, making it, in turn, mandatory for our country to adopt a name: Quisqueya
No more confusions, two nations sharing one island. One island divided by two independent countries. The Dominican Republic of Haiti and the Dominican Republic of Quisqueya in the Island of Santo Domingo. Or, just Haiti and Quisqueya in the Island of Santo Domingo; or, the Republic of Haiti and the Republic of Quisqueya in the Island of Santo Domingo. Read more in
http://www.quisqueya.name and catch up with history.
From: United States, Naples, Florida
Practice the "good neighbor" policy and show them that we are both on "Dominican" soil: the Island of Santo Domingo (Ile de Saint Domingue): Haiti and Quisqueya
National Identity: Haitians
National Identity: Quisqueyans
Both nationalities share a common denominator coming from the name of the island: Dominicans.
From: United States, Naples, Florida
We are not inventing the denomination of "Dominicans". It was introduced by the Spanish Crown in 1621 when it issued the "Cedula Real" to classify the identity of Spaniards born in the Island of Santo Domingo. Then, when Haiti became independent and wanted to make everyone in the island Haitian by naming it Island of Haiti, Duarte and the Trinitarians forced them out and stablished a republic that was denominated Dominica Republic, thus restoring the name of the island back to that of Island of Santo Domingo. Since then, there is a confusion in the world that brought back the rejected name of "Hispaniola" for the island.
From: United States, Naples, Florida
Just teach Haitians well! read the true history in
http://www.quisqueya.name and help make the corrections needed to live in peace and be good neighbors.
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The total cost should be alarming........
I mean no problem HELPING Haiti but the priorities should be here and with DOMINICAN students studying in horrible conditions in some parts he should get our house in order first!!
Most likely, LF bounced the idea of a Haitian university off of Irina Bokova, the UNESCO chief, who arrived early last week for the donors meeting this week. She has the biggest say in spending UN and UNESCO funds for education projects. Evidently, the LF's idea has her OK.
It seems unlikely that the NYC meeting on March 31 will undo the idea of university or undo the DR's hold on it. What the corrupt US imperialists will likely try to do in NYC is to chop the idea down from a 10,000 student school to a 500 to 1000 student school, if imperial rogues can't snatch project from DR hands.
Say, LF is thinking of 20 buildings, including dorms and classrooms and basic facilities, he's thinking somewere about $70M at the minimum. That's a good chunk of money.
Haiti Prime Minister Jean Max Bellerive, speaking for the Haitian regime and bourgeoisie, is likely on board because LF backs the Haitian regime's request for $400M.
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The DR priority for DR students is not modified by grabbing UN funds earmarked for Haiti. If these were DR funds earmarked for DR students, there would be an issue with priority. This is not just "HELPING," this is also doing business to make money.
The implication is the DR should divert the funds earmarked for Haiti to the DR. This would be following the example of the corrupt US imperialists. Surely, nobody wants to act like a dishonest US imperialist.
The DR bourgeoisie, the contractors, should take a reasonable profit ... say 5% ... for their work in Haiti on the school. Let's hope they don't steal much more than 5%.
Another implication is DR can't build UN-funded school in Haiti and DR-funded school in DR at the same time.
Untenable.
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GC wants everybody to know he's a cappie ... that is, pro-capitalist in his views.
OK, GC, we all know you're a cappie. So, go get a towel and wipe your mouth.
LOL
This may come as a shock to you but that money to build that University in Haiti.........where could it be coming from ? ...........let me think for you.........let me put on YOUR Socialist thinking cap..........from "THOSE FAT SWINE U.S IMPERIALIST PIGS"
That UN money.........where do you think it comes from ? ..........let me think for you again.........why I'll just put on YOUR Socialist thinking cap, again ! .........."FROM THOSE FAT SWINE IMPERIALIST PIGS".
Please post the dollar amounts of Haitian-Aide money donated to date from Cuba and Venezuela.
Probably to be staffed by those Socialist top notch state of the art advanced medical team from your beloved Cuba...........HAPPY NOW !
That's not what the article states. The article clearly stated that it was the DOMINICAN GOVERNMENT that was building said university. If the money and inititative both came from abroad then their would be nothing wrong with that and comendable. But this, this is an abomination. I hope that Dominicans don't stand for this.
Where does the article state as much? Or do you have some other source that states as much?
http://www.sac.ac.uk/consulting/services/s-z/international/
I am waiting for my first blackcurrant gin!
http://www.sac.ac.uk/news/currentnews/1003fruit/
S.
you can open a bike shop in haiti
The purpose of the meeting in Santo Domingo is to prepare an action plan on how to spend and use the $2.2B of UN money. Another meeting in NYC meeting on March 31 will consider the recommendations that come out of this Santo Domingo meeting.
The approved projects in the action plan will be funded by the $2.2B. That is what the $2.2B is for.
Since the DT reports LF saying "Dominican Government" will do this or that, this means LF is pretty sure he has a cut of the $2.2B UN money in order to do this or that.
If however the UN money doesn't come thur, he'll drop the project.
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The purpose of the Santo Domingo meeting, regardless of how DT phrases its story, is to cut up the $2.2B in UN money for Haitian reconstruction.
LF clearly asks for his cut. And, it's a big cut he asks for.
LF is saying let's use some of the $2.2B to build a school and let's put the DR in charge of the project. Private constractors of DR origin will actually do the building, not the "Dominican Government" but the DR Government will pick which contractors get the job, not the US or Haiti regimes. Since the DR Government didn't donate the $2.2B presently in the UN fund, the DR Government will not finance the project.
DR will run the show.
What LF proposes is counter to a 3/10 agreement between Preval and Obama which lets the US run everything.
Let's educate this savages, cause they've got nothing to offer so far.
Haitian pigs meet globalization
From "Eyes of the Heart: Seeking a Path for the Poor in the Age of Globalization," by Jean-Bertrand Aristide <http://www.eyesoftheheart.org> 3 May 2000
The history of the eradication of the Haitian Creole pig population in the 1980's is a classic parable of globalization. Haiti's small, black, Creole pigs were at the heart of the peasant economy. An extremely hearty breed, well adapted to Haiti's climate and conditions, they ate readily available waste products, and could survive for three days without food. Eighty to 85% of rural households raised pigs; they played a key role in maintaining the fertility of the soil and constituted the primary savings bank of the peasant population. Traditionally a pig was sold to pay for emergencies and special occasions (funerals, marriages, baptisms, illnesses and, critically, to pay school fees and buy books for the children when school opened each year in October.)
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Look who's calling somebody a savage.
Two years later the new, better pigs came from Iowa. They were so much better that they required clean drinking water (unavailable to 80% of the Haitian population), imported feed (costing $90 a year when the per capita income was about $130), and special roofed pigpens. haitian peasants quickly dubbed them "prince a quatre pieds," (four-footed princes). adding insult to injury, the meat did not taste as good. Needless to say, the repopulation program was a complete failure. one observer of the process estimated that in monetary terms Haitian peasants lost $600 million dollars. There was a 30% drop in enrollment in rural schools,
Most of rural Haiti is still isolated from global markets, so for many peasants the extermination of the Creole pigs was their first experience of globalization. The experience looms large in the collective memory. Today, when the peasants are told that "economic reform" and privatization will benefit them they are understandably wary. The state-owned enterprises are sick, we are told, and they must be privatized. the peasants shake their heads and remember the Creole pigs.
- --From "Eyes of the Heart: Seeking a Path for the Poor in the Age of Globalization," by Jean-Bertrand Aristide, http://www.eyesoftheheart.org .
S.
The pauper paper champion President hasn't a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of but he is determined to provide the financing for a Dominican version of Oxford U. for the Haitians with a canvas dormitory dotted with porta potties ??? Im glad the highway department finally started dumping layers of asphalt on the streets of Sosua this week...
from one dominican imperialist pig. hey! dont u like to eat pig?..
and yes priority for dominican students.
but 1st lets teach them that selling drugs is not the way to go.
and for the young ladies..... not to be ladies of the night.,
u really think new or more schools will change their out look?
when their heros are drug dealers.
and the the young girls hear every day now one lady of the night ripped off one gringo for his money, u really think this is going to change?
see the dollar is getting higher. AGAINST THE DR PESOS
OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS brazil's currencies has gained 24% in relation to the DOLLAR.
colombia 25%
uruguay 19%
mexico 17%
chile. 12%
peru 10%
a strong currency is usually a sign of a healthy economy.
for the dr. to achieve long-term growth with strong currencies, the dr will have to export increasingly sophistricated goods, and will rquire more EDUCATION.
not going to happen in the dr. not in this life time with the bad apples in the government
http://s3.amazonaws.com/haiti_pro....uake_financing_Mar_3_original.pdf
LF knows all about this money. He wants a cut. We talkin' billions, here!
The corrupt US imperialists and their allies, who don't want the DR to get a cut, say "No, LF. All this money will go into a single trust fund controlled by Bill Clinton and he will cut up the money as he sees fit."
Pro-imperialist allies argue all of this money collected for Haiti really belongs to the DR and should be spent only in the DR. And, LF is either a traitor or fool if he spends money collected for Haiti in Haiti.
Pro-imperialist allies don't understand that if LF said "I'm gonna use the UN money raised for Haiti to build a university in the DR," LF will never get the money. But that what pro-imperialist allies want LF to say.
the pot holes will return as soon as the election is over
They are filling those pot holes with Stove top stuffing instead of pigs and potatoes ...
http://www.listindiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=135191
Are they a bunch of savages or what?
I don't want this for my beloved D.R.
Raping kids as young as 2 and 7 years old.
Que viva Trujillo mil veces, we see what this people is capable of.
So...you're condeming rape by exalting a known rapist? Dontbesilent, please be silent.
you will have a smoother drive to the cabana in sosua lol
http://ocha.unog.ch/fts/reports/daily/ocha_R24_E15797___1003170945.pdf
"You will notice that Cuba and Venezuela do not make the listing by name so they must be encompassed in the "others" category that comprises a full 2.3% of the grand total," Texasshoe says.
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Venezuela shipped 225,000 barrels of oil to Haiti immediately the quake and since satified all of Haiti oil needs free of charge. To get a dollar amount, all the UN has to do is to multiply the number of barrels times the world market price for a barrel to determined this part of Venezuelan assistance to Haiti. The world market price set at NYMEX (under a new owner) is about $75 per barrel.
Cuba has about 1600 Cuban-educated doctors in Haiti. If the bourgeois media denies it, it's lying.
To get a dollar amount , the UN has to multiply the 1600 times market value of top-notch medical services. In development capitalist countries, the market value about $130,000 per doctor.
To operate the aircraft carrier alone cost $2M per day of "Haitian aid" from the US regime.
S.
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The bourgeois media reported otherwise.
But pro-imperialist allies sob because they fear the UN Haitian relief and recovery fund is out of money and therefore LF has to use DR funds to build the school in Haiti.
Both my link
http://www.haitispecialenvoy.org/
and
your link
http://ocha.unog.ch/fts/reports/daily/ocha_R24_E15797___1003170945.pdf
show that UN has tons of money for Haiti.
Why would LF use DR money when the UN Haitian fund is loaded?
I wonder what these imperialist allies are up to?
Perhalf is a blueprint to teach the haitian to speak Spanish,,ohhh i mean Dominican, cause we dont realy speak proper spanish
Maybe it is clinton money, giving to DR to make it seen like is DR who doing the rebuilding, another root to make us unnified the island
or just maybe they need to educate the future leader of haiti, cause they have known, and we are going to be dealing with them for a long time to come, it pay that these leader speak some spanish and know how to budget the books
By the way Danny00,
a rising currency now adays does not really denote a healthy economy. At the present day it seems to be followed by strong inflation as could be the case with many countries whose currency is gaining ground. Although it looks like it's worth more a dollar or peso equivalent could just be worth 80 cents (example).
where is Josean with his criticism of the DR and Leonel... WHERE?? that coward...
JOSEAN... JOSEAN... JOSEAN....
Only if this is build with donated money will agree with it... otherwise, our school and student will be missing out on this socio economic investment!
i don't agree with some of the things you say but thank you for telling be silent to well be silent. He fails to realize the world is reading his comments. Name calling doesn't make you superior it makes you look like an ignoramus.
How can you try to fix your neighbor's house, when you can't even run yours?
haitians stop crying and build your own country up!
josean... be greatful to your master!
Everyone knows that DR and the Dr people have helped haiti. Who will benefit the most from a vibrant economy in haiti other than the haitian people? It's the insults that make people mad from intellectuals like you pepe32. Know you found a kid to mold in Ateo to continue to preach that false history you've been taught.
People always migrate to other countries. Why is it most of the moronic, idiotic comments come from a small minority living overseas?
JOSEAN
What DR needs is to stop giving a crap about the international community criticism regarding YOUR BRO'S... And Build wall and not let one haitian in...
Show your gratitude you ungrateful scum!
Do anyone know any grateful haitians out there? Who recognize that DR does more Haiti than HAITIANS themselves????
Please point 'em out!
"why college??? many dont finish high school"
Looks who's talking.
Semper Fidelis.....
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Perez seems to believe if DR exports goods and services for a profit, the DR neglects its own citizens.
Well, the DR exports more goods and services to USA than it exports to Haiti.
But Perez doesn't complain about the DR's exports to the USA.
The meeting in Santo Domingo this week was about spending $2.2B in Haiti. The only way to get some of $2.2B is to steal from Haiti or export goods and services to Haiti.
If the DR went to the UN and confessed that it wasn't going to export anything to Haiti, but the DR still wanted a cut of the $2.2B, the UN would give DR nothing or very little.
You refer to U.S.H
United States Of Hispanola.
Why do you wish to see that???
Semper Fortis..............
No more confusions, two nations sharing one island. One island divided by two independent countries. The Dominican Republic of Haiti and the Dominican Republic of Quisqueya in the Island of Santo Domingo. Or, just Haiti and Quisqueya in the Island of Santo Domingo; or, the Republic of Haiti and the Republic of Quisqueya in the Island of Santo Domingo. Read more in http://www.quisqueya.name and catch up with history.
National Identity: Haitians
National Identity: Quisqueyans
Both nationalities share a common denominator coming from the name of the island: Dominicans.