SANTO DOMINGO.- Haiti’s former General Consul in the country yesterday affirmed that Dominican Republic doesn’t figure among the donor nations because it didn’t pledge money in cash for his country’s reconstruction.
Edwin Paraison said the Web site only registers those nations that pledged direct funds within the 18 months following the March 31 summit held in New York. “The Pledge Map is a public way to lead those who pledged to keep their promise. For example the RD appears with zero because it didn’t commit to contribute money to this fund during the 18 months following the summit for obvious reasons that we Haitians understand.”
In a statement quoted by newspaper El Caribe, the former diplomat said the contribution of building an university isn’t considered “hard cash” or a direct contribution in bilateral cooperation for Haiti’s reconstruction fund. “That’s the reason it doesn’t appear in the Pledge Map.”
Paraison’s statement comes in response to a report yesterday on the official Government Website for Haiti’s reconstruction, where Dominican Republic appears with a zero on the list of donor nations.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
There is no dollar value for the heartfelt aid provided by the DR during the early days of this disaster ......It was inspiring
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
In that case the website needs to put in an explanation and an expression of gratitude to the DR ..it is a case of very poor public relations.
Written by: bernies, 17 Aug 2010 9:47 AM
From: United States, key west fl
an ungrateful respond from the Haitians people after all we did for their country during the time of grief, yeah all those nations promised to donate all that money but nothing has been done yet. and instead we as a country donated our blood for Haitians that needed along with food and shelters. And that was not enough. That is why many Dominicans criticized Leonel for being so generous with the Haitians community. Well this should teach us a lesson.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
Beernie dont be a hater !
Written by: juanb, 17 Aug 2010 10:46 AM
From: Dominican Republic
We don't have hard cash.
The best we could do is promise to give some money from the next big loan we get.
From: United States
And this is a surprise ?
LF is an empty suited, pathologically corrupt liar.
Call him on the carpet and watch him dance.
Does NOTHING embrarass a Dominican? NO, because they are inbred entitled, there are NO consequences to their actions.
From: United States, Chicago, IL
This is simply AWFUL reporting on the part of El Caribe.Paraison is responding to this article:
http://www.elcaribe.com.do/site/i....tid=104:nacionales&Itemid=115The Pledge Map has financial pledges made to Haiti at the March 30, 2010 UN Donors Conference in NYC & In Kind CONTRIBUTIONS. Most of these PLEDGES have not even been fulfilled. While DR didn't pledge funds at that event they have, and continue to provide a ton of actual, In Kind CONTRIBUTIONS, valued at $110 million! This is only rivaled by Cuba's long term medical operations, many of which were already in place. Haitians know, DR and Cuba actually contribute while the rest "pledge".
Look next to the "funds" section to see in kind contributions listed, marked by blue flag on Map.
Pledge Map
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=190&pid=126Pledge List
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&pThese are Haiti's best f
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
@ Bernies
We are great full and humble by your help I'm sure there will be an Ave name after LF when the new P-Au-P is rebuild. Please note the purpose of this whole endeavor of posting this aid online was done to serve two purpose, one to keep those who attended the donors conference feet to the fire, second to show transparency on the part of the Haitian government. In accounting you have two column account receivable and account payable those numbers got to be real. Sorry for feeling you did not get your props, but what you are advocating is what those boys in Houston (Enron) used to do.
Side note- Many countries like Venezuela,Cuba raised eyebrows at the Donors conference,but the reality is their figures had nothing to do with cash donated but inflated by what they feel their services is worth to Haitian society( that's cannot be put on the books as funds received)
Written by: lovingit, 17 Aug 2010 1:59 PM
From: United States, Delaware
That publication and the web site a slap on the face to the DR and even Cuba by the Haitian government. Like Ricardolito said, it is a very poor public relations stunt and should included some sort explanation, or perhaps include another map/country list that shows countries that have helped in a non-direct-monetary way.
For all of you giving minuses for people expressing their discontent with the publication, you have to look at it this way: If you go to the web site, it simply says "Who is helping Haiti?" DR and Cuba show 0.00, which gives the impression, to anyone that visits the site that the DR has not helped at all.
cont...
Written by: lovingit, 17 Aug 2010 1:59 PM
From: United States, Delaware
...cont
Still, I do not regret the help provided to the Haitians because they need all of the solidarity they could need and I don't blame the Haitian people, but their goverment. It is a disgraceful publication and the Haitian GOVERMENT should have thought better before publishing it as is because it discredits the aid we provided. Unless you are a person who has followed this closely, you'll think the DR has not helped.
Many will be confused unless the web site and the posting is rectified.
From different point of views:
Dominicans: We have not done what!!!?
Haitians in Haiti: Ahhh, so that are they doing here? puttin up a show?
Haitians in other parts of the World: “Those a$$hole Dominicans never help us?”
The World: “Wow, what a bunch of a$$holes those Dominicans are”
There is saying that says: "Ellos mismos se clavaron el cuchillo" ("They stabbed themsleves with the knife")
And the Haitian goverment is just doing that unless rectified.
Written by: Atabey, 17 Aug 2010 2:09 PM
From: United States, NYC
A picture of the Dominican mother who gave her breast milk to a Haitian baby is all one needs to remember. That image symbolizes like nothing else the DR's contribution to the cause.
Written by: lovingit, 17 Aug 2010 2:16 PM
From: United States, Delaware
From: United States
lovingit,
Every haitian I know knows DR was the biggest contributor to haiti after the earthquake. your draws too tight.
Dominicans: We have not done what!!!?
Haitians in Haiti: Ahhh, so that are they doing here? puttin up a show?
Haitians in other parts of the World: “Those a$$hole Dominicans never help us?”
The World: “Wow, what a bunch of a$$holes those Dominicans are”
Youre delusional for those comments. Everyone knows the help recieved from Cuba and Dr is immeasurable and haiti will be forever grateful
From: United States, Brooklyn
Ungrateful Haitians.
Not Surprised.
What should we do now in responds?
From: United States
i just spent 10 beautful days in the dominican republic.
i could not get enough on the chicharron adn the presidentes .
some of you are just too tired, need to take a break !
From: United States, words of wisdom from the nutcracker
they need to fix there own mess , DR can only do so much we got our problems to deal
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
lovingIt
In regard to Cuba helping Haiti yes Castro send us doctors and those doctors are the fiber of the Haitian health care system specially in the country side how ever please note the Haitian government does get a bill from Fidel for that service.
Again if the purpose of this site is to provide transparency to the world (who gives what amount of aid money in term of cash to Haiti and what project it goes to) You cannot include technical assistance which monetary value is based on what the donors feel its worth, not on actual cash donated. The Catholic church alone collected 300mil USD in the name of helping Haiti through their various organization worldwide,the purpose of this site is to show even those that contributed a dollar during Sunday mass how much of that money actually went to the Haitian government and what it was spend on. Please do not forget also this is a fluid situation, adjustments will be made.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Most of the hard cash is held until after the next election.
We wouldn't want to write a blank check to any of the thieves in the current administration.
From: Haiti
Lets face it. Haitian has provided cheap labor for the Dominican business to thrive and Haitians will buy or import products from Dominican small business to re-sell in Haiti so as nighbors haitians and dominicans help each other out. what we fail to realize is the BIG business in D.R. and Haiti that are reaping the rewards for bribery and tax invasion etc...
the little people should focus on the bigger picture.
Written by: shelinoF, 17 Aug 2010 8:05 PM
From: Turks and Caicos Islands
F*cking ungrateful Haitians. We could them into our hospitals where medication and facilities used are paid and brought by Dominican tax payers money, new university is not hard cash? are you kidding me? well what do you used to buy raw materials and pay the workers to build the university? Even if the Dominican republic dont give the monies pledge we have done alot for those ungrateful. hatitains stay in Haiti and stop invading the Dominican republic as if its your territory. D.R is not the only country that hasnt provided the said pledge monies, from what i can recal it has only been 3 or 4 countries so fa that has given the money, Norway, Brazil, Estonia and Australia and most countries are afraid to gave away thier taxpayer's money to Haiti because of the high curruption level in Haiti. Ungrateful bastards, no matter what you do for them, they are never happy...
From: United States
shelinoF,
Are you bipolar? Read the article again instead of grandstanding. You sound like a true moron.
Etienne,
I miss you man :-{. welcome back
Written by: martin, 17 Aug 2010 9:47 PM
From: United States, boston to S.P.M 23
look people we do the best 2 help dos in need les go back 2 1800's wen haitians used 2 be more powerful dan us was they used 2 kill dominicans now we'll tryin 2 help dem and look wat they sayin bout us i tink they hav 2 undestand that is people in us country dat need help 2 and we first hav 2 deal with us problem in we citys
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
@ ShelinoF Mrs third world Cop,please give my regards to your beautiful Haitian wife
Are you aware this not something that is done in a Haitian vacuum, This is something which involved The UN, The World Bank and their accounting practice who also is in charge of administering these funds for a hefty fee. Even Bill Clinton as our new Vice Roy is involved with these numbers, for he has the final say on everything.
Side-note By the way do you know how much that illegal migration is worth to the Dominican
economy do you understand that dynamic or am I talking above your head at the moment, why do you think it is tolerated? Please educate me inquiring mind wants to know.
Remember even a parasite serve a purpose in nature.
Written by: Grosero, 18 Aug 2010 8:06 AM
From: United States
Dominican Republic didn’t pledge hard cash to those lazy haitians..
Dominican's don't even like haitians
From: United States
This is very ungrateful on the part of the Haitian government. They're probably pissed off because we didn't give cash to the thieves that continue to starve the masses. We may not have pledged hard cash but we definitely pledged tons of hard, heavy food and medicines. We also allowed their injured masses to be treated at our hospitals and clinics throughout the country. Now we get that slap in the face, how convenient. Thanks for nothing Haiti!!!!
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
How much did Paraison pledge?
That's the "we deserve every thing negro mentallity" just like their cousin in the USA.
You know what they need? TRUJILLO, we need our country back!
Written by: lovingit, 19 Aug 2010 12:20 AM
From: United States, Delaware
ignoranceisbliss
The comments are not delusional. These would be the comments from people who unlike you, may have not followed the situation closely. The web posting is misleading and the posting itself would be what will cause those comments.
As a matter of fact, although the DR appears on the on the Kind Contribution link I provided above, when you go to the pledge map (which is one of the links with the highest visibility on the web site) you'll see that on the lower right corner there is a box for Kind Contributions... as of the time of this posting, it said NO kind contributions have been made:
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=190&pid=126It should at least link directly to the kind contribution page.
From: United States
lovingit,
we all know that cuba and dr has been haitis biggest contributor during this tough time. the page was designed for transparency and to keep the donors feet to the fire. It wasnt a slight to dominicans and cubans. You might take it as a slap in the face but it isnt.
Written by: ElFactor, 24 Aug 2010 12:13 PM
From: United States
These Haitians are f**l of s**t, as usual.
Written by: abc200, 3 Sep 2010 4:45 PM
From: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic
Venezula gives the most - over twice as much as mean USA!
Ven 2.4 billion
USA 1 .1 billion.
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&pUSA won't give more than 1/10 of the cost of a new aircraft carrier!
Canada and Europe are more generous.
MEAN Obama!
S.
From: Dominican Republic, No Spin Zone
abc you pathetic commie wanker !.......I dont think even the Reds would accept you
From: Dominican Republic, Dominican Republic
The Haitian government website, updated today, shows the financial and in-kind contributions together on the same page. The DR's in-kind contribution is listed as $110 million, with $60 million pledged for FY2010 and $50 million for FY2011.
See it at:
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&pid=126 (It is also interesting to see what other countries have pledged)
I don't know what was shown before, but the DR's contribution, along with those of other countries, is quite clear now.
Besides humanitarian concerns, the DR has a strong national interest in Haiti getting back on its feet because its continued problems will inevitably have negative impacts on the DR.
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The best we could do is promise to give some money from the next big loan we get.
And this is a surprise ?
LF is an empty suited, pathologically corrupt liar.
Call him on the carpet and watch him dance.
Does NOTHING embrarass a Dominican? NO, because they are inbred entitled, there are NO consequences to their actions.
http://www.elcaribe.com.do/site/i....tid=104:nacionales&Itemid=115
The Pledge Map has financial pledges made to Haiti at the March 30, 2010 UN Donors Conference in NYC & In Kind CONTRIBUTIONS. Most of these PLEDGES have not even been fulfilled. While DR didn't pledge funds at that event they have, and continue to provide a ton of actual, In Kind CONTRIBUTIONS, valued at $110 million! This is only rivaled by Cuba's long term medical operations, many of which were already in place. Haitians know, DR and Cuba actually contribute while the rest "pledge".
Look next to the "funds" section to see in kind contributions listed, marked by blue flag on Map.
Pledge Map http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=190&pid=126
Pledge List http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&p
These are Haiti's best f
We are great full and humble by your help I'm sure there will be an Ave name after LF when the new P-Au-P is rebuild. Please note the purpose of this whole endeavor of posting this aid online was done to serve two purpose, one to keep those who attended the donors conference feet to the fire, second to show transparency on the part of the Haitian government. In accounting you have two column account receivable and account payable those numbers got to be real. Sorry for feeling you did not get your props, but what you are advocating is what those boys in Houston (Enron) used to do.
Side note- Many countries like Venezuela,Cuba raised eyebrows at the Donors conference,but the reality is their figures had nothing to do with cash donated but inflated by what they feel their services is worth to Haitian society( that's cannot be put on the books as funds received)
For all of you giving minuses for people expressing their discontent with the publication, you have to look at it this way: If you go to the web site, it simply says "Who is helping Haiti?" DR and Cuba show 0.00, which gives the impression, to anyone that visits the site that the DR has not helped at all.
cont...
Still, I do not regret the help provided to the Haitians because they need all of the solidarity they could need and I don't blame the Haitian people, but their goverment. It is a disgraceful publication and the Haitian GOVERMENT should have thought better before publishing it as is because it discredits the aid we provided. Unless you are a person who has followed this closely, you'll think the DR has not helped.
Many will be confused unless the web site and the posting is rectified.
From different point of views:
Dominicans: We have not done what!!!?
Haitians in Haiti: Ahhh, so that are they doing here? puttin up a show?
Haitians in other parts of the World: “Those a$$hole Dominicans never help us?”
The World: “Wow, what a bunch of a$$holes those Dominicans are”
There is saying that says: "Ellos mismos se clavaron el cuchillo" ("They stabbed themsleves with the knife")
And the Haitian goverment is just doing that unless rectified.
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&p
Should be part of the first page. Make it easy and simple for EVERYONE to see.
Every haitian I know knows DR was the biggest contributor to haiti after the earthquake. your draws too tight.
Dominicans: We have not done what!!!?
Haitians in Haiti: Ahhh, so that are they doing here? puttin up a show?
Haitians in other parts of the World: “Those a$$hole Dominicans never help us?”
The World: “Wow, what a bunch of a$$holes those Dominicans are”
Youre delusional for those comments. Everyone knows the help recieved from Cuba and Dr is immeasurable and haiti will be forever grateful
Ungrateful Haitians.
Not Surprised.
What should we do now in responds?
i could not get enough on the chicharron adn the presidentes .
some of you are just too tired, need to take a break !
In regard to Cuba helping Haiti yes Castro send us doctors and those doctors are the fiber of the Haitian health care system specially in the country side how ever please note the Haitian government does get a bill from Fidel for that service.
Again if the purpose of this site is to provide transparency to the world (who gives what amount of aid money in term of cash to Haiti and what project it goes to) You cannot include technical assistance which monetary value is based on what the donors feel its worth, not on actual cash donated. The Catholic church alone collected 300mil USD in the name of helping Haiti through their various organization worldwide,the purpose of this site is to show even those that contributed a dollar during Sunday mass how much of that money actually went to the Haitian government and what it was spend on. Please do not forget also this is a fluid situation, adjustments will be made.
We wouldn't want to write a blank check to any of the thieves in the current administration.
the little people should focus on the bigger picture.
Are you bipolar? Read the article again instead of grandstanding. You sound like a true moron.
Etienne,
I miss you man :-{. welcome back
Are you aware this not something that is done in a Haitian vacuum, This is something which involved The UN, The World Bank and their accounting practice who also is in charge of administering these funds for a hefty fee. Even Bill Clinton as our new Vice Roy is involved with these numbers, for he has the final say on everything.
Side-note By the way do you know how much that illegal migration is worth to the Dominican
economy do you understand that dynamic or am I talking above your head at the moment, why do you think it is tolerated? Please educate me inquiring mind wants to know.
Remember even a parasite serve a purpose in nature.
Dominican's don't even like haitians
That's the "we deserve every thing negro mentallity" just like their cousin in the USA.
You know what they need? TRUJILLO, we need our country back!
The comments are not delusional. These would be the comments from people who unlike you, may have not followed the situation closely. The web posting is misleading and the posting itself would be what will cause those comments.
As a matter of fact, although the DR appears on the on the Kind Contribution link I provided above, when you go to the pledge map (which is one of the links with the highest visibility on the web site) you'll see that on the lower right corner there is a box for Kind Contributions... as of the time of this posting, it said NO kind contributions have been made:
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=190&pid=126
It should at least link directly to the kind contribution page.
we all know that cuba and dr has been haitis biggest contributor during this tough time. the page was designed for transparency and to keep the donors feet to the fire. It wasnt a slight to dominicans and cubans. You might take it as a slap in the face but it isnt.
Ven 2.4 billion
USA 1 .1 billion.
http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&p
USA won't give more than 1/10 of the cost of a new aircraft carrier!
Canada and Europe are more generous.
MEAN Obama!
S.
See it at: http://www.refondation.ht/index.jsp?sid=1&id=191&pid=126 (It is also interesting to see what other countries have pledged)
I don't know what was shown before, but the DR's contribution, along with those of other countries, is quite clear now.
Besides humanitarian concerns, the DR has a strong national interest in Haiti getting back on its feet because its continued problems will inevitably have negative impacts on the DR.