Santo Domingo.- Dominican Foreign Relations minister Carlos Morales yesterday said his country is prepared to mediate in the political crisis that affects Haiti, without interfering in the Haitian Government’s internal affairs.
Morales said the country’s mediation would be established through the United Nations, the Organization of American Sates (OAS), the European Union and the Haiti donor countries, including Brazil, the United States and Canada. “Anything which the Dominican Republic ca do without meddling in the internal affairs (of Haiti), we’ve always been willing to do it. We are in the best disposition to help Haiti so that it looks for a peaceful and democratic solution to the electoral crisis.”
The Dominican official noted however that Haiti’s Electoral Commission will hand down its ruling before January 30.
He said Haiti president René Préval’s visit to his par Leonel Fernandez in the National Palace on Saturday is one more example of the Dominican chief executive’s openness in international relations, since he has received other heads of State.
PRÉVAL VISITS FERNANDEZ
Préval’s unannounced visit to Fernandez on Saturday served to discuss the neighboring nation’s sanitary, economic and political crises, the latter further spiraled since the winner has yet to be declared.
From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo
It will be almost impossible to please everyone in this situation ,Before the election there were many complaints and accusations about the electoral commission , during the election there were more accusations and after the results were posted there are accusations of fraud and vote rigging .
Morales says that we are in the best position to help in this electoral crisis,but I think we are too close and it is far better to do everything through a joint body .
From: Dominican Republic, Santiago
Ricardo, I agree 100%. DR has too many fish in this frying pan and it will opaque the necessary transparency. There are better solutions. Especially, since Preval himself is a leftover from the Duvalier days. Where is the accountability for all the donatyions made? Why has Clinton not been more vocal about what has happened after he and the Devil Bush asked the world to trust them and donate? Why is the defunct Haitian government allowed to derail the distribution of resources in the Country, earmarked for the suffering Haitian? Why is there such a demand placed on DR to absorb the Illegals and no assistance for DR? This is a International problem and it is all connected.
Written by: matador, 24 Jan 2011 10:18 AM
From: United States, www.brugal-ron.com/home.php
How about letting the Haitian deal with their own Goverments Problems, Let them fix it.
Written by: Yucahu, 24 Jan 2011 10:28 AM
From: United States, Miami
Dominicans have to control Haiti because their are no men over their, just little boys squabbling over crumbs. Haitians, your situation is so sad.
Written by: Yucahu, 24 Jan 2011 10:29 AM
From: United States, Miami
That is your main export; Sadness.
Written by: juanb, 24 Jan 2011 10:34 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Hey Morales:
Fix us first!!!
Where are the jobs?
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Countries cannot mediate. People do.
So, who is it going to be. Leonel??
Not sure it's a good idea, for the possibility of conflicts of interests.
So, a commission? They work so well here , idon't see why they wouldn´t in Haiti too.
Reports on a shelf. When they report at all.
Written by: generoso, 24 Jan 2011 11:39 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya
Well done by the DR government. Minister Morales is issuing a canned diplomatic statement to please Preval, but in no way wanting to arbiter in that mess, caused by poor and inept timing.
LF knows that Preval came to bring a "poison gift" and is not as naive as he may seem. This electoral mess was allowed to compound because of Preval's greed and now he is looking for saviors.
The revolving door is in motion and Preval and his minions should exit quickly while they can.
Written by: Atabey, 24 Jan 2011 12:00 PM
From: United States, NYC
Treat this with a 10 foot pole. Canned suggestions with no obligations. We have enough issues to deal with, and this Haitian quagmire has more heads than the Lernaean Hydra monster of Greek mythology.
Written by: Pepe32, 24 Jan 2011 12:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Let me negotiate with them ...I will offer them Leonel as their president for 12 years ...he is building their university anyhow and seems to be so concerned with the Haitian anyhow.
So Leonel to Haiti and Castillo as DR president and Leonel can figure out what to do when Castillo begins repatriations!!
From: Haiti
I feel that my Haitian government needs to be more decisive. We Haitians are getting sick and tired of the inability of our government to function at the most basic levels. Preval is not a leader and his focus is to blur the vision of those who voted for the non-Jude Celestin candidates. Stop running to others to solve our problems.
I must mention, however, Haiti has been a victim (far too long) of other countries (we know who they are) that intervene at their own interests. This has conditioned Haiti's leaders to lean on everybody else for advise and advisement. Haiti needs a strong hand and a hand of discipline. Stop allowing other countries to pull our strings (France and the US).
Written by: ny4life, 24 Jan 2011 12:28 PM
From: United States, New York, NY
Castillo for President 2012!!!
It's about soverignty, a dignified life, healthcare, housing, jobs, education, its about a better Dominican Republic for All Dominicans!!
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
There is no crisis this matter have already been decided by the OAS decision whom Preval had brought in as an Arbitrary expert. They have decided the run off should be between Mirlande Manigat and Michel Martelly, the choice the people want .Jude Celestin and Unite is out. All that need to be done is for the CEP to make the changes official and set the date for the run off.
CarmenReyers- in regards to the Aid money after the earthquake Bubba and the Provisional Council might be able to tell you more about what is happening to it because the Haitian government have not gotten it either( never mind most of these donors wrote checks they could not cash). What you have donated to organization like the red cross in the name of the suffering of the Haitian people as usual most of that money does not goes to the cause you give to. it goes to these organization budget needs. You are lucky if your cause get 30% of total donation.
Written by: Yucahu, 24 Jan 2011 3:50 PM
From: United States, Miami
They are lucky if they get 2%. Haiti should give Leonel citizenship and allow him to run for pres!! Superlover I hope more Haitians are like you, you sound like a cool dude.
Written by: Pepe32, 24 Jan 2011 4:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Haitians only understand ruthless dictators ,that's why though the Duvaliers were monsters it was the last time that Haiti had some form of stability.
Unfortunately DR has in some sectors a similar mentality although we have left the Trujillo age long behind people expect presidents to be saviours and need a strong government to keep them in check!
Again ,Haiti has been hurt from the outside as has DR but the MAIN problem in Haiti is internal and has to do with the mentality of the people ,once Haitians leave Haiti and start to assimilate another culture they are able to progress just like people in the Ghettos of the US who shed the baclwards culture of the Ghettos are able to progress .
Haitians need to look in the mirror and see their main problem and stop making excuses for if you blame someone else you are ignoring the things that YOU as a nation can change instead of blaming others and expecting them to fix things for you !
From: Canada, Ottawa
Today, Haitian people need your help and your support. We are a strong people,if Dominican&Haitian have a home today it's because of one MAN TOUSSANT LOUVERTURE!! Dominican don't forget ;you are bothers & sisters with Haitian.
THE HAITIAN CULTURE WILL NOT CHANGE and THE CREOLE LANGUAGE WILL STAY!!!
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2011 8:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic
"THE HAITIAN CULTURE WILL NOT CHANGE and THE CREOLE LANGUAGE WILL STAY!!!"
Then you are doomed because those two are your biggest weaknesses and what seperates you from the world. If we are in any way brothers it is your Cain to our Abel!
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2011 8:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Kanpe ,you will have our support but you on your side and us on ours ,we don't feel the same "brotherhood" with you but we understand that you are doing badly .
As far as Toussaint it is very convenient that you mention him and not Boyer ,Dessalines and Soulouque ,the monsters who raped ,burned and raped and pillaged our land.
At this point the best we can be is good neighbors and only if your country accepts us as a sovereign state with a different culture and language...otherwise we will not be good neighbors or at worse we will be enemies again.
Written by: ejjp24, 25 Jan 2011 9:19 PM
From: Haiti
No Thank you! we don't need that. We Haitians put ourselves in that situation, we can get out of it. Don't let DR meddling in our internal affairs. They don't like us after we governed them for 20 + years. They don't have any love for us.
From: Canada, Ottawa
Pepe, I am sure you have a heart and same humanity; We just come from a huge tagedy and you talk about be our enemies?? Pepe,we are not separete from the WORLD, t world love us and wish us the best, they are TOLERANT they don't want kill our culture, the respect our HUGE NATION!! It'sWAS US WHO MADE THE ISLAND HISPAGNOLA FREE FROM SLAVERY! IF HAITIANS HAVE TO LEARN SPANISH, DOMINICANS HAVE TO LEARN CREOLE=!!
DOMINICAN & HAITIAN',,,TIME TO LOVE!!!
Written by: Pepe32, 25 Jan 2011 10:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Kanpe,as human beings I feel for you but the reality is that your culture is what holds you back and your language separates you from us and most of this hemisphere .
You have not saved anyone from slavery because slavery exists today in Haiti. We can and will help but we don't see history from the same angle ...
BTW love without respect is worthless ..
From: Canada, Ottawa
pepe, you can have your owm opinion it ok,, i grow up in canada in a very multicultural country , no one ask me to change my culture this is the diff between a big country and an island like hispagnola!! in 1804 is true haitian made the island hispagnola free. the most powerful countries acc creole as a true language. 8 countries speak this nice language like st lucia, st dominica..tolerance,, get to know us,,,my culture is nice please not mix social problems with culture .. i am respectful, i go to college, i never live in povrety, i speak 3 languages my culture is ok very ok. how you will feel if i ask you ;stop to speak spanish,and learn creole. a culture and a language is who you are. even you think i haitian not the same k of human as you, let me tell you my great grand father was dominican. you want or don't want i feel all haitians & dominicans have the same history!! i love my country and island, dominican rep is also my island.. i love you dominicans because we are one!!
From: United States
Culture and Language have little to do with the situation in Haiti. It is the result of have a very rough beginning and a very turbulent political system every since. People just assume that Haitian culture makes them 'behind' or 'incompatible' with the rest of the world, when in reality it has little to do with anything. Haiti has a Language, Music, History, Food, Traditions, Morals and Expectations like EVERY other Nation. But regardless of anything, I would rather see the Dominican Republic and Haiti come together as respective peoples sharing the precious Island of Quisqueya(or Ayiti, whatever you want). History has thus far told us a very sad story concerning the Dominican Republic and Haiti, it would be good if that story had a good ending.
From: Canada, Ottawa
PEPE, WE ARE NOT SEPARETE FROM THE HEMISPHERE. DO YOU REALY KNOW US?? HAITI IS THE MOST POPULAR PLACE IN THE CARIBEANS!! AS A CANADIAN CITIZEN SAME TIME I GO TO U.S.A and they know evrt about Haiti. Do you rl know CREOLE; CREOLE has root with Taino ARABIC & AFRICAN languages, it's also very close to SPANISH, Portuguss, French,English we are close to theWORLD we have one part of ervone.
From: Canada, Ottawa
Bernard, very good point ! I don't how our social, politc problems have samthing to do with culture or language..nice comment!!
Written by: Pepe32, 30 Jan 2011 10:29 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Ahh Bernard ,the sickness of multiculturalism...
Having a different culture does not make all cultures equal and outside the PC world the results are what matters.
Haiti has had problems as have many other poor nations but in Haiti they were not prepared for the administration of a nation because you cannot create a nation full of illiterates and with backwards cultural precepts and expect it to succeed.
The issue of Kreyol is one that separates most Haitians from a linguistic affinity with MOST of the nations in this hemisphere in which Spanish,English and French are dominant .
Kanpe...pray tell me how Haiti is the most popular place in the Caribbean??
Bernard,the OFFICIAL name of the island is LA ESPAÑOLA or HISPANIOLA in English and since Haiti is the name of the western third it is definitely not acceptable as a name for the island.
Kanpe.anyone who is thinking will consider learning English ,Spanish and Chinese ,attachment to peripheral languages will only hold you
Written by: Pepe32, 30 Jan 2011 10:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
How many great author write in Kreyol ?
How many scientific journals are written in Kreyol ?
How many Nobel prize winners in Kreyol ?
How many inventions were thought in Kreyol ?
Who determines the laws governing the Kreyol language?
Is their such a thing as an authority to determine what is correct and incorrect in Kreyol??
You see Kreyol is an informal "language" ,which is ok if you want to use it at home but knowing Kreyol alone and being illiterate are almost the same thing in PRACTICAL terms.
If Haiti had French as the language spoken by ALL and a marginalised or non existent vudun Haiti would change but the attachment to the weakest parts of your heritage will keep you down .
From: Canada, Ottawa
Pepe, are you sure you are spanish? I ask.. wich panet do you came from,T don't have one country in Americas they speak French(Martinique, Gradelope.. Thier plag are France) Canada has 10 provinces only one speak french but about 40% french 40% English and 20 Alophone..I can't believe in 2011 one person can be as much discriminatory and intolerant. Wyclef Jean is a millionaire Haitian/American singer and he sing in CREOLE or KREYOL and his fans love all his songs English or Creole. I am happy is not you one of the most powerfull person in the world. Even, I underline your ETHNOCENTRISM, I still love dominicans as my brothers and sisters HISPAGNOLA is my land as well Canada is my land. Don't forget a lot of Haitians speak 2up to 6 languages, I am not sure you are Dominican, if yes you should know same Haitian have two mother tongue CREOLE AND "PANYOL" Spanish.I am ready to learn Spanish.. even I already speak 3 languages, you know why for my great grand father who was Spanish speakrer
From: Canada, Ottawa
Pepe, Creole will not speak only at home is not you who decides.Did Creole speakers tell you where to speak Spanish,even you call us illiterate we respect your Language.Haiti is the most popular country in the caribbeans because all the world know we was the first slave country who take his freedom in 1804.Here in Ottawa Canada in the place I live I ask to the library to put more Creole books and they agree, I have right now in my hands one Oxford dictionary Englis/' Haitian' Creole that I order from the same library you claim Creole is an informal language..This dictionary was pint in New York in 1999 by OXFORD UNIVERSITY PRESS, In front of the Port au Prince or Potoprins air port there have a big globe it write in Creole "nan anpil chay pa lou" this globe is a gift from Bill Clinton, M. Clinton LOVE deeply our culture and Language..Pepe keep your hate for you, discrimination is not no longer accept in democracy in 2011! The CREOLE Language will STAY, as the Haitian Culure and Faith!!
From: Canada, Ottawa
The former Prisident of U.S. A ( The bigest power country in the world) Bill Clinton said Haitian are a strong people, he said he will work hard to help us. Haiti is one of the favourite place of Bill Clinton. I know Haiti and Dominican Rep will wake up and our island will be in peace. LOVE!! LOVE!! LOVE!!
Written by: Pepe32, 1 Feb 2011 9:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Dude wake up!!
Dictionary printed in 1999 wow!!
Haiti is the most popular place in the caribbean !!
Clinton loves Haiti!! (well maybe young female restaviks)
If I felt the same way I would hold on to bad Spanish and not try to improve.
Praise Trujillo for his "accomplishments."
Deny any wrong in my country
Living in DELUSION means you never admit the base problem and if you don't admit your problems you can never overcome them.
Haitian children who live in decent housing ,eat three meals a day and have some sort of future are not really going to care what language is spoken nor if vudun disappears for those who emigrate (and prosper) eventually lose all those elements that are backwards regressive traits.
If Haitian children can be happy and speaking French or English ,what is the problem???
Do you prefer them to starve and suffer but keep an obscure dialect alive which will eventually disappear anyhow?
From: Canada, Ottawa
Pepe, you don't merit that I true to convince you, your hate for my Nation, My LANGUAGE, my culture is too deep. You don't accept the truth, you just wish to see my culture "KILL" I tell you again, I from to a professional class family in Haiti, I speak 3 LANGUAGES incl CREOLE/KREOL I know the creole grammar..Is not you who will teach me what is my Language. Creole, Spanish, French, Italien, Portuguese.. are all same where Latin DIALECTS..Pepe EVOLUTION you k what that mean? YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT CREOLE/KREOL. You should STOP!! YOU BREAK the people right with your violent speech..We don't need your advice, I an Haitian/Canadian, a college student, I am in the late 20s, I don't need your help to learn about my Language. If you don't agree Creole is an official language in 2 country in the world; write to Human right or G8 or..I say is NOT YOU WHO DECIDE!! As a lady who speak 3 LANGUAGES, the one who is so so close to my HEART is CREOLE! CREOLE WILL STAY, CREOLE, CREOLE!!
From: United States
Haitian Kreyol has more than 12 million speakers and is here to stay. It is now an official language and is now used in instruction and government.
It has more speakers than Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish,
Hebrew, Bulgarian, Serbian and as many as Greek and Czech....all SINGLE country languages.
As you can see, a unique language has never prevented any country from progressing.
Haiti has two official languages; Haitian Kreyol and French with English as a growing third language.
Spanish is useless to Haiti......English is the third language Haitians should learn.
Written by: Pepe32, 2 Feb 2011 5:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Kanpe,the point is to speak to the rest of the world and to this forum you need another language because kreyol limits you and separates you.
If you want to study great literature you can't do it in kreyol
If you want to become a true professional in any field you can't do it in kreyol
My point is not that you CANNOT keep Kreyol,you can speak Klingon if you wish but Kreyol limits your progress no matter how much you love it!
From: United States
Whatever language you speak (French, Spanish or their derivative) just teach your children to read and write it. It's a national embarrassment that the illiteracy rate is so high. That's why you get comments of backwardness from people. Stop cutting down trees for fuel, that's ass- backwards, not to mention detrimental to the environment and for God's sake stop running around with other people's poop in a bag for voodoo works, which is an affront to our Judeo- Christian sensibilities.
From: Canada, Ottawa
To all of you who hate my language Creole/Kreyol, Creole is official in 2 countries in the world!! And 4 countries over the 6 others work hard to make Creole official in thier land. Here in Ottawa Canada I have same friends from St. Lucia they speak Creole very well.. and think for 10 minutes I was talking to my grand Mother..I am proud to call my self CREOLE SPEAKER! PEOPLE FROM ST. MORICE FAR TO THE CARIBBEANS SPEAK CREOLE AND we CAN COMMUNICATE.KREYOL/CREOLE is the most beautiful language in the world.The CREOLE language in culture WILL STAY!!
From: United States
Pepe32; don't the Greeks, Finns and Swedes talk to the world.
Again Haiti has two official languages Haitian and French...while English is fast gaining ground.
That is all Haiti needs.
Spanish is worthless to Haiti and Haitians.
From: United States
venganzaderafael; Haitians could not care less about your judeo-christian sensibilities.
that is your personal issue if you want to worship a dead jewish homosexual.
we will do our vaudou...and you can do your own superstition.
Written by: Pepe32, 12 Feb 2011 11:41 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Antichrist ,only a fool would consider languages like Greek,Finnish and Swedish equal to that hodgepodge called Kreyol with a majority of speakers who happen to be illiterate and which arose from complete ignorance and illiteracy.
Haiti has two official languages of which only a small EDUCATED minority knows French while the vast UNEDUCATED majority speaks kreyol.
The one point you made that makes sense is for Haitians to learn English although it is hard to learn another language when you are illiterate so the first goal should be to educate in French as a mandatory subject and then worry about learning other languages ,
Written by: Pepe32, 12 Feb 2011 11:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic
So all of you don't worry you can keep your kreyol and your demon worship and your restaviks and your brilliant human rights record and your fabulous culture that has only produced misery for your people or you can have pity on your children and CHANGE...it is up to you but please stop depending on others and flooding other nations without invitation and then expect to have things your way ...
You are the enemies of Haiti and its people with your false pride while you are comfortably living outside Haiti fattening like pigs while many don't eat or eat dirt!!
You cry to the world to help Haiti yet you blame the world for your problems ...why don't you take responsibility for once and either accept the generosity of others who have no reason to help you or reject all help and prove you can carry your own weight because you can't have it both ways.
This is probably the last chance for Haiti because the world community is growing tired of the effort expended only to see things wors
From: Canada, Ottawa
pepe, you don't merit any answer.. keep your hate..rense nan bouch,, nan pa manyin ti pep sa w we la..nou pa poukont an nou..rablabla jouk ou bouke!!! ou pa gen ankin'n enpotans... se tipe m' tipe w'....
Written by: Pepe32, 13 Feb 2011 12:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Kanpe,I don't hate you I pity you ...especially the children who suffer because of your ignorance a idiotic pride in that ignorance.
Now you see you understood that but most of the world would not understand the gibberish you just wrote which means you are isolated by your stubbornness .
Good luck and keep repeating failed mantras and believing that if you try the same failed method over and over it will succeed .
Bon nuit mon ami.
From: Canada, Ottawa
Pepe, The Creole language suvivre for more than 3000 years against the FRENCH colonisation, is not you today in 2011 who will kill this LANGUAGE. Do you know CREOLE/KREYOL/KWEYOL is not only the Haitian Kreyol we share this LANGUAGE with 8 other countries like; Ste Lucia, Martinique, St Dominica, La reunion, St Morice Island,..We are 6 creole speaker countries in the Caribbens, and about 2COUNTRIES in the out side of AMERICAS..
PEPE, DON'T TELL ME YOU ARE JALOUS OF kreyol...? KREOL LA PAP MONTE L' PAP DESAN'N L'AP KANPE DJANM, PA GEN MOUNE KI KA CRAZE NOU, NOU TE GOUMEN AK PEP FRENCE, NOU TE BAT NAPOLEON..NOU SE YOUN PEP KI PA PE CHAY..NOU GRAN MOUN,,,WE DON'T NEED YOUR PITY.. kEEP U PITY AND U INTOLERANCE FOR YOU!! NOUS AVON TOUJOUR UN PEU DE FIERTE!! NOUS AVONS LA FOI, CONFIENCE EN DIEU ET DANS LA VIE. JE VOIS QUE TU N'ES PAS UN HUMANISTE! OU TRO PITI POU W' TA LAGE KILTI AYITIAN AN ATE, M' AP DEBAT E M'AP BAT POU NOU KANPE!!
BON NUIT MON AMI = in creole; BON LANWIT ZANMI ! KWE
From: Canada, Ottawa
kweyol/kreyol/creole sa se pi bel lang ki genyin ...ou vle jete nou,, ou pap sis!!
the creole/kreyol language is here for stay!!! u.s.a accept kreyol creole is the 3 language in florida after english and spanish,,, in florida you can do your citizen american exam in creole!!! se pa vle jete kreyol la ou pap sis !!
From: United States
@pepe32
actually the fool is you.
You obviously know NOTHING about Haitian Kreyol or languages in general.
Illiteracy is one issue that has NOTHING to do with the language spoken....one can be illiterate in any language.
the point you are unable to understand is that the language spoken does not prevent any country from advancing.
most of the world would also not understand what a greek or a Norwegian wrote.....that is why your argument lacks intelligence.
Like it or not, Haiti has two official languages...HAITIAN and FRENCH. And English should be studied.
spanish is of NO WORTH
The issue of what language(s) haitians speak should be of no concern to you a dominican.
Your only concern should be your country and your border...CLOSE IT...SEAL IT....if you and your people don't have the balls to do it...then be quiet and accept the invasion of poor Haitians unable to gain access to a good country.
From: United States
Pepe32 wrote
"You cry to the world to help Haiti yet you blame the world for your problems ...why don't you take responsibility for once and either accept the generosity of others who have no reason to help you or reject all help and prove you can carry your own weight because you can't have it both ways.
This is probably the last chance for Haiti because the world community is growing tired of the effort expended only to see things wors"
Actually what we want most if for the other countries of the americas to stay the hell out of our affairs.
But they refuse and keep sticking their noses in our issues......plotting coups...arming mercenaries...kidnapping elected presidents.
But you as a dominican..need not worry about the other countries....worry about yours.
CLOSE and SEAL your border and stop the whining.......if you can't then all you are doing is blowing hot air.
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Morales says that we are in the best position to help in this electoral crisis,but I think we are too close and it is far better to do everything through a joint body .
Hey Morales:
Fix us first!!!
Where are the jobs?
So, who is it going to be. Leonel??
Not sure it's a good idea, for the possibility of conflicts of interests.
So, a commission? They work so well here , idon't see why they wouldn´t in Haiti too.
Reports on a shelf. When they report at all.
Well done by the DR government. Minister Morales is issuing a canned diplomatic statement to please Preval, but in no way wanting to arbiter in that mess, caused by poor and inept timing.
LF knows that Preval came to bring a "poison gift" and is not as naive as he may seem. This electoral mess was allowed to compound because of Preval's greed and now he is looking for saviors.
The revolving door is in motion and Preval and his minions should exit quickly while they can.
So Leonel to Haiti and Castillo as DR president and Leonel can figure out what to do when Castillo begins repatriations!!
I must mention, however, Haiti has been a victim (far too long) of other countries (we know who they are) that intervene at their own interests. This has conditioned Haiti's leaders to lean on everybody else for advise and advisement. Haiti needs a strong hand and a hand of discipline. Stop allowing other countries to pull our strings (France and the US).
It's about soverignty, a dignified life, healthcare, housing, jobs, education, its about a better Dominican Republic for All Dominicans!!
CarmenReyers- in regards to the Aid money after the earthquake Bubba and the Provisional Council might be able to tell you more about what is happening to it because the Haitian government have not gotten it either( never mind most of these donors wrote checks they could not cash). What you have donated to organization like the red cross in the name of the suffering of the Haitian people as usual most of that money does not goes to the cause you give to. it goes to these organization budget needs. You are lucky if your cause get 30% of total donation.
Unfortunately DR has in some sectors a similar mentality although we have left the Trujillo age long behind people expect presidents to be saviours and need a strong government to keep them in check!
Again ,Haiti has been hurt from the outside as has DR but the MAIN problem in Haiti is internal and has to do with the mentality of the people ,once Haitians leave Haiti and start to assimilate another culture they are able to progress just like people in the Ghettos of the US who shed the baclwards culture of the Ghettos are able to progress .
Haitians need to look in the mirror and see their main problem and stop making excuses for if you blame someone else you are ignoring the things that YOU as a nation can change instead of blaming others and expecting them to fix things for you !
THE HAITIAN CULTURE WILL NOT CHANGE and THE CREOLE LANGUAGE WILL STAY!!!
Then you are doomed because those two are your biggest weaknesses and what seperates you from the world. If we are in any way brothers it is your Cain to our Abel!
As far as Toussaint it is very convenient that you mention him and not Boyer ,Dessalines and Soulouque ,the monsters who raped ,burned and raped and pillaged our land.
At this point the best we can be is good neighbors and only if your country accepts us as a sovereign state with a different culture and language...otherwise we will not be good neighbors or at worse we will be enemies again.
DOMINICAN & HAITIAN',,,TIME TO LOVE!!!
You have not saved anyone from slavery because slavery exists today in Haiti. We can and will help but we don't see history from the same angle ...
BTW love without respect is worthless ..
Having a different culture does not make all cultures equal and outside the PC world the results are what matters.
Haiti has had problems as have many other poor nations but in Haiti they were not prepared for the administration of a nation because you cannot create a nation full of illiterates and with backwards cultural precepts and expect it to succeed.
The issue of Kreyol is one that separates most Haitians from a linguistic affinity with MOST of the nations in this hemisphere in which Spanish,English and French are dominant .
Kanpe...pray tell me how Haiti is the most popular place in the Caribbean??
Bernard,the OFFICIAL name of the island is LA ESPAÑOLA or HISPANIOLA in English and since Haiti is the name of the western third it is definitely not acceptable as a name for the island.
Kanpe.anyone who is thinking will consider learning English ,Spanish and Chinese ,attachment to peripheral languages will only hold you
How many scientific journals are written in Kreyol ?
How many Nobel prize winners in Kreyol ?
How many inventions were thought in Kreyol ?
Who determines the laws governing the Kreyol language?
Is their such a thing as an authority to determine what is correct and incorrect in Kreyol??
You see Kreyol is an informal "language" ,which is ok if you want to use it at home but knowing Kreyol alone and being illiterate are almost the same thing in PRACTICAL terms.
If Haiti had French as the language spoken by ALL and a marginalised or non existent vudun Haiti would change but the attachment to the weakest parts of your heritage will keep you down .
Dictionary printed in 1999 wow!!
Haiti is the most popular place in the caribbean !!
Clinton loves Haiti!! (well maybe young female restaviks)
If I felt the same way I would hold on to bad Spanish and not try to improve.
Praise Trujillo for his "accomplishments."
Deny any wrong in my country
Living in DELUSION means you never admit the base problem and if you don't admit your problems you can never overcome them.
Haitian children who live in decent housing ,eat three meals a day and have some sort of future are not really going to care what language is spoken nor if vudun disappears for those who emigrate (and prosper) eventually lose all those elements that are backwards regressive traits.
If Haitian children can be happy and speaking French or English ,what is the problem???
Do you prefer them to starve and suffer but keep an obscure dialect alive which will eventually disappear anyhow?
It has more speakers than Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish,
Hebrew, Bulgarian, Serbian and as many as Greek and Czech....all SINGLE country languages.
As you can see, a unique language has never prevented any country from progressing.
Haiti has two official languages; Haitian Kreyol and French with English as a growing third language.
Spanish is useless to Haiti......English is the third language Haitians should learn.
If you want to study great literature you can't do it in kreyol
If you want to become a true professional in any field you can't do it in kreyol
My point is not that you CANNOT keep Kreyol,you can speak Klingon if you wish but Kreyol limits your progress no matter how much you love it!
Again Haiti has two official languages Haitian and French...while English is fast gaining ground.
That is all Haiti needs.
Spanish is worthless to Haiti and Haitians.
that is your personal issue if you want to worship a dead jewish homosexual.
we will do our vaudou...and you can do your own superstition.
Haiti has two official languages of which only a small EDUCATED minority knows French while the vast UNEDUCATED majority speaks kreyol.
The one point you made that makes sense is for Haitians to learn English although it is hard to learn another language when you are illiterate so the first goal should be to educate in French as a mandatory subject and then worry about learning other languages ,
You are the enemies of Haiti and its people with your false pride while you are comfortably living outside Haiti fattening like pigs while many don't eat or eat dirt!!
You cry to the world to help Haiti yet you blame the world for your problems ...why don't you take responsibility for once and either accept the generosity of others who have no reason to help you or reject all help and prove you can carry your own weight because you can't have it both ways.
This is probably the last chance for Haiti because the world community is growing tired of the effort expended only to see things wors
Now you see you understood that but most of the world would not understand the gibberish you just wrote which means you are isolated by your stubbornness .
Good luck and keep repeating failed mantras and believing that if you try the same failed method over and over it will succeed .
Bon nuit mon ami.
PEPE, DON'T TELL ME YOU ARE JALOUS OF kreyol...? KREOL LA PAP MONTE L' PAP DESAN'N L'AP KANPE DJANM, PA GEN MOUNE KI KA CRAZE NOU, NOU TE GOUMEN AK PEP FRENCE, NOU TE BAT NAPOLEON..NOU SE YOUN PEP KI PA PE CHAY..NOU GRAN MOUN,,,WE DON'T NEED YOUR PITY.. kEEP U PITY AND U INTOLERANCE FOR YOU!! NOUS AVON TOUJOUR UN PEU DE FIERTE!! NOUS AVONS LA FOI, CONFIENCE EN DIEU ET DANS LA VIE. JE VOIS QUE TU N'ES PAS UN HUMANISTE! OU TRO PITI POU W' TA LAGE KILTI AYITIAN AN ATE, M' AP DEBAT E M'AP BAT POU NOU KANPE!!
BON NUIT MON AMI = in creole; BON LANWIT ZANMI ! KWE
the creole/kreyol language is here for stay!!! u.s.a accept kreyol creole is the 3 language in florida after english and spanish,,, in florida you can do your citizen american exam in creole!!! se pa vle jete kreyol la ou pap sis !!
actually the fool is you.
You obviously know NOTHING about Haitian Kreyol or languages in general.
Illiteracy is one issue that has NOTHING to do with the language spoken....one can be illiterate in any language.
the point you are unable to understand is that the language spoken does not prevent any country from advancing.
most of the world would also not understand what a greek or a Norwegian wrote.....that is why your argument lacks intelligence.
Like it or not, Haiti has two official languages...HAITIAN and FRENCH. And English should be studied.
spanish is of NO WORTH
The issue of what language(s) haitians speak should be of no concern to you a dominican.
Your only concern should be your country and your border...CLOSE IT...SEAL IT....if you and your people don't have the balls to do it...then be quiet and accept the invasion of poor Haitians unable to gain access to a good country.
"You cry to the world to help Haiti yet you blame the world for your problems ...why don't you take responsibility for once and either accept the generosity of others who have no reason to help you or reject all help and prove you can carry your own weight because you can't have it both ways.
This is probably the last chance for Haiti because the world community is growing tired of the effort expended only to see things wors"
Actually what we want most if for the other countries of the americas to stay the hell out of our affairs.
But they refuse and keep sticking their noses in our issues......plotting coups...arming mercenaries...kidnapping elected presidents.
But you as a dominican..need not worry about the other countries....worry about yours.
CLOSE and SEAL your border and stop the whining.......if you can't then all you are doing is blowing hot air.