Port-au-Prince.- US actor Sean Penn has agreed a deal with the Haitian
government and the World Bank to get cash to fund a 16-month relief
project to move approximately 14,000 homeless victims of the natural
disaster off of private golf course Petionville country club, which they
have been occupying for the past three years.
Penn will use the money to
build 45 new housing units in the Delmas 32 neighbourhood and also to
subsidise rent costs. If everything goes to schedule then the first
people could be in the new properties by early 2014.
As well as
the new housing, the grant will also be used by his J/P Haitian Relief
Organization (J/P HRO) to support his "Protection" team which aims to
provide assistance to vulnerable families and prevent domestic abuse in
the local community.
From: Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), The Dentist will see you now
The Lambones will be swarming. Soon
Written by: IloveDR, 16 Mar 2013 1:13 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Waste of money with this people who never progress and never will.
From: United States, Brooklyn
waste of money.
Written by: Danilo, 16 Mar 2013 2:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
The government will ruin this effort
From: Jamaica
Sean Penn is walking the walk....I applaud his efforts. Unlike the do nothing, talk a lot of $hit squad in the DR, this man Sean is a humanitarian don.
From: Jamaica
Why do the punks always comment first?
Written by: Danilo, 16 Mar 2013 3:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
What a country that has no jobs, no education and an overabundance of people needs is sweatshops! Housing them will not solve their problems. I don't want to sound mean, it just makes sense.
Written by: Danilo, 16 Mar 2013 3:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
A businessman in Haiti is going to come up with bateys and sweatshops and it'll be considered revolutionary.
Written by: anthonyC, 16 Mar 2013 4:40 PM
From: United States
Sean Penn is just doing the biding of George Soros and his Fascist program.
Everytime you give something to the people of Haiti you are perpetuating the growth of the slave class.
Wanna help the Haitians? Dump a ship load of Hammers, Nails and Saws and tell them that is all they are going to get. See ya in 5 years.
From: Jamaica
AnthonyC, brings a good point. It got me thinking, why haven't the donors given more tangible aid to Haiti? I was reading that the Pentagon turned around and gave a bill to the US State Department for sending soldiers to Haiti after the earthquake (soldiers who I heard only handed out sandwiches and water). Of course, there were some military hospitals that did quite a bit to help the effort. The funny thing is that the money the US State Dept. reimbursed to the US military was added to the aid relief money that the US keeps hyping about. That is deceptive!
They should have donated house building material to Haiti and allow the Haitians to build their own residences. They are expert builders; just take a look at what they do around the DR. Bags of cement, plywood, nails, 2 x 4's, galvanize sheets, and other tools and the Haitians would no longer be living in tents.
Written by: Danilo, 16 Mar 2013 6:54 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Why do you guys keep talking about houses!? What they need is jobs!!!
Written by: Lautaro, 16 Mar 2013 8:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Well, Danilo, building houses isn't exactly done for free nowadays (not even if these end up being rundown bohios). Chilli is right in the sense that they already have the labor and the know-how, what is lacking there are the construction companies willing to advance the big bucks. Perhaps Odebrecht could be "persuaded" of pioneering there as part of their deals here?
Written by: Danilo, 17 Mar 2013 12:05 AM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
When all the houses are built in a year or two, what then!?
Set up some sweatshops to build exportable goods and the houses will come later.
Written by: anthonyC, 17 Mar 2013 12:32 AM
From: United States
Danilo.
Are all the house need in DR already built? in France? In Germany? In The USA?
Do construction workers eat? Do they get sick or hurt? do they wear clothes? Don't they need transportation?
Won't those workers want homes? Won't those who are successful want bigger and or better homes?
Won't all those workers be having sex and producing an new crop of people who need homes?
Construction is one of the major economic drivers in any economy.
Do you even stop to think for even a second before you post your left wing/anti-business swill?
Written by: RoyStone, 17 Mar 2013 12:50 AM
From: Australia
What they need more than anything are their tubes tied and vasectomies.
Written by: Danilo, 17 Mar 2013 12:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
We're not talking about France, Germany, or the USA. I highly doubt that your solution will create enough jobs.
Who will pay the rent for these houses if most wont have jobs?
Written by: Danilo, 17 Mar 2013 1:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Based on the lambi fund info, the average size of Haitian family is of 7 members. Maybe that's the first issue that needs to be addressed, then housing. How about requiring vasectomies in order to qualify for a house?
source: lambifund.org/WFLCampaign.shtml
Written by: RoyStone, 17 Mar 2013 5:02 AM
From: Australia
Danilo,
asks
How about requiring vasectomies in order to qualify for a house?"
Very sensible suggestion, however if Haitian men are anything like Duminican men, they would be too afraid of losing their delicate libidos, and consider babies are the mothers' responsibility anyway.
Written by: riosm, 17 Mar 2013 9:52 AM
From: United States
Soon we'll find out if this is a loan, investment or a waste of money....time will tell.
I can now see all those lining up to get their share of the green pie.
Written by: anthonyC, 17 Mar 2013 11:20 AM
From: United States
Written by: Danilo,
"How about requiring vasectomies in order to qualify for a house?"
Hitler would have loved you. And there are still people who don't realize that Fascism is a left wing political system.
Anyway.....
Like most liberals you fail to grasp even the most basic tenets of market economics. I am done with you until you actually educate yourself.
From: Botswana, La reconnaissance est une lachete'
You got to love the bias on this site. Let see the Haitian government 16 neighborhoods 6camps essentially a project to rehab the worst & poorest neighborhoods affected by the quake building roads new schools in these areas even making those home for the poor earthquake proof is the biggest thing happening in term of reconstruction at the moment in Haiti first time the needs of the very poor is being address yet this is the crap they choose to publish, never mind the funding just became avail to rebuild a major part of downtown as the new administrative building complex alike DC. Yes things are so bad in Haiti Heineken just invested 40 mil USD in BRANNA the national brewery Co.Never mind the project to turn the island of iles a Vache into an Eco tourist destination is currently being presented to countries like China, Qatar for funding.
Written by: rokete, 17 Mar 2013 4:35 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
What a waste, jobs and food is what they need !!
Written by: RoyStone, 17 Mar 2013 5:08 PM
From: Australia
anthonyC,
Hitler also loved the Catholic Church (and it loved him too) so does that make all Catholics Nazis?
Perhaps give them all guns and ammo and they can wipe each other out? Good for the DR and good for the NRA (the thinly-veiled front for the US guns and ammo industry).
Still waiting for you tell us the wonderful product Duminicans couldn't get before and now you are supplying.
Written by: Danilo, 17 Mar 2013 5:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
anthony,
If you think most of these funds will actually make it to where it's needed you are an idiot. Barely any jobs will be created as a result of these funds.
Written by: anthonyC, 17 Mar 2013 7:03 PM
From: United States
Danilo,
Did you even read my original post?
Sean Penn is a A-hole of the biggest order.
I would not ship one single dime to Haiti in aid.
Just a ship load of Saws, Hammers and Nails. The Brits landed in what is now the USA with pretty much the same thing and look how that ended up.
Written by: DomRat, 17 Mar 2013 8:20 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Fore, ah the game of golf, lots of caddies available for employment once they get the 18 holes cleared up. I would think the expense might take the major part of what Sean is getting ponied up. Any help from the bwana's relief agencies to assist in getting this golf course up and running. That is the point isn't it.
Written by: rokete, 18 Mar 2013 12:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
RoyStone said:
"What they need more than anything are their tubes tied and vasectomies."
Roy I finally agree with you on something 100%.
Tied tubes and vasectomies for Haitians.
They should stop producing children they cannot support and feed.
The USA should give at least 1 million visa for permanent residency,
for Haitian affected by the earthquake.
Also, 1 million visas with permanent residency to Haitians to go to Canada.
That would really help Haitians.
Is the USA and Canada going to do that ???
Never, they want to send Haitians to us. Don't they ???
Just saying !!!
Written by: DomRat, 18 Mar 2013 8:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Hopefully a lot of Dominicans and the rest of the 'developing' (should be - self replicating) world will follow suit.. Population here in D.R. has doubled in last 30 years but land mass not a whit,. We had better start our 'black bean' pay back for the black gold that we are being provided with or we will resemble Haiti much more than most folks would believe.
Written by: RoyStone, 18 Mar 2013 8:37 PM
From: Australia
rokete,
Feral Haitian peasants are not the only ones breeding like rabbits, are they?
Written by: Lautaro, 18 Mar 2013 9:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
RoyStone says: "Feral Haitian peasants are not the only ones breeding like rabbits, are they?"
The difference, pal, is in numbers. The majority of the Haitian population still lives in the countryside, which makes them "feral peasants" by default, while the majority of our population lives in the urban centers, mainly Santo Domingo, Santiago and La Romana, which means in other words, that there are campos that barely have people living in them, specially on our impoverished southwest. Plus, even the lefty club called the UN recognizes that the DR birthrates are just above the replacement level, while the Haitian ones still surpass these by a mile, despite the heavy mortality rates at birth and shorter life expectancy in general.
Written by: TinyTim, 18 Mar 2013 9:24 PM
From: United States
Written by: Lautaro, 18 Mar 2013 9:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
RoyStone says: "Feral Haitian peasants are not the only ones breeding like rabbits, are they?"
The difference, pal, is in numbers. The majority of the Haitian population still lives in the countryside, which makes them "feral peasant" by default, while the majority of our population lives in the urban centers (mainly Santo Domingo, Santiago and La Romana). Plus, even the lefty club called the UN recognizes that the DR birthrates are just above the replacement level, while the Haitian ones still surpass these by a mile, despite the heavy mortality rates at birth and shorter life expectancies.
-------Lautaro, believe me when I tell you this, what you just told Roystone went over his head.
The man sounds so miserable.
To think he has to live among those he despise.
What a great payback.
Written by: Lautaro, 18 Mar 2013 9:28 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Aye, Tim, but worse than him is his local concubine, if he's as openly spiteful about this country in her presence as he is on this site. God only knows I wouldn't allow a foreign significant other to be so disdainful of my land of birth in from of me without receiving so much as murmur on my part, if I feel patient enough to suffer the condescension in the first place.
Written by: rokete, 18 Mar 2013 9:31 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
RoyStone
Yes Roy, the Australian population is finally increasing,
I understand women there are becoming quite promiscuous.
LOL
Written by: TinyTim, 18 Mar 2013 9:38 PM
From: United States
Written by: Lautaro, 18 Mar 2013 9:28 PM
Aye, Tim, but worse than him is his local concubine, if he's as openly spiteful about this country in her presence as he is on this site. God only knows I wouldn't allow a foreign significant other to be so disdainful of my land of birth in from of me without receiving so much as murmur on my part, if I feel patient enough to suffer the condescension in the first place.
---------LOL.
Lautato, guys like Roystone can't hold it in.
She knows how he feels about us and the DR.
Don't fault her.
After all, she is using the "gringo" to advance in life.
What is it that they say about desperation?.
Something about people doing anything in their power to leave their miserable lives in the past.
Yes, even if they have to put up with a miserable person like Roystone.
Written by: RoyStone, 19 Mar 2013 2:10 AM
From: Australia
"Public Health minister Bautista Rojas on Monday called teenage pregnancy Dominican Republic’s worst epidemic"
dominicantoday.com/dr/poverty/2012/6/11/43974/Health-chief-calls-teenage-pregnancy-the-countrys-worst-epidemic
Duminican girls get pregnant as an excuse to drop out of school
iadb.org/en/news/webstories/2011-12-05/teenage-pregnancy-in-latin-america-and-the-caribbean,9721.html
Written by: RoyStone, 19 Mar 2013 2:21 AM
From: Australia
Santo Domingo 3.8 million
Santiago 1.3 million
La Romana 0.2 million
Sub Total 5.3 million
Dominican Republic 9.5 million
Hence 4.2 million live outside these 3 cities
In my own limited observation, it seems the majority of these unwanted pregnancies are outside of the main cities.
Written by: RoyStone, 19 Mar 2013 2:27 AM
From: Australia
TinyTim,
What does it say about your country if women are so desperate to leave, (despite being very attractive, having qualifications to practice medicine and being bi-lingual) that they will endure a "miserable gringo" to leave?
Written by: Lautaro, 19 Mar 2013 6:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
RoyStone says: "In my own limited observation, it seems the majority of these unwanted pregnancies are outside of the main cities."
In my own limited observation, my point continues to stand, Shackle Dragger. Didn't they teach you how to count in Skippyland?
Written by: TinyTim, 19 Mar 2013 12:17 PM
From: United States
Written by: RoyStone, 19 Mar 2013 2:27 AM
From: Australia
TinyTim,
What does it say about your country if women are so desperate to leave, (despite being very attractive, having qualifications to practice medicine and being bi-lingual) that they will endure a "miserable gringo" to leave?
------Are you asking me that question with a straight face?.
If you don't know the answer to that question you are more naive than I thought.
Why do you think most of them end up leaving their "gringo" after they get legal status?.
Then they go back to the DR to enjoy a Dominican's Salami.
Attractive according to whom?.
Let me guess, she studied/is studying medicine (or finished/is finishing her studies) on your dime, correct?.
Don't answer that. We know.
Like I said, desperation makes people do anything to advance in life.
Even selling their souls to the devil.
Or a foreigner. LOL.
From: United States, Omnipresence
Somehow...I knew the fecal salami thing would emerge....DRAT!
waste of money.
Sean Penn is just doing the biding of George Soros and his Fascist program.
Everytime you give something to the people of Haiti you are perpetuating the growth of the slave class.
Wanna help the Haitians? Dump a ship load of Hammers, Nails and Saws and tell them that is all they are going to get. See ya in 5 years.
They should have donated house building material to Haiti and allow the Haitians to build their own residences. They are expert builders; just take a look at what they do around the DR. Bags of cement, plywood, nails, 2 x 4's, galvanize sheets, and other tools and the Haitians would no longer be living in tents.
Set up some sweatshops to build exportable goods and the houses will come later.
Are all the house need in DR already built? in France? In Germany? In The USA?
Do construction workers eat? Do they get sick or hurt? do they wear clothes? Don't they need transportation?
Won't those workers want homes? Won't those who are successful want bigger and or better homes?
Won't all those workers be having sex and producing an new crop of people who need homes?
Construction is one of the major economic drivers in any economy.
Do you even stop to think for even a second before you post your left wing/anti-business swill?
Who will pay the rent for these houses if most wont have jobs?
source: lambifund.org/WFLCampaign.shtml
asks
How about requiring vasectomies in order to qualify for a house?"
Very sensible suggestion, however if Haitian men are anything like Duminican men, they would be too afraid of losing their delicate libidos, and consider babies are the mothers' responsibility anyway.
I can now see all those lining up to get their share of the green pie.
"How about requiring vasectomies in order to qualify for a house?"
Hitler would have loved you. And there are still people who don't realize that Fascism is a left wing political system.
Anyway.....
Like most liberals you fail to grasp even the most basic tenets of market economics. I am done with you until you actually educate yourself.
What a waste, jobs and food is what they need !!
Hitler also loved the Catholic Church (and it loved him too) so does that make all Catholics Nazis?
Perhaps give them all guns and ammo and they can wipe each other out? Good for the DR and good for the NRA (the thinly-veiled front for the US guns and ammo industry).
Still waiting for you tell us the wonderful product Duminicans couldn't get before and now you are supplying.
If you think most of these funds will actually make it to where it's needed you are an idiot. Barely any jobs will be created as a result of these funds.
Danilo,
Did you even read my original post?
Sean Penn is a A-hole of the biggest order.
I would not ship one single dime to Haiti in aid.
Just a ship load of Saws, Hammers and Nails. The Brits landed in what is now the USA with pretty much the same thing and look how that ended up.
RoyStone said:
"What they need more than anything are their tubes tied and vasectomies."
Roy I finally agree with you on something 100%.
Tied tubes and vasectomies for Haitians.
They should stop producing children they cannot support and feed.
The USA should give at least 1 million visa for permanent residency,
for Haitian affected by the earthquake.
Also, 1 million visas with permanent residency to Haitians to go to Canada.
That would really help Haitians.
Is the USA and Canada going to do that ???
Never, they want to send Haitians to us. Don't they ???
Just saying !!!
Feral Haitian peasants are not the only ones breeding like rabbits, are they?
The difference, pal, is in numbers. The majority of the Haitian population still lives in the countryside, which makes them "feral peasants" by default, while the majority of our population lives in the urban centers, mainly Santo Domingo, Santiago and La Romana, which means in other words, that there are campos that barely have people living in them, specially on our impoverished southwest. Plus, even the lefty club called the UN recognizes that the DR birthrates are just above the replacement level, while the Haitian ones still surpass these by a mile, despite the heavy mortality rates at birth and shorter life expectancy in general.
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
RoyStone says: "Feral Haitian peasants are not the only ones breeding like rabbits, are they?"
The difference, pal, is in numbers. The majority of the Haitian population still lives in the countryside, which makes them "feral peasant" by default, while the majority of our population lives in the urban centers (mainly Santo Domingo, Santiago and La Romana). Plus, even the lefty club called the UN recognizes that the DR birthrates are just above the replacement level, while the Haitian ones still surpass these by a mile, despite the heavy mortality rates at birth and shorter life expectancies.
-------Lautaro, believe me when I tell you this, what you just told Roystone went over his head.
The man sounds so miserable.
To think he has to live among those he despise.
What a great payback.
RoyStone
Yes Roy, the Australian population is finally increasing,
I understand women there are becoming quite promiscuous.
LOL
Aye, Tim, but worse than him is his local concubine, if he's as openly spiteful about this country in her presence as he is on this site. God only knows I wouldn't allow a foreign significant other to be so disdainful of my land of birth in from of me without receiving so much as murmur on my part, if I feel patient enough to suffer the condescension in the first place.
---------LOL.
Lautato, guys like Roystone can't hold it in.
She knows how he feels about us and the DR.
Don't fault her.
After all, she is using the "gringo" to advance in life.
What is it that they say about desperation?.
Something about people doing anything in their power to leave their miserable lives in the past.
Yes, even if they have to put up with a miserable person like Roystone.
dominicantoday.com/dr/poverty/2012/6/11/43974/Health-chief-calls-teenage-pregnancy-the-countrys-worst-epidemic
Duminican girls get pregnant as an excuse to drop out of school
iadb.org/en/news/webstories/2011-12-05/teenage-pregnancy-in-latin-america-and-the-caribbean,9721.html
Santiago 1.3 million
La Romana 0.2 million
Sub Total 5.3 million
Dominican Republic 9.5 million
Hence 4.2 million live outside these 3 cities
In my own limited observation, it seems the majority of these unwanted pregnancies are outside of the main cities.
What does it say about your country if women are so desperate to leave, (despite being very attractive, having qualifications to practice medicine and being bi-lingual) that they will endure a "miserable gringo" to leave?
In my own limited observation, my point continues to stand, Shackle Dragger. Didn't they teach you how to count in Skippyland?
From: Australia
TinyTim,
What does it say about your country if women are so desperate to leave, (despite being very attractive, having qualifications to practice medicine and being bi-lingual) that they will endure a "miserable gringo" to leave?
------Are you asking me that question with a straight face?.
If you don't know the answer to that question you are more naive than I thought.
Why do you think most of them end up leaving their "gringo" after they get legal status?.
Then they go back to the DR to enjoy a Dominican's Salami.
Attractive according to whom?.
Let me guess, she studied/is studying medicine (or finished/is finishing her studies) on your dime, correct?.
Don't answer that. We know.
Like I said, desperation makes people do anything to advance in life.
Even selling their souls to the devil.
Or a foreigner. LOL.