Santo Domingo.- United States Homeland Security Dept. has agreed to use unmanned planes "drones” to patrol the Mona Pass, as a way to fight the traffic of drugs and weapons from cyberspace, Puerto Rico’s elnuevodia.com reports Monday.
One of those planes, capable of prolonged flight at varying heights, may been temporarily assigned to patrols between the airport at the former Ramey Air Force Base Aguadilla, Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic, the outlet said.
“The initiative which has been in Homeland’s plans since 2007 confirms the push to escalate the war on drug trafficking in the Caribbean area using satellite technology available in the U.S. for military and national security purposes along the border with Mexico,” it said.
It adds that the technology used in the drones, nine of which are part of the Department’s Border Patrol squadron, is so precise that photos taken from an altitude of 60,000 feet can spot an object the size of a milk carton.
It stresses that the Mona Pass is also a key route for the trafficking of undocumented persons.
Written by: josean, 25 Jun 2012 12:00 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
The Government Narcos are shaking in their Purple Boots!
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
"The Government Narcos are shaking in their Purple Boots!"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, you're killing me Narco- Purple Clown, that was a good one.
Written by: josean, 25 Jun 2012 12:48 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
My faithful fan!
From: Dominican Republic, NEVER FORGOTTEN, NEVER FORSAKEN!
I have an idea, let's put one of these over the Dominican border to beam everything that moves!
From: United States
@Dont be silent...
I bet that secretly, .. everything is purple in Jopseano house..
Like a Leonel memorabilia!
He is such paranoid and delusional that things like that really wouldn't surprise me..!
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
the problem with these drones is that they sometimes target innocent people and I am not sure that I like this idea very much . and i would hate them to be overlooking the DR ,,they have much better work to do on the Mexican border
From: Dominican Republic, I dislike all politicians and their afiliated parties... "I simply say it AS IT IS!!"
The same way they fly these over DR/PR borders. It must be done between DR/Haiti one.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!
HYPOCRITES!!
Written by: Botemon, 25 Jun 2012 2:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic, La Isabella
Those who give up Liberty for Security have neither.
Written by: Vivacuba, 25 Jun 2012 2:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Those who give up Liberty for Security have neither. *$*$& america. Shoot the mofo down.
From: Iceland, Haitians out of DR.
Josean dreams purple all nigh long, I bet he also cums the same color in his purple wet dreams!
Written by: Atabey, 25 Jun 2012 5:25 PM
From: United States, NYC
"is so precise that photos taken from an altitude of 60,000 feet can spot an object the size of a milk carton."
With the costs of these systems dropping as the technology advances, we'll be seeing even more high tech used in this arena. So stay tuned, it's going to get far tougher for people to try and pass goods and services without being detected. At some point these systems will fly out of DR too and then out of Haiti as well. The Caribbean Basin will get very tough for traffickers of all kind.
From: United States
Sounds good as long as a bunch of corrupt Dominican officials have nothing to do with it it could help. Anytime you add the corruption factor nothing will work.
Written by: Atabey, 25 Jun 2012 7:22 PM
From: United States, NYC
Remember the USA wanted to use the Isla Saona or some other little island in the Southeast? Well at some point these birds will be flying out of DR under US control. The days of the Cowboys are fast approaching their end days.
Perhaps governments will turn to legalization as in Uruguay and make billions in the process, while cutting criminal activity. Now there's a thought. De-criminalize pot for adults. Have nationals farm the pot and tax it. Less money in the underground economy and more used for infrastructure and education, etc.
From: United States
They'll deploy drones as soon as they found out that Haitians are now aiming for Puerto Rico.
Written by: devin11, 26 Jun 2012 3:34 AM
From: United States, The Greatest City
@Ricardolito,
These drones will not be armed with missiles, so even if they target an "innocent" person, the worst thing that can happen is that their picture will be taken. When suspected criminal activity is detected by the drones, a chain of alerts and commands will be sent to interdicting forces to investigate further, most always at sea. Anything can be justified but I would rather error on the side that's not committing the illegal activities, such as drug and human trafficking.
Written by: Atabey, 26 Jun 2012 11:05 AM
From: United States, NYC
Big Brother is on the case. We surrender some liberty in order to not live in the jungle. When cash is no longer used as the medium of exchange, watch how more difficult it will be to transact in goods and services. Tighter controls on the vey.
And I agree Devin11, no arming needed at this point. Better watch out what you do on top of the deck as the pictures might be used against you. LOL!
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
I'm buying stock in drone mfg. companies!
Written by: Vivacuba, 26 Jun 2012 7:50 PM
From: Dominican Republic
target practice just ask Iran
From: United States, NJ
These Drones could be armed with missiles if so desired ,so as not to waste man power or fuel
and are by far more accurate than humans. Its purpose is to detect the traffic from So America via
the caribbean to USA.The USA does not need special permits from DR or any Caribbean nation
to fly it as SPY planes,nor does any Caribbean nation have SAM (surface to air missiles)capabilty
to intercept them, except the Island of Cuba.
I would say they were passed due to reinforce their borders and remember all the illegal narcos in
Mexico supply themselves from So America, furthernore the illicit traffic feeds itself from poor
nations out of desperation such as Haiti and DR.
From: Dominican Republic
The problem with these drones is that they only rely of cameras. They do not have no surface radar. In the open sea they could easily miss the boats that are not in their pre-programed routes. The best alternative, are US Coast Guard cutters with surface radar.
Written by: josean, 28 Jun 2012 8:43 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
"The problem with these drones is that they only rely of cameras. "
Do you really believe that the US has really revealed to the world the actual technological capabilities of the drones and that the ones seen by the general public are the ones they in fact use?
From: United States, NJ
Radars could be installed or else if they don't have radars how are they going to detect the enemy
or less navegate and shoot the enemy in close combat ? The idea is to get rid of maned vehicle
as well and save lives at the least cost. A US Coast Guard Cutter has more of intrution than a spy
Drone and more fuel expense. Don't forget the radars could only detect up to the horizon unless it
is up on a tower,while the Drone would be up 60,000 ft above sea level and a 360 degrees radius
and have more range working with the GPS .
From: Dominican Republic
@Josean,
True. Maybe the RQ-4 Global Hawk (not the one on the picture) could be fitted with a strong enough radar, but not the MQ-9 Reaper (possibly the one on the picture) it is too small.
From: Dominican Republic
@MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier,
Drones are not sophisticated enough to shot down other aircraft. The country of Georgia learn that lesson quick with its conflict with Russia in 2008. Now the drones like the predator, will need to flight below the clouds (maybe 6,000ft) if they want to fire a missile. They need to paint a target for the missile with a laser designator. The lower the drones fly, if the are equipped with radar, the smaller the area they will be able to track. The radar emissions are 360, but radars only listen to a small arc at the time (direction).
:)
From: United States, NJ
Arcangel96"
Regardless the type used the principle is the same if they are going to be fitted with missiles they
can also be fitted with powerfull enogh radar,
From: United States, NJ
@Arcangel96:
That was in 2008 now it is 2012 In four years the US arsenal has changed lots,specially when
it comes to homeland security. You are right ,the average radars have 90 degrees scope
but we are talking about a Spy Drone that has more suffisticated radars & navigation instruments
From: Dominican Republic
@MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier,
"Regardless the type used the principle is the same if they are going to be fitted with missiles they
can also be fitted with powerfull enogh radar"
I guess, but the MQ-1 Predator is too small for a radar. "Previously, Predators were equipped with a synthetic aperture radar for looking through smoke, clouds or haze, but lack of use validated its removal to reduce weight and conserve fuel."
Written by: josean, 29 Jun 2012 9:35 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016
Arcangel96,
It would be wise to heed Ben Franklin's admonition:
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see”!
From: United States, NJ
@Arcangel96:
Radio waves and specially uhf waves as used in radar equipment penetrate any cloud. The
opposite for the sencitive cameras. You are talking about land base radars weight wise. Now
days these types of radars in question don't weight any more than a pc. I know i was in the signal
corps in the US army graduated from Ft Mommouth Signal School.
From: United States, NJ
Josean:
That was a good statement (paradox) "anegdota"above.In reference to our discussion. What he
sees in MILITARY channel I also see, but almost all is classify. They would be stupid if they gave
away their secrets after all the money invested in national defence.
Written by: Vivacuba, 29 Jun 2012 11:39 AM
From: Dominican Republic
DR, the 54th state of USA
From: Dominican Republic
@MrThelmoAlmeydaRancier,
"Radio waves and specially uhf waves as used in radar equipment penetrate any cloud." I agree with you. I never said they didn't.
Now, you are correct. I watch the Military channel, and Discovery channel and such and my family hates it.
But going back to our conversation, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the issue with aircraft with radars, in addition to the weight, it is also the output power. The more power you can output, the longer the range of the radar. On small drones this could be an issue don't you think? Land base and sea base radars are big, because they are design to output a lot of power.
From: United States, NJ
in reference to the out put power they are so design to get it from the sun,
true the land and sea radars are not solar powered energy, are bulky as
opposed to the spy drones where every thing is small and requires less
power,all solid state , compact. the altitude plays a major roll on the down
to the earth range spherica in shape 360 degrees ,the wings & allerones are
their solar pannels .
you are correct we have lots in common; we both like ,sc,lc,mc,iternational
news specially non commercial from spain (television espanola)dr, pr,all so
american news direct,cnn spanish. i don't like the local spanish tv .,they are
loaded with commercial and nonsence & soap operas . the rest of the time
i spend it here with you guys trying to find out how we stand progressively.
but you are correct my wife as well hates it specially when i play classical
music she calls it church music.
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The Government Narcos are shaking in their Purple Boots!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, you're killing me Narco- Purple Clown, that was a good one.
My faithful fan!
@Dont be silent...
I bet that secretly, .. everything is purple in Jopseano house..
Like a Leonel memorabilia!
He is such paranoid and delusional that things like that really wouldn't surprise me..!
What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!
HYPOCRITES!!
"is so precise that photos taken from an altitude of 60,000 feet can spot an object the size of a milk carton."
With the costs of these systems dropping as the technology advances, we'll be seeing even more high tech used in this arena. So stay tuned, it's going to get far tougher for people to try and pass goods and services without being detected. At some point these systems will fly out of DR too and then out of Haiti as well. The Caribbean Basin will get very tough for traffickers of all kind.
Remember the USA wanted to use the Isla Saona or some other little island in the Southeast? Well at some point these birds will be flying out of DR under US control. The days of the Cowboys are fast approaching their end days.
Perhaps governments will turn to legalization as in Uruguay and make billions in the process, while cutting criminal activity. Now there's a thought. De-criminalize pot for adults. Have nationals farm the pot and tax it. Less money in the underground economy and more used for infrastructure and education, etc.
They'll deploy drones as soon as they found out that Haitians are now aiming for Puerto Rico.
These drones will not be armed with missiles, so even if they target an "innocent" person, the worst thing that can happen is that their picture will be taken. When suspected criminal activity is detected by the drones, a chain of alerts and commands will be sent to interdicting forces to investigate further, most always at sea. Anything can be justified but I would rather error on the side that's not committing the illegal activities, such as drug and human trafficking.
Big Brother is on the case. We surrender some liberty in order to not live in the jungle. When cash is no longer used as the medium of exchange, watch how more difficult it will be to transact in goods and services. Tighter controls on the vey.
And I agree Devin11, no arming needed at this point. Better watch out what you do on top of the deck as the pictures might be used against you. LOL!
and are by far more accurate than humans. Its purpose is to detect the traffic from So America via
the caribbean to USA.The USA does not need special permits from DR or any Caribbean nation
to fly it as SPY planes,nor does any Caribbean nation have SAM (surface to air missiles)capabilty
to intercept them, except the Island of Cuba.
I would say they were passed due to reinforce their borders and remember all the illegal narcos in
Mexico supply themselves from So America, furthernore the illicit traffic feeds itself from poor
nations out of desperation such as Haiti and DR.
"The problem with these drones is that they only rely of cameras. "
Do you really believe that the US has really revealed to the world the actual technological capabilities of the drones and that the ones seen by the general public are the ones they in fact use?
or less navegate and shoot the enemy in close combat ? The idea is to get rid of maned vehicle
as well and save lives at the least cost. A US Coast Guard Cutter has more of intrution than a spy
Drone and more fuel expense. Don't forget the radars could only detect up to the horizon unless it
is up on a tower,while the Drone would be up 60,000 ft above sea level and a 360 degrees radius
and have more range working with the GPS .
True. Maybe the RQ-4 Global Hawk (not the one on the picture) could be fitted with a strong enough radar, but not the MQ-9 Reaper (possibly the one on the picture) it is too small.
Drones are not sophisticated enough to shot down other aircraft. The country of Georgia learn that lesson quick with its conflict with Russia in 2008. Now the drones like the predator, will need to flight below the clouds (maybe 6,000ft) if they want to fire a missile. They need to paint a target for the missile with a laser designator. The lower the drones fly, if the are equipped with radar, the smaller the area they will be able to track. The radar emissions are 360, but radars only listen to a small arc at the time (direction).
:)
Regardless the type used the principle is the same if they are going to be fitted with missiles they
can also be fitted with powerfull enogh radar,
That was in 2008 now it is 2012 In four years the US arsenal has changed lots,specially when
it comes to homeland security. You are right ,the average radars have 90 degrees scope
but we are talking about a Spy Drone that has more suffisticated radars & navigation instruments
"Regardless the type used the principle is the same if they are going to be fitted with missiles they
can also be fitted with powerfull enogh radar"
I guess, but the MQ-1 Predator is too small for a radar. "Previously, Predators were equipped with a synthetic aperture radar for looking through smoke, clouds or haze, but lack of use validated its removal to reduce weight and conserve fuel."
Arcangel96,
It would be wise to heed Ben Franklin's admonition:
“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see”!
Radio waves and specially uhf waves as used in radar equipment penetrate any cloud. The
opposite for the sencitive cameras. You are talking about land base radars weight wise. Now
days these types of radars in question don't weight any more than a pc. I know i was in the signal
corps in the US army graduated from Ft Mommouth Signal School.
That was a good statement (paradox) "anegdota"above.In reference to our discussion. What he
sees in MILITARY channel I also see, but almost all is classify. They would be stupid if they gave
away their secrets after all the money invested in national defence.
"Radio waves and specially uhf waves as used in radar equipment penetrate any cloud." I agree with you. I never said they didn't.
Now, you are correct. I watch the Military channel, and Discovery channel and such and my family hates it.
But going back to our conversation, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the issue with aircraft with radars, in addition to the weight, it is also the output power. The more power you can output, the longer the range of the radar. On small drones this could be an issue don't you think? Land base and sea base radars are big, because they are design to output a lot of power.
true the land and sea radars are not solar powered energy, are bulky as
opposed to the spy drones where every thing is small and requires less
power,all solid state , compact. the altitude plays a major roll on the down
to the earth range spherica in shape 360 degrees ,the wings & allerones are
their solar pannels .
you are correct we have lots in common; we both like ,sc,lc,mc,iternational
news specially non commercial from spain (television espanola)dr, pr,all so
american news direct,cnn spanish. i don't like the local spanish tv .,they are
loaded with commercial and nonsence & soap operas . the rest of the time
i spend it here with you guys trying to find out how we stand progressively.
but you are correct my wife as well hates it specially when i play classical
music she calls it church music.