Looks like a typical traffic in the DR where most simply cut you off, go through red lights / stop signs and speed when ever possible.

Most of the lights do not work and the power outages do not help. Don't blame the driver, blame the system.

So, the construction of them Overpasses, tunnels and Metro didn't do anything to alleviate traffic in the greater SDQ area....Go FiGga!!

They are better off rustling cattle, its easier...

Normally when I drive in the U.S or the DR and encounter the same situation I slow down or stop depending on traffic conditions and when I cross I do so with caution. The idea being trying to avoid in many cases myself the target.

I'll blame both....weather, road conditions, man made decisions a driver while driving makes at approx. 3-5 decisions while driving at any one time.

The driver while driving is in control.

"Speaking in the presence of Korea ambassador Park Dong-sil, AMET director Jose Sanz Jiminian said the loan would be payable in 40 years at an interest rate of 0.02%."


Excellent terms. Just hope that it's well used.

A prime reason for expanding the metro and creating more bus routes.
Synchronizing traffic lights and ticketing red-light violators, will certainly alleviate this chaos!

RobertJose ,,yes all the tunnels and overpasses are great if you are going along Kennedy or 27 de febrero but if you are tring to go in the other direction .north to south and south to north , it is a disaster ,,,Churchill and Lincoln and Tiradentes are impossible.
I do not know if the Metro or a sky train is the answer but we need better transport than taxis publicos

says RonEvane

Synchronizing traffic lights and ticketing red-light violators, will certainly alleviate this chaos!

there is a street in Brooklyn called Linden Boulevard, which is one of the longest streets in the city. if you get on at Cross Bay, and you maintain a speed below the speed limit, you can catch all the green lights, for miles. if you exceed the limits, you will defeat the synchronization, and end up going slower. the issue is not the system. it is the DRIVER. the driving here is too indisciplined. everyone wants to be in front of everyone else, so they cut in front, switch lanes frequently, and cause chaotic traffic breakdowns. besides, too many people enter the main artery from side streets , slowing the flows. until driving habits are addressed, there is no hope for alleviating breakdown. it is not hard to defeat the red light runners. unmarked police motorcycles, with a walkie talkie to radio ahead to another motorcycle the description of someone who ran a light.

impound the vehicle, until the fine is paid. a stiff jolt, such as 2000 pesos, will go a long way to curing bad habits.

"if you are tring to go in the other direction .north to south and south to north , it is a disaster"

I thought the USELESS METRO ran Noth to South, Mama Tingo to La Feria?

They can buy all the gadgets and gizmos they want. However, the Dominican driving public will not change its culture of driving chaos until the "police" start enforcing the laws.

"if you exceed the limits, you will defeat the synchronization, and end up going slower. the issue is not the system. it is the DRIVER. the driving here is too indisciplined."

As it is with most other issues concerning attempts to moderate/modernize the running of our nation,
most of us, foreign and nationals, are likely in agreement concerning the futility in trying to improve the present attitudes and ass-backward behaviour of life in the DR.
We're total jackasses in most everything we do. Nothing will change until our new generation has had a chance to spend a good part of their young lives in school learning what it is to be civilized by changing our beastly culture and the "me-first", mentality.
Until then, heavy-handed methods (jailing, impounding, stiff fines), will be the solution....maybe.

"until our new generation has had a chance to spend a good part of their young lives in school learning"

What a Novel Idea, EDUCATION FIRST!

O.K. so the millions of dollars spent on the metro and all the new expressways don't alleviate the traffic? Hummm. So now we are talking about borrowing millions to install traffic lights? Really? Why can't the Dominican government request a loan to build homes or to pay for schooling? Mr. Fernandez is relaying too much on foreign loans for cosmetic changes. The D.R. will become even a greater slave to others due to all the loans. I feel very bad about the future of all Dominicans. Changes that could have been done slowly over the years without borrowing money are now trying to be "qicked-fixed" with giant loans. That's very sad, and it is very unsettling.

36 millions should be spent on drivers educational training program , to educate the morons driving . You wanna counter the problem kill the montoconcho permanently.

Dreadlocks: Seems kind of tough to take someone's vehicle, then what? Kids to school? Go to work? Chilsd gets sick? I think that this measure is backed by people who thinks that only rich people have vehicles and can afford a 2K pesos ticket, I don't agree. Suppose cops pull you over without reason? and tell you, you pay me a thousand and I let you go or get car impounded and pay two thousand. Corruption again. Break down of the system as quickly as it started.

hellborn25: Motoconchos exist because there's a need for cheap transportation, they provide a service that is very valuable to many thousands if not millions of Dominicans. Motoconchos earn a honest living from conchiando and more millions are served with a cheap service. One can't get rid of something if there's nothing better to replace it. Replace motoconchos with cars? That's not a solution either. There's no motoconchos here in the US and there's traffic problems too.

Written by: josean, 31 Jul 2012 12:59 PM
From: United States, Dedicating 4 more years to fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia

"if you are tring to go in the other direction .north to south and south to north , it is a disaster"

I thought the USELESS METRO ran Noth to South, Mama Tingo to La Feria?"



To judge a system that's still only 1/6th built and operational is well.............. Joseanian or asinine.


Wait for the system to be built or close to its full operational strength and then judge its merits.

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ChicharronyPresidente,

Some good points. Until the massive transportation alternative and relatively cheap Metro with Bus link system is fully built, motoconchos will continue to serve many Dominicans.

Motoconchos are another big problem they swerve in and out of traffic.

Josean ,,because you actually know very little about Santo Domingo , you would not know that at present the lines do not go close to the streets I mentioned Churchill and Lincoln and Tiradentes which are in the Naco Piantini area ..the existing line services the people coming into town from the Villa Mella area and then goes along maximo Gomez ,

Traffic and Tracking big Korean Investment

"Written by: Ricardolito, 31 Jul 2012 10:28 PM

From: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo

Josean ,,because you actually know very little about Santo Domingo"


Don't be a revisionist by adding a qualifier after the fact, now that you were caught with your PURPLE Panties exposed.

You said NORTH SOUTH AND SOUTH NORTH!

But you’re like your God like Lie-onel Fernandez who spits in the Dominican Peoples face and then says it’s Raining!

says ChicharronyPresidente

I think that this measure is backed by people who thinks that only rich people have vehicles and can afford a 2K pesos ticket, I don't agree.

you do not need to be ¨able to afford a 2k ticket¨. it is not mandatory. you can easily avoid it by obeying the rules of society. surely, there are going to be instances when a motorist is unjustly accused by a traffic cop, but that does not mean that the idea is not appropriate. if we were to judge the merits of an initiative by its susceptibility to corruption, then we would all go home, close the doors, and never go out in public, ever again. drastic diseases call for drastic medicine. when you are forced to pay a stiff fine before you can get back behind the wheel of your own car, maybe, just maybe, you might think twice about running the next light, and endangering life and limb.

but u have the choo choo train.
all aboard leos choo choo train.
hey! listen guys.
the gringos are very stupid the way they drive their cars
dominicans are the best in the world
we like to drive very fast, we try try and park our cars going in with the front of the car into a small space forget the stupid gringos they pull up to the 1st car and try and back into a spot never have i seen any thing so stupid, the gringos pass on the left side side we do it correct by passing on the right side of other car most gringos stop at red lights and stop signs we do it right way f.....k the red light and stop sign they are very stupid,
but the best is yet to come what i really respect is the moto drivers when they come out of a side street into a busy thoughway they dont stop they just make a right turn without stopping or looking.
see we are the best when it comes to driving think the pres. should build more super highways for us.

was on the florida turnpike the other day
they had this very stupid sign it said
no trucks in the left lane.
so stupid. they are the gringos
saw other signs like if u litter u can get a fine of up to $1,000 dollars.
now thats really dumb if i want to throw my trash into the streets that should be my right if i want to piss in the street that is also my right
so u can see we have more rights in the dr then the dumb gringos have in the states.

the gringos have nothing but jealousy for the dominicans

our super heroes are home-made drug dealers.

worlds
dumbest
dumber then most
lives full of dumbness
and we have the choo choo train and the blue mall.
go blow your horn today in front of the blue mall blow and honk like crazy show the world how smart we are.

The folks on here that constantly criticize the PLD and LF make no sense at all.

Resorting to senseless name calling and frivolous accusations.

written by: ricardolito, 31 jul 2012 10:28 pm

from: dominican republic, vieja santo domingo

josean ,,because you actually know very little about santo domingo"


for what i see on this site most would rather gang up on mr josean then try and really help their country.
why do u and others every day comment about mr joseans comments?
every one has the right to post his own thoughts.
better u do some thing to help fix the insanity that occurs each and every day in the dr.
worry about your white house
the house of deception.
why not go into building technoloically advanced
aircraft, with the well- educated work force u have in the dr?

mr ricky why dont u take a ride on the choo choo train, go to the blue mall and have a drink and relax, u can sit out side on the 4th floor of the food court and listen to all of the horn blowing below,
yes i know its a busy intersecation very busy i know it w

u say u want deeper conversations abou this?
unfortunately i have better things to do today.
oh! yeah u should vist cape town s/f vist the table top.
one of the most beautiful places on this planet { they protech their wild life} not like in the dr where they trash and kill every thing that moves, and treat tourists like "prey"
have a great day in paradise island..

danny, i must admit that most of everything you post makes absolute sense. we live the lives that we do here because of the way we choose to do things. i have seen guys on scooters and motorcycles flying out of an alley, across the sidewalk, and into the main street, without slowing down. it is the responsibility of the people on the sidewalk to protect themselves. be prepared to jump out the way when some lamebrain decides to endanger your life. i just love it when people simply ignore no entry signs, and drive the wrong way down a street, because they are too LAZY to go the right way. then, you get into a wreck with them, they claim it is your fault..no es mi culpa.

Friends,

The lack of respect for eachother and the laws.
The lack of law enforcement other than to seek bribes.
The present situation with the theft of city infrastructure, and
The damage to roads caused by vehicle that should never be on it in the first place.........

It all cumulates in my prediction that this "40 year cheap loan" will not serve to do nothing but enrich some city officials, their friends, and families.

Can you actually see the cops with radar technology here when they can't even tie their boots, or can't spell "honesty". Can you actually see traffic cameras on the poles.... The getho chiocos will be climbing those like they climb the palm trees for the fruits!

Thanks to Korea for recognizing this chaotic traffic issue, but this project is as futile as a fart in the wind!

Try a fart in the "education elevator" instead....+ a match = Maximum bang for your buck!

C.

Written by: Concatchero, 1 Aug 2012 11:55 AM
From: Dominican Republic

Friends,

The lack of respect for eachother and the laws

yes, it is the same lack of respect that animates some people to put their speakers on the sidewalk, and blast the rest of the neighborhood with loud music, at all hours. the people who do this want to hear music. they do not care whether or not you do not, and would prefer a moment of silence. what matters to them is what THEY want. so, their driving manifests those social disorders. they want to be at the front of the line. they want to be the first to go through the light. it is no different than the guy who comes into the colmado, and wants to be served first,even though 10 people were there when he arrived. don´t belive me? buy a ticket for the Caribe Tours bus. watch how many people break the queue, from all sides, the guy at the front can end up getting on last. it is the mindset, and it is reflected in the driving.

Oh I believe you Dread,

I have that happen everytime I wait for change or to get paid at stores, casino, any other lineup! But, i am very good at giving tongue lashings to impatient, impolite, turds to put them back in their place.

C.

"yes, it is the same lack of respect that animates some people to put their speakers on the sidewalk, and blast the rest of the neighborhood with loud music, at all hours."

When we built our home in Vista Hermosa, SD East, we thought it was nice enought and far enought away from the overbearing, impolite, vulgar, unrefined and uncivilized people we had left behind in the Los Minas area.
That is, until the savages moved in next door to us. Now it's nearly impossible to have a day's worth of peace and quiet.
Who wants to buy a nice house?...........cheap.

I'm serious!

hellborn25: Motoconchos exist because there's a need for cheap transportation, they provide a service that is very valuable to many thousands if not millions of Dominicans. Motoconchos earn a honest living from conchiando and more millions are served with a cheap service. One can't get rid of something if there's nothing better to replace it. Replace motoconchos with cars? That's not a solution either. There's no motoconchos here in the US and there's traffic problems too.

motoconchos represents everything that is uneducated , primitive, and outdated . we have to join the 21 first century and get out of that third world country cavemen mentality . why ride on these little motorbikes with some guy who problably does`t have license , who will likely get you killed, why ?? all for the sake of cheap transportation, thats a hell of risk to take!