The russians are coming, the russians are coming!!! What a great movie that was

Tex how is the cleanup coming along ?

Yeah, your're right there's a fleet of Russian Navy ships rushing to the Caribbean Sea at this moment to play war games in Venezuela. On their way back they'll stop at Boca de Yuma, for some Merengue lessons from the natives. They might also buy some Macorix Rum.

The Russians are coming was a hilarious Comedy film of that exciting era the '60's.
However, this Second installment of the Russians are coming is more like a War Movie; It's no joke! Lollygagers like Barney Fyfe, and Gomer Pyle can be duped by these peace time stories, but this is no lollapaloosa, this time it's real.

Of these charter flights, four will be to Punta Cana, of the airline Transaero, with 320-passenger planes and one to Puerto Plata, and the carrier Rossya,

Did they mean airline "Trasero"?

the new awakening middle class of Russia....Lenin is spinning in his mausoleum..... freeze dried as he is

Clean up is getting there, still a few hunderd thousand without power but getting there.

Lenin is smiling at the NEW REPUBLICAN SOCIALIST PARTY!

Socialism marches on:


"House clears $25bn for carmakers "



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/83bfe68c-8a8f-11dd-a76a-0000779fd18c.html

Drugs, prostiutes,extorsion,sexslaves, That is why the russians are coming. the dominican republic will never be the same. leonel +chavez + russia = oil corruption . leonel is a rookie compared to to putin and the boys. leonel will see the oil money in form of "credit" and kiss away any hope of ever being able to control the economy when the oil squeeze tightens around the Island. suitcases of cash will be the flavor of the day. the sharks can smell the blood from the wounded economy all the way to moscow.

well then there is an ocean of blood because we are all tied together all countries ....that is why they call it GLOBALIZATION

well said, Truth. these guys are here for a reason. they know that they can get away with a lot of antics, and buy their way out of a lot of trouble. other islands are too problematic. i am very fearful of what the outcome of the russian invasion might portend for this country in the not too distant future. ain't globalization grand?

let them come over we can use some rupies.

that is exactly what the government is saying! but, as the proverb says "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it". and more!

Josean,

Would it not be a great thing if you called it like it really is- The United States Senate and House of Representatives are Majority controlled by the Democrats so if a bill passes I do not see how it can be a Republican plan and it seems it was drafted by a democrat a David E. Price and it is HR 2638

"The loans were authorized in last year's energy bill but not funded."-MSNBC

"They're not too big to fail," Sen. Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, told CNBC last week. "I don't see [Detroit's woes] as a national problem. I see it as their problem."- Republican party stance on issue, source Newsweek


http://www.usnews.com/blogs/flowc....ine-for-gm-ford-and-chrysler.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1....518082005.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

josean knows nothing sees nothing and like the immortal sgt Shultz says nothing over and over again.....Klink ! get that idiot out of here

Josean,

The vote count was.

Yes;
Dems 254

Repub. 45

No.

Dems 2

Repub. 148

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-491

Seems to me you are a little confused on who the "new socialist movement" really belongs to!!

and take your fearless leader the Dreaded One with you ................Dread aka Belial Lite

dreadlocks,....so let me guess the DR can have a use for usd but for rupies give me a break, what's the different can you please explain? Now i hear carlos morales troncoso saying that the president will be visiting the middle east next month going to qatar, kawait and dubai. is there money also but for this country.

also bad for this country ..sorry..

it is not the rupees i am worried about, it is the guys with the rupees. apparently, there are no russians where you are in Falls Church. i suggest you go live in Brooklyn for a while, in somewhere like Brighton Beach. then you can post again, after you learn a few things about the goings-on there.

Russians, The run of the mill guys are not so bad, but the mafia types-WOW. The Colombians, Sicialians etc. are SCARED of them. They dont break your leggs they break those of your wife, grandparents (both sides) your kids, neighbors etc. then they get seroius. You remenber that standoff in the theater some time back when the military killed all of the kidnappers and half of the hostages just to prove a point! You know my sentiments on this but I would rather deal with Chavez than the Russians

say no more, shoe. anybody who takes this lightly does not understand the world in which they live. i posted this before, but, in summary, i have an acquaintance who beat a russian mobster out of a mere 150.00. the guy threatened to wipe out him and his family if the money was not returned by 10am the next day. these dudes do not play! these guys are into making a point, as your post states.

Josean,

Comments??????

The chefs better get a recipe for Borcsh.

Theses are mean people so they better get it right.

yes Jander, and their dislike for people of color is legendary. it mystifies me why they are moving here in droves, because they are not here to enjoy the country and its culture. can you say AGENDA?

tell us about some of these legends dread..........."and their dislike for people of color is legendary."

Agenda ....the same as the Canadians get warm !

Tex you shut {Igor} josean up with his ignorance....he learning how it works...democracy that is

"GLOBALIZATION" is the new catch phrase for NEW WORLD ORDER!!

"Written by: gouletcolonial, 25 Sep 2008 10:22 AM
From: Canada
Agenda ....the same as the Canadians get warm !"

Warm can be found on any island in the Caribbean.

The same as Canadians.....They want CHEAP!
Cheap Hotels
Cheap Booze
Cheap Food
Cheap................FUN!!!

All I ask is when they post something like that, support it-that is a discussion. I remember when the thing came out about Sarah cutting special need education by 60+% that is all they posted. When the NEA report came out and was posted that she Actually raised it a couple hundred percent they went away. Kind of hard to argue with a fact. I will never be as wealthy as Bill Gates and others, but I am not pi$$ed at them for being so. Good for them. As the old saying goes, build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door.

Anthonyc,

Not as bad as Scotsmen, those guys have 4 foot pockets with 3 foot arms!!!!!!!!!!

Tonyc that was implicit in the post.....CHEAP.....

well, well, well. never thought i would see the day when i agree with anthonyc. little geography lesson there, anthonyc. any country in the tropics has warm climate. if the russians only wanted to get away from the cold, why would they set up shop in Brooklyn, rather than Florida?

how is Brooklyn getting away from the cold..Brighton beach types were the first to come... no dread Cuba and Jamaica and the DR fight it out for the latest group of Drink till you puke tourists lowball all inclusive

Tex that is who the Canadians got the habits from the Scot/English culture......the Dutch are now considered the champions of Europe cheapies

"if the russians only wanted to get away from the cold, why would they set up shop in Brooklyn, rather than Florida?"

Big difference between Tourists and immigrants.

Actually in the Mid 90's the Russian Mob tried to set up shop in South Florida. That attempt did not last long.

Chavez due in Moscow as Russian warships head to Venezuela

Well I am sure the link below is just pissing contest , but I for one grew up during a time when the USSR and the US had their missles pointed at each other and our schools were also designed as fallout shelters.


http://www.monstersandcritics.com....ssian_warships_head_to_Venezuela_

No pissing contest,

I posted this over 2 weeks ago. Read the article and tell me if that is a ship of a Superpower.

http://english.eluniversal.com/20....ian-nuclear-ship_11A1980405.shtml

Here is good article on Russian tourism.
The tourists who came in from the cold
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/27/turkey.russia

Looks like the DR is doing the right thing by marketing to them.

Most popular Russian holiday destinations 2006

Turkey 1.47 million

China 1.3 million

Egypt 902,753

Finland 562,615

Ukraine 562,615

Spain 246,112

Italy 245,821

Germany 225,741

Greece 198,783

United Arab Emirates 173,885

Poland 169,179

Bulgaria 148,266

Thailand 144,799

France 138,625

Czech Republic 136,239

Cyprus 113,149

Tunisia 93,012

Croatia 73,621

Estonia 71,088

Serbia and Montenegro 65,767

Great Britain 60,718

· Source: Russian Union of Travel Industry www.ratanews.ru

so the Agenda is as I said .....they have a few bucks and they want to get drunk and warm ....wow colour me surprised ...who knew

I don't see them as a superpower but more as a distraction at a time when this part of the world needs to focus on the problems at hand.

reading comprehension is a good thing goulet. you should try it sometime. you stated that russians just want to get away from the cold. i said that if that was the case, why would they go to brooklyn? then you ask me how is brooklyn getting away from the cold? wha?????

bernies,

Note: Rupees are Indian Currency

Rubels are Russian.

Written by: texasshoe, 25 Sep 2008 9:35 AM
From: United States, Houston
Josean,

The vote count was.

Yes;
Dems 254

Repub. 45

No.

Dems 2

Repub. 148

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-491

Seems to me you are a little confused on who the "new socialist movement" really belongs to!!


The answer to your question George Bush who signed the bill!

"Written by: texasshoe, 25 Sep 2008 11:22 AM
From: United States, Houston
No pissing contest,

I posted this over 2 weeks ago. Read the article and tell me if that is a ship of a Superpower.

http://english.eluniversal.com/20....clear-ship_11A1980405.shtml"

how much you wanna bet that in a fw days the Russians will announce a change of plans and cancel the trip?

If it does make it who is going to clean up the radiation leaks it spreads all over the Caribbean?

please, anthonyc, do not mention such eventualities. i am familiar with russian products like the Lada, and a camera called the Kalimar, which i had the displeasure of owning. the camera convinced me , once and for all, that the cold war was a hoax.

Dread your grasp of history and people like Sharansky and Solzhenitsyn and the refuseniks is probably minuscule due to the fact you are a commie sympathizer ...you knowing Russian mobsters and all wow are we impressed ....I will be brief unlike you O pompous one .....what is this " reading comprehension is a good thing goulet. you should try it sometime." when Dumbass would have been a surfeit....only morons and imbeciles are impressed with your verbiage. Commiserating with people on somekind of conspiracy of the out siders coming to steal YOUR island is just another example of you brown nosing some Dominicans who do not know any better.like josean...another example of THEM conspiring to falsify and inflate the numbers for their elitist [probably white]masters.for evil purposes........by the way Bill Clinton kicked Obama and the democrats butts to day on TV concerning the demos screwing up the fannie mae deal..... you and Igor your little buddy have to see it

"GLOBALIZATION" is the new catch phrase for NEW WORLD ORDER!!

Globalazition began the first time someone traded salt for beans, when Captian cook brought breadfruit to the old world, when the Incas brought potatos to Colombia. And when Cortez wiped out Montezuema. Been around a lot longer that what you are giving it credit for.

Josean states;

"The answer your question George Bush who signed the bill!"

Did you bother to read the bill? That point for the 25bn is included with government operating budget through March of 2009, no signature on bill, gov. shuts down which may in itself may not be bad. Do yourself a fovor and read the bill.

BTW Clinton signed the Freddy mac, Fanny deregulation bill if you want to go that route.

actually, GC morons, like yourself, are not impressed, because it takes too long to look up words in the dictionary. normally educated people understand. and , i prefer to brown nose them, rather than be like you and tell them to go f themselves.

Who told you I was a Bill Clinton fan, Mr. Simplistic?

normally educated people understand.....like in a school and not in a jail cell

Bubba threw Obama under the bus this morning ....its not nice to call Bubba a racist he has a long memory Barry and you will be sorry for it

Be sure to have stain remover on HAND for your Blue Dress!

actually, GC, if Obama was counting on help from Bill Clinton, then he does not understand the real world. i have a police officer friend who worked security details for the Clintons, and he tells me that the Clintons, all of them, are among the vilest, most arrogant humans alive. Chelsea, lazy little thing that she is, would order him and others to carry her little duffel bag. so, i am not surprised. the guy cannot get over the fact that his wife lost, and hopes Obama loses too. that way, Hillary can get a second go round, after McCain puts the country into receivership!

The Clintons have always been two things and only two things: Clintons first and the best friends Republicans ever had!

dread of course he was counting on the Clintons for support and he does not understand ...he can only understand what the teleprompter says and to vote present when asked to show some courage .....but he was not counting on bubba getting even during the campaign maybe his memoirs but ole Bill Shat on the demos this morning ....you will see the image in McCain adds many times...

I am going to lunch WHIPPING Neo Fascist "New Republican Socialist" rear ends makes me hungry!

i second that, Josean. the little dog and pony shows at the convention are so transparent, it is beyond a joke. by the time McCain and Palin get through screwing up the country, Republicans will be paying Hillary to run for pres. that is why they are doing their level best not to ensure a democratic victory, since Obama would probably run again in four years, given his age.

say hello to nancy pelosi and then wait at the assigned place until your leader Dread summonses you

TEX says "BTW Clinton signed the Freddy mac, Fanny deregulation bill if you want to go that route."..............dread will take you way back down memory lane to try to weasel out of that one

Texasshoe.........I am not saying that it hasn't been around for a long time or implying that it's a bad thing. It was just a statement that alot of people these days use the term 'GLOBALIZATION' rather than saying New World Order which immediately raises hackles and is a bad thing.

two neo commies jerking each other off doesnt it get old ....josean the Dreaded One will discard you like the used "you know what " when he is finished with you

actually, GC, i am busy watching Sarah receiving serpent blessings from her Kenyan Witch Doctor. i find that more human, and more entertaining. as we speak, he is beheading a game rooster from UGANDA, and will mix the feathers with a scorpion from Burkina Fasso. when the spell is cast, Sarah will be able to see not only russia, but also tibet, from her living room.

oink oink

and, GC, how about "cluck, cluck"?

Josean,

By your line of reasoning-Bush signed the bill, his fault so if Clinton signed the Bill-his fault
Clinton signed first bill which caused this mess in 2008 Bush signed an operating bill for the govt, that the dems put 25bn. in for car makers. The mess that is being corrected now in Sept. 2008 is fault of dems from the 90's and the Dems once again could not resist putting 25bn in that bill for car makers. AND if you call this YOU whipping Butt, you are for sure a masochist, come on over I left the vasoline at home but have plenty of sand.

BTW McCain authored 2 bills during 2005-06 that sought to undo what he saw was coming and both times they were defeated by the Dems-Overwhelmingly I might add. Who do yo suppose are the main recipients of campaign contributions from Freddy & Fanny, well what do you know Dems. Dodd and Obama to be exact the same oversight committee that is supposed to watch them is taking from them.

TO ALL YOU LEFT WING PSEUDO REVOLUTIONARIES PROBABLY ON WELFARE LET ME QUOTE YOU SOME WINSTON CHURCHILL:

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

ALSO FOR SOME OF YOU PLEASE REMEMBER TO TAKE YOUR MEDICATION!

Gereroso,

Here are a few more;
“One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.”

Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”

" In Capitolism man takes advantage of his fellow man, in socialism and communisim its just the opposite"

stop stop you are going to make the dreaded one and Igor cry .....Igor proceed to the residence of Tex present yourself in front of his house and bend over and spread your buttcheeks his neighbor is going to give you a ride on the Metro...you will think your back in the joint...and then you can do some honest work cleaning up after the hurricane ....Your lil buddy chill is down there looting some where say hello to him for us

Was planning to vote for Obama but them read some news about the black caucus in the senate saying that once he becomes president he will punish Dominican Republic for being stupid with the haitians, at this point might flip a coin and maybe vote independent.

Hate Bush twin (Mccain) and his agenda..............

rubi get ready for some real shit if Obama gets in

And be prepared for the same excrement Bush has given you for 8 years if McLame stumbles in!

Josean has returned from his nappy and the guards have allowed him to use the internet for a while

The mess today has nothing to do with Clinton. The vintage of the securities causing the most trouble date very specifically to the last few years, not the 90s. Underwriting standards on mortgages did not become so lax until very recently, a result of banks reaching hard for more debt to securitize and sell. Bush expanded homeownership legislation (google: Zero Downpayment initiative).

Additionally and more importantly the SEC during this administration allowed the investment banks to leverage themselves to a much higher degree than before. The crisis today is a DIRECT result of institutions not having the capital base/liquidity to support their liabilities, so this is the crux of the issue. I know this may escape the understanding of the lay man but there it is.

http://www.nysun.com/business/ex-....-blames-agency-for-blow-up/86130/

Assigning blame to politicians for this is incorrect. The bankers greed and irresponsibility truly f'd everyone.

Manhattanite,

Please do not cloud Chaunceys mind with rational facts. If Rush, Isannity or Levin don't say it it ain't so!

"One of the biggest hurdles to homeownership is getting money for a down payment. This administration has recognized that, and so today I'm honored to be here to sign a law that will help many low-income buyers to overcome that hurdle, and to achieve an important part of the American Dream." - George Bush, having passed American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003, under a Republican congress.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031216-9.html

No down payment? You mean I can walk away in a year or two and have lost nothing much beyond rent payments?

Listen I'm not even going to try to pin this on Georgie. As I said above the bankers bear the brunt and then some of the responsibility for this issue. But all reading this beware of attempts to pin the crisis on Democrats, anti-racism initiatives, or government sponsored enterprises that worked for many decades. Ann Coulter is not a good source of financial information.

Isn't Georgie boy a Yale MBA?

Manny spoken like a true demo...barney frank will be proud of you...

Good news: increased ties with Russia must be good for DR. However the Russian pilots must be careful and avoid US planes.
http://kdka.com/topstories/flyers.airlines.changes.2.806410.html
GC - it might make your Caviar imports easier.
Aeroflot used to be a great airline - on the flights the Russians used to enjoy a good cigar.
DR can export cigars, mangos.
Domincan Republic could be protected by the new Russian Su-30MK.
http://www.air-attack.com/videos/80/page/6#
http://www.air-attack.com/videos/....tube.com/watchwatch?v=xj4Ia1F3Qxg
DR is lucky to have so many airfields suitable for this jet. Perhaps visits by the plane from Venez are possible, DR attack role planes are now Tucanos - but I think only two operational.
At one time DR used to operate DH Vampires.
S.

those vampires were like vauxhalls obsolete before they made them .....another substandard product of "The Home of the Wanker " who says Aeroflot was a great airline ?....how is that for credibility

"Domincan Republic could be protected by the new Russian Su-30MK.
http://www.air-attack.com/videos/80/page/6#
http://www.air-attack.com/videos/....tube.com/watchwatch?v=xj4Ia1F3Qxg
DR is lucky to have so many airfields suitable for this jet. Perhaps visits by the plane from Venez are possible, DR attack role planes are now Tucanos - but I think only two operational.
At one time DR used to operate DH Vampires."

What are you smoking?
SU-30's?

The DR doesn't have the Tucanos yet?

The Vampires were retired 30 years ago.

But the US bought the HS Harrier and developed it further. But now we just make Airbus wings. http://www.airbus.com/en/presscen....eleases_items/01_31_03_Wales.html
and Eurofighter.Typhoon - UK can still defend itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcFZcF17GJk
S.

GC I've spoken like someone with insight into the situation. By all means try and flex your knowledge of finance and show me where I'm wrong. Don't burn out your last healthy brain cells doing it.

Chauncey we are waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aeroflot pilots had ace veterans of the Korean war as instructors at the Air School in Kharkov. The pilots were exciting flyers.
http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7204-14.cfm
Flying to remote settlements near the pole with compass, stars and short wave radio.
There was a thrill is seeing a MIG off a turboprop airliner's left wing doing escort duty over E. Europe.
S.

"Written by: abc200, 26 Sep 2008 8:15 AM
From: United Kingdom
But the US bought the HS Harrier and developed it further. But now we just make Airbus wings. http://www.airbus.com/en/presscen....eleases_items/01_31_03_Wales.html
and Eurofighter.Typhoon - UK can still defend itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcFZcF17GJk
S. "
What does this have to do with the D.R.?

BTW The Typhoon and SU-30 have been rendered totally obsolete by the F-22 Raptor.

"Written by: abc200, 26 Sep 2008 11:32 AM
From: United Kingdom
Aeroflot pilots had ace veterans of the Korean war as instructors at the Air School in Kharkov. The pilots were exciting flyers. "
Who were spanked by the U.S. flyers who acheived a 10 to 1 Kill Ratio in the Skys over Korea.

But the highest scoring ace was Russian. The US pilots I knew had a lot of respect for the Russian pilots and their toy planes. Russian pilots had a 2:1 ratio in their favour.
http://www.plane-crazy.net/links/f86.htm
I think you have some strange information.
By the way - you jump to conclusions - Pan Am had some good pilots as well. Shame the rest of the organisation was not in the end up to scratch and they lost the big one at Lockerbie.
Still Russian tourists are good and increased links with Russia are to DR's advantage.
S.

abc the "wanker from hell" should have been executed with the Rosenbergs...or heretofore the fried Rosenbergers......Russian Spy and Limey Labourite from the commie Bevin era says Aeroflot was excellent airline...what a joke

More lies from the pet pig - I said great not excellent!
Canvas seats; yes ; but these might return on American airlines soon. Took a flight on a DR airline - there were people sitting on the luggage - and guess I paid the pilot personally. Islander I think. Another time here I was dispatched to get a pump to pump up the tyres - pilot said it was a slow puncture........
S.

By the way hope you US types have converted to Euros - dollar has lost 2 percent.
S.

"Russian pilots had a 2:1 ratio in their favour."

That number came from Soviet Pilots. Never been substantiated and considering the source most certainly false.

In Every conflict U.S. equipment Dominated Soviet planes no matter who were the pilots.

the wanker tells a lie often enough he starts to believe it.....he says moon landing is a fraud

Look - write to the author of the site with your information/records. I expect the US Californian plane museum has just got it wrong! Tell me when you get the site updated. I quoted a US source. Could have quoted Russian source. Even if it was 1:1 the Russians were still good pilots.
S.

abc200,

Here is a more credible source.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-86.htm

"By the end of hostilities, it had shot down 792 MiGs at a loss of only 76 Sabres, a victory ratio of 10 to 1. In the hands of skillful pilots, the Sabre's 10-1 Kill ratio over the MiG-15 was the best achieved in any sustained fighter campaign."

Soviet equipment, training and tactics have been proven to be poor over and over again.

Even this site reckons there was one Russian ace.
It gives no breakout for Russian pilots.
"The MiG's pilots were very good, being (for the most part) veteran Russian fliers"
from your source.
I was talking about the quality of the pilots - not the equipment.
For the most part Korean losses were not Rusian fliers.

Now is the time to respect the Russians who come as tourists as people of a former ally. The Russian people made huge sacrifices in WW2. They are helping to equip Venez with the best they have got to protect the Carrib people against continued US aggression.
S.

abc you commie wanker russian junk was never any good they stole every thing they ever made ...and that is why they collapsed to capitalism ....Uncle Joe would be proud of you wanker for sticking up for him

Get back to polishing your M16!

S.

By the way take your funds out of US banks - even Russian banks are safer!
You can proudly show your Russian bank passbook to Russian tourists - showing you are supporting the great Russian nation.
S.

Lord Haw Haw at it again?
S.

I've had many russian friends and none of them criminals. When it's about middle class russians taking a vacation in the caribbean, it's a "bad thing" for commies, when it's the russian military and Hugo Chavez's military having war games in the caribbean (our territory), then it's a "good thing". Lefties are really messed up.

El Jefe hit the nail right on the head about lefty weanies

The vampires are out tonight!

abc 200 for you....http://www.dilbert.com/

manny you gotta nerve"
Listen I'm not even going to try to pin this on Georgie. As I said above the bankers bear the brunt and then some of the responsibility for this issue. But all reading this beware of attempts to pin the crisis on Democrats, anti-racism initiatives, or government sponsored enterprises that worked for many decades. Ann Coulter is not a good source of financial information."....Manny take the time please to watch this video it includes great music ....and then tell me the bankers are to blame...I have lost all confidence in your financial savy ....please tell me why it is not so as in the video....PLEASE WATCH...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o ........even Bill Clinton agrees !!!!!

I welcome the tourists - see previous posts.- Their exports are increasing.......... and economy growing....... There I was thinking the parts of the Caribb are French........ Other parts e.g. BVI British.... ( Pusser's Rum & regular visits by the Royal Navy ). and of course Culebra is the last Spanish Virgin Island.
The Royal Navy is celibrated in the famous song:
I grew so rich,
That I was sent,
By pocket borough in to Parliament,
I always voted at my party's
call,
And I never thought of thinking
for myself at all.

I thought so little they rewarded
me,
By making me the ruler of the Queen's Navy.

Now landsmen all,
Who ever you may be,
If you want to rise to the top
of the tree.

If your soul isn't fettered
to an office stool,
Be careful to be guided by this
Golden Rule:
STICK CLOSE TO YOUR DESKS,
AND NEVER GO TO SEA,
AND YOU ALL MAY BE RULERS OF THE
QUEEN'S NAVY.
G & S
The Russian navy in the famous film The Battleship Potemkin

Of which Selznick said:
"unquestionably one of the greatest motion pictures ever made"
S.

abc Pussers Rum the product is now made in Kentucky the brand was the invention of a Canadian/American like myself whos father was in the Royal Navy it was a great American marketing gimmick and was only briefly made in Tortola BWI for the last 20 years has been made by the bourbon company that owns the brand ....also you left off Vieques also from Spanish VI...shame on you it was going to be home to the Royal Navy after you { UK } fell to the Nazis..You see wanker I know these things Because I used to live there....Roosevelt even moved many of the residents spanish speaking to St Croix ....that is why St Croix west end is bilingual

abc "wanker from hell "on subject of Potemkin the overrated movie you should have been in the baby carriage

when you were a cabin boy in royal navy abc that must have scarred you for life ...is it true what they say about the wheels on the ship....

Never mind GC - maybe soon you can visit the possible new Russian space center on Cuba - follow member of DR to ALBA. http://www.gpsdaily.com/reports/R...._On_Joint_Use_Of_Glonass_999.html
Great critics beg to differ in regard to Russian movies - but you need to be polite to the new guests!
http://www.zischen.org/2005/03/battleship-potemkin.html
These guys in Chicago should be cens0red for their perfomance in spite of the obvious lack of merit of the work.
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/directors/04/eisenstein.html
So I'm delighted - as well as Russian Vodka, the DR Russian guests can samlple the alcoholic delights of other original spirits - mostly products of the land of the brave I'm sure - and leave some Roubles behind.
S.
S.

Russian Vodka blows.
I'll Take Finnish or Polish Vodka anyday.

GC that video is old news and I had already seen it which is why I'm stepping up against this misinformation. It is easy to mislead people who haven't had the chance to put in the legwork when it comes to financial matters. The video fails to discuss the issue of solvency, capital requirements and leverage rules loosened for the very banks that failed, does not indicate at all that Bush took part in loosening the mortgage situation, pins no blame for the detachment of home prices from inflation being connected to Greenspan's long stretch of low interest rates, doesn't mention that the problem was over-securitization of debt into exotic assets far beyond the MBS stage which the GSEs promoted, doesn't answer the other point I'd already mentioned about the vintage years of the securities which have become toxic (all date to last few years) . Believe me one could easily make a video that makes republican policies and conservative economics look like the culprit.

Take it from someone who has been in this shit to his knees for a few years now via work, the blame for once is actually not the politicians' but the bankers'.

Tonyc youll take the polish sausage anyday... what do you know ?

Manny I beg to differ ...enough greed to go around but it was basically lets give every body a house whether they can afford it or not ...seemed like a good idea at the time ....you must have seen this also ...quite funny if get english humour.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzJmTCYmo9g

An Ekranoplan could be another Russian visitor! Good for troop movements.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7638659.stm
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abc you are better than EX LAX when it comes to movements

"Written by: abc200, 27 Sep 2008 4:57 PM
From: United Kingdom
An Ekranoplan could be another Russian visitor! Good for troop movements.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7638659.stm"

WIG(Wing In Ground effect) crafts have been produced for years. There is even one made in the US. I got to test sail(It is classified as a boat in the US) one a few years ago in Biscayne Bay.

It is fun but pretty much useless as an eficient mode of transportation. Noisy and uses fuel at an alarming rate. The few that are made are for personal fun crafts and some tourist thrill rides.
The Russians have no corner on the WIG market.

People don't care much about fuel consumption - a boat with a couple of 200 hp oceanpros might get through 200 gallons in a day based on 20 galls/hour - helicopters burn fuel fast. Have to see how the new Russian model does in the market and if Chevez buys some of the military versions for troop movement in ALBA.
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"Written by: abc200, 28 Sep 2008 5:20 PM
From: United Kingdom
People don't care much about fuel consumption"

Tell that to the Concorde. A plane that never made money and only was kept in service out of National Pride.

WIG don't have much tactical use as a troop carrier. Why use an expensive WIG that can only go over water when a Plane is much more eficient.

Tonyc dont get the " Wanker from Hell " all wound up this early.... he is still recovering from who knows what

A certain trip to the moon never made money either - nor did USA bomber fleet. USSR copied Concorde. Concorde could rapidly be converted to strategic bomber that few fighter aircraft could intercept. This interception was tested in 1985 - quite spectacular. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning
A WIG can land on beaches and immediately unload heavy armour; detonation rams. Military experts still visit Jersey to see Hitler's sea fortifications.
RO - RO ships are a possibility.
http://www.geocities.com/airbornemuseum/sld025.htm
Some Russian transports could match the capabilites of the A400M or C17. But large transports fare badly in vunerablity studies as you know. Perhaps new versions of An-124 are possible for ALBA. Normally they can be used for commercial freight. Maybe a big... Russian bird as visitor....
But as the Condor Express is registered in Nassau at time of crisis she could be recalled to her home port and used

for troops and armour for the Caribb. 800 passengers , 200 vehicles, 40 knots - and very cheap compared with aircraft. 54M dollars. Add a few LY 60's. Plus money can be earned as a fast ferry.
RO-RO ferries can be equipled with helicopter pads.
e.g. during Falklands War:
Elk 5,463 GRT — equipped with helicopter pad and two Bofors 40 mm guns to carry three Sea King helicopters, ammunition, and heavy vehicles including eight Bofors 40 mm guns, four FV101 Scorpion and four FV107 Scimitar light tanks - joined carrier battle group 16 May[4][10]
Baltic Ferry 6,455 GRT — equipped with helicopter pad and carried three Army helicopters, 105 troops, and 1874 tons of stores and ammunition to Ajax Bay on 1 June[4][11]
Europic Ferry 4,190 GRT — equipped with helicopter pad and carried vehicles, ammunition, fuel, and four Scout helicopters of 656 Squadron Army Air Corps to San Carlos on 21 May[4][12]
Nordic Ferry 6,455 GRT
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great ideas anthonyC
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"USSR copied Concorde. Concorde could rapidly be converted to strategic bomber that few fighter aircraft could intercept. This interception was tested in 1985 - quite spectacular. See:"

Please stay away from Aviation as you apparently know nothing.

Neither the Concorde or The TU-140 could have been converted to a bomber. They did not posses the structure nor the design for an internal Bomb Bay. The only choice would be to hang them on hard-points on the wings. This would have needed a major wing redesign and would not allow either plane to go supersonic. So they would just be slow, sluggish Targets.
The US developed the B-70 which was a MACH 3 Bomber. It flew Years before the Concorde or the TU-140. It was dropped as High Speed/High Altitude Bombing had become obsolete.

Nor could a 737 but - twin towers! It was TU-144 not TU-140. During WW2 both UK and Japs did no-return trips. The UK venture includes catapult lauches to protect atlantic convoys. A fleet of three concordes with atomic bombs could do some damage to Moscow or New York.
Information is that the TU-160 was developed after a design based on TU-144 was rejected. At the time a rear vigilante type ejection system for bombs was considered. Nuclear bombs weigh about as much as two overweight passengers - not a large structual load. Some are even lighter amd measure about 2 ft. cube or less. Some fit in a suitcase. V bombers then in use took considerahle time to reach target. Missiles at the time had different vunerabilites- Military experts from smaller countries did not like the sound of 'star wars' etc. in the 70's. Submarines had become increasingly detectable and sinkable.
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Possibly another Russian visitor to help in the defense of ALBA.
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1908
Large British hovercraft were a success for a while but fuel costs did not compare well with fast ferries.
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ABC,

You realize the US doesn't have any Free-Fall Nukes anymore. All aircraft delivered Atomic weapons are either SRAMs or Cruise-Missle types.
Even then if an all out Nulclear war was to happen the Bombers would be the 2nd or 3rd attack to mop up anything that isn't glowing in Russia.
Even Russia has given up on Free Fall Nukes.

BTW only Russian Subs are detectable and sinkable.
Ever hear of the great PING that happend in the 80's. It cost over 2 dozen soviet admirals their jobs.

No I was talking about history and the Concorde project. The era of the big bombers with nukes was just ending. The Vietnam war was raging - with proposals in the US to end it with Nukes. There are far better weapons systems now. The argument I was making is that at the time it was not commercial any more that landing a man on the moon was or many military programs. Much of the development was carried out in military establishments, universities etc. on a cost plus basis. I should have said 'could have done some damage'.
Having worked on sonars and other detection equipment I take your last statement with a pinch of salt. Exercises of Brits hunting US - subs. UK france etc. do not have many subs.

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No I was talking about history and the Concorde project. The era of the big bombers with nukes was just ending. The Vietnam war was raging - with proposals in the US to end it with Nukes.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/art....vietnam+war&sn=767&sc=207
There are far better weapons systems now. The argument I was making is that at the time it was not commercial any more that landing a man on the moon was or many military programs. Much of the development was carried out in military establishments, universities etc. on a cost plus basis. I should have said 'could have done some damage'.
Having worked on sonars and other detection equipment I take your last statement with a pinch of salt. Exercises of Brits hunting US - subs. UK france etc. do not have many subs.

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The WE177 free fall that could also be used as a depth charge went out of service with the RAF about 2000 I think.
http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/nukes/we177a_b.htm
The yield is known but secret. Possible 200kT.
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Exciting news:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/new....om+across+the+Atlantic/article.do
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abc the wanker from hell checks in with a UK crock of shit soon to follow in the footsteps of every other English substandard technical production of the 20/21st century...this to will soon be owned by the Pakistanis or whatever just like the Rover...when will these people learn to stick to tea and crumpets and strumpets