FORT WORTH.- Summer is fast approaching, so American Airlines and American Eagle, its regional affiliate, are reminding customers about the box and bag embargo on flights to certain destinations from June 6 through Aug. 25, 2009.
"American's intent is to provide the best customer service possible and to consider the needs of all passengers," said Peter Dolara, American's Senior vice President - Mexico, Caribbean and Latin America. "There are limitations on the amount of baggage that can be carried, both in the cabin and cargo areas, based on the size of aircraft."
Due to heavy summer loads and high volumes of checked baggage, customers traveling on American or American Eagle to certain destinations in Mexico, the Caribbean, Central America and South America will not be able to check extra bags or boxes during the embargo period.
The baggage embargo applies to San Pedro Sula, Tegucigalpa and San Salvador in Central America; Maracaibo, Cali, Medellin, La Paz, Santa Cruz and Quito in South America; Santo Domingo, Santiago, Port-au-Prince, Grenada and Kingston in the Caribbean; Nassau, George-Town, Exuma, Marsh Harbour and Freeport in the Bahamas; as well as Guadalajara, Aguascalientes, San Luis Potosi, Chihuahua and Leon in Mexico. All American Eagle flights to and from San Juan are also included.
A year-round box embargo is in effect for flights originating from, and passing through, New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK) to all Caribbean and Latin America destinations. A year-round bag and box embargo is also in effect for flights to La Paz and Santa Cruz, Bolivia.
Oversize, overweight and excess baggage will not be accepted for flights to the destinations covered by the bag and box embargo. Bags weighing between 51-70 pounds are subject to a $50 fee for each. One carry-on bag will be allowed with a maximum size of 45 linear inches and a maximum weight of 40 pounds. Sports equipment, such as golf bags, bikes, surfboards, and other items can be accepted as part of the total checked bag allowance, although additional charges may apply. Walkers, wheelchairs and any other assistive devices are welcomed for customers with disabilities.
About American Airlines
American Airlines, American Eagle and AmericanConnection(R) serve 250 cities in 40 countries with, on average, more than 3,400 daily flights. The combined network fleet numbers more than 900 aircraft.
Written by: xwill7, 11 Jun 2009 9:41 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
This is garbage. If I want to pay an extra $100USD for a third luggage then I should be able to. It is bad enough to try to fit all of your stuff in 2 bags that can only hold 50 pounds. The empty luggage already is at around 13-15 pounds. What are they going to restrict next??? No fat people on board?
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
xwill17/
you're just being reminded that there are LIMITS to your perceived RIGHTS. Those INCLUDE placing a limit on your inablity to plan ahead, think about what is essential and what is not. If you can't get evrything you ned into 2 bags weighing 90lbs, or less,(that's 50+40), then you will need to utilize either UPS Air or FedEX like the rest of us.
As to "fat people", maybe there AHOULD BE a premium placed on their configuration, whether they can "help being fat" or not andmake them pay for another person if they are grossly overweight for their height, according to established medical standards.
I guess some people just like to bitch about the way things ARE, don't they??
TexasBill
Written by: xwill7, 11 Jun 2009 4:25 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
I am use to taking a third bag. I flew through NY and they restrict the extra 3rd bag from NYC JFK flights. If I fly from Chicago to Miami I can take a third bag. The third bag is a good option if you do not want to fill and ship a barrel. Yes, they should charge extra for the fattys, I had a flight where this lady was taking one and a half seats. lol
From: Dominican Republic
What is wrong with this people? they are just finding excuses to keep taking extra money.
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Essentially, what they are duing is reducung their cost per passebger mile. For a long time, travellers have enjoyed not having to pay the costs that are associated with added baggage weight to the expenses of a particular flight. The airlines are begining to make th attempt to recoup some of those previous increasede passenger-mile expenses. Every aircraft has a limiting weight, below the certified Gross Weight. This is called the payload weight and is the combined fuel weight + passengers, crew and baggage.
Normally, passengers are calculaed to be 170lbs X the number of seats in the a/c. Then you add the 90lbs allowed for baggage (50 checked and 40 carry-on) for each person.Then comes the complex formula for figuring the center of gravity, initially and as the fuel is burned off for that trip.
All this is a simple physics problem, but it must meet the standards of the ICAO and FAA. bear in mind that a fuel reserve of at least 10% must be met.
TexasBill
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
It is for the above reasons that baggage is weighed at checkin time. This figure is furnished to the flight crew so they can complete the proper weight and balance computations for the entire flight.
Many times in thepast, baggage has been left behind to follow later because such baggage could not be carried on a particular flight due to excess weight being imposed.
Aircraft are essentially a "teeter-totter" with the flyable CG being just a couple of feet differential from front to back of the entire envelope. I've flown with just a 6 inch difference and the a/c was very sensitive in pitch. At high altitude this sensitivity becomes very tricky andhand-flying is usually replace with theuse of an autopilot, which can make the very minute pitch corrections a pilot would be unable to make due to the intricate4 use of the trim control switch. One click can change the attitude 500 ft/min climb or descent, but an autopilot can make a 50ft rate change with no problems.
TB
Written by: xwill7, 12 Jun 2009 9:33 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Tex,
But many times people don't even check in bags so the airline makes more money off of that person's ticket. its still a win win for the airlines and the customer gets screwed. Southwest airlines is one of the only airlines that has resonable prices, you can probably add spirit to that list as well. But if the airling charges $100USD for an extra 50 pounds, they made their costs back. Am I right?
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
xwill7;
I haven't seen very many passengers who don't check baggage, so that point is without substance. As to charging the $100 for the extra 50 lbs, I think that is reasonable incentive to more carefully manage one's personal baggage, or else "pay the Piper" for their lack of planning.
Of course you may be a "clothes horse" and simply can't do without your extra 2 bags of clothes; I don't know.
It just sems to me that your point is to complain because you feel that the airlines are gouging you unreasonable since that seems to be the main thrust of your argument, howevr senseless it may be.
Bear in mind, the airlines are in the business of making money, as are ALL businesses. We all have the prerrogative of using their service or not. None of them have a captive audience/clientele.
There are some 5-7 airlines serving the DR and that means there is competetion between each of them for the passengers served.
I think your argument is without merit.
TB
Written by: xwill7, 12 Jun 2009 11:48 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Well, I like the third bag because I hardly buy anything in DR. Everything is overpriced so I try to import all of my stuff from USA. lol The 5-7 airlines is good for DR. Delta and Spirit have begun to offer better prices to Santiago. I am upset beacuase the past few flights I have noticed many empty seats so they should give us that option. Its not like the planes are at full load like before.
From: Germany, Stuttgart
Is this why American Airlines always....ALWAYS.....manages to "misplace" my luggage in Miami en route to Santiago?
From: United States
They started implementing the $$ rules because of the cost of fuel (that was the excuse) last year all over the Media. Fuel has gone down, and they are not going to reverse the rules now that they see all the extra money coming in. This is another typical Corporate robbery against the passengers (Capitalism at it's best).
Written by: xwill7, 15 Jun 2009 10:30 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Undercover,
I agree, they will never reverse it until one airline reverses it for competition. Jetblue charges $20 for a second bag. They trick you into thinking that its a low fare but when you add $20 each way it comes out more than Delta or Spirit.
Written by: xwill7, 15 Jun 2009 10:31 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Negro,
I never had problems in Miami. But I have my baggs go direct transfer from Chicago. I do not have to recheck them in Miami. They must be checking your bag for anything good to take from you. lol
From: United States, Killeen, TX - Home of the 1st Cavalry
Back in the days befoe airline de-regulation, one was limited to one 44lb bag. anything above and beyond that was charged for at Air Freight Rates to the destination.
I've seen Dominicans arriving at STI with two or three trunk size bags plus carry-on. And that was FREE. i really think such abuses finally got theattention of management and they put a stop to such practices by commencing, again, to limit both the size and weight of passengers bags.
Given enough eniency andtime, people begin to think in terms of "the right to have as many bags and as much weight as they want" on each flight, foreign and domestic.
My advise, take ONLY what you need and buy what extra you feel you can afford after arriving at your destination.
Above all else, BE REASONABLE about what you take with you and don't whine when the carrier changes it's rules. It's THEIR business, after all.
TexasBill
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
I dont know about the rest of you but I fly often and the 2 allowed bags with weight restrictions has been in place for a long time (years) and during the summer months AA ALWAYS has restrictions on boxes, during Christmas flights to South America have them as well. Most people try to bring boxes and pass them off as luggage, but if you were to bring them to AA cargo they will gladly take them..........but you have to pay.
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you're just being reminded that there are LIMITS to your perceived RIGHTS. Those INCLUDE placing a limit on your inablity to plan ahead, think about what is essential and what is not. If you can't get evrything you ned into 2 bags weighing 90lbs, or less,(that's 50+40), then you will need to utilize either UPS Air or FedEX like the rest of us.
As to "fat people", maybe there AHOULD BE a premium placed on their configuration, whether they can "help being fat" or not andmake them pay for another person if they are grossly overweight for their height, according to established medical standards.
I guess some people just like to bitch about the way things ARE, don't they??
TexasBill
Normally, passengers are calculaed to be 170lbs X the number of seats in the a/c. Then you add the 90lbs allowed for baggage (50 checked and 40 carry-on) for each person.Then comes the complex formula for figuring the center of gravity, initially and as the fuel is burned off for that trip.
All this is a simple physics problem, but it must meet the standards of the ICAO and FAA. bear in mind that a fuel reserve of at least 10% must be met.
TexasBill
Many times in thepast, baggage has been left behind to follow later because such baggage could not be carried on a particular flight due to excess weight being imposed.
Aircraft are essentially a "teeter-totter" with the flyable CG being just a couple of feet differential from front to back of the entire envelope. I've flown with just a 6 inch difference and the a/c was very sensitive in pitch. At high altitude this sensitivity becomes very tricky andhand-flying is usually replace with theuse of an autopilot, which can make the very minute pitch corrections a pilot would be unable to make due to the intricate4 use of the trim control switch. One click can change the attitude 500 ft/min climb or descent, but an autopilot can make a 50ft rate change with no problems.
TB
But many times people don't even check in bags so the airline makes more money off of that person's ticket. its still a win win for the airlines and the customer gets screwed. Southwest airlines is one of the only airlines that has resonable prices, you can probably add spirit to that list as well. But if the airling charges $100USD for an extra 50 pounds, they made their costs back. Am I right?
I haven't seen very many passengers who don't check baggage, so that point is without substance. As to charging the $100 for the extra 50 lbs, I think that is reasonable incentive to more carefully manage one's personal baggage, or else "pay the Piper" for their lack of planning.
Of course you may be a "clothes horse" and simply can't do without your extra 2 bags of clothes; I don't know.
It just sems to me that your point is to complain because you feel that the airlines are gouging you unreasonable since that seems to be the main thrust of your argument, howevr senseless it may be.
Bear in mind, the airlines are in the business of making money, as are ALL businesses. We all have the prerrogative of using their service or not. None of them have a captive audience/clientele.
There are some 5-7 airlines serving the DR and that means there is competetion between each of them for the passengers served.
I think your argument is without merit.
TB
I agree, they will never reverse it until one airline reverses it for competition. Jetblue charges $20 for a second bag. They trick you into thinking that its a low fare but when you add $20 each way it comes out more than Delta or Spirit.
I never had problems in Miami. But I have my baggs go direct transfer from Chicago. I do not have to recheck them in Miami. They must be checking your bag for anything good to take from you. lol
I've seen Dominicans arriving at STI with two or three trunk size bags plus carry-on. And that was FREE. i really think such abuses finally got theattention of management and they put a stop to such practices by commencing, again, to limit both the size and weight of passengers bags.
Given enough eniency andtime, people begin to think in terms of "the right to have as many bags and as much weight as they want" on each flight, foreign and domestic.
My advise, take ONLY what you need and buy what extra you feel you can afford after arriving at your destination.
Above all else, BE REASONABLE about what you take with you and don't whine when the carrier changes it's rules. It's THEIR business, after all.
TexasBill