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MICHES, Dominican Republic.- Tropicalia, a sustainable, ecologically responsible, high luxury and low density tourism project of the Cisneros Organization in Dominican Republic, was presented to the community Miches in its first town hall meeting.

Present in the activity, with around 170 citizens interested in the project present and held in the Miches City Council were the project’s promoters; representatives and technicians of the consulting firm ECOMAR, contracted for the Environmental Impact Evaluation; authorities and representatives of the municipal organizations and its districts El Cedro and La Gina.

The Tropicalia project, to be developed in three stages within 20 years counts on a global investment of US$2.0 billion, and will create more than 3,000 jobs in its first stage and around 14,000 when concluded.

“The tourist Resort, whose management incorporates the principles of sustainable development and is guided by a solid policy of social and corporate responsibility, will have a beach hotel with 80 rooms, another mountain one with 120 rooms and 600 individual houses, with 3.5 rooms per hectare, making Tropicalia the the country’s lowest density tourist development,” said William R. Phelan, Tropicalia Vice-president and General Manager.

He said the Tropicalia project’s main guidelines are the development of sustainable tourism which protects the environment, integrating the communities to the project’s development and guaranteeing the access to jobs for local manpower.

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44 comment(s)
Written by: Blutarsky, 15 Feb 2010 3:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills
do not disdain Mr Cisneros he has a history of following through and this project is the future of tourism for the whole Caribbean in that they are planning to set new standards of ecological excellence and service .....you guys with your pitchforks who want to drive the developers into the sea will have to shut up on this one
Written by: Belly, 15 Feb 2010 3:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Houston,Texas y San Francisco, DR
The people of Miches hard work to be heard and listened too has paid off here and it does sounds like a very good project with much higher standards and more benefit to locals than Punta Cana did in it's days and I just hope Leonel finally see this project as a call for action to FINALLY finish the damn police department that was started long ago and stopped in the middle of the construction and is not a empty cement building abandoned by it's builders.Is time that Miche finally gets some attention because the conditions of the police department there I dare to say is the worse and the schools are not to far behind being the worse.Hopefully Mr. Cisnero can do the people of Miches a favor and pay attention to the local schools and the unfinished police department there.
Written by: texasshoe, 15 Feb 2010 3:39 PM
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
Blutarsky is correct,

Gustavo and his foundations are very well respected and serious in what they achieve around the globe.
Written by: yumnuk3, 15 Feb 2010 4:17 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Everything that Glitters Isn't Gold:

No management jobs for Dominicans.
Prostitutes all over the place.
Perverts running wild.
Filthy drug dealers all over the place.
Illegals terrorizing the local community and cutting every tree in sight.
No more white sand beaches for Dominicans.
50% of the jobs will go to illegals and foreigners.
Kiss paradise goodbye.
Written by: Perception, 15 Feb 2010 9:10 PM
From: United States
"Regrets I have a few, But then again to many to mention ".

Another Scam involving foreigners and locals, the minute you let them put the first shovel in the ground your srew with a flat bit.

They only wants to sell the lots !!!!
Written by: PepeLopez, 15 Feb 2010 10:01 PM
From: United States, I believe that Chillaxin was right!!! a commie but right
I think DR should fix and promote there current tourism locations then make more.
IS THERE more costumers for more resorts....?

Is this so called economic down turn going to get any worse....
there are several More Tourism projects for DR, I mean what do we have
Boca Chica , Juan Dolio, Puerto Plata, Punta Cana, Cap Cana, La Romana, Now Miches and Barahona....I know I am missing a few but, I think we are spreading our selves to thin.
We concentrate on the ones in the vicinity of the Airports.
Written by: josean, 15 Feb 2010 11:04 PM
From: United States

Kind of reminds us of the Canarsies, selling Manhattan to the Dutch even though the land really belonged to the Weckquaesgeeks.

Look how well that transaction was for the “Local Natives!”

I wonder how many of those who attended the "town hall meeting" to clap in approval like the clapping seals here on DT, were REWARDED to manufacture consent.

Of course not that Mr. Cisneros, The Mother Teresa of Tourism would ever use any such tactic.
Written by: Ricardolito, 15 Feb 2010 11:39 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
I am all in favour of this type of relationship between the local people and the developer ..in this case the developer is a highly respected man and the project is environmentally friendly and provides a lot of good work for the local area which does not have much other work available . There is no reason to suspect that Mr Cisneros would want to seek unwarranted approval but there are some who can think badly of nearly everyone and everything and who can never apologise for any erroneous slur .
Written by: josean, 15 Feb 2010 11:46 PM
From: United States

Now you are also moonlighting for Cisneros Organization in the Dominican Republic?

I thought that was Banistan’s job?
Written by: glomarexplorer, 16 Feb 2010 12:02 AM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes

For DR to grow, it must separate itself from being merely a tourist destination.

Right now, I believe there are too many resort areas in DR for number of tourists that visit.

Proposed new resorts are just that and won't offer anything that's not offered already somewhere else.

With our thirst for fine watches, yipetas and expensive housing, we need to clearly move away from tourism to sustain our expectations. This type of industry would only employ entry-level jobs and maids. That's not what we aspire to in DR. We would be better off letting this type of industry find a home somewhere else. Clearly, DR has not materially benefited from already existing tourist resorts, as money stays largely overseas. Yes, a few maids are employed, but that's not how we grow a country, emerge from 3rd world status. We need more money to stay in local hands. In fact, we would be better off with eco-tourism and local ownership.

We must stop diluting national patrimony!

MJEV.
Written by: josean, 16 Feb 2010 12:08 AM
From: United States

Dr. Strangelove,

You busted Banistan's and little Ricky's tourism dream balloon with your commonsense pitchfork!
Written by: Perception, 16 Feb 2010 12:11 AM
From: United States
With our thirst for fine watches, yipetas and expensive housing, we need to clearly move away from tourism to sustain our expectations. This type of industry would only employ entry-level jobs and maids

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Cannot agree more !!!!
Written by: glomarexplorer, 16 Feb 2010 12:23 AM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes

Dean Josean,

At the end of the day, I must consider myself, first and foremost, a great Dominican-no matter whom I may upset in process. When it comes to my country and patriotism, friendship and popularity matter little to me; my people, constitution and country are paramount. Yes, indeed they are.

I am a thinking conservative and avowed capitalist, but my people and country always come first, as they must. This feeling transcends all other allegiances-all of them! I will make friends and enemies with my commentaries at DT but, let it be crystal clear that my interest and heart is always the good of my country and its people-always! I will not compromise that most compelling need, at least not intentionally. Both my parents almost gave up their lives defending these principles, as they were some of the first people at "Ciudad Nueva" in 1965. I will not let them down-ever!

As the French Canadian say: "je me souvien".

MJEV.
Written by: glomarexplorer, 16 Feb 2010 12:26 AM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes

Perception,

Thanks.
Written by: Perez, 16 Feb 2010 1:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Amen to u glomarexplorer!
Written by: josean, 16 Feb 2010 1:36 AM
From: United States
Perez,

It is great to see that there are more rational thinkers on DT than clapping seals!

Now let me go fishing for Banistan’s morning feeding!
Written by: glomarexplorer, 16 Feb 2010 2:05 AM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes

Perez,

Thanks.
Written by: Ricardolito, 16 Feb 2010 3:15 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
Glomarexplorer I guess you know better than Senor Cisneros ..all his market research and his professional plans are obviously no match for you and Josean ..guess we should all just tell him to take his money elsewhere and let all the people who were going to have work remain in their idylic unemployed state .
Written by: Ricardolito, 16 Feb 2010 3:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
Maybe those people who do not want an environmentally friendly hospitality industry on the Samana peninsula could tell us what industry they would be happy with there.or do they wish the Dominicans there to have no work or to relocate eleswhere to find work .
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Written by: Ricardolito, 16 Feb 2010 3:57 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
Maybe those people could also tell us why a 5 star resort will only emply entry level jobs and maids. ...maybe they think that there is no need for first class chefs, hair stylists, swimming teachers,gym instructors, physiotherapists, doctors, professional gardeners ,food suppliers and other professions . It would be of interest to know why they want Dominicans in Samana not to have these opportunities.
Written by: BASTA, 16 Feb 2010 5:47 AM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
Illegals terrorizing the local community and cutting every tree in sight. We cut many more trees than the Haitians
Written by: tschotschua, 16 Feb 2010 5:52 AM
From: Germany, Koblenz/Azua de Compostela, R.D.
JOBS creation is the highest way of personal dignity and root for all Well-Being !!!
there we should build the basis of our development and improvement.

Quality for Excellences !!!
Written by: Blutarsky, 16 Feb 2010 8:10 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills
Glomy are you unfamiliar with the standards maintained at the Punta Cana Beach Club.This hotel wins all International awards for their community and ecolo0gical work far above the Industry standards ....The Cisneros project will go beyond it on a bigger scale and serve as a world ecological Showcase .....there is much altruism here that does not meet the eye enlighten yourself ....This area cannot be left for piecemeal developments by local hustlers .....it needs a VISION and Cisneros has one ....it will help to save Los Haitises and Samana ....Glomy do not turn dog in the manger like Josean "the whiner" and please look into this
Written by: texasshoe, 16 Feb 2010 9:38 AM
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
Written by: yumnuk3, 15 Feb 2010 4:17 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Everything that Glitters Isn't Gold:

No management jobs for Dominicans.
Prostitutes all over the place.
Perverts running wild.
Filthy drug dealers all over the place.
Illegals terrorizing the local community and cutting every tree in sight.
No more white sand beaches for Dominicans.
50% of the jobs will go to illegals and foreigners.
Kiss paradise goodbye.

Yum- I guess you mean it will be business as normal!!!!!!!
Written by: anthonyC, 16 Feb 2010 10:05 AM
From: United States, I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
"the Tropicalia project’s main guidelines are the development of sustainable tourism which protects the environment,"

Don't they know that the time for "green" marketing has passed? After the snow job the public was delivered with global warming they ain't buying that stuff.
Written by: Blutarsky, 16 Feb 2010 10:24 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills
its not buying anything.... just sensible development with safeguards for a very Delicate ecologically important area
Written by: Grosero, 16 Feb 2010 11:17 AM
From: United States

More like Cisneros’ US$2.0B tourism's screw job!!!
Written by: Blutarsky, 16 Feb 2010 11:33 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills
Better Cisneros than 50 Cheeseball Hustlers of various origins
Written by: josean, 16 Feb 2010 11:34 AM
From: United States

Even AC an avowed Free Market Capitalist sees through this pig in a poke of a project, but Banistan and Ricky keep clapping like the irrational trained obedient Seals they are!

I will have a bucket of fish for your afternoon feeding, keep carrying the water for Mr. Cisneros , you guys have a career in the making at SEAWORLD next to Baby Shamu!
Written by: glomarexplorer, 16 Feb 2010 2:33 PM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes

All,

My main concern is uncontrolled number of AI's. My father was a promoter of this concept. He now regrets it. He's seen what happened in Puerto Plata and is disgusted by it.

I don't exactly question Mr. Cisneros credentials and am sure he is an astute businessman. You don't get to his level by being a dummy.

Another concern of mine is proper management of our remaining resoureces and not slaying "the golden goose" or stomping on "golden eggs". We've got to leave something unspoiled so we don't become another PR, with nothing left prestine and to explore. You continue to overdevelop and the tourist would just migrate to another location with more to offer.

Look, people from Toronto don't really need to come to DR to see nice buildings. They already live in one of the most beautiful cities in the world. They come to DR for its unspoiled beauty, friendly people, beautiful beaches and those presidentes.

We got good gig foing. Don't screw it up!

MJEV.
Written by: glomarexplorer, 16 Feb 2010 2:41 PM
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes

Continued:

I also wish to exercise good balance and insure that the national patrimony is not compromised and something is left for the people.

You simply cannot leave the locals, patrimony beneficiaries, excluded from access to the incredible beauty they have been endowed with. You continue to exclude them and soon they will revolt and then everyone loses.

Good beaches must be designated for public access; ditto for other resources such and mountains and lakes and rivers, etc.

Dominican Republic for Dominicans first, then for everyone else. I want for my people to be able to live in their own country, afford a decent living and housing ownership. I want them to prosper from Quisqueya's beauty and everything it's been endowed with. When these measures have been achieved, then we could proudly state and scream to the world that we are successful. How nice!

This is what I want for my people, and rightly so, I am proud to proclaim-even as a capitalist.

MJEV.
Written by: Blutarsky, 16 Feb 2010 2:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills
Like I said Better Cisneros than 50 Cheeseball Hustlers of various and dubious origins ........Those are the choices......the people of Miches want to come to the table as well and they will sell it off in dribs and drabs to the Cheeseballs
Written by: yumnuk3, 16 Feb 2010 2:55 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨

Written by: texasshoe, 16 Feb 2010 9:38 AM
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
Yum- I guess you mean it will be business as normal!!!!!!!


Oh yes, and I blame no one else, but our own leadership.
I don't go around blaming others for our own faults .
Written by: yumnuk3, 16 Feb 2010 2:57 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
Basta,
Shock me, say something intelligent.
Written by: Trujillo, 23 Feb 2010 4:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
We can have a diversified economy and all these tourism projects too. Last time I checked we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Written by: josean, 23 Feb 2010 5:18 PM
From: United States

Oh really!

How about universal world class education and 24/7 electrical service?

How came we can walk and chew in those two arenas simultaneously?
Written by: machete, 23 Feb 2010 10:44 PM
From: United States
i mean no disrespect to none of you that comment and express your opinion but when it comes to my town,where i was born and raise. this is the greatest thing that has happen to my Miches in a very long time. take for what you want but from the capital to Miches it would take you a three-hour drive on roads so bad the trip can be nauseating. Electricity is erratic, drinking water is contaminated, the beach in town is littered with trash and nearby rivers are either clogged with an invasive weed or plagued by silty agricultural runoff that threatens the fish on offshore reefs. this project for the all-but-forgotten town, comparing the lopsided development of two areas not even 50 miles apart. “When you spend so much time poor and without any hope and any education and right next door is Punta Cana we say, ‘Why not us?’ we need at least a foot on the ladder of development. before you said anything negative please go to miches now and again in 5 years then you can say what you please.
Written by: Trujillo, 24 Feb 2010 12:59 AM
From: Dominican Republic
I know people in Miches want this project, and I know people in Baní want Puerto Baní and in Monte Cristi they want Colombus Bay, but Josean is a hater and doesn't know our people very well. Just wait, very soon keep your eyes east of the Americas airport. There construction of a new kind of project will officially start next month I believe and that project will need higher skill jobs. I'm talking about the Indenpendent Financial Centre of the Americas. Go to WWW.AMERICAS.COM and learn more. Josean you might learn something, but it might be a little too much for you.
Written by: josean, 24 Feb 2010 9:16 AM
From: United States

To the two geniuses and experts on development and foreign investment


I am just not one of those who prays at the altar of ALL development is good.

Or a practitioner of the religion of, "sell everything to foreigners because they are our saviors!"
Written by: Blutarsky, 24 Feb 2010 9:30 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills

You are just one of those who whine and complain with you little pitchfork all the time
Written by: Blutarsky, 24 Feb 2010 9:36 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Barbacoa Samana in the Hills
Pitchfork Brigade Please Read...............Travel and tourism can make a valuable contribution to the economic recovery, and can be an important pillar of the global efforts to unlock enhanced economic growth, infrastructure development, trade promotion, poverty eradication and particularly job creation.
Written by: josean, 24 Feb 2010 2:14 PM
From: United States

From the latest PLD talking points memo!
Written by: machete, 27 Feb 2010 3:10 PM
From: United States
Josean, i here your frustration my dude, but your point would've been well taking if instead of development, you focus on what really have you piss that fact that we were one of the biggest producer of sugar and now we are buying from cuba, and importing plantain fron Honduras.

Y que Agosto es el Presidente del pueblo.
Written by: josean, 27 Feb 2010 6:12 PM
From: United States

machete,

Bingo my man, Bingo!
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