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Santo Domingo.- British ambassador Steven Fisher affirmed Tuesday that his government issues travel advisories to its nationals as “objective assessments,” in response to DT’s inquiry on warnings quoted by several England media regarding London’s cautions.

“The British Government’s Travel Advice offers objective assessments of risks to British nationals visiting the Dominican Republic.  Armed street crime, particularly in Santo Domingo, is a problem,” the diplomat said, noting that even two members of the Embassy staff have been mugged at gunpoint in separate incidents on the busy thoroughfare Bolivar Av. in the last six months.

British outlet telegraph.co.uk, quoting the Foreign Office warning over crime in the Dominican Republic, reports that the agency “has updated its advice for British holidaymakers heading to the Dominican Republic, following recent reports of violent crime against tourists.”

Fisher also noted the recent armed assaults involving 20 US citizens in the same area. “It is our responsibility to mention this in our Travel Advice. I am satisfied that our Travel Advice is objective and proportional.”

Telegraph.co.uk said the British Foreign Office reported the several crimes it affirms occurred in Santo Domingo. “The majority of incidents have taken place in Santo Domingo, the country’s capital city, with a number of tourists being mugged at gunpoint in broad daylight while travelling through residential areas,” and also cite the incident on Bolivar Av.

“Visitors are being warned to take care when walking through isolated streets or when travelling on tourist scooters, especially at the night, and to avoid quiet, poorly-lit areas. Tourists are also advised to keep all valuables, including passports, in hotel safety boxes and not to carry large amounts of cash when outside of their hotel,” the report said.

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Written by: josean, 12 Feb 2013 1:29 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016

“The majority of incidents have taken place in Santo Domingo, the country’s capital city, with a number of tourists being mugged at gunpoint in broad daylight while travelling through residential areas,”

Ambassador Steven Fisher how dare you say theTruth about what is happing in METROLANDIA!




Written by: hputters, 12 Feb 2013 1:36 PM
From: Iraq, IRAQ
And this is the next country after the US and the Netherlands. Beginning of the end for tourism I would say so. It's time to get some law and order in the DR.
So Medina do something about this because it is the nations pocket that will be effected.
Written by: anbro2007, 12 Feb 2013 1:51 PM
From: United States
The goal is 10 million tourist per year, or did they meant per 10 years?
Written by: Ricardolito, 12 Feb 2013 1:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
This is the sort of news that Josean just dreams about , some negative advice given out. As if nothing happens to tourists in London and if you are going walking in any park in London at night be very careful..
Bolivar is a perfectly safe street in the day time except at the Independencia end where there are homeless people but nottoosafe at night because the beautiful trees all the way along the Avenue create many shadows ..
The last paragraph is just common sense no matter where you are .
Written by: Danilo, 12 Feb 2013 2:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic, www.DuckyDeals.com
Sounds pretty accurate for a large city, hopefully this alert will bring changes to Politur and other agencies.
Written by: juanb, 12 Feb 2013 2:22 PM
From: Dominican Republic



The truth?

You can't handle the truth.
Written by: johnnyb, 12 Feb 2013 2:48 PM
From: United Kingdom
I respect that everyone has the right to say what they want.But people should understand in every major city in the world there is crime.
I am from london and have been living in the Dr for 13 years, safety YES, more so than america or the uk.How dare these people start saying these things about this beautful country.Yes there is crime and gangs everywhere and it is sad this happens but it is in the main cities where crime is rampant not the smaller places. So please do not taint this country where freedom and liberty are still intact.Where people are stil proud and fight for there rights.FACTS I LIVED IN CABRERA 10 YEARS SMALL TOWN TOURISM YES CRIME MINAMIL NO PROBLEMS FOR ME. 3 YEARS IN NAGUA POPULATION 80OOO .PROBLEMS NONE.yOU GET GOOD PEOPLE AND BAD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE STAY IN THE UK AND CONCENTRATE ON THE SAFETY OVER THERE.
EXPAT PROUD TO LIVE IN THE DR
Written by: RonEvane This user is banned, 12 Feb 2013 3:02 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland

Criminals commit crimes because it's easy, especially when carrying a concealed weapon.
One good, effective, and long-lasting way to fight crime is by taking guns out of the streets. Anyone caught packing without a permit, will be arrested and given an automatic 18month sentence.
They can serve their sentence in a new prison built on Beata island.

Make gun ownership an expensive and closely-regulated privilege. Politur must be more visible with patrols in the busier thoroughfares and touristy areas.

Written by: RobertoJose, 12 Feb 2013 3:12 PM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Ricky my man, soon you're going to run out of excuses... According to DT and every other news outlet, the malicious acts outnumber the good deeds. You must be feeling pleasurably satisfied over the act by wearing that purple ribbon proudly around your neck in order to come up with these excuses ...
Written by: josean, 12 Feb 2013 3:15 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


johnnyb Good, you just have been lucky or have a military escort!

Written by: RonEvane This user is banned, 12 Feb 2013 3:19 PM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland

I'm also very proud to be part of the "Narco, PLD mafia", and will wear my purple ribbon when appropriate. Who's with me?
Written by: RobertoJose, 12 Feb 2013 3:20 PM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
Ron, you're wrong to say that it should be harder for a law abiding citizen to obtain a permit. What about the criminals that already have their weapons, how will the government make the illegal gun owners relinquish their armament, besides doing a national search of private dwellings.
Written by: RobertoJose, 12 Feb 2013 3:23 PM
From: United States, FREEPORT, Long Island.... ((You're blind to the fact that you're blind))
"When appropriate" ? lol, fake asss niugga
Written by: rokete, 12 Feb 2013 3:33 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Well said Mr. Ambassador !!!

There is no justification to the crime ridden Santo Domingo, and DR at large.

Yes there is crime in all major cities in the world, but we have taken one of the first places.

Everything has a method of control.

Kill some of those scum bags that are out there, mugging and killing innocent hard working
citizens.


This is happening because of lack of will in the part of the government.

The A$$ H%^$ of Leonel Fernandez looked the other way, on the issues of crime.

Also the human rights advocates that are in the country, fu%#@ us all.


I hope that the declaration of the ambassador of Britain, serves in helping those imbeciles in the government, understand that people cannot continue to live in fear, in the city of Santo Domingo.

If the government cannot protect it's citizens, it cannot protect it's tourists either.

Therefore, we don't deserve to have good tourists in our country.
Written by: bernies, 12 Feb 2013 3:44 PM
From: United States, key west fl
I am a Dominican and one time while visiting the USA I was rob in Georgetown not to far from M street and Connecticut Avenue back in 2002 and the same happen to me in South Beach Miami, but that did not stop me from keep on going there, so what I do now is I stay off of people that are offering to help me when I don't need the help. So yes people are going to get rob and mugged everywhere. One thing that we do not have in this country is the worry that some crazy Muslim will blow up in the crowed area and kill as many people as they done in the USA, UK, Spain and many other countries. So in other words it is still safe to come here.
Written by: johnnyb, 12 Feb 2013 3:45 PM
From: United Kingdom
I thank god nothing has happened to me, but you never know,but lets take a close look, where else can i a gringo walk at 2am in downtown cabrera for over 10 years with nothing happening to him.
Or lets say nagua a busier town .Now if i say london,santo domingo or new york different story right. because crime is more rampant in city areas.Another thing people see here is a lot of guns yet do you see madman going into schools or shopping areas blowing people away no.
Another thing for expats to look closely at is blending with your community and getting to know your neighbours. iHave been teaching english for years and love what i do.N ow if you go looking for trouble or are in an area where there is crime things are going to happen in all corners of the globe.
The media is constantly bombarding us with gun laws at the moment.I see guns everywhere here but no problems. What does that tell you. Am i safer in the states or london where everyday my constituatinal rights are being take
Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 3:58 PM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: johnnyb, 12 Feb 2013 3:45 PM
From: United Kingdom

I thank god nothing has happened to me, but you never know,but lets take a close look, where else can i a gringo walk at 2am in downtown cabrera for over 10 years with nothing happening to him."



Johnny, some people can't handle it. DR is the worst this, the worst that,.....on and on.....



They simply can't handle the truth.




Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 4:04 PM
From: United States, NYC


.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/dominican-republic


Actually, the warnings are NOT TOO harsh and I view them as being more pragmatic than this article gives rise to. Checked out others for Mexico and Jamaica. These made you far more willing to consider some alternative travel plans.

North and Central America and Caribbean
Dominican Republic

Still current at: 12 February 2013
Updated: 06 February 2013

No restrictions in this travel advice Avoid all but essential travel to part(s) of country Avoid all but essential travel to whole country Avoid all travel to part(s) of country Avoid all travel to whole country


This advice has been reviewed and reissued with amendments to the Safety and Security – Crime section (muggings in Santo Domingo). The overall level of the advice has not changed; there are no travel restrictions in place in this travel advice for Dominican Republic.




Written by: DRmaker, 12 Feb 2013 4:26 PM
From: Canada
I always wondered why all the Brits at the all-inclusive I stay in never went out.

They stay safe (and get hammered) inside the resort.
Written by: Ricardolito, 12 Feb 2013 4:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
Yes Ron E ,,take away the guns and i am sure the muggings would be severely reduced ,
I have just read the very lengthy travel advice on the Dominican Republic and 95% of it is very accurate and could be heeded by everyone living here . The only section which appears to be a little sensationalist is in regard to local crime. It relies for substance on that crime where a group of visiting us doctors were walking at night , I think near the corner of Bolivar and Maximo Gomez and from that incident the phrase is used that there has been a number of incidents where tourists have been mugged at gunpoint in broad daylight .
I think a more appropriate statement would have been to say that muggings are not unknown in dangerous parts of the capital but the tourist areas remain relatively safe.
But to be quite fair there are warnings on all Caribbean and central American countries and probably the DR is written up as one of the safest so I would not be gunning too hard on young Snr Fisher
Written by: josean, 12 Feb 2013 4:44 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Of course we have very Little Crime on the USELESS METRO.

Either because it not reported so as not to scare the few passengers it has or it has too few passengers or BOTH!

Written by: Ricardolito, 12 Feb 2013 4:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
The metro is not on the main tourist areas and so is not relevant here
Written by: josean, 12 Feb 2013 5:01 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


"The metro is not on the main tourist areas and so is not relevant here"

or RELEVANT to 9,940,000 Dominicans for that matter!


Written by: BASTA, 12 Feb 2013 5:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all
I'm also very proud to be part of the "Narco, PLD mafia", and will wear my purple ribbon when appropriate. Who's with me? 3---s or ass
Written by: rokete, 12 Feb 2013 5:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo


Guy's the issue here is serious, it's safety, it's not metros and politics
Written by: bigblatino, 12 Feb 2013 6:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I must have misread the statement. They were just issuing a statement saying some British tourists have been mugged in broad daylight in a certain area. They are not saying not to travel to the Dominican Republic. Just saying be careful.
Written by: JHCL2016, 12 Feb 2013 6:31 PM
From: United States, EN PUNTA CANA: Jose H Con Leonel 2016!


RD is one of the safest country in the World...


bavaronews.com/newest/actualidad/locales/3977-5100000-pasajeros-crecimiento-que-no-se-detiene.html
bavaronews.com/newest/actualidad/locales/3976-aipc-un-vuelo-hacia-el-desarrollo.html
facebook.com/hotelplazacoral

¡Pa'lante y Manos a la obra!

8-)
Written by: Ricardolito, 12 Feb 2013 7:23 PM
From: Dominican Republic, calle A.Portes
well Josean , the new road between Sosua and Rio san Juan is not relevant to most of the population, the new road between la Romana and Punta Cana is not relevant to most Dominicans ...so what exactly is your point
Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Feb 2013 7:34 PM
From: United States
we all knew that it would not be long before Atabey dragged Jamaica into the conversation, so i have to ask him a few questions

1...how many foreigners have been KILLED in the DR in the last 5 years?

2 how many foreigners have been KILLED in Jamaica in the last 5 years?

the fact is that Jamaica is hellaciously dangerous, but nowhere as dangerous for TOURISTS AND EXPATS as the DR is. go to Kingston, and chances are that you will take a stray bullet. tourists have far less worry in Jamaica than in the DR. a couple weeks ago, a floating condo ship called The World docked in POP. 300 folks aboard. we heard from the Tourist Board that this was the start of the revival of tourism in POP. we were going to see one at least every month, and big things were about to happen. well, i have not heard too much about subsequent visits, since 8 of the passengers were reportedly mugged along the Malecon. keep comparing the DR with other countries. that will cut down the problem here.
Written by: guillermone, 12 Feb 2013 8:51 PM
From: United States
Steven Fisher is just covering his ass. In case something happens to one of his unruly Brits.
But the fact is British nationals are the ones, who are carousing, brawling and getting violently sick. They are the ones crowding into health clinics seeking morning-after pills and help for sexually transmitted diseases. They are the ones who seem to have one vacation plan: drinking themselves into oblivion. They are getting themselves into trouble and becoming vulnerable for criminals to take advantage of them.

I have a friend who spent a few weeks in a resort in Europe who said, “They scream, they sing, they fall down, they take their clothes off, they cross-dress, they vomit” The polite and proper Brits are developing a reputation to be one of largest exporters of inebriated hooligans of Europe.
Written by: josean, 12 Feb 2013 9:00 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



They didn't cost a Billion Dollars, the lead to somewhere, assist with commerce, genetate revenue and aren't a $25,000,000 dollars annual Financial albatross to the Dominican taxpayers!!



Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:12 PM
From: United States, NYC
Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Feb 2013 7:34 PM
From: United States

we all knew that it would not be long before Atabey dragged Jamaica into the conversation, so i have to ask him a few questions"


Well Dready thanks for being up for another challenging-for you-quest: defending Mexico-I DID MENTION MEXICO AND JAMAICA- against the British.

SAFETY AND SECURITY
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Safety and Security - Crime

Jamaica (particularly the capital city, Kingston) suffers from a high crime rate – including violent crime. Gang violence and shootings are usually concentrated in inner city neighbourhoods, including West Kingston, Grant's Pen, August Town, Harbour View, Spanish Town and certain parts of Montego Bay. Public order incidents and demonstrations, sometimes violent, can occur in Kingston, Spanish Town and Montego Bay.

The motive for most attacks on tourists is robbery. Although the Jamaican government has a system of mobile police patrols, there is a risk in walking alone in is
Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:13 PM
From: United States, NYC


The motive for most attacks on tourists is robbery. Although the Jamaican government has a system of mobile police patrols, there is a risk in walking alone in isolated areas or on deserted beaches even in daylight hours. Vigilance is particularly advised when drawing money from ATMs.
Most hotels and resorts are well guarded. However, robberies can occur. Hotel guests are advised to follow hotel security procedures such as using room or hotel safes, locking windows and doors and reporting suspicious activity to the hotel. Longer-term visitors and residents should ensure proper door locks and window grilles are fitted and consider employing a guard and/or fitting a house alarm. Gated/guarded compounds represent the safest accommodation in the Kingston area.

Criminals have targeted visiting British nationals and those returning to resettle permanently in Jamaica. There have been some violent incidents, including cases of armed robbery, murder and rape.
Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:14 PM
From: United States, NYC


Criminals have targeted visiting British nationals and those returning to resettle permanently in Jamaica. There have been some violent incidents, including cases of armed robbery, murder and rape. Before returning to resettle, seek advice from the Jamaican High Commission in London and/or the local Jamaican Information Service.

You should still maintain vigilance even when staying with family or friends.

You should follow these guidelines:

Be particularly alert for thieves but do not offer resistance in the event of an attempted robbery.

Don’t walk or use buses at night. Only hire taxis authorised by the Jamaica Tourist Board usually operated by the Jamaica Union of Travellers Association (JUTA) or taxis ordered from hotels for your sole use (i.e. unshared).

Do not give lifts to strangers and keep car doors and windows locked.

Avoid large crowds and public demonstrations. Criminals use the confusion of such events to engage in acts such as robbery.

Do not car
Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:15 PM
From: United States, NYC


Avoid large crowds and public demonstrations. Criminals use the confusion of such events to engage in acts such as robbery.

Do not carry large amounts of cash or wear eye-catching jewellery. Use hotel safety deposit boxes to store valuables, money and passports.

Try to vary which restaurants you use. Frequenting the same place too often might make you a target for thieves.

Unless you are fully acquainted with the route and are driving in daylight hours, you should not self-drive a car to or from Kingston’s Norman Manley International Airport. Instead, take an official 'JUTA' taxi, or taxi recommended by your hotel or airport’s official taxi dispatcher for your journey to or from the airport. There have been outbreaks of violence in the Mountain View area on one route from the airport to the city. You should therefore avoid this route and use the alternative signposted Humming Bird route via South Camp Road.

SAFETY AND SECURITY

Safety and Security - Crime

Jamaica
Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:16 PM
From: United States, NYC


General - Consular Assistance Statistics

Around 180,000 British nationals visit Jamaica every year. Most visits are trouble-free. 215 British nationals required consular assistance in Jamaica in the period April 2011 - March 2012 for the following types of incident: 236 deaths; 23 hospitalisations and 88 arrests, for a variety of offences.


Versus

General - Consular Assistance Statistics

170,065 British nationals visited the Dominican Republic in 2011 (source the Dominican Central Bank). Most visits are trouble-free. 45 British nationals required consular assistance in Dominican Republic in the period 1 April 2011 - 31 March 2012 for the following types of incidents: nine deaths; 22 hospitalisations; ten arrests for a variety of offences.



Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:20 PM
From: United States, NYC


General - Consular Assistance Statistics

295,831 British nationals visited Mexico in 2010 (Source: Instituto Nacional de Migración). 82 British nationals required consular assistance in Mexico in the period April 2011 - March 2012, including for 23 deaths, 17 hospitalisations and 19 arrests.


Written by: Atabey, 12 Feb 2013 9:23 PM
From: United States, NYC


Source: The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/jamaica

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/dominican-republic



in Mexico in the period April 2011 - March 2012, including for:

23 deaths,

17 hospitalisations and

19 arrests.

Versus

in Dominican Republic in the period 1 April 2011 - 31 March 2012 for the following types of incidents:

nine deaths;

22 hospitalisations;

ten arrests for a variety of offences.


Versus

in Jamaica in the period April 2011 - March 2012 for the following types of incident:

236 deaths;

23 hospitalisations and

88 arrests, for a variety of offences.




Source: The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/mexico1




Over to you.








Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Feb 2013 10:21 PM
From: United States
Atabey is so dishonest, it makes me wonder if he is totally sane. he posts some nonsense that suggests that there were 238 murders of foreigners in Jamaica between 2011-2012. funny, he cannot provide a source of his figures, so he gives us a link to an article about Mexico, hoping we will not notice. that article describes the situation in Mexico, and has nothing to do with Jamaica. the man has not ever heard of the word 'honesty". it is not in his dictionary.
Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Feb 2013 10:28 PM
From: United States
Atabey, did you see this posting?


Nice to see a good and constructive conversation.. oh .. Dr Atabey is not involved.. so that's why it's going well..

i guess that there are people who agree with me that you are irrelevant, ignorant, uninformed, and just plain disruptive of any attempt at an intelligent conversation. i told you, but you would not believe me.
Written by: mannyberrios, 12 Feb 2013 10:37 PM
From: United States
Nice reporting , Atabey
Written by: josean, 12 Feb 2013 10:44 PM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016


Another dyslexic!


Written by: zonyk157, 12 Feb 2013 10:59 PM
From: United States
The truth hurts! The Dominican Republic is a narco state! The wild wild west!
Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Feb 2013 11:14 PM
From: United States
mannyberrios, i gave you more credit before, but now i wonder. Atabey cannot count to ten, therefore he cannot do short division. 240 people murdered in a year is 20 per month. which is 2 people every 3 days! so, if you find Atabey's nonsense worthy of credit, i feel pity for you. almost as much as i feel for Atabey.
Written by: guillermone, 12 Feb 2013 11:15 PM
From: United States
@zonyk157

Well I think callng the DR a Narco State is a bit far fetch. It is nothing when compared to Mexico, and Colombia. Even much smaller countries such as San Salvador and Honduras leave the DR in the dust. However, I must admit, if it continues at the present rate, it will not doubt become similar to the those countries aforementioned. But for now comparatively speaking the DR remains in its infancy stages.
Written by: zonyk157, 12 Feb 2013 11:47 PM
From: United States
Guillermone i never said it was the biggest narco state, but it is a narco state.
Written by: jasfalon, 13 Feb 2013 7:49 AM
From: United States
"infancy?" - that's a joke. Guillermone knows nothing about RD.
The Sinaloa cartel is in the country!!!!!
The Hell's Angels are in the country!

And the military still exists.
Written by: hernandez5482, 13 Feb 2013 8:28 AM
From: United States, Vivir sin Patria, es lo mismo que vivir sin Honor.
I can't believe some comments here... DR is safe..DR is the safest country in the world....
We all know that is not true... If you are a tourist, you better stay within the resort compounds because there are lowlifes on the lookout to make a quick buck... I am Dominican and visit very often and i see first hand what goes on... Our country is not safe for outsiders to roam around unless you go to the countryside.
Written by: jasfalon, 13 Feb 2013 8:39 AM
From: United States
...and I know several people who were killed, assaulted or robbed in the countryside, too.
Written by: hernandez5482, 13 Feb 2013 9:00 AM
From: United States, Vivir sin Patria, es lo mismo que vivir sin Honor.
Not in Loma De Cabrera, Estancia Vieja and Sabana Inaje. I see many Germans/Americans walking around town all the time... Crime rate is very low although these areas are not densely populated...
Written by: josean, 13 Feb 2013 9:08 AM
From: United States, Fighting the Dictatorship of the Narco PLD Mafia; Guillermo Moreno President 2016



Please beware especially of the PURPLE PLD Political Muggers; they Rob the Domincan 24/7/365!


Written by: Atabey, 13 Feb 2013 10:52 AM
From: United States, NYC
"Written by: dreadlocks, 12 Feb 2013 10:21 PM


Atabey is so dishonest, it makes me wonder if he is totally sane. he posts some nonsense that suggests that there were 238 murders of foreigners in Jamaica between 2011-2012. funny, he cannot provide a source of his figures, so he gives us a link to an article about Mexico, "


REALLY?



Why don't you try a bit harder, like typing Jamaica or Dominican-republic in the link provided?

Too hard, Dready?


The information comes from: General - Consular Assistance Statistics

Source: The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/mexico1


fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/dominican-republic


AND FOR JOLLY OLD JAmaica:


fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/jamaica




Over to you.




Written by: Atabey, 13 Feb 2013 11:16 AM
From: United States, NYC

General - Consular Assistance Statistics

Source: The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/jamaica

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/dominican-republic



in Mexico in the period April 2011 - March 2012, including for:

23 deaths,

17 hospitalisations and

19 arrests.




Versus



in Dominican Republic in the period 1 April 2011 - 31 March 2012 for the following types of incidents:

nine deaths;

22 hospitalisations;

ten arrests for a variety of offences.




Versus



in Jamaica in the period April 2011 - March 2012 for the following types of incident:

236 deaths;

23 hospitalisations and

88 arrests, for a variety of offences.




Source: The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office

General - Consular Assistance Statistics

fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-
Written by: RonEvane This user is banned, 13 Feb 2013 11:37 AM
From: United States, Gaithersburg, Maryland
Murder rates per 100,000 population, for 2010
….percentage………...count

Cuba 5.0 -- 563
Canada 1.6 -- 554
Costa Rica 10.0-- 474
D.R. 25.0 -- 2,513
El Salvador 69.2 - 4,308
Guatemala 38.5-- 5,681
Honduras 91.6-- 7,104
Haiti 6.9-- 689
Jamaica 52.2-- 1,430
Mexico 22.7 -- 25,757+
Russia 10.2-- 14,57
U.S 4.8-- 14,748
U.K 1.2 722
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 11:41 AM
From: United States
Atabey came to the site intent on proving how intelligent and scholarly he is. that venture failed, spectacularly. he was exposed as a moron in short order, and ended up being an object of both pity and ridicule. he has now changed his tactics, completely. he has decided to prove how stupid he is. good decision on his part. his success to that end has been nothing short of spectacular.
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 11:44 AM
From: United States
Atabey, i asked you to provide statistics on HOW MANY TOURISTS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN JAMAICA IN THE LAST 5 YEARS. nothing more, nothing less. i did not ask for statistics regarding to locals. TOURISTS, Atabey, TOURISTS. I apologize for my limited computer skills, or i would post this in crayon for your consumption.
Written by: danny00, 13 Feb 2013 11:46 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
stop and frisk policy....... by real police....


There have been fewer murders in New York City to date this year than at any time in the 50 years since the NYPD began tracking major-crime data.

For this, thank your local police officer.

And, of course, the enlightened — albeit sometimes controversial — anti-crime policies of Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and Mayor Mike Bloomberg.

As of yesterday, there were 413 homicides in the city this year, according to police.

There were 511 at this time last year.

That marks a 19 percent plunge in a single year — a remarkable feat.
r the fact that this year there will be the lowest number of murders that we’ve had since theystarted to record them in 50 years, even though the population is as high as it’s ever been,”
Written by: danny00, 13 Feb 2013 11:54 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
the murder rate is at 3.5 per 100,000 people in new york city.... but now u go to the hunts point area its 15.7.... w/h's is about 11%..

many yers ago i think it was in the early 70's...... five american tourists where robbed and killed on a golf course in the island of JAMAICA... no one went their for their vacation at this time.....
all u saw a few months later on tv commericals... was
"come back to jamaica......{come back my a....}
i hate this country when my kids where young we would go to the best hotels JAMAICA had to offer.... while iam at the front desk pocals where trying to seel my young kids DRUGS..... in the LOBBY in front of every one.... bullshit......
Written by: danny00, 13 Feb 2013 12:01 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
AND I NEED TO ADD TO THIS STORY ABOVE.....

ONE HUGH PROBLEM IN THE DR IS THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO HELP U IF U GET INTO TROUBLE IN THE DR.....
NO ONE...... THEIR IS NO REAL POLICE FORCE IN THE DR.... THE POLICE THEY HAVE {"bring their own crime wave to the their own people on a daily basis"
u speak spanish? very few police or locals speak english...
with all of the bullshit comments above.... this fact remains..
NO ONE WANTS TO GO ON A VACATION ANY WHERE IN THIS WORLD AND GET ROBBED OR KILLED.... DO THEY?
SIMPLE ANSWER... GET A REAL POLICE DEPT, REAL JUDGES AND COURTS.... CLEAN UP THE TRASH IN THE RIVERS AND BEACHES...
AND WHO KNOWS.. IT JUST MIGHT WORK.......
Written by: danny00, 13 Feb 2013 12:03 PM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
how many tourists have been killed in jamaica

why waste time with other tourists places and try and fix the problems in the dr?
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 12:25 PM
From: United States
says Danny

i hate this country when my kids where young we would go to the best hotels JAMAICA had to offer.... while iam at the front desk pocals where trying to seel my young kids DRUGS..... in the LOBBY in front of every one.... bullshit.

i bet that you bought more than your fair share of drugs from those peddlers. waaay too much! that explains why, many years after, you have very little mind left, if any. i always wondered what caused your dementia. now i know. thanks for sharing.
Written by: DRmaker, 13 Feb 2013 1:20 PM
From: Canada
dreadlocks:

"i bet that you bought more than your fair share of drugs from those peddlers. waaay too much! that explains why, many years after, you have very little mind left, if any. i always wondered what caused your dementia. now i know. thanks for sharing."

I was LOL when I read this.

Sometimes others on the forum are a little harsh on Danny00.

I admit I do enjoy reading some of Danny00's comments.

At best he makes some valid points.............................at worst he provides comic relief, LMAO.
Written by: guillermone, 13 Feb 2013 2:27 PM
From: United States
Zonyk157-"Guillermone i never said it was the biggest narco state, but it is a narco state."

"The Dominican Republic is a narco state! The wild wild west!"
Please for the benefit of us all give your definition of a Narco State?

I know you were not talking about size but neither was I. You specificaly said and pointed to the DR. Meaning the whole Nation of "the Dominican Republic is a narco state." That is an extremist comment. While I would not deny there are pockets or areas within Metropolitan Sto Dgo which have been taken over by drug gangs, it is another thing to state it is all over the country.

We are all well aware drug cartels have begun to infiltrate and influence the military and corrupted some government officials but to claim the government and military is run by the drug cartel is a whole other story. Perhaps in your enthusiasm and excitement might have said something a bit overboard. I would suggest you back track and better explain exactly what you mean.
Written by: rokete, 13 Feb 2013 3:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo

guillermone

Now from a few petty criminals roaming the streets of Santo Domingo, we are a Narco State.

You have been watching to many movies, guillermone.

Crime in DR is not organized enough, for it to be a Narco State.

Crime is not yet out of control, or at a level of anarchy for it to be a Narco State.

If it get out of control it could become, but the country is very small,

and the military well prepared for this to happen in DR.

We have isolated Narco incidents.

Quite different from a Narco State.





Written by: guillermone, 13 Feb 2013 3:59 PM
From: United States
Thank You Rokete-That is exactly what I thought.

It was not my idea. I never stated that the DR was a Narco State.
I was only responding to anther poster Zonyk157

He seems to be alarmed at how bad things are getting in the DR and with just cause.
Things don't look good, but it has not yet reached the point of a "narco state".
I am not saying that it can't potentially happen, but things for the time being are still manageable and can be contained. And like you said, we are too small of as an island nation capable to not allow it to get completely out of control.

Nevertheless, he is likely having an anxiety attack or is on panic mode.
Some medication will calm him done and just might do the trick.
Written by: mannyberrios, 13 Feb 2013 4:43 PM
From: United States
Dread! I said (nice reporting) I did not say that I believe it
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 6:41 PM
From: United States
manny, i recognize sarcasm when i see it. i bet you if you ask danny the name of the hotel, and the name of the town it is in, he would have to go to google for an answer.
Written by: mannyberrios, 13 Feb 2013 8:07 PM
From: United States
@ Dread! jajajajaja
Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 13 Feb 2013 9:55 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I see that most of you have not lost your touch over the last 2 years and that our usual supporting cast from " the unknowables(Ataboy huhummm)" continues to haunt the airwaves with a head full of off the cuff brugal soaked propoganda that he received while watching last nights edition of "around the world the world in 80 seconds" hosted by the B.B.C .
Hey guys , can I come back and play too ? Its been awhile and after a year and and a half of drinking Presidente on the shore lines of Bavaro and travelling around this island without a scrape on my knee Im starting to get a little bored .
Written by: Atabey, 13 Feb 2013 10:14 PM
From: United States, NYC


AND FOR JOLLY OLD Jamaica:


fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/north-central-america/jamaica


in Jamaica in the period April 2011 - March 2012 for the following types of incident:

236 deaths;

23 hospitalisations and

88 arrests, for a variety of offences.



Those deaths you can check up in the BRITISH SOURCED web-site.


But that's a tall task for yea!


Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 13 Feb 2013 10:17 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Yes , you may be able to find slant eyed street vendors selling won ton soup , chino rail passes and egg rolls in any Dominican town in the near future but rest assured , that Danilo did not invite Mr.Miogi and his ancestors to the next Dominican Thailand to teach Karate and self defense tactics to ignorant gringo tourist so they can wield the butter knife they stole from the buffet line at their all inclusive resort against any Dominican hood willies they encounter should they decide to take a stroll through the hood of Santo D. at 3 a.m on a saturday morning .
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 10:28 PM
From: United States
those were deaths, you cretin. not murders. then again, you are too stupid to understand the difference, so i will not explain it to you.
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 10:30 PM
From: United States
Atabey, still ducking the devaluation thread, i see. what's the matter? not man enough to face some questions? what am i talking about, anyway? you will just put your scruffy little tail between your legs and run, anyway.
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 10:36 PM
From: United States
Atabey, how is your THESIS on 'deposit wealth' going these days? still working on it? who is helping you? Jacques Atalli?
Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 13 Feb 2013 10:46 PM
From: Dominican Republic
You see Ataboy , you are a classic example of a " media butt puppett " . If you dont stand for something you will fall for anything and although I still wear the crown when it comes to twirling the shit lip baton , I would like to prove my point to you and your wanna be disciples who have 8 inch dents in the seats of their lazy boys and samsung wing sauce remotes glued to their finger tips while they drool over Shepard and Wolfs latest swansong .
Go to DR1.COM and read the story about last nights big fire in Bavaro which happened to be about 50 yards from my apartment . The DR media will have everyone believe that ' THE NAVY , THE POLICE NACIONAL AND THE POLITUR were all on hand to make sure that all customers and tourists were escorted from the premises safely but the truth is that the niether the navy nor the police nacional ever came and the politur who were the only response to the scene showed up about 2 hours after the place was a bonfire and everyone had evacuated .
Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 13 Feb 2013 10:53 PM
From: Dominican Republic
That said, do you really think that just because some cheap ignorant britt who had one too many pints splits his pants and looses his ex lax watch after flipping off a dominican motoconchero gives Queen Elizabeth Enough balls to curse tourism in this country ?
Written by: dreadlocks, 13 Feb 2013 11:03 PM
From: United States
dominicanheartbeat, i am feeling you, as we say in the Bronx. i just think that your linguistic presentation is going to be lost on Atabey.
Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 13 Feb 2013 11:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Your so right bro , maybe if we could have summoned " the great Blutarsky" out of Havanas sewer pipes it would have been more of an intellectual powow lol , but for the record , your crayon post was Fukin top 10 bro jaja .
Written by: dreadlocks, 14 Feb 2013 12:13 AM
From: United States
thanks, heartbeat. Atabey is low hanging fruit.
Written by: ChicharronyPresidente, 14 Feb 2013 2:04 AM
From: United States, Abajo la Robolucion
Is interesting ( not sure what adjective to use here) to see how some people are actually happy when things are going bad or some bad news comes out of the Dominican Republic. I suspect these people have their own political agenda or their own selfish interests at heart. Like a self admitted communist once told me in Puerto Plata, " Lo bueno de esto es lo malo que se esta poniendo" . Only a traitor would actually find pleasure in seeing its own country suffer ridicule. To see its own people suffer in order to push his own self interests and politics. This "news" is not news. Is funny how some people won't go out their own homes in their own country at night, but they forget simple precautions when they visit the capital of any other country. These Brits can get mugged outside their own homes. So what is the news? Nothing, just hype. Just crap. Or maybe the ambassador is looking for a bribe? Hummmmmmm? A little money to grease those palms and shut his mouth?
Written by: dreadlocks, 14 Feb 2013 8:49 AM
From: United States
is dominicanheartbeat the only guy here who gets this picture? countries issue travel advisories against other countries all the time. it is the sworn duty of embassy personnel to cause alarms when their citizens get attacked by thugs. these things are mere formalities. as heartbeat asks, does anybody think that some words from the ambassador will do lasting damage to the DR tourist industry? heck, the actions of certain sectors of the Dominican populace do more damage to the image of the country than the formal pronouncements of some stuffed shirt official. as i said, when the ship The World docked in POP, we all heard how tourism would be revived, and at least one of those ships was expected every month. what happened? eight passengers get robbed on the Malecon. if that brought bad publicity, whose fault is that?
Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 14 Feb 2013 10:09 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Dread , Ive been living here in the D.R for the last 2 years and I have travelled to (what is marketed ) as the most dangerous cities in Latin America and truth be told , one is safer on the streets of San Salvador at 2 a.m than on a street corner in Miami . Dont you find it interesting Dread that due to much exaggarated and undocumented bad press , Mexico has takin a huge hit on the chin in regards to tourism and yet not once do I recall ever reading about a cartel member entering a 3rd grade class room or a cinema and wasting somebodys grandson just for shits and giggles . Maybe its these 'UNCIVILIZED DEVELOPING NATIONS ' that should be issuing travel advisories to its wanna be american idol citizens that are choking on Uncles Sams apple pie as he brain washes them with spanish versions of leave it to beaver reruns and $99 no money down ,no license required chevrolet lease specials if they make it over the fence in one piece .
Written by: danny00, 14 Feb 2013 10:16 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
for the guy from london.............

it is very simple stay in the uk and concentrate on the safety over there.
expat proud to live in the dr
is it true that u have a 16y old girlfriend...... iam sure your about 50y old at least { closer to 65y old} and are bald and on the fat side when it comes to weight......
this is the only reason your loving then dr for now....
u have any elec to speak about?.. hows your drinking water?. u know the list... its far from a paradise......
u also love the loud music all night long? the barking dogs, the alarms from the cars going off all night long? this is what u love?
do u think u have one friend over their?....... u will find out at the end of your dream... it just might turn into one nightmare.....
choo choo
all aboard the london express..... lol.....lol.....lol.... guess u like living with people that cant read or write?...
Written by: danny00, 14 Feb 2013 10:25 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
yesterday i spoke about the murder rate in new york city that is at 3.8 per 100,000 people...... for the year of 2012......
but now lets go over to the hunts point {bronx}... they had a much larger number it was 15.3..... this number is the about the same as the west african nation of benin.....
mott haven-melrose also in the world-famous bronx.... they came in a close 2nd at 13.1 killings tied with the postrevolutionary nicaragua.......
university heights another bronx neighborhood came in at 10.5 this is about even with the mob-driven russian's rate of 10.7.....
people lie...... numbers dont lie..........
Written by: danny00, 14 Feb 2013 10:32 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
in the bronx its especially bad the killings they always seem to be random and sensless.
hey! iceland had zero homicides..... last year.... the florida keys one murder......
[one crazed cuban his wife left him for some one else he got upset traveled from miami and blew her brains out}
i live in the florida keys.... i have never in 15years felt that i had to lock my door in my house..... we have no bars and gates like in the dr around not even one home or business in the keys......has the bars like they have in the dr.....
this is a great way for one to live... no?
Written by: danny00, 14 Feb 2013 10:35 AM
From: United States, syosset, key west, santo domingo AND NOW THE GLOBE TROTTER
hey! guy from london..... tell me whos going to help u if u get into trouble?..
no one is going to help u guy.........
not even to bury u or send your body back to london town.....

where the f......k do u think your livng at?.....
Written by: dreadlocks, 14 Feb 2013 10:35 AM
From: United States
heartbeat, i would consider it a privilege to sit with you some day, and share a few beers. you are a true breath of sanity and fresh air. stick around, because, as you can see, with minds like Atabey, the site has gone into the crapper.
Written by: dreadlocks, 14 Feb 2013 10:41 AM
From: United States
what is with danny00 and this bars and gates nonsense? the first time i visited New York was in 1957, and my mother, who was already living there, had 4 locks on the door. she had a scheme where she would lock 2, and leave two unlocked. know why? if some guy who knows how to pick locks picked them all, he would be opening 2, and locking 2. by the time he figured it out, somebody would have spotted him. and, as dominicanheartbeat quite eloquently stated, at least in the DR, some nitwit is not going to go into a pre-school, armed with an AK47, and waste 10 little kids, just because his mother would not give him money to go to the Justin Beiber concert.
Written by: dominicanheartbeat, 14 Feb 2013 11:00 AM
From: Dominican Republic
First round is on me Dread , but I promise you it will not be in some cozy redneck Key West establishment where the campacinos anoint each other with Bud light buckets as they cry out for another chorus of FREE BIRD and Sweet Home Alabama from the bar stools of Jimmys Margaritaville lol.
Danny lets be geographically relative . Of course the crime rate in Buffets trailor parks is much lower than in Malcom x back yard in Queens , just as the crime rate in Punta Cana is virtually zero in comparison to Santo Domingo . Going back to my Mexican example , the fact is that 99% of all the over inflated hype that you hear about in sombrero land is happening about 2000 miles away from your nearest all inclusive . The Jones family from Canton Ohio has a better chance of sighting Castro flying around Sandals resort on a broom stick with a stogie in his mouth than seeing a cartel member scoring a lid on some Mayan riviera sand dune.
Written by: dreadlocks, 14 Feb 2013 12:21 PM
From: United States
heartbeat, next time you are in the DR, send me a pm. i will hook up with you, wherever you may be.
Written by: gucancan, 14 Feb 2013 12:36 PM
From: United Kingdom
What I find unfair is the in Barbados Professor James Bridges and his wife Olga, were brutally attacked by a masked intruder wielding a knife just minutes after checking into their million dollar rented villa in the island’s north-western parish of St Peter at the same time as this but the FCO travel advice on Barbados was not updated with this horrible crime.
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