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OSLO.- In awarding (United States president Barack) Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, the Norwegian committee is honoring his intentions more than his achievements, the BBC Website reports.

“After all he has been in office only just over eight months and he will presumably hope to serve eight years, so it is very early in his term to get this award,” it said of the U.S. leader.

It said the committee does not make any secret of its approach. It states that he is being given the prize "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples."

 

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Written by: ElProfe This user is banned, 9 Oct 2009 8:26 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Jarabacoa
CONGRADULATIONS To My President.

This is a great honor for a man who has had to take on the biggest can of worms ever.

Written by: texasshoe, 9 Oct 2009 8:31 AM
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
This is by no means to belittle the award bestowed upon the American President. But how on earth could taking office in January and the deadline for nominations was two weeks later be a measure of accomplishment for anybody.
Written by: pelaut, 9 Oct 2009 8:50 AM
From: United States
I agree, ElProfe.

However, the committee makes its selection on Feb 1st, then sits on it to be safe.
They had no precedents to go on only ten days into his taking office.
What they are doing, and have done since they gave it to Arafat, is messing in the politics of another country, the U.S.

Isn't that something the U.S. is always accused of, and isn't it real bad then?
Written by: ElProfe This user is banned, 9 Oct 2009 8:50 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Jarabacoa
Tex, just the mire fact that a Black Man won the Presidency of the United States should be enough to win the prize. Heck you live in Texas you know what I mean. Back in the 70’s we had the KKK headquarters in Pasadena where they wore their hoods and burned crosses and then the moved to Vidor where they would drag black men behind P/U trucks. Alpine Texas late 80’s they still had separate dinning areas and bathrooms for blacks. So we have come a long way in 20 years.

President Obama is a Symbol of how America is changing and we should all be proud because this is going to open new doors for our children and for the World.

Written by: walnut, 9 Oct 2009 8:52 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
How in the world did a man who literally has accomplished nothing win a peace prize?
Another ridiculous choice for an award that is a joke.

Next year, maybe Chavez?
Written by: walnut, 9 Oct 2009 8:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
To all the lovers of Obama....
In less than one year, he has created a debt for the USA that will take several generations to recover from. His "trickle up" economic policy will create a welfare state in the US that will destroy the fabric of America.
Meanwhile, give me a list of past accomplishments for this "messiah",other than duping everyone.
Written by: walnut, 9 Oct 2009 9:13 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Hey Prof,
I will give him nothing but a chance to prove himself. This has nothing to do with that jackass Bush. It is the "peace" prize. Still war in Iraq, escalation in Afghanistan, North Korea and Iran appeased, the Muslim world demanding everything and giving up nothing, the Russians and Chinese getting Obama on his knees begging and the world spinning out of control.
Right, peace prize. I say, P.O.S.
Why not Mugabe? Hamas?
Written by: ElProfe This user is banned, 9 Oct 2009 9:26 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Jarabacoa
From bbc.com
The Nobel Committee said he won it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".
The committee highlighted Mr Obama's efforts to support international bodies and promote nuclear disarmament.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the Norwegian committee said in a statement.
"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."
Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel Committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".
"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.

Written by: baldoria23, 9 Oct 2009 9:28 AM
From: United States, Washington
Walnut, can you really say that pres Obama hasn't changed the way the US is viewed in the world? can you not see that change the way the US is recapturing the moral ground in diplomatic setting? Are not those significant achievements?

Taking on the financial crisis, healthcare, and credit cards company... you don't see that as achievements? I give you that US debt is increasing, but haven't you read Keynes? well, I hope that you're not an idealogue who can't be open enough to see how things are changing in the US and in the World, thanks to the efforts of the president.

Moreover, this administration, I can assure you, has an overwhelming effort to increase evaluation of our projects to assess what works and what doesn't. This is a non-ideological approach to management which is paying HUGE dividens b/c it is forcing people to think about their project design and increase effectiveness. So please don't say that the Pres hasnt had an impact, but even the Republicans can see that
Written by: JD_Dominguez, 9 Oct 2009 9:55 AM
From: United States, Reality Check
First of all, major congrats to the President!

TEXASSHOE, the committee has been following the President and his agenda all along during the campaign to know his position.

BUT, we still have many so called good Americans who cry during the star spangled banner or are outraged at the flag burning ... BUT FEEL IT IS OKAY NOW TO DISRESPECT THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT (since a black guy is sitting in the seat). Case in point, Rep Joe (forgot to take his medication) Wilson & others on DT board who I will not name becuz they know who they R..

Wal NUT, will tell you about the US Gov spending under Obama BUT will NOT tell you of the $1 Billion a day war with Iraq started under Bush. Nor that REAGAN actually started the runaway deficits (via lowering Gov revenues with tax cuts while accelerating defense spending = $GAP). He will not tell you the last two balance budgets were under Democrats (Clinton & Kennedy). So, now what does that tell you about people like WalNUT????
Written by: JD_Dominguez, 9 Oct 2009 9:55 AM
From: United States, Reality Check
Others will NOT tell U the sh!tcan mess of the US economy.

The losted American family wealth via home values, foreclosures, lack of healthcare reform driving bankrupticies, delinquencies & credit card companies tightening the noose around our necks as they lobby GOP's in office for less Gov oversight & regulation leading the way for crooks (Madoffs, Sanfords etc) & then closures of life-long charities whose ENDOWMENTS FAILED.

MRIOS & WalNUT types do not want to talk about corporate meltdowns (from Enron-to-MCI Worldom-to GM), nor creating tax breaks to ship job overseas (Halibrat) when we were paying $5/gallon gas in downtown Chicago. WTF???

Guys, I can go on and on...

Now, the President won this award because he is doing something Bush, Shotgun Cheney, Quick Quit Palin and McLame could NOT do!

Maybe YOU only do NOT recognize (what many Americans along with the rest of the world do) but America is "starting" to regain is leadership status in the world (noted by Dreadlock
Written by: dreadlocks, 9 Oct 2009 10:17 AM
From: United States
actually , walnut, they did not award him the Peace Prize because he ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. they did so because of his worldwiew about international relationships. he appears to believe in diplomacy and consensus, as opposed to the neanderthals in the republican party who believe all disagreements can be resolved by a few strategically delivered cruise missiles.
Written by: guillermone, 9 Oct 2009 10:42 AM
From: United States
Look, I am not knocking Obama. The guy has great qualities. He is super intelligent, charming, eloquent, highly educated and has made history. But please..... the Nobel Prize for peace, come on now. I can only compare this to how athletes are awarded multi-million dollar contracts before they actually perform on the field or the court and not after. I thought that this prize was given on the basis of life time achievement in the promotion of peace in the world. To me this is a slap on the face for other Nobel Prize winners that were actually awarded a world reknowned prize based on actual and tangible results and not on a promise or the possibility of potential achievement.
Written by: dreadlocks, 9 Oct 2009 10:44 AM
From: United States
i am with you on that, Guillermone. however, his selection probably was done by default. maybe the rest of the field is littered with shitboxes like ....? i cannot think of anyone.
Written by: guillermone, 9 Oct 2009 11:01 AM
From: United States
Dread-Yeah.... you're probably right. Yet, God, I can't believe that they could not actually find anyone else. I even had my doubts when Al Gore won the peace prize in 2007 but at least he was involved with something vital to all of humanity. The climate crisis is not a political issue but something of vital importance for everyone. It is a moral and spiritual challenge to benefit all of the world in its entirety and without distiction. Can we say the same for Obama?
Written by: clinker, 9 Oct 2009 11:12 AM
From: Dominican Republic
"...honoring his intentions more than his achievements"
its just what it says. some just don't get it. he is trying to open all the closed doors that the evil empire (bush, cheney, rumsfeld) closed with stupid wars & comments like 'crusade' and 'axis of evil'
how else can we avoid future wars? diplomacy and dialogue, which is what he is DOING today. just no more sending troops please / end the imperialism / go for renewable energy / the end
congrats to mr. president!
Written by: hellborn25, 9 Oct 2009 11:20 AM
From: United States, new jersey
obama does not deserved this yet , he has not proven himself and has done nothing positive to talk about, I know is still early in his presidency, but obama has not done anything good lately. the 780 billion bailout has futher debt this country , his socialist ideas have not won him any friends. and cash for clunkers is a freaking joke . I think putting obama in office was a mistake they just put him there caus he was black and they thought he was really gonna make a change. I think he was put in office to bring in the new world order plans in effect
Written by: josean, 9 Oct 2009 11:28 AM
From: United States
Had LIE-onel Fernandez found the 180,000 missing daily riders for the useless METRO he might have beat out President Obama for the prize!
Written by: dreadlocks, 9 Oct 2009 11:48 AM
From: United States
well, hellborn, i suggested that he is simply the best of a sub-optimal lot. can you suggest an alternative, or would you suggest that the august fellows at that institution leave the award in abeyance this time around? and, if it is given on the basis of "intentions, not achievements", how can you disagree with their assessment?
Written by: ElProfe This user is banned, 9 Oct 2009 12:35 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Jarabacoa
Clinker, well put. Our Predident is trying to bring the world together after the other bunch of clowns made the world hate Americans.

Hellborn25, Americans put him in office and no on else. The bailout comes after the Bush Chaney administration screwed the Americans and the World in General. Those two bastards need to burn in HELL. You can’t blame President Obama for what they did. He is just trying to clean up the mess.

Josean, Get a life! You and your Lie-metro bullshit. The only award Fernandez needs is to be thrown out of office in his PJ’s just like his little buddy in Honduras.
Written by: josean, 9 Oct 2009 1:08 PM
From: United States
El que se pica es por ahíje PLD que come y coméoslo!
Written by: etiennc01, 9 Oct 2009 2:34 PM
From: United States
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Written by: etiennc01, 9 Oct 2009 2:37 PM
From: United States
josean
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Written by: dreadlocks, 9 Oct 2009 2:52 PM
From: United States
etiennec, have you ever pondered the alternative of a children's forum?
Written by: ElProfe This user is banned, 9 Oct 2009 5:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Jarabacoa
dreadlocks, don't worry thay are Bush / Chaney Supporters. Josean works at the Bush Ranch in Crawford Texas shoveling horse shit for a living.
Written by: josean, 9 Oct 2009 6:11 PM
From: United States
No I actually support Sarah Failing!
Written by: josean, 9 Oct 2009 6:15 PM
From: United States
dead,

I guess some people fail to understand tongue in cheek humor, and I always thought the fresh air of Jarabacoa improved brain function, but then that would require you to have one!
Written by: hellborn25, 9 Oct 2009 7:27 PM
From: United States, new jersey
I know the bailout mess was caused by the former coke sniffing retarded president bush , bush is the reason why the united states its on its knees . this is man who pass a law without congress aproveva the patriot act,.but I dont get how obama wins the nobel peace price , what has he done . nothing nada . what the yes we can line seal the deal for the nobel peace price
Written by: walnut, 9 Oct 2009 7:56 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Most in the US are laughing about Obama winning.
His game is becoming very transparent. Words will win debates but not world conflicts.
The vote for the Nobel prize was months ago and based on expectations.

I love all the Bush bashing as the reason Obama wins the award. Didn't Arafat win this joke of an award? He was a terrorist and a murderer. Aother great choice was Carter...worst US pres eve.r

As for the current economic situation....all you Einsteins are not looking at the prospective health care plan and second stimulus that will place the US in 5 trillion dollar debt. That is not Bush based. That's five thousand billion!! And to pay for it, they will just print the money.

And please, Bush was a horrible joke but Obama is really not much better. He would lose the election if it was today against a competent opponent. Several of the Dems are moving away from him to protect themselves in the next election
Written by: derek, 9 Oct 2009 9:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic
How negative can you critics??? Why are your cups 3/4's empty??

Think positive. Bush is gone, thank the lord. Obama needs all the support he can get going forward.

Bush was negative, just like the Apartheid regime in South Africa, focusing on power and control.

Obama focuses on the future, on the Freedom the DR lost under Trujillo, Like SA lost under Verwoerd. The Freedom Cuba still lacks. We all need need freedom, and the power of WOMEN, like the Mirabel sisters fought for.

No, he has achieved little yet to justify the award, BUT he has given the World hope that the USA will again the the leader of FREEDOM
Written by: josean, 9 Oct 2009 9:48 PM
From: United States
A black man who has a name like Barrack Hussein Obama after 9/11, who beats the Clinton machine, Rush Dumba, Sean Insanity, Mark the Scream and John Mc Lame deserves not one but two Nobel Prizes!
Written by: walnut, 9 Oct 2009 10:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Did you know that the nominations for the "prize" were due to the committee on February 2, 2009.
and the win was based on expectation?

Lets all join hands and sing campfire songs, too.
Might as well invite Chavez, the Castros, Ahmadidijean/Khamenei, Kim, Mugabe and Qaddafi for a marshmallow roast.

In the law of the jungle, the weak become prey.
Obama whets the appetites of the world's worst dictators....just look how they fear him with their actions.

Peace? Right!
Written by: josean, 9 Oct 2009 10:11 PM
From: United States
walnut you live up to half your name, unfortunately its the last half; NUT!
Written by: mrios, 10 Oct 2009 9:41 AM
From: United States
PEACE PRIZE.....ARE YOU KIDDING.
One negotiates threw power not weakness.
No more anti missile defense system in Europe and nothing in exchange. Meanwhile Iran is pressed to rush in the development of a nuclear bomb and new instability in the Middle East to new heights.
Oh'Blama's prize in U.S apologizes, U.S economic ruin, U.S Military weakness, Olympic failure. I can only wonder if the Committee felt sorry for Him, then to claim He was surprised, yeah right !. CHANGE from Iraq to Afghanistan, it gives the Nobel Peace Prize new meaning.

Walnut,
Great points.
Example: in 2007 Big AL GROSS beat a Holocaust Hero. I'll post the Glenn Beck commentary as soon as I find it, Sad & Shocking.
Written by: mrios, 10 Oct 2009 10:24 AM
From: United States
To ALL,
Sorry ! I was unable to find "Irena's story" as told by Glenn Beck on youtube which originally aired on the Glenn Beck show on 5-13-08.

A truly sad commentary by Glenn Beck regarding the 2007 winner Al Gross of the Noble Peace Prize against "Irena" a real Holocaust Hero.

Humanity/Peace vs. Global Warming/Ecology, leaves one to wonder.....

Has the Noble Peace Prize Committee lost it's true meaning ? and sucking up to the Oh'Blama popularity bandwagon.
Written by: Milos This user is banned, 10 Oct 2009 12:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Nobel Price for communist-health-plan-disaster-economy-war-in-afghanistan.

Who's that Nobel anyway?

Is that a nobel price or prize?
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2009 12:47 PM
From: United States
does anyone here read, or comprehend?

OSLO.- In awarding (United States president Barack) Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, the Norwegian committee is honoring his intentions more than his achievements, the BBC Website reports

INTENTIONS, fellows. INTENTIONS. it has nothing to do with a health care plan. it has nothing to do with a stimulus plan. it has nothing to do with just America, although some of you think it should. it is a PEACE PRIZE, for God's sake. peace between countries and nations. apparently, they see his direction as a departure from Republican bellicosity and isolationism, and as an attempt to obviate the need for people to go to war. and ,Milos, if my reading of history serves me right, he never started any wars. he was left with the afghanistan debacle by George Bush. then again, Josean, with a name like Barrack Hussein Obama, he will never get credit for anything from some quarters. maybe he should change his name to something like Chad Pierpoint, or similar.
Written by: walnut, 10 Oct 2009 1:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Awarding a prize based on expectation is not usual.
It is like giving an Olympic gold medal to the person with the most potential.
To many in the world, Mr. Obama represents a breath of fresh air compared to the stale air of the past.... certainly to the group who think peace comes through appeasement.
If the whole world had shared values, Mr Obama's "intentions" would be worthy. When enemies exist with the power of total annihialtion, who seek death as much as we seek life, intention must be linked with strength and conviction.
I pray Obama's plan for peace brings enormous rewards. However, dealing with deceitful dictators is not easy and requires more than talk.
Written by: Paladino444, 10 Oct 2009 2:11 PM
From: United States
What a joke, typical liberal politics. Let me explain...liberalism is all about what feels good..it is emotion not rational.

This is a perfect example of the stupidity of liberalism.
Written by: Paladino444, 10 Oct 2009 2:11 PM
From: United States
What a joke, typical liberal politics. Let me explain...liberalism is all about what feels good..it is emotion not rational.

This is a perfect example of the stupidity of liberalism.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2009 2:22 PM
From: United States
"When enemies exist with the power of total annihialtion,"

walnut,

Could you identify these enemies?
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2009 2:48 PM
From: United States
walnut, in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE , there is a basic difference between EXPECTATION and INTENTION . very basic.
Written by: Milos This user is banned, 10 Oct 2009 3:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic
a friend of mine, arch. Verigic told me that he would like a Nobel prize for medicine, as he has intention to find a cure for herpes.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2009 3:53 PM
From: United States
a response befitting the genius of Milos. maybe, if your friend gets off the bar stool at Bavaro, and actually does something tangible, he might receive consideration for something.
Written by: Milos This user is banned, 10 Oct 2009 4:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic
So to get to the point, without jokes and stuff,

on the page:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wash....09-03-26-afghanistan-troops_N.htm
you can see Graphic of total US troop levels in the World, Gray line is Afghanistan troops.
How the blue line has INTENTION to drop (FEB 27, 2011 year) troops from IRAQ.

I told to my wife, a Dominican DR, and she like Obama, I told her that we are about to see a new war, as that's how US is making money. Putting noses in other countries.

Obama added 4000 troops, and 17,000 more in August.

So who is joking who?
Ko koga zeza bre?
Koji Nobel kakvi bakraci.
Written by: dreadlocks, 10 Oct 2009 4:46 PM
From: United States
where are we about to see a "new war"?
Written by: walnut, 10 Oct 2009 10:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Josean...
I think that a) North Korea would be considered an enemy and b) a nuclear weapon that they possess would be annihilating wherever it landed, totally man.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2009 11:23 PM
From: United States
walnut,

North Korea can not even feed its people and you are seriously believing the right wing, Rush Dumba, Sean Insanity, and Mark the Scream, build ratings paranoid hype, that they are about to take out Hawaii!

Remember what President Eisenhower said is his farewell address “Beware of the Military-Industrial Complex” and I would add and their paid megaphones in the right wing scare everybody media-complex!

Come on you got to do better than that!

Please try again

"When enemies exist with the power of total annihialtion,"



Could you identify these enemies?
Written by: mrios, 10 Oct 2009 11:32 PM
From: United States
I see, I get it now......By Oh'Blama not getting involved in the Iranian election situation by being Peaceful and quiet and diverting an internal revolutionary War which could have brought CHANGE and HOPE to the Iranian People.....and by keeping His lips shut regarding the early Lockerby Terrorist release, He single handed diverted two possible Wars.....Thus the Noble PEACE Prize.....How fitting.
Also regarding Oh'Blama's Peace Prize money we can tax the hell out to help pay for the Stimulus TAX bill...or maybe threw the kindness of His Heart he'll donate "DA MOONEY" to His surviving Family in Africa.....or help pay for His Aunts Emigration Legal bills.
Written by: josean, 10 Oct 2009 11:52 PM
From: United States
Hey Miros,

Who normalised relations with Lybia?

Oh, since you have conveniently forgotten let me remind, Little Mr. Rightwing revisionist:

The normalization of U.S.-Libya relations is a natural marriage of an American administration desperate for friends and oil in the Middle East and a government that needs to open its economy to the outside world, Arab and exiled Libyan observers said Monday.

The announcement Monday by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was called proof that promotion of democracy is no longer a top priority of the Bush administration, which is grappling to hold Iraq together and has turned attention toward building alliances against a hostile Iran over its nuclear program. Libya has been ruled by Moammar Khadafy since he seized power in 1969.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/art..../16/MNGVRISE3L1.DTL#ixzz0TavYUQTd


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/art....e=/c/a/2006/05/16/MNGVRISE3L1.DTL
Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 10:40 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Ok Josean

What about Russia? Are we as a world placating them because of oil? Should we extend that same courtesy to the Iranians? Who pas this aura to the Syrians?


Naive, peace lovers ( I was once an idealistic, hippie who only wanted Peace, Now), do not understand the precipice the world is on now.

A weak US, made weaker by an apologist President, is not good for the world.

Unless, you seek a world led by the UN and its mentality.
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2009 10:45 AM
From: United States
( I was once an idealistic, hippie who only wanted Peace, Now),

So what do you attribute the frying of your Brain into a right wing NUT, the LSD or the Quaaludes?
Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 10:45 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Oh Josean,
I forgot Pakistan...where the Taliban rebels came within 50 miles of capturing the nuclear arsenal of this country.
You worry about the Metro.
I will worry about nuclear devices placed in midtown Manhattan, London and Paris.

Go sing campfire songs and roast marshmallows!
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2009 10:49 AM
From: United States
walnut, there is no such thing as "a weak US." any country which possesses its stockpile of nuclear weapons cannot be considered weak. and you have this simplistic view that countries with one rustic weapon, with underdeveloped delivery systems, is going to blow away Houston. you might underestimate their intelligence, but some of us do not. North Korean leaders are more astute than you give them credit for. the way to deal with them is not to exhibit fear and loathing, because they use that to their advantage. just remind them that a well placed 100 megaton bomb just about ends their civilisation for the next thousand years. besides, i think they know that. but, i hardly expect rational arguments from people who like to use the terms lefty and liberal.
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2009 10:51 AM
From: United States
Fomer Hippie NUT,

The United Sates has nothing to fear from ANY country in the world period, much less 16th century fanatical religious fundamentalist!

Remember what ole Franklin D, said the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

Fear is a tool used to manipulate the masses and sell us products and repression.
Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 10:51 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Read the editorial in today's NY Times by Friedman...
"there is no peace without peacekeepers".
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2009 10:56 AM
From: United States
walnut, what is your opinion of a peacekeeper? do you consider someone who tries to negotiate peace to be less of a peacekeeper than someone who threatens to beat the crap out of everybody? how much peace did the last republican administration give us?
Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 10:58 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Please, do not call me a lefty.

My grandfather was a well known socialist, my father a victim of McCarthyism.

I am not some kid with idealistic notions.

I fear the world is heading toward oblivion and Obama just speeds the process.

Forget the past. New world order has new rules.

We are battling against those who seek death as we seek life. Not a nation but a fanatical religious doctrine.

In the DR, the problems are localized. Bad governance, corruption, drug trafficking, horrible infrastructure and incompetence of all authorities.

In the world that I inhabit, the problems are global.

Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 11:00 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Peacekeepers tend to walk softly and carry a big stick.
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2009 11:02 AM
From: United States
"I fear the world is heading toward oblivion and Obama just speeds the process.

In the world that I inhabit, the problems are global."


Come my son lay on the couch,

Now how long have you had these fears, parnoias, and the feeling that the whole world is agianst you?


Written by: mrios, 11 Oct 2009 11:13 AM
From: United States
"Josean Da Chosen"
Didn't Bush started some relations with Libya before leaving Office.
Oh'Blama just went one step ahead. One has to step lightly, Libya like Iran have supported International Terrorism for years. If one thinks by mending relations with Libya to some how pressure Iran on their development of Nuclear weapons....THINK AGAIN.
When it comes to Arab Nations the common bond they always fall back and are the same bonds that bond them together in the first place, which is RELIGION. In there minds we will always be characterized as INFIDELS no matter who's in Office.
I asked Friends who are Muslim if American Conservatism or Liberalism is the enemy of Islam...and his answer was Liberalism [Man's rules] with Liberal Life styles, in short this life style will only convince their masses of the image the U.S "THE GREAT SATAN".
IRAN believes that by destroying Israel it will usurer the coming of Allah, as per the Koran.
READ BETWEEN THE LINES.

Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 11:25 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
For Josean and Dread,

Read Drudge for about a week and see the "real" world and its threats. You folks sit in a vacuum where you must imagine everyone is the same.

I am not paranoid. I just see the facts and make personal observations based on logic.

Never did Qualudes. Not a smoker. Not a doper. Don't even drink Imperial or Presidentes.

I get high on health, my family and sunshine.

Obama has not done anything to win a Nobel prize. That is the thread here.

Please defend his winning the peace prize, not attacking me and my opinion.
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2009 11:26 AM
From: United States
miros,

The Glen Beck understudy,

I am sure, like you television guru, you trying to make a point in all that right wing broken record repetition rhetoric, but unfortunately it escapes me!
Written by: josean, 11 Oct 2009 11:30 AM
From: United States
"Read Drudge"

It would have been easier to treat you if you had taken LSD and Ludes than to cleasnse you of the barinwashing from that self-hating homosexual!
Written by: mrios, 11 Oct 2009 11:42 AM
From: United States
Josean Da Chosen
Just so know I'll a Liberal Conservative not Republican....People label you to excuse you...Why am I not surprised ! I'm so far right I've gone full circle, imagine that.
I don't hate "Loco Lefty's" I find there Ideologies amusing. It's like living a lie what if what if, then making another lie to defend the first lie and so on and so on.
I'll be the first to say .......
Why are Liberals afraid of REALITY CHECKS and the WHOLE TRUTH not just sound bites?
If anything this ping pong/tennis match between YOU and I is not aimed at you personally but at those who read and would say...that mrios guy is some what wrong but does bring out some interesting points, and to always question there Government, 9-12 PRINCIPLES. After all only blind Men need leading.
I'll leave you with this....
After over 9 Months in Office can you think of any more Problems we can blame BUSH with ?
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2009 11:44 AM
From: United States
walnut suggests that i read Drudge. sorry, walnut. i prefer to read intelligent people. and, for the nth time, Obama got the prize based on INTENTIONS AND WORLDVIEW, not accomplishments. and, as i said before, the people who give the Nobel Prize have the right to decide the criteria upon which they award the prize. when i own the deck of cards, i get to decide whether we play Texas Hold Em or Go Fish.
Written by: Milos This user is banned, 11 Oct 2009 12:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Well, I lived in Lybia for several years.
They do not have any major problems there as they have petrol, and tourism is prohibited by the law - no tourists.
Also, they have a law that you can not buy more than one car per month.
Asphalt streets are in perfect order, even if you go deep in the Sahara, lets say visiting a military camp.
Libyans simply hate US as the entity. It is a part of their politic, it is a part of Gadhafi speeches: El Arabia Fatah, el Fatah Abadan! Arabia teshabia, etc.

Libya never supported a terrorism, except its own terrorism. Other Arabic countries are not very friendly with Libya, as Libya is Socialist Peoples Libyan Arab Jamahiria. (something as Venezuela in Latin World). And Gadhafi is as crazy as Chavez. But has more sophisticated politic. There is not alcohol in that country or pig meat, so forget about chicharones. Leonel went there to get money, but failed.
Last attempt of Dominican Republic to make relations with Libya was with Mr. Fafa Taveras
Written by: Milos This user is banned, 11 Oct 2009 12:30 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Dread, you have Texas Hold Em, in Casino Towers

When you say intention, would you consider your self for a Nobel Prize for Posting on Dominican Today, or a beginner who has only few posts and intention to post.

Accomplishments is what count the most.

Would you give a Nobel Prize to Leonel that accomplished the Metro, or he had intention to make it?

Somehow intention comes first, and then you do something. Finally you Accomplish it.
And then you get a prize.
Another example, a track race with Felix Sanchez, and race starts and Felix do not run but has intention to do it. At the end he did not win, he did not Accomplished the race, but had a good damn intention to do it.
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2009 2:28 PM
From: United States
speaking of races, Milos. i cannot remember the particular olympics, but in the 400 meters, the Trinidadian runner broke down and fell to the track. his father, who was watching the race in the stands, ran to the track, helped his son to his feet, and they crossed the finish line together. he did not win the race, so, in the minds of simpletons, he did not achieve anything. but, he INTENDED to win, or, at the very least, make a respectable showing. he did not pull over to the side when his muscles started tightening, and he was becoming distressed. and, all the INTELLIGENT people in the stands realised what he INTENDED to do. so, stop asking me idiotic, esoteric, mind twisters. as i said before, the prize is the property of the Nobel Committee, not Milos and his bunch of naysayers. if they want to award it to a guy who breaks up a bar fight, so be it. they do not need the approval of Anti-Obama crowds. if it grieves you that much, get your own prize and award it with your criteria.
Written by: walnut, 11 Oct 2009 5:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Homeless
Debating with those who drink the kool-aid of "peace" is a hopeless as negotiating with Iran or the Palestinians.
There is only appeasement.

Naive thinking in the 30's caused a World War II.
Naive thinking today could lead to armageddon.

Loving the "deeds" of Obama is flawed thinking. There are no deeds yet, only rhetoric and air.

And from what I have read, Soros bought the Nobel prize months ago for the Messiah.

Any Peace prize given to Arafat is a horrible joke anyway.
Written by: dreadlocks, 11 Oct 2009 5:23 PM
From: United States
walnut reveals this tidbit

And from what I have read, Soros bought the Nobel prize months ago for the Messiah.

and you wonder why Manhattanite characterises DT board as "the ghetto of the internet'!





Written by: josean, 12 Oct 2009 12:21 PM
From: United States
mrios,

I promise to someday learn the language you write in cause it appears that you are trying very hard to be understood!
Written by: josean, 12 Oct 2009 12:23 PM
From: United States
walnut,

Please try again, I think I missed your response.

"When enemies exist with the power of total annihialtion,"



Could you identify these enemies?
Written by: mrios, 12 Oct 2009 6:04 PM
From: United States
"Josean Da Chosen"
It's simple.....first you have to open your heart and Mind to see over and beyond the Hill, then in your case....something Mystical happens....You come to your Logical "Common Sense". I did over 30 years ago.
Written by: josean, 17 Oct 2009 3:03 PM
From: United States
Nobel update!

http://www.diariolibre.com/noticias_det.php?id=219748
Written by: mrios, 17 Oct 2009 11:07 PM
From: United States
"Josean Da Chosen"
I'll put the paper work in for you and your Friend Sean Penn's nomination for the 2010 Nobel Prize....for being your selves, you both are a sure winner these days.
Have you visited Hugo-a-go-go in Venezuela lately ?
Written by: josean, 17 Oct 2009 11:15 PM
From: United States
"Josean Da Chosen"

You know that kind of has nice ring to it, its starting to grow on me!
Written by: mrios, 18 Oct 2009 8:30 AM
From: United States
"Josean Da Chosen",
Why thank you, I originally though of adding "ONE" at the end but CHANGEd my mind at the last minute with the HOPE you might like it.
Oh ! and that Glenn Beck thing........It's kinda nice makes one sort of proud, minus the blond hair and skin color.
As the old saying goes.....
"THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN NOTHING, WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING" and I might add "ALL THE TIME".
Take care.
Written by: miloskoracbanned, 21 Aug 2011 11:02 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Hi Dread,

He did not started any War?

Nobel was inventor of Dynamite, his two companies are still working.

NAZI Gen Rommel was wrong, NATO is wrong, LIBYA WILL STAY FREE
Written by: miloskoracbanned, 21 Aug 2011 11:04 AM
From: Dominican Republic
"Who normalised relations with Lybia? " - Said Josean

Certainly NOT Hussein (MU) Barak Obama.
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