San Juan.– A jury in Puerto Rico has acquitted
three police officers of federal civil rights charges in the beating of
a Dominican-born U.S. Marine. The trial in the attack on Sgt.
Yonatta Crispin has highlighted long-running claims of police
discrimination toward Dominicans in the U.S. territory.
Crispin,
a 32-year-old Iraq war veteran who was
born in the Dominican Republic and currently works as a Marine
recruiter in Puerto Rico, said he did nothing to provoke police aside from wearing a Dominican
baseball cap to a game between Puerto Rico and its top Caribbean rival.
But
defense attorneys said Crispin was drunk and rowdy, and the officers
used an appropriate level of force to remove him from the stadium.
Crispin called the verdict a defeat for the rights of
Dominicans. "Now the police have got a green light to
assault Dominicans and get away with it," he said. "It's not only about
me, it's about the Dominican community."
The brawl came in the late innings a Caribbean Series match on
Feb. 4, 2007, with the Dominican national team well on its way to a
12-0 victory.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
this sgt will not be recruiting anymore Marines in Puerto Rico and will soon be on his way to Afghanistan
From: Dominican Republic
Don't Puerto Rican feds use brutality against Puerto Ricans, Haitians and Cubans, too?
From: United States
Police in Puerto Rico have an extensive track record of brutality against their population, but it is even more pronounce against immigrant groups residing on the island, particulary those who lack the economic resources and sofistication to maneuver in and around the complexities of the criminal justice system.
The police practically have defacto inmunity to protect themselves in case of any wrong doing among their ranks. In order for a victim to receive justice, it must be a clear cut, black and white case against the police, otherwise, it is next to impossible to win. Therefore, unless one wishes to be a martyr, in case of a conflict with police officers, it is best to kiss their ass, because all odds are against you. Otherwise, You will mostly likely get beat up and have the greastest chance to lose a case if it ever goes to court. The police and the prosecuters are in cohoots with each other. That is the reality in the US, but even more so in most other parts of the world
Written by: Trujillo, 28 Mar 2009 4:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Those police officers should come and visit Santo Domingo.
Written by: antonioj, 28 Mar 2009 6:13 PM
From: Canada, home safe
Can someome tell me how is the picture related to the story ????
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Sadly, this is something that happens more often than not in hotly contested sports. It doesn't have to involve ethnic groups necessarily, and generally team allegiance and fervor, spurred by alcohol consumption, prevail over reason. We've seen this in civilized Western European countries, where people are constantly assaulted or even killed in some instances during important country versus country competition. Heck, in Luxembourg [where I spend a great deal of time] there is a caged and separate entrance to the stadium with the caption: "British Fans Only".
I have seen similar actions here in America during hot contests between the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees. I could also cite similar occurrences in other parts of the world. Let's not elevate this any further and incite unnecessary racial wars, particularly when we've heard only one side of the story. Clearly, there was alcohol involved here, and we often forget upon sobering much of what we've done inebriated.
From: Dominican Republic
If it has happened in DR, it would been called "Human Rights Abuse." But to pick one out of a crowd puts weight into the defense argument. This however, doesn't take away from police and immigration officers abuse in PR.
This is same kind of beating hispanics get in the U.S.! What about the beating the Dominican national team took at the hand of the Netherland's baseball team?
From: United States, Fresh Water Paradise-NY Finger Lakes
Letrou,
"...What about the beating the Dominican national team took at the hand of the Netherland's baseball team?"
Man, that was not only bad but also ugly!!!!
Written by: antonio1, 28 Mar 2009 11:43 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
letroudeballeGeneroso, LOL.
Written by: ElBiPi, 29 Mar 2009 12:06 AM
From: Dominican Republic
"Can someome tell me how is the picture related to the story ????"
The Dominican was beat up during a DR vs. PR baseball game.
Written by: pelaut, 29 Mar 2009 7:50 AM
From: United States
My Dominican wife and I lived in PR many years. The discrimination against Dominicans there is worse than the old South in which I was raised. Furthermore the PR police are just the same as the DR police, so take it from there.
Written by: ABR23, 29 Mar 2009 9:01 AM
From: Puerto Rico
Ok, so the DR police would have shot him and called it, intercambio de disparos.
It's a hard sell, to say that a MARINE who had 5 beers ( testimony), was docile and compliant when instructed by police.
The FBI presented the case, but it has proven like the charges against the Ex-Governer, that just because the FEDS say so, it may not be as true or as bad as they say.
People in PR are starting to "PAY ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND HE CURTAIN".
From: United States
Crispin called the verdict a defeat for the rights of Dominicans. "Now the police have got a green light to assault Dominicans and get away with it," he said. "It's not only about me, it's about the Dominican community."
0000
Great !@!!!
Written by: antonioj, 29 Mar 2009 11:34 AM
From: Canada, home safe
Written by: ABR23, 29 Mar 2009 12:52 PM
From: Puerto Rico
Well, the problem with violence in the PR Police is not just Dom Rep citizens. The Most recent case is where an officer shot anoter under blurry circumstances in the Station House 1 week ago. Last year a Sgt. Shot a Lieutenant, he had problems with for several years also in the Station house. A married couple both Police Officers, shot and killed their in laws (her family) Dad, Mom, sister in law and brother (only survivor).
I am not saying they do not have a problem, they do. But every officer and every incident is not police brutality. The jury found that the "victim" contributed to his situation by 1 not obeying the order to disperse and move. 2. confronting the officers with I know my rights. 3. When told he was under arrest risisting the arrest. This set in place the use of force, to effect the arrest.
He tried to play a race card which had no bearing on it. Had he been a Puerto Rican, he would had his butt beat just the same. happens every day.
From: United States
Discrimination and abuse are no good, whether it's Porto Rican on Dominican, or Dominican on Haitian, or Black on white, or American (from the mainland) on Porto Rican.
The psychological profile of an abuser is one who feels empowered in the face of someone else that's perceived at a weaker or disadvantaged position due to his/her immigration status, color, wealth, education. It's a disease they call "Feeling-better-than-you-Makes-Me-Feel-empowered". It's a sickness of the mind that the sadistic white devils in the South suffer. That's why they used to take pleasure lynching black people every Sunday after church service.
From: United States
antonioj,
Here's a thread about Puerto-rican discrimination against Dominican
http://www.puertorico.com/forums/....e-against-dominican-brothers.htmlYou are correct, they don't want us there but it's ok for them to take all of the aide the US gives them (welfare, wic, etc.) and they are US citizens for one thing, but they are a 100% boricua
and owners of there island for another, like not wanting Dominicans, lol
Written by: xwill7, 30 Mar 2009 10:48 AM
From: United States, Chicago
Dominican Rodney King???
From: United States
Why can't we all just get along?
I know my skin might be too dark, no no my accent, no my hair is curly, no wait maybe because my eyes are brown.
From: United States
I would love for those P'cans to come visit DR and for the Dominican police to treat them with the same common courtesy and respect that they demonstrate back in their island. Pay back is a bitch.
Written by: xwill7, 30 Mar 2009 11:22 AM
From: United States, Chicago
Dominicans own most of the small businesses in PR. Pay back has begun...
From: United States
Written by: xwill7, 30 Mar 2009 11:22 AM
From: United States, Chicago
Dominicans own most of the small businesses in PR. Pay back has begun...
You are correct, that was one of the biggest complaint, they say the island is too small,and that one day there will be none of them there. maybe because they are all in the USA? LOL
Not are fault if we are hard workers in all we do.
Written by: xwill7, 30 Mar 2009 11:54 AM
From: United States, Chicago
Soon PR will be called DR East
Written by: ABR23, 30 Mar 2009 5:07 PM
From: Puerto Rico
What u talking about,this is already the D.R. with a dollar economy.
Written by: ABR23, 31 Mar 2009 6:35 PM
From: Puerto Rico
By the way see what they did to a Dom Rep citizen. www.7dias.com.do . At least in PR the Judicial goes after the cops.
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The police practically have defacto inmunity to protect themselves in case of any wrong doing among their ranks. In order for a victim to receive justice, it must be a clear cut, black and white case against the police, otherwise, it is next to impossible to win. Therefore, unless one wishes to be a martyr, in case of a conflict with police officers, it is best to kiss their ass, because all odds are against you. Otherwise, You will mostly likely get beat up and have the greastest chance to lose a case if it ever goes to court. The police and the prosecuters are in cohoots with each other. That is the reality in the US, but even more so in most other parts of the world
I have seen similar actions here in America during hot contests between the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees. I could also cite similar occurrences in other parts of the world. Let's not elevate this any further and incite unnecessary racial wars, particularly when we've heard only one side of the story. Clearly, there was alcohol involved here, and we often forget upon sobering much of what we've done inebriated.
This is same kind of beating hispanics get in the U.S.! What about the beating the Dominican national team took at the hand of the Netherland's baseball team?
"...What about the beating the Dominican national team took at the hand of the Netherland's baseball team?"
Man, that was not only bad but also ugly!!!!
The Dominican was beat up during a DR vs. PR baseball game.
It's a hard sell, to say that a MARINE who had 5 beers ( testimony), was docile and compliant when instructed by police.
The FBI presented the case, but it has proven like the charges against the Ex-Governer, that just because the FEDS say so, it may not be as true or as bad as they say.
People in PR are starting to "PAY ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND HE CURTAIN".
0000
Great !@!!!
http://www.puertorico.com/forums/....e-against-dominican-brothers.html
I am not saying they do not have a problem, they do. But every officer and every incident is not police brutality. The jury found that the "victim" contributed to his situation by 1 not obeying the order to disperse and move. 2. confronting the officers with I know my rights. 3. When told he was under arrest risisting the arrest. This set in place the use of force, to effect the arrest.
He tried to play a race card which had no bearing on it. Had he been a Puerto Rican, he would had his butt beat just the same. happens every day.
The psychological profile of an abuser is one who feels empowered in the face of someone else that's perceived at a weaker or disadvantaged position due to his/her immigration status, color, wealth, education. It's a disease they call "Feeling-better-than-you-Makes-Me-Feel-empowered". It's a sickness of the mind that the sadistic white devils in the South suffer. That's why they used to take pleasure lynching black people every Sunday after church service.
Here's a thread about Puerto-rican discrimination against Dominican
http://www.puertorico.com/forums/....e-against-dominican-brothers.html
You are correct, they don't want us there but it's ok for them to take all of the aide the US gives them (welfare, wic, etc.) and they are US citizens for one thing, but they are a 100% boricua
and owners of there island for another, like not wanting Dominicans, lol
I know my skin might be too dark, no no my accent, no my hair is curly, no wait maybe because my eyes are brown.
From: United States, Chicago
Dominicans own most of the small businesses in PR. Pay back has begun...
You are correct, that was one of the biggest complaint, they say the island is too small,and that one day there will be none of them there. maybe because they are all in the USA? LOL
Not are fault if we are hard workers in all we do.