New Jersey.– Juan Ortiz, of Dominican origin, was sentenced to five to 18 months in prison for beating his son with a wooden banister as a punishment for a handful of thefts, which he claimed is acceptable in his native country.
Northampton County Judge William Moran called the act "horrendous" and said the sentence was "sufficient to impress upon the defendant the kind of discipline that may be deemed appropriate in his former country is unacceptable in this society."
Moran made Ortiz eligible for work release so he can continue supporting his family, and he also ordered Ortiz to attend anger management classes and pay court costs. The sentencing does not mark the end of the Ortiz's legal problems. Defense attorney Raymond Lynn said Ortiz is in the country on a green card and now faces possible deportation.
Yanira Arias-Ortiz, Ortiz's wife and mother of the beaten child, is facing trial next week on felony aggravated assault and related charges. Arias-Ortiz is accused of holding the boy's hands in boiling water after he told a county caseworker his father was still living with the family. Ortiz was ordered to stay away from his son and the house after the beating.
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Now the little brat has no one, both his parents will be deported....
He won't like foster care at all....
And I doubt that family will take the child in.
WOW! What a story, I definitely believe the child will regret this in the future.
From: United States, Angola prison Louisiana
the boy after much consultation will be put under the collective care and custody of the Chicago Cubs because they havent beaten anybody in a hundred years
From: United States
touche, Toxic Avenger
From: United States
i am all for discipline, but beating your child with a wooden banister is a little medieval, don't you think?
Written by: BASTA, 8 Apr 2009 10:04 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
My cousin had the same problem when his son 13 called the police for getting a whipping. He spent the weekend in jail. Anyway 6 months later the family goes to SD. So there we were 3 uncles in the parking lot we beat the crap out of him were as he was told to call the police now! He still resides here with all our great values.
Written by: yumnuk3, 8 Apr 2009 11:34 PM
From: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨
This is a perfect example of why immigrants do not like to corporate in cases of domestic abuse.... you create one problem by trying to correct another.
From: United States, UTAH
this is the big problem here in the united states thats is why there are so many rats in this country .
when i was a little kid i did not dare to steal cause my father would kill me.
thats is why i am the man that i am ;
i have never been in jail,i have never used drugs,thanks to my father belts.
if one of my kids would still here i will pay the passage to santo domingo just to smack the sh........t out of him.
From: United States
This is the problem with American children they say if their parents or anyone touches them in any way they will call the cops. The parent are responsible for the child even if the kid runs away. The parent can complain to the police or anyone they want but they get locked up for what their kid does but cannot hit them even in extreme cases where the kid needs it.
I am 100% against child abuse but some of these unruly kids need to be given the belt. Maybe that would fix some of the problems we have today in America.
Written by: brootto, 9 Apr 2009 11:23 AM
From: United States, South West Florida
look that is the reasons these kids are going buck wild they have the backup of the goverment, in back in the day in dr your neighbor and everyone else will get in line to give you a whipping and then your father after everyone was done, i turn out to be ok and so many of my friends.
Written by: MannyTav, 9 Apr 2009 11:25 AM
From: United States
I think we can all agree the father went overboard with the wooden bannister. There are other ways to discipline a child. You can spank your child, etc., you just can't wail away with a wooden bannister or a belt buckle; that is simply abuse. I have a fourteen year old son who's feeling his oats and there are moments when you want to knock him out, but those are the moments when you have to step back, take a break and the get back tio discipline him at a later time when you're more in control of your emotions. Unfortunately the whole family is going to suffer because the children's protective services will be involved and the State will look to remove the child from the home if the mother has willfully allowed the father to live with them, which appears to be the case. There are no winners in this scenario.
Written by: brootto, 9 Apr 2009 11:35 AM
From: United States, South West Florida
I would do what my uncle did with his, he was acting up in school over in new york and told his father if ye touch him he would call 911. His father pretended that everything was fine in the summer bought him a plane ticket to dr and gave him a whipping everyday the whole two week that he was there. the kid graduated from NYU, how about that.
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
It appears that the father is probably repeating the style of disipline that he recieved from his father. Basically teaching him that pysical violance is the correct thing to do, simalar to torture in prisons.
The child probably didn't recieve propper disipline starting when he was an infant and now the father applies wholesale physical abuse as if to change the boys behavior in a matter of minuites.
Now the child has deep emotional scars and the family will be split up try to protect the boy from an out of control parent that could one day kill him.
I would like to know the rest of the story of some one putting the boys hands in boiling water, what's next hot oil thrown on the child or setting him on fire? These parents are unqualified to raise a child.
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
Why is it that a person must have a liscense to drive a car, be a doctor, a lawyer, fly a plane but to create another human life that didn't ask to be born to suffer and can't defend itself you just have to assimalate a dog in the street and presto, instant baby!
There is nothing more valuable than a human life. High schools should teach planned parenthood and the responsability of being a parent before anothe life is created by ignorant parents, or better said children having children.
Written by: xwill7, 9 Apr 2009 2:01 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
Do not spank your kids in the grocery store.. Wait until you get home, or in your car if you have tinted windows....
Written by: hvargas, 9 Apr 2009 2:15 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Violance creates violance. I was never hit with a belt or a stick and I turned out just fine. I never ever hit my sons, they get hit by their mother. I preffer that she hits them from time to time when they missed behaved. The oldest will graduate this year from the University in San Pedro De Macoris ( UCE ). My formed of punishment is taking away something that is important to my sons or not letting them out of their room. Punishment with love is more effectived than punishment with hate and blames. In D.R. many parents are in needs of learning this in order to reduced the violance that is taking place in D.R.
Written by: Trujillo, 9 Apr 2009 2:57 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I agree with spanking, no hippies, that's not "abuse". I've seen children smack their mothers on tv in the U.S., and the mother can't do anything because she would be send to jail for child "abuse". We didn't have this type of violence in the D.R. until recently, so don't blame spanking for that. They should come to the DR with the little thief and once here destroy his passport.
Written by: xwill7, 9 Apr 2009 3:11 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
He should have pulled out the chanqleta de goma to finish the spanking
From: United States, MD
damn!:o....even i won't do that and im dominican...there are always other ways and methods to dicipline a child, its also messed up how the father might be deported, sucks for him,:(
From: United States, Washington, D.C.
In the African-American community we say the police & govenment will not allow you to discipline your own children so when they grow older & out of control it's easier for the police to put them in jail for life. The government needs those bodies in those jails to feed that jail industrial complex. So they make it a crime for you to spank or discipline your child. But once they are grown and running wild due to the fact that your hands are tied by the government, then the government steps in and makes slaves out of them by making their prison labor.
If the government doesn't want me to spank/discipline my child then the government should raise the child. If I have to/and should have to raise my own child, I should be able to discipline that child (without torture or abuse) the way I see fit. But the government shouldn't be able to dictate to me that I can't spank my child. I certainly think THIS situation was wrong and putting the hands in boiling water is just sick.
Written by: xwill7, 9 Apr 2009 6:28 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
El le pego mas duro que a una tambora!
Written by: Badinage, 10 Apr 2009 12:50 AM
From: United States
U.S. social policy is often an extension of corporate policy.
Unruly, undisciplined children grow up to be undisciplined and easily manipulated adults.
They cannot defer gratification, they are highly susceptible to advertising, and they fall easily into debt.
In short, they make very good "consumers."
Those who are so unruly that they cannot hold jobs or control their reproduction feed the prison and social welfare industries.
The corporate media highlights lurid tales of abuse as a means of stemming any popular movement toward a restoration of parental rights.
From: United States
I was just speaking with a Co-worker about this situation yesterday. I did not realize that a case similar to our conversation actually occured. In the US certain Child Protective Agencies really take away a lot of power from the parent and places it on the child. A child can atempt to beat the crap of his/her parent(s), but if the parent(s) do the same to the child he/she can face jail time. That's why in the US you see and hear so many stories in which kids are out of control. I think that beating the kid with a wooden banister was a little much, A good ol' fashion ass whippin should have been suffice. None the less it does not warrant the type of punishment that is being given to the father. This is truly sad. I hope that kid gets placed in the worst of foster homes in Jersey and that some of those hardened kids beat the crap out of him. That would be the least that he deserves.
From: United States
You spare the rod, you spoil the child. I got hit by belts and I turned out to be just fine. I'm a college Grad. I work as a Social Worker and I'm currently applying for college once again in order to get my Masters in Clinical Social Work. There is no way a child of mine is going to be acting out of hand and the city, state or federal government is going to tell me how I should discipline him/her. In some cases children do horrible things, that not even most adults would do and yet the law just slaps their hands gently. Leaving them to their own vyses once again. I would rather go to jail myself before I have a child of mine become a criminal and I just sit back and let it happen. A ese muchachito hay que llevarlo para RD. Esperarlo que se baje del avion y darle la paliza de su vida.
Written by: CeJota, 11 Apr 2009 1:28 PM
From: United States, Augusta Ga/ Philly Pa
The wooden banister was OK but putting his hands in boiling water was extreme. Not to sound macho but If my father had put my hands in boiling water he woulda had something coming.............Im Grandma's baby LOL
From: United States, Angola prison Louisiana
Cejota hey man will you be there today when they give out the green jacket GC asked me to ask you
Written by: agibus 
, 12 Apr 2009 10:35 AM
From: United States
In the name of human rights,Senior Ortiz is guilty and he will receive a examplar sentence.JAIL and BACK to DR .The system wins again.Morality is safe.But we have to take a look in direction of the youth.Protecting childrights,parents become criminals and children victims.OK .But criminality in schools.student shooting other students.Shoplifters young gansters young drug dealers.Tolerance is dangourous .Remember in nineties ,young american was sentenced by beating with wooden banister.Because the angel face young american was painting cars.sorry grafitiing cars but in a south asian country.President Clinton condamned this country .Diplomatic conflict.Even cancelling USassistance.Controversial opinion in US .some agreed the sentence and others not.Imperialism can't beat foreign justice.The boy received his sentence and returned to free US with pink behind and sad welcome from Bill.What happen to that kid sure he never forget the lesson and respect cars.South asian justice saved a USd
Written by: agibus , 12 Apr 2009 11:02 AM
From: United States
Snoopyy3k is right darle la paliza de su vida bajado del avion en el aeropuerto las americas.But is in reality a punishment for all the family.Back to RepDom with nothing but Senior Ortiz will start again and for sure give a good latin education to his son .
Written by: lovingit, 13 Apr 2009 12:15 PM
From: United States, Delaware
a lo carajitos hay que darle su golpeadas cuando se la merecen.. nuff said.
From: United States
Agibus, the young man that you refer to was publicly beaten with a bamboo cane in Singapore, after her was caught writing Graffiti on walls. The court decide that it was his punishment for the crime committed. Now that young man in the article above also needs to be beaten with a bamboo cane or two for his delinquent behavior. It is sickening to see that a Judge actually will have this father treated like some common criminal when he is tryimg to avoid his son from becoming one.
From: United States
snoopyy3k, in the case of Michael Fay, who was lashed in Singapore, there is wonderful irony. he was an out of control ugly American living in that country, who believed that he was above the law, especially since he was an American, and they are only chinks.(his thinking). if daddy had raised him right, he would have learned some respect. then again, the good people of Singapore did teach him some. they do not put up with crap. punks used to sticks wads of chewing gum in subway doors and jam them, for fun. so, the government passed a law that anyone caught with gum could be fined, and lashed. what happened? wrigley´s chewing gum company petitioned the US senate to take Singapore to the World Court, for trade obstruction! now,do you see why there is a criminal on every corner in the USA?
From: United States
of course I know why the US of A has criminals in every corner of the street because we raise them and then when they get out of control we want to punish them. But the interesting about this situation is that when it comes to children if the parent decides to to matters it his or her hands then they are punished like if they were the criminals.
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He won't like foster care at all....
And I doubt that family will take the child in.
WOW! What a story, I definitely believe the child will regret this in the future.
when i was a little kid i did not dare to steal cause my father would kill me.
thats is why i am the man that i am ;
i have never been in jail,i have never used drugs,thanks to my father belts.
if one of my kids would still here i will pay the passage to santo domingo just to smack the sh........t out of him.
I am 100% against child abuse but some of these unruly kids need to be given the belt. Maybe that would fix some of the problems we have today in America.
The child probably didn't recieve propper disipline starting when he was an infant and now the father applies wholesale physical abuse as if to change the boys behavior in a matter of minuites.
Now the child has deep emotional scars and the family will be split up try to protect the boy from an out of control parent that could one day kill him.
I would like to know the rest of the story of some one putting the boys hands in boiling water, what's next hot oil thrown on the child or setting him on fire? These parents are unqualified to raise a child.
There is nothing more valuable than a human life. High schools should teach planned parenthood and the responsability of being a parent before anothe life is created by ignorant parents, or better said children having children.
If the government doesn't want me to spank/discipline my child then the government should raise the child. If I have to/and should have to raise my own child, I should be able to discipline that child (without torture or abuse) the way I see fit. But the government shouldn't be able to dictate to me that I can't spank my child. I certainly think THIS situation was wrong and putting the hands in boiling water is just sick.
Unruly, undisciplined children grow up to be undisciplined and easily manipulated adults.
They cannot defer gratification, they are highly susceptible to advertising, and they fall easily into debt.
In short, they make very good "consumers."
Those who are so unruly that they cannot hold jobs or control their reproduction feed the prison and social welfare industries.
The corporate media highlights lurid tales of abuse as a means of stemming any popular movement toward a restoration of parental rights.