President Manuel Zelaya's wife, Xiomara, said she's hiding "in a mountain." Photo elnuevodiario.com.do.
SANTO DOMINGO.- Dominican Republic’s President, political parties, movements and a group of intellectuals yesterday condemned the coup against Honduras president Manuel Zelaya.
Leonel Fernandez, in a statement to the Dominican media, demanded Zelaya’s restitution and called the putsch as a backward step which violates the Organization of American States’ (OAS) Democratic Charter. “This coup d'etat must be rejected, because in the future it could have a contagion effect towards other nations of the region and return to a period of barbarism."
Foreign Relations Vice minister Clara Quiñones, who represents the Government in the meeting of ministers of the Central American Integration System (SICA), stated the Dominican people’s support for Honduras.
Written by: Juango, 29 Jun 2009 7:58 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
LF may be feeling the heat... Perhaps there is room for two at the Zelaya Villa in San Jose, CR. There may even be a 2 for 1 special this week at the place Manuel where is now sleeping. The people of Honduras expressed their displeasure of a President that pushed his authority too far. The results, Run his Ass Off ! Stop hiding behind the OAS charter, there are usless. If you really stand behind the People of Honduras, then back them ! Same goes for Iran, If you stand for Democracy & Freedom, back the protestors in the street. Term Limits for all Politicos everywhere ! Enough of the Constitutinal Referendums that give leaders opportunity of unlimited reign. Careful LF, you may be next, as the people are getting fed up with your leadership! Chavez, watch out !
Written by: mrios, 29 Jun 2009 8:07 AM
From: United States
Am I reading this Article right ?
The DR Prez condemns and demands Zelayas be reinstated.
Am I missing something ?
Is the DR and Honduras that close ?
Why was Zelayas removed in the first place ? What are the details ?
Returning to a period of Barbarism ?
WOW ! I just have to wonder....What if the DR's Prez Friends Raul Castro and Hugo-a-go-go were to meet that same fate ? Would he then condemn and demand their return to power ?
Why wasn't Zelayas voted out instead ????
What is the Honduran Citizens / Public's response to all of this ?
Could it be.... It could happen there, it can happen anywhere ?
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME. I am totally confused with lack of information.
But I will say this THANK GOD, THANK GOD it was not done threw violence or bloodshed.
A couple thoughts for the Day.
Leaders can't lead with out followers.
Leaders can lead you into it, or lead you out of it.
Leaders lead by example.
Who does the Leader serve and follow ?
From: United States
Science is never perfect because it's a product or consequence of human perception. When we place our deepest beliefs and faith on something, we follow it. If we place our beliefs upon tangible imperfection, we are less likely to develop correctly, than if we place them on intangible perfection. This is the constant struggle between science, and philosophy /spirituality / religion. What has happened in Honduras can only be analyzed technically by using the science of politics. The most imperfect of all sciences. And the results everyone is getting should be obvious. Return the democratically elected president to power. But how? If he is returned the will of the people will be restored. And the will of the people in a country like Honduras is to redistribute resources at least a little bit. And we just can't permit that now can we? When the political analyst agrees with the church, the artists, the philosophers, and the poor, I think the conclusions should be taken into consideration.
Written by: mrios, 29 Jun 2009 8:18 AM
From: United States
Juango,
If you say is true WOW ! now that's news to me.....and to think some People get payed to inform the Public. I just hope and pray the DR never follows suit, and if so...By the Ballot. A lot can be said about a Man who has been GIVEN power not by his WORDS, BUT BY HIS ACTIONS.
Take care.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
mrios ..you can read and hear all the details of the coup in BBC news ..I think everyone must condemn the action of an army that takes a decision to oust a legally elected President.
The ousted President wanted to have a referendum later this year on various constitutional changes but this was opposed by the congress who somehow got the army involved ..I would be fairly certain that there was concern by some that their tenure in power could be insecure .
The big difference here is that in Honduras the president was to seek the peoples consent by way of a ballot but in the DR the changes are made without going to a referendum.
Written by: mrios, 29 Jun 2009 8:37 AM
From: United States
Ricardolito,
THANK YOU !
I now really feel informed. I will check it out.
ALL take care.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
Another interesting point is that in various news reports the ousted President claimed he wanted to spread the wealth of the country among the poorer people but was opposed by the wealthy elite and to me the major problem in the DR is the lack of desire by the wealthy Dominicans to assist the poorer people by spreading the wealth of the country ...You can see this every day here by the lack of education , the lack of healthy environments in the poorer barios and graft at many levels of government that makes the rich richer ...
The problem in this country is that there is no party with high principles to assume control .
Written by: BASTA, 29 Jun 2009 9:13 AM
From: Dominican Republic, = Ghetto-SPM-Barrio Blanco
Fernadie you are Next! BYE
any way Mexico besides beign a political dictatorship in the past is and 6 years out! Also V.Fox would like to legalize drugs
Iran is different - God will - God will - What? Dominican V`udu,Iranian Voodoo Same shit
Written by: walnut, 29 Jun 2009 9:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic, La Romana
This story has been brewing for months. Zelaya wanted to follow in his idol Chavez's footsteps with an unconstitutional power grab. Using a similar ploy as Hugo, Zelaya sought to alter the term limit restriction. The Supreme Court, the Congress and the military were all opposed to such a referendum.
True, Zelaya's constituency are the poor and the unions. Yet, rather than govern, he was more concerned about staying in power. The laws were written to prevent despotism here. Any subversion of that law is illegal and bad for the country.
Our world has become so politically correct that we would rather publicly support a banana republic despot rather than offend Castro/Chavez/Morales. We now lay down with our enemies.
From: United States
I am a Lagunero. I was born in San Pedro, lived in La Romana, El Seybo, Samana, Santiago, Constanza, and Santo Domingo. I have seen our country grow from a corrupt dictatorship to a corrupt democracy. I agree that corruption has been a constant throughout our history, but I think it is very visible that Dominican Republic has improved enormously since Trujillo, and despite its ups and downs, it is a long way from being manipulated at election time with little bags full of candy, snacks, and a little red cap. Or hopefully from electing presidents that can barely read or hold a Presidential posture. To me, a coup at this moment in history is an embarrassment for any country in our hemisphere and I would be desolate if it happened in DR. The Honduran People without exception should demand a re-establishment of legality, and the Dominican People should unite and erradicate corruption without jeopardizing growth. He dicho.
Written by: ElProfe, 29 Jun 2009 9:53 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Jarabacoa
I think it’s just a matter of time and we will see the same thing happen here in the DR. But it won’t be the military doing the clean up. It will be the Dominican Citizens that are better armed than the military. How much more can a poor country take? We will see what happens when President Fernandez sells the oil to Chavez. People here are getting tired of getting screwed 24/7. The government buys a power plant and raises the cost of power and gives less power. Now when they sell the oil we will see the cost of gas skyrocket. Time to trade-in you motorcycle for a burro. I can just see it now, a burroconcho with five people on his back. God help us!
Written by: Juango, 29 Jun 2009 9:57 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
AMEN walnut ! You are right on the money. Listen to Obama's response via Hillary on this situation. It is amazing just how Politically Correct this world has become... btw, Zeyala won the election with <23% of the vote. there are no runoffs in Honduras. He disregarded his own Supreme Court's decision on the referendum. If a Goverment;s administration is corrupt, and at the same time does not follow the constitution of said republic, then vote them out legally, or throw them out (coup), whichever is the most expeditious. In LA, it never is quick or possible to do so legally.
Written by: Juango, 29 Jun 2009 10:02 AM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Democracy is not for everyone, in particular, those countries with a majority of uneducated citizens. Democacy is NOT, I repeat NOT an Exportable Item !!! The USA has yet to understand or learn that !
From: United States
What some see as a ploy others see as a legal means to achieve an end versus an illegal one. Voting is the legal means, using unsupported power is not. Chavez is supported by the people that follow him. They VOTE to keep him in power. So do all the other people in all the other countries that are trying to re-distribute so there is less suffering. This is the people choosing their leaders, and not another power choosing for them.
From: United States
Good for Leonel. Coups can not be tolerated! Hondurans elected Zelaya as their president and he must be permitted to serve out his term.
Written by: juanb, 29 Jun 2009 10:22 AM
From: Dominican Republic
A note to all of those (Leonel) who want to cozy up to Chavez:
If you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
the far left is coming for us all .....Where is a Reagan when we really need him instead I think we are going to get worse than Jimmy Carter ......
From: United States
Gabriel Garcia Marquez once said:
"Cuando la mie*da adquiera valor, los pobres naceran sin c**o". Let's vanquish this image. There is nothing wrong with redistribution if it is done legaly and democratically.
From: United States
Left - Center - Right. The eternal and utopic rule of balance. What does it actually mean? Who do we call leftists? The communists, and socialists, and bleeding hearts? Who are the rightists? The religious fundamentalists, reactionaries, fascists, the rich? Who's the center? The undecided, the silent, the wise, the fearful, the meek? What happens to those that can't help themselves? What are they? What was Jesus? What was Mahatma Gandhi? What was Mandela? Desmond Tutu? Padre Romero? Padre Rutilio? Padre Oviedo? Padre Macias? Padre Pecorini? The nuns Ita Ford, Maura Clarke, Dorothy Kazel and Jean Donovan. The priests , Ignacio Ellacuría, Ignacio Martín Baró, Segundo Montes, Amando López , Juan Ramón Moreno, Joaquín López y López , and Elba and Celina Ramos. Were they leftists?
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
Chavez and Castro and Danny the Diddler are commies and murderers and they are coming for us all
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
when Nutty Hugo comes here dont forget " " Charge him Double Give Him Nothing "
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
Threeeyed owl ..you are so correct that we have advanced here in Dr from a corrupt dictatorship to a corrupt democracy and I hope the next step is to an honest democracy ,,and you are so right to mention so many famous leaders like Mendella and Tutu. I can not believe Juango suggesting that democracy is only for countries with an educated majority ...and certainly the USA is no model for a good democracy . I would be looking to a system that works well and honestly as in South Africa, Australia. Canada or England .
From: United States
Even if you don't agree with Zelaya's poitics, surely you can see the time of dictatorship and military coups must not reinfect the Americas! Obviously his constitutional reform idea was a page out of Chavez's book and should be voted down, but executing a military coup is not the way to PRESERVE DEMOCRACY in the Americas!
Written by: Juango, 29 Jun 2009 12:22 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Rickie, please understand that I never claimed the USA to be a Model (good) Democracy. At present, we are far from being that. Obama's is doing whatever he wishes with the country, under the guise of Democracy. Soon, he too will be uncloaked, for what he really is: "a far-left secular
progressive bent on nothing short of revolution". I just hope it is not too late, when that happens. The DR is a "Corrupt Democracy" due to levels of education of the masses. For the DR to become an Honest Democracy as you wish, the "publico" must become more educated, and sorry, I dont see that happening soon !!
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
Another CIA coup?
but of course everyone is against it when the cameras are rolling.
OAS,? remember them? They helped the Americans in the 1965 revolution...
They helped put that butcher Balaguer in power "para los 12 Años"
EVERYTHING IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS!!!!!!!!!!!
And by the way Democracy does not exist.....
From: Dominican Republic, Parque Colon statue of Anacaona
chill you had better get down there with those freedom fighters and save the the day maybe nutty hugo and Danny the Diddler will give you a medal
Written by: Juango, 29 Jun 2009 8:29 PM
From: United States, far S. Florida (formerly Santo Domingo)
Ricradolito, I learned the referendum vote was to take place yesterday, Sunday, June 28.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
Juango yes you are correct in both the last 2 postings but for what it is worth I teach english to very poor young children ;gratis, two times a week and we also have many discussions about dominican affairs and they are very aware of the corruption in the system here and I have two special students that I think will be wonderful leaders so there is hope
The DR Prez condemns and demands Zelayas be reinstated.
Am I missing something ?
Is the DR and Honduras that close ?
Why was Zelayas removed in the first place ? What are the details ?
Returning to a period of Barbarism ?
WOW ! I just have to wonder....What if the DR's Prez Friends Raul Castro and Hugo-a-go-go were to meet that same fate ? Would he then condemn and demand their return to power ?
Why wasn't Zelayas voted out instead ????
What is the Honduran Citizens / Public's response to all of this ?
Could it be.... It could happen there, it can happen anywhere ?
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME. I am totally confused with lack of information.
But I will say this THANK GOD, THANK GOD it was not done threw violence or bloodshed.
A couple thoughts for the Day.
Leaders can't lead with out followers.
Leaders can lead you into it, or lead you out of it.
Leaders lead by example.
Who does the Leader serve and follow ?
If you say is true WOW ! now that's news to me.....and to think some People get payed to inform the Public. I just hope and pray the DR never follows suit, and if so...By the Ballot. A lot can be said about a Man who has been GIVEN power not by his WORDS, BUT BY HIS ACTIONS.
Take care.
The ousted President wanted to have a referendum later this year on various constitutional changes but this was opposed by the congress who somehow got the army involved ..I would be fairly certain that there was concern by some that their tenure in power could be insecure .
The big difference here is that in Honduras the president was to seek the peoples consent by way of a ballot but in the DR the changes are made without going to a referendum.
THANK YOU !
I now really feel informed. I will check it out.
ALL take care.
The problem in this country is that there is no party with high principles to assume control .
any way Mexico besides beign a political dictatorship in the past is and 6 years out! Also V.Fox would like to legalize drugs
Iran is different - God will - God will - What? Dominican V`udu,Iranian Voodoo Same shit
True, Zelaya's constituency are the poor and the unions. Yet, rather than govern, he was more concerned about staying in power. The laws were written to prevent despotism here. Any subversion of that law is illegal and bad for the country.
Our world has become so politically correct that we would rather publicly support a banana republic despot rather than offend Castro/Chavez/Morales. We now lay down with our enemies.
http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa010201b.htm
If you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
"Cuando la mie*da adquiera valor, los pobres naceran sin c**o". Let's vanquish this image. There is nothing wrong with redistribution if it is done legaly and democratically.
progressive bent on nothing short of revolution". I just hope it is not too late, when that happens. The DR is a "Corrupt Democracy" due to levels of education of the masses. For the DR to become an Honest Democracy as you wish, the "publico" must become more educated, and sorry, I dont see that happening soon !!
but of course everyone is against it when the cameras are rolling.
OAS,? remember them? They helped the Americans in the 1965 revolution...
They helped put that butcher Balaguer in power "para los 12 Años"
EVERYTHING IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS!!!!!!!!!!!
And by the way Democracy does not exist.....