Russian troops marching through Red Square in Moscow in the annual Victory Day parade.
Moscow.- Russia's Ministry of Justice has adopted a ruling
by the Supreme Court that flags with crosses will be considered symbols
of extremism, and their display will be banned.
The ruling effectively
outlaws the flags of Georgia, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark,
Iceland, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Dominican
Republic and Jamaica, as well as those of 15 states within the Russian
Federation.
According to online news site Rustavi2.com.ge, Georgian heraldry experts downplay the attack of the Russian
authorities on symbols and even the Russian experts slam Russian Justice
Ministry for such an inadequate decision.
From: Dominican Republic
Why not ban flag with the crescent moon? Doesn't the crescent moon symbolizes and rally the moslem's causes that are currently threatening the territorial integrity of Russia along is southern border?
Why not ban flag with weapons? Since weapons symbolizes the technology of death that has brought misery to mankind with different ethnicity, religion beliefs, political view, different languages, etc.
Why not ban flag containing the red color since red symbolizes "the spill of blood" and that can push people to kill others to spill their blood?
Why not ban flag containing one particular tree or animal since that promotes the "uniculturalism " of our flora/fauna? Or containing the act of killing animals since that promote fauna destruction?
Why not ban flag containing images that invalidate history such as "natives shaking hands with invaders in a very warm and welcome manner"?
From: United States, San Diego, CA - (Dei sitio)
Way too much vodka in their bellies and brains... who the hell cares what Russia's ministry of justice says...I do not even know his name.
Written by: oupala07 
, 23 Aug 2009 2:42 PM
From: Canada
This ban is aimed at Georgia's present regime. Once a new government which will be friendly to Moscow will be in place over there, then the Russians will lift the ban.
Written by: Edward, 23 Aug 2009 4:21 PM
From: United States, Faux News: Unfair Imbalance
I like the idea. Flags with religious symbols should be banned or modified. I think DR should change the flag and get rid of the white cross and the "Dios" and change it to "Paz, Patria, Libertad". All democracies should have separation of church and state.
Written by: Amber, 23 Aug 2009 5:56 PM
From: United States
Edward,
Do you then think that the USA should remove "In God We Trust" that is printed on every currency (coins and bills)? Should we stop using "So help you God!" whenever someone is placed under oath? Should Federal and State employees have to work during religious holidays? Should the White House stop using taxpayers' money on Christmas decorations?
Maybe the "regalía pascual" should be stopped in the DR and people should not be given Thursday and Friday off during Holy week. Heck, let's also stop all this Christmas nonsense and make every government employee work that time of the year also.
I like and love the Dominican flag as it is. Why should we change it just because some think that it should be generic? What else should we dilute?
Written by: Edward, 23 Aug 2009 7:20 PM
From: United States, Faux News: Unfair Imbalance
As a matter of fact I do think we should remove "In God We Trust" "So Help Me God" etc. As a Secular Humanist I think it's wrong for governments to promote religion even if it's subtle. I think the DR flag is beautiful don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't have religious symbols or language. It perpetuates the sickness and irrational crutch called religion that has plagued humanity for millennia.
From: Dominican Republic
Edward: "Paz, Patria, Libertad" are incongruent! You can't be promoting "Paz" if "Liberty" is threatened! You must reserved force and violence to preserve your other two words "Patria" and "Liberty." In fact, right now that concept of "paz" is getting us in trouble with the illegal!
Written by: mrios, 23 Aug 2009 10:52 PM
From: United States
Amber.
Well put...
.AllumeuseGeneroso,
well said....
Edward,
If man would just put His Faith and Trust in God and not come to one's twisted belief half of the Problems we face to date would not exist, it's only mans Misinterpretation, Greed and the belief he could be a God that' sucks.
God wishes no harm to Humans, but Man does it by his Nature.
I make no excuses for man using the God excuse to do evil to fellow Man. Death to blank blank as an excuse / guarantee threw the pearly gates to be hook-up with 70 Virgins.
The idea and belief in a higher being helps Man stay in order. When Man makes His own rules he's surely soon to break them as always.
I'm willing to bet....When ever tragedy strikes the first thing that comes out of your Mouth is "OH MY GOD" or "JESUS".
By the way judging from your input I'm also willing to bet your Parents never brought the idea of the belief in GOD into your life.
JESUS, don't be caught dead with out Him.
Take ext
From: United States
I don't think the cross on our flag is a big deal. It isn't proportioned like the Catholic cross anyway. I like it. But I do believe DR should be more secular, while still observing holidays.
Oh and the Russian Federation is full of idiots.
Written by: josean, 24 Aug 2009 11:42 AM
From: United States
Cardinal Nicky is going to be pissed.
Written by: xwill7, 24 Aug 2009 12:34 PM
From: United States, Chicago
boycot the Russian drinks in DR!
Written by: generoso, 24 Aug 2009 2:07 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
What mental giant with nothing positive to do, spent his energy pushing this ridiculous law to completion must have had too much raw unfiltered vodka.
After something like this, you wonder if we are safe with the Russians and all them old nukes rusting away and ready to pop.
Allumeuse the bigot got banned for the fourth time, I hope he doesn't reenlist with my name again as his own, I hate to get all these hate PM's and threats by mistake. LOL.
Written by: Trujillo, 24 Aug 2009 2:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic
lol this ban is a sign of extremism. These lunatics promote tolerance, yet they can't tolerate a cross on a flag. I don't believe in religions, but no-one touches my flag.
Written by: bienamor, 24 Aug 2009 7:24 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
Written by: Edward, 23 Aug 2009 7:20 PM
From: South Africa, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, Universe, Multiverse
As a matter of fact I do think we should remove "In God We Trust" "So Help Me God" etc. As a Secular Humanist I think it's wrong for governments to promote religion even if it's subtle. I think the DR flag is beautiful don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't have religious symbols or language. It perpetuates the sickness and irrational crutch called religion that has plagued humanity for millennia.
I suggest that you move to either the milky way, or somewhere, other than where I am at! I dont mind the In God We Trust, or So Help Me God, Not too sure what a secular Humanist is but don't think I want to belong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_HumanistWritten by: Camano, 24 Aug 2009 7:32 PM
From: United States
Previously Quote By Edward (I do think we should remove "In God We Trust" "So Help Me God" etc. As a Secular Humanist I think it's wrong for governments to promote religion even if it's subtle.)
Edward, I totally agreed with you on this subject .....
Written by: Camano, 24 Aug 2009 7:37 PM
From: United States
Previously Quote By Ambar What else should we dilute?
"Human Kind bad to planet earth !"
Written by: mrios, 24 Aug 2009 7:38 PM
From: United States
Trujillo,
Let's X the Russians and there Vodka out of the DR.
X-cuse me.
X-marks the spot.
Rated-X
Merry X-mas
Malcolm X
I'm X-cited
The X's got it.
My X-wife.
I guest I'm considered an X-tremist
Written by: ellipse, 24 Aug 2009 10:50 PM
From: United States
Whatever will they do with their own Naval Ensign?
I suppose this may be idiotically aimed at Georgia, and their National Guard flag is exactly the Dominican civilian national flag in reverse. This will just make the Russians look like fools.
Who knew?
http://www.flags.net/GEOR06.htm I mean, the Georgian National Guard is not common on the international stage. And the Georgian army flag is like Malta's.
Sing along, "It's a small world..."
Written by: oupala07 
, 24 Aug 2009 11:07 PM
From: Canada
It is a sign of pure frustration by the Russians. They are watching powerlessly the Americans and the Ukrainians rearming the Gerogians to the teeth with high tech weapons, most of all anti aircraft misiles battery. They know that the Ukrainians are actually and virtually their enemies : Ukraine possesses the 5th standing army in the world, and is heavily armed.. They have the Biolerussians that are blackmailing them, because they constitute the only buffer between them and the West (Georgia), without forgetting their problems in Chechnya, Dagestan and Igushetia.
That is the reason why they place two brigade in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
I think the Georgians are playing a very dangerous game with Russia, and I don't see Europe following the United States in a war against Russia over Georgia, and I don't think the Russians will show restreint the next time they are provoked to war by the Georgians. We'll see until where they can hold their frustration.
From: Haiti
ahhh! comme on generoso!
it's a simple matter take the cross out of it. then, you'll see what i've been telling you all along for the past two years since topix to domnicatoday.
take the cross out and your flag would be wich country's flag, generoso?
tu flago es el haitiano flago with a cross smacked in the middle of it, gennenneeroso- amuso.
Written by: Amber, 25 Aug 2009 9:50 AM
From: United States
Haytian Pridesimo,
You're full of it! Either you don't know what your flag looks like, or you don't know what the DR flag looks like. The Dominican flag would not look like the Haitian flag if the cross is removed. The upper half of your flag is solid blue and the bottom half is solid red. Red and blue are diagonally opposed in the DR flag, therefore the top would be blue-red and the bottom red-blue.
From: Haiti
No way! Amber. Check back your trinitaria flag. Trinitaria flag: Haitian flag with a red cross. Then, along the way el capouto amended it in the 1850's.
Hey, I'm not surprised that you guys don't know the history of your flag since your history books have been twisted to make things look glossy to you.
"The flag of the Dominican Republic has its roots in the Haitian Flag of the early 19th century, a horizontal bicolor of blue over red. The leader of the movement for independence from Haiti, Juan Pablo Duarte, founded a secret society, the Trinitarians, on 16 July 1838. This name referred to their religion as well as to the organization of their society, which limited association between members to cells of three individuals.
Dave Martucci, 12 Oct 1999"
http://flagspot.net/flags/do_hist.htmlHuuuh, I wonder what else has been twisted?
From: Haiti
Yeah, I'm full of it. Aint it?
Your books are full of crap. I'm still waiting to see what they're going to teach you next. Let me see, huuhh, you're pure german indios. Naahhh! all the indians lived in the east, that's why you are german indios. Yaaah!
Written by: Lautaro, 26 Aug 2009 9:37 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
If we're going to follow your twisted logic, then your country could also be accused of plagiarism, pridesimo, as your flag comes from the one of the French Republic (even the revolutionary phrygian cap seen on the coat of arms), the only difference being that you eliminated the white band on the center of it out of racial hatred against the blancs, so you can't claim being innocent of the racism charge, so please, if you don't want to be made look as a fool, spare us the BS racial lecture, cuz' if something, the current terrible socioeconomic state of the african majorities of your country speaks VOLUMES about your lack of any moral high ground whatsoever to be lecturing us about racism. Do you want me to continue exposing the bones on your closet? I also notice that you only post on the wee hours of the night, what's the matter? do you have to wait for the chief of the mental institution in which you're locked in to take a nap in order for you to use his PC to take cheap shots at us?
Written by: Camano, 26 Aug 2009 6:04 PM
From: United States
One island, same people. They're both poor and broke so what's the fuss about?
Written by: mrios, 26 Aug 2009 8:26 PM
From: United States
Camano,
True one Island but two separate Country's, what affects one effects the other like it or not. Haitians have there own massive internal problems, it's not the Haitian People's fault but there Government that's in a total disarray where GREED & POWER RULES, you think the DR Government is bad.....I have never meet an Haitian in the U.S or the D.R I didn't get-a-long with they have the same wants and needs like everybody else. Many Haitians voice there dislike not towards us Dominicans but threw frustration, for many Haitians the DR is there form of escape and a chance of opportunity that's all.
ALL THIS HATRED AND MISS UNDERSTANDING.....FOR WHAT !
It takes two to tangle.
If the Haitian Gov. got there SH&% together it would salve a lot of the DR's problems, at least if that happens the DR People can Bitch and point fingers at each other. HA ! HA ! HA !.
And to think I'm Dominican born.
GOD save the DR, the Haitians would also benefit.
Written by: HiHater, 31 Aug 2009 7:00 PM
From: United States, Brooklyn, NY
According to HaytianPridesimo logic,
Puerto Rico also copied the haitian flag,Grito de Lares Flag (1868). is this consistent???
Why not ban flag with weapons? Since weapons symbolizes the technology of death that has brought misery to mankind with different ethnicity, religion beliefs, political view, different languages, etc.
Why not ban flag containing the red color since red symbolizes "the spill of blood" and that can push people to kill others to spill their blood?
Why not ban flag containing one particular tree or animal since that promotes the "uniculturalism " of our flora/fauna? Or containing the act of killing animals since that promote fauna destruction?
Why not ban flag containing images that invalidate history such as "natives shaking hands with invaders in a very warm and welcome manner"?
Do you then think that the USA should remove "In God We Trust" that is printed on every currency (coins and bills)? Should we stop using "So help you God!" whenever someone is placed under oath? Should Federal and State employees have to work during religious holidays? Should the White House stop using taxpayers' money on Christmas decorations?
Maybe the "regalía pascual" should be stopped in the DR and people should not be given Thursday and Friday off during Holy week. Heck, let's also stop all this Christmas nonsense and make every government employee work that time of the year also.
I like and love the Dominican flag as it is. Why should we change it just because some think that it should be generic? What else should we dilute?
Well put...
.AllumeuseGeneroso,
well said....
Edward,
If man would just put His Faith and Trust in God and not come to one's twisted belief half of the Problems we face to date would not exist, it's only mans Misinterpretation, Greed and the belief he could be a God that' sucks.
God wishes no harm to Humans, but Man does it by his Nature.
I make no excuses for man using the God excuse to do evil to fellow Man. Death to blank blank as an excuse / guarantee threw the pearly gates to be hook-up with 70 Virgins.
The idea and belief in a higher being helps Man stay in order. When Man makes His own rules he's surely soon to break them as always.
I'm willing to bet....When ever tragedy strikes the first thing that comes out of your Mouth is "OH MY GOD" or "JESUS".
By the way judging from your input I'm also willing to bet your Parents never brought the idea of the belief in GOD into your life.
JESUS, don't be caught dead with out Him.
Take ext
Oh and the Russian Federation is full of idiots.
After something like this, you wonder if we are safe with the Russians and all them old nukes rusting away and ready to pop.
Allumeuse the bigot got banned for the fourth time, I hope he doesn't reenlist with my name again as his own, I hate to get all these hate PM's and threats by mistake. LOL.
From: South Africa, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, Universe, Multiverse
As a matter of fact I do think we should remove "In God We Trust" "So Help Me God" etc. As a Secular Humanist I think it's wrong for governments to promote religion even if it's subtle. I think the DR flag is beautiful don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't have religious symbols or language. It perpetuates the sickness and irrational crutch called religion that has plagued humanity for millennia.
I suggest that you move to either the milky way, or somewhere, other than where I am at! I dont mind the In God We Trust, or So Help Me God, Not too sure what a secular Humanist is but don't think I want to belong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Humanist
Edward, I totally agreed with you on this subject .....
"Human Kind bad to planet earth !"
Let's X the Russians and there Vodka out of the DR.
X-cuse me.
X-marks the spot.
Rated-X
Merry X-mas
Malcolm X
I'm X-cited
The X's got it.
My X-wife.
I guest I'm considered an X-tremist
I suppose this may be idiotically aimed at Georgia, and their National Guard flag is exactly the Dominican civilian national flag in reverse. This will just make the Russians look like fools.
Who knew? http://www.flags.net/GEOR06.htm I mean, the Georgian National Guard is not common on the international stage. And the Georgian army flag is like Malta's.
Sing along, "It's a small world..."
That is the reason why they place two brigade in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
I think the Georgians are playing a very dangerous game with Russia, and I don't see Europe following the United States in a war against Russia over Georgia, and I don't think the Russians will show restreint the next time they are provoked to war by the Georgians. We'll see until where they can hold their frustration.
it's a simple matter take the cross out of it. then, you'll see what i've been telling you all along for the past two years since topix to domnicatoday.
take the cross out and your flag would be wich country's flag, generoso?
tu flago es el haitiano flago with a cross smacked in the middle of it, gennenneeroso- amuso.
You're full of it! Either you don't know what your flag looks like, or you don't know what the DR flag looks like. The Dominican flag would not look like the Haitian flag if the cross is removed. The upper half of your flag is solid blue and the bottom half is solid red. Red and blue are diagonally opposed in the DR flag, therefore the top would be blue-red and the bottom red-blue.
Hey, I'm not surprised that you guys don't know the history of your flag since your history books have been twisted to make things look glossy to you.
"The flag of the Dominican Republic has its roots in the Haitian Flag of the early 19th century, a horizontal bicolor of blue over red. The leader of the movement for independence from Haiti, Juan Pablo Duarte, founded a secret society, the Trinitarians, on 16 July 1838. This name referred to their religion as well as to the organization of their society, which limited association between members to cells of three individuals.
Dave Martucci, 12 Oct 1999"
http://flagspot.net/flags/do_hist.html
Huuuh, I wonder what else has been twisted?
Your books are full of crap. I'm still waiting to see what they're going to teach you next. Let me see, huuhh, you're pure german indios. Naahhh! all the indians lived in the east, that's why you are german indios. Yaaah!
True one Island but two separate Country's, what affects one effects the other like it or not. Haitians have there own massive internal problems, it's not the Haitian People's fault but there Government that's in a total disarray where GREED & POWER RULES, you think the DR Government is bad.....I have never meet an Haitian in the U.S or the D.R I didn't get-a-long with they have the same wants and needs like everybody else. Many Haitians voice there dislike not towards us Dominicans but threw frustration, for many Haitians the DR is there form of escape and a chance of opportunity that's all.
ALL THIS HATRED AND MISS UNDERSTANDING.....FOR WHAT !
It takes two to tangle.
If the Haitian Gov. got there SH&% together it would salve a lot of the DR's problems, at least if that happens the DR People can Bitch and point fingers at each other. HA ! HA ! HA !.
And to think I'm Dominican born.
GOD save the DR, the Haitians would also benefit.
Puerto Rico also copied the haitian flag,Grito de Lares Flag (1868). is this consistent???