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San Juan, Puerto Rico.- Dominican Republic’s general consul in Puerto Rico said on Monday that there are around 200,000 of his compatriots in Puerto Rico, including those living there illegally.

However Maximo Taveras said it’s difficult to determine the exact number of Dominicans living in Puerto Rico and pledged the Consulate’s assistance in a census to establish the exact figure.

The Dominican diplomat also asked Dominicans there to obey Puerto Rican Law, in reference to areas frequented by undocumented people in the area of Toa Bja, on the island’s north.

He said he’ll try to solve the problem of the illegal presence of Dominicans in Toa Baja, where since several months ago they’ve been erecting illegal housing which lacks the permit for residential use.

As to his compatriots’ illegal arrival at Puerto Rico’s west coasts, Taveras said the tendency has been substantially reduced in the last months due to police pressure from his country and the island’s federal authorities.

Source: diariolibre.com.do

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Written by: brasilenos4ever This user is banned, 3 Aug 2009 1:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic
These undocumented immigrants should be provided assistance in obtaining better living conditions, so that they will not have to erect these type of living quarters. They are there on the Island, some contirbuting to the growth of the economy. I think the U.S. government should legalize the status of those who are demonstrating a williness to be law abiding, productive members of the community there.

There is a small criminal element of Dominicans there who create a bad reputation for the positive individuals who are contributing to the economy. This element should be singled out, jailed and deported.
Written by: xwill7, 3 Aug 2009 2:24 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
There are way more than 200k in PR
Written by: El_Mayimbe, 3 Aug 2009 3:35 PM
From: United States
brasile~o,

I am dominican and I disagree with you. When you do something illegal, regardless of how great a person one might be, there are consequences. period. Why the hell should the PR/US government spend tax payer money on building homes and improving conditions for people who committed an illegal act? especially during a recession.
Written by: xwill7, 3 Aug 2009 3:56 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
True mayimbe,
If PR does what basi says, it will only increase the number of yolas from DR to PR.
Written by: nocrodomus, 3 Aug 2009 4:01 PM
From: Dominican Republic
brasilenos4ever, lol lol lol you are a funny guy man, i wonder how many Dominicans would say the same about the people of our neighbor country from the west??
Written by: BASTA, 3 Aug 2009 5:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs/Free abortions for all Never Confuse Education with Intelligence
I think the U.S. government should legalize the status of those who are demonstrating a williness to be law abiding, productive members of the community there. Are you on Crack? If you are illegal how do you become legal and if home is so great -- Return and vote again for Mr Piggie lieonelly joto Fregnanie
Written by: brasilenos4ever This user is banned, 3 Aug 2009 6:26 PM
From: Dominican Republic
No I am not on crack! But you may be. There are thousands of Dominicans in Puerto Rico, just as there are thousands of Haitians in the D.R.. A vast majority of these Dominicans in Puerto Rico are there for a better life for them and their families back home. They work and contribute to economy and are other wise law abiding.

Regardless of any way you look at their status, illegal immigration in the U.S. is not a felony offense. Its a civil offense. Also, because of the number of Dominicans there, deporting them will be nearly impossible. I say legalize their status and move on. As for the criminal element, jail them and deport them. I've already voiced similar views about Hiatians in the D.R. Deporting all Dominicans in Puerto rico will have an significany impact on the economy there.
Written by: DominicanChic, 3 Aug 2009 6:56 PM
From: United States, New York
brasilenos4ever said: "I've already voiced similar views about Hiatians in the D.R."

Well most Dominicans haven't, so if the U.S. government decided to begin deporting from Puerto Rico, we as civilized citizens would have to understand that they are in their right to do so.
Written by: JRRubirosa, 3 Aug 2009 7:06 PM
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
Dominicanchic:

Only Haitians complain when they break the law and don't want to be deported, agree with you;
if Dominicans in PR are illegal Puerto Rico has the right to deport Dominicans that are not
abiding law citizens.
Written by: El_Mayimbe, 3 Aug 2009 7:09 PM
From: United States
Brasile~o,

It's hard to consider law abiding citizens and give them the benefit of the doubt when they got there illegally in the first place (which no longer makes them law abiding). By granting them legal status, that will only increase the amount of dominicans (or any other nationality) entering PR illegally bc they will be expected the same generous treatment. I understand the humanity side but there are laws and people have to understand that. If i speed on the highway I know that there is a possibility that I might get caught and get fined...just bc I'm otherwise a good citizen and do not commit any federal offenses, it does not grant me the right to be dismissed of the wrong I have done or the law I have broken.

cont'd:
Written by: El_Mayimbe, 3 Aug 2009 7:14 PM
From: United States
Same goes for Haitians in the DR. I really want them to progress as a nation and as a people but so long as the DR has it's own poverty and issues, regardless of the fact that most haitians are good people and many do contribute to our economy, granting them legal status will only motivate more to come and unfortunately more of them means more poverty, more resources that have to be spread out, more hunger, etc.; just imagine if all the haitians were granted this...the percentage of those that are homeless, poor, etc. will drastically rise and will make us seem less as a developing nation and may even dissuade foreign investors bc of the worsening statistics. It is a sad reality, but a reality. The DR cannot afford more poverty than it already has; if the government could hardly take care of its own people, it will be less able to do so for haitians or any other nationality.

cont'd:
Written by: El_Mayimbe, 3 Aug 2009 7:17 PM
From: United States
Same goes for dominicans in foreign countries. My parents came to the U.S. legally; it cost them more money, more sacrifice than it would if they did so illegally, but they respected the law and eventually became U.S. citizens. If people can become legal in any country whether they enter legally or not (just bc you're otherwise "law abiding"), what's the point of having laws in the first place? what's the point of wasting time and money doing it the legal way?

A law abiding citizen obeys the law whether breaking it is considered a federal offense or a minor offense... if one decides to risk it and break it, he or she must understand that there are consequences. Those who cross the sea in a yola know they are doing something illegal; their realities are sad but that does not have to be PR's concern; they too have their own problems.
Written by: lulo70, 3 Aug 2009 9:33 PM
From: United States
brasilenos4ever, the U.S. Gov't. or the authorities in Puerto Rico for that matter, should never condone the acts of illegals. Look up the definition of illegal; It states; not according to or authorized by law. Therefore if we promote the acts of illegals, all it will do is encourage more people to come illegally. It's the same problem the DR faces with it's Haitian neighbors who come illegally to the Dominican side of the island. This isn't only a problem in PR but in the United States as well. The history of the U.S. tells us that the U.S. is a country made of immigrants, regardless if they came to the the U.S. illegal or legally. The bottom line is that if Dominicans are in PR illegally and contributing to society and the economy than be it. I just hope they don't get caught because I hear they will get deported. People come to different places may it be the US, PR or DR to make a better life for themselves and I think that, as human beings, that is all we want.
Written by: allumeuseGeneroso This user is banned, 3 Aug 2009 9:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
1.7 million Dominicans (born in DR) live abroad (U.S. PR, Spain, Venezuela, Panama, Europe, etc.). The 200K in PR (4 % of the population in PR), the majority are legal. The illegal should be deported the minute they are caught just like it is done in the U.S. and in Europe.

No exception! Illegal immigration undermines wages, unions, displace the natives from the land, jobs, and subsidies. Illegal do not assimilate and they inject their culture into the host diluting the host culture. Unwelcome demographic explosion can throw into chaos careful planning and execution!

We don't want another Kosovo or foreign satellites implanted in host countries under the excuse of human rights, compassion, pacifism, and socialism. Obey immigration laws and everything will be okay! Let societies dictate how much foreign citizens they need but don't dump somebody else's irresponsibilities to responsible countries!
Written by: CarlosFranco, 3 Aug 2009 10:01 PM
From: United States, Brooklyn

Deport them... It's their right!
Written by: JRRubirosa, 3 Aug 2009 10:12 PM
From: United States, Port Washington, LI (New York)
We need a "REVOLUTION", "PERESTROIKA", or anything else in the DR to fight the illegal migration that is a major "Threat" to the Dominicans living in the country, no more HAITIANS
this is not racism but plain SURVIVAL mode.


"Keep you posted" "DOMINICANS", I do hate the establishment in DR; love Radicalism
like revolution, change or pushing the corruption out of the country.


"Duarte, Sanchez y Mella'
Written by: buenoha, 4 Aug 2009 9:49 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
These yoleros should be sent back immediately to work in the DR. Please increase the minimum wage in the DR and improve health care and social security. There are plenty jobs in the DR now in the tourism, construction and agriculture sector, which are mainly filled by Haitians. I hope Dominicans stop going to P.R. I also hope Haitians stop coming to D.R. The balance should be restored.
Written by: xwill7, 4 Aug 2009 9:58 AM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
everyone complains about illegals but in USA,/PR, DR, and any other country they use illegals for cheap labor. The people in the US/PR make money off Dominicans and people in DR make money off the people from Haiti. There will always be illegals because someone is making money off of these people.
Written by: El_Mayimbe, 4 Aug 2009 11:48 AM
From: United States
The fact that people make money off them does not take away that they are illegal nor should that make the case for their legalization. Many of the unskilled poor of PR have been displaced by dominicans just like the poor in mainland USA by mainly mexicans and the unskilled poor of DR by haitians. Yes, because its cheaper but the government is supposed to work for and is paid by its citizens and therefore must have their interests in mind.
Written by: xwill7, 4 Aug 2009 1:07 PM
From: United States, El cuarto bate
But most small businesses in PR are owned by Dominicans
Written by: El_Mayimbe, 4 Aug 2009 1:17 PM
From: United States
I remember reading that dominicans in PR are more likely to own a business than Puerto Ricans in PR. That doesn't mean most small businesses are owned by dominicans...I personally find that hard to believe (though wouldn't be that surprised either). Be it as it may, I'm sure just about all dominicans that own a small [legitimate] business are actually legal...and I'm not referring to legal dominicans.
Written by: mirabal4ever This user is banned, 4 Aug 2009 3:15 PM
From: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito"
this looks like an article written by a brasilean!
Written by: allumeuseGeneroso This user is banned, 4 Aug 2009 9:44 PM
From: Dominican Republic
There is no excuse for illegal immigration. This is letting capitalism dictate social demographics, economic strata, and cultural evolution. We must do social engineering that tames immigration and if we have to spank the productive sector SO BEAT IT!
Written by: HonestAbe This user is banned, 5 Aug 2009 10:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Deport their asses, why should PR and his people paid for the Dominican Government to provide better living for it's citizens.

I am Dominican, and I agree these illegal are deported back to the RD.

enough with he Hippocracy already, they go to PR to turn that country into another shanty town.
Written by: guillermone, 5 Aug 2009 10:56 AM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
Tell me Mr Brazil how would you feel if someone cuts in front of you on the check-out line?
Personally, I would get really piss-off if I had to wait over a 1/2 hour and then all of a sudden I see some sucker come in and checks out in less then 3 minutes after I waited patiently for my turn.

Well let me tell you something, most of my relatives had to wait close to 10 years to be legally admitted into the US and get permanent residency. They waited patiently and with a lot of sacrifice paid the high fees for the processing of documents and followed the rules as is expected. What is the point of having rules and laws to control and regulate migration, if you just automatically grant permanent status to illegals just because they work and obey the law? You got it all wrong my friend and sending the wrong message. One of the main reasons why most 3rd world countries are all screw-up is because people want to make their own rules and do their own thing. That only creates chaos.
Written by: hellborn25, 5 Aug 2009 12:32 PM
From: United States, New Jersey Home of the brave.
dont you hate bleeding liberals like brasilenos 4 ever, yea give illegal imigrants shelter water food , and why your at it give them your job too. if any dominican travels illegaly in any country and has no documented papers to be in the country he should be deported like any illegal .
Written by: brasilenos4ever This user is banned, 5 Aug 2009 3:02 PM
From: Dominican Republic
These comments in support of deporting Dominicans is not really about Dominicans at all, it is a cover argument to support the deportation of Hiatians from the D.R. The Thousands of Dominicans that live abroad provide extraoridinary amount of financial support to thousands of dominicans living in the D.R., deporting those illegally in P.R. or the U.S. would have a devastating event of the Dominican economy. PLEASE GET A LIFE, A JOB, AN EDUCATION, and stop bashing these Haitains.

No a single person here who is commenting about illegal Dominicans in P.R. are actually concerned about them, they are only concerned about Haitians illegally in the D.R.. Indeed some of them commenting here have family members illegally in both places and in no way shape or form williing to contact immigration officials to have them deported. If you are, do me a favor and send a private P.M. and I'll personally arrange it in 48 hrs.
Written by: brasilenos4ever This user is banned, 5 Aug 2009 3:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I've never suggested that illegal immigration is acceptable. I'm merely saying those legally in the country should have their status legalize. Naturally any such plan should include the securing of the border and other areas to discourage further migration. But you cannot deport the millions of illegal immigrants in the D.R. & the U.S.. Some sensible plan must be employed to deal with these people already in the U.S. & its territories.

This is not a liberal argument, many conservatives in the U.S. feel the same. And all the people commenting here feel the same as well. This opposition I'm seeing here is nothning but a smoke screen to support and justify the deportation of haitians from the D.R., Yet not a single person here wil work in the construction, tobacco or sugar cane industry, nor any of their relatives. You're here talking abunch of B.S.

I say go get a job, an education and stop bashing haitians. I also say Brasilenos4ever!!!
Written by: allumeuseGeneroso This user is banned, 5 Aug 2009 8:46 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Brasileno =Haitian! Your argument is very flawed! The Dominican do construction and agricultural work in PR and in the U.S. And it is up to the U.S. and P.R. what to do with the illegal. The problem the U.S. has with its ilegal DOES NOT EXCUSE THE 1.4 illegal Haitian in DR! Each nation do what the hell they please with their ilegal!

We will continue to pound on the illegal Haitian and return the equilibrium and tradition back to DR. It is our intrinsic right! Haiti can go to hell!
Written by: brasilenos4ever This user is banned, 5 Aug 2009 9:14 PM
From: Dominican Republic
You can continue to pound on the illegal Haitian and i will continue to pound on the lazy, unemployed dominican males who blame Haitians for lack of job opportunities in the D.R.,

The Dominicans who work in the construction and agricultural industries in puerto Rico are the same ones who worked here in the D.R.. They are mostly Black dominicans who are more concerned with supporting their families than about discriminating against Haitians.

These Dominicans tell me, they would rather work along side Haitians than there own Dominican brothers because Haitians work hard and get the jobs done, while lazy Dominicans rather argue political issues and baseball stories than work. That they are slow and lazy. You have no intrinsic right, you are a numbnut in need of a shrink. I say go find one and go find one quick. Because Haitians are here in the D.R. to stay.

I also say Brasilenos4ever!!!!!!!
Written by: ambioriv, 6 Aug 2009 10:41 AM
From: United States
its way ,more than 200,000. That's not even including the half dominican. Like my half sisters in puertorico. With ties to Dominican Republic.
Written by: mirabal4ever This user is banned, 6 Aug 2009 12:08 PM
From: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito"
"These comments in support of deporting Dominicans is not really about Dominicans at all, it is a cover argument to support the deportation of Hiatians from the D.R"
brasil what has gotten into you? whats the matter i mean geez you asked for a scratching an received nothing from a dominicana so now you have pursued the alternative lifestyle. why do you think you can just assume what a person means when they support deportation of dominicans in p.r? their is no cover because the dominicans want haitians out so dont try to make things as if they are secretive because they are not. you are the biggest secret here and the savy pros will not be fooled.
Written by: ambioriv, 6 Aug 2009 12:27 PM
From: United States
ZIf you dont like yourc country get some responsibility and fix it.
Written by: ambioriv, 6 Aug 2009 12:27 PM
From: United States
everyone that is illegal should all be deported immediately.
Written by: Pepe32, 6 Aug 2009 2:29 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Guillermone
"Tell me Mr Brazil how would you feel if someone cuts in front of you on the check-out line?
Personally, I would get really piss-off if I had to wait over a 1/2 hour and then all of a sudden I see some sucker come in and checks out in less then 3 minutes after I waited patiently for my turn. "

Technically they are not jumping ahead of the line,the are not even on the line .The sneak in through the window instead of making the line through the front door.

Illegals who enter without any visa are not screened and nobody gave permission for their entry yet they feel justified in their twisted minds.

BTW Brasil doesn't care about Dominicans in PR his point is clearly to tie this in with the silent Haitian invasion of DR.

If you enter my house through the window I have the right to break a bat over your head and especially if you crap all over my house and say that my house is really yours.

Please get out of my country before things get out of hand!!
Written by: guillermone, 6 Aug 2009 11:20 PM
From: United States, Bring Back DT Forum
RIGHT ON PEPE32 !!!!!!! "If you enter my house through the window I have the right to break a bat over your head..." LOL

I think that Mr Brazil is really half-haitian, or suffers from full blown case of Haitianitis, but hides behind the facade of a country like Brazil, a place he does not even know, but hopes to visit one day. Ok Mr Brazil tell me: Voce fala portugues? or is it sak pasé? Which two expression do you most identify with?
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