Port-au-Prince.– Haitian police detained 10 Americans Saturday who tried to bus 33 children across the border to the Dominican Republic.
According to Haiti´s Communications Minister
Marie-Laurence Jocelyn Lassegue, the US citizens were taken into custody with the children while
trying to reach the Dominican Republic. "They said consular officials were seeking access to them and
were providing all possible assistance," she said.
The Baptist church members from Idaho said they were trying to save
abandoned children. Group leader Laura Silsby said they paid no money
for the children. She said they had documents from the Dominican
government but did not seek paperwork from Haitian authorities.
"We can't fly anyone without an accepting hospital on the other end,"
said Capt. Kevin Aandahl, spokesman for US Transportation Command.
But Dr. Barth Green of the University of Miami said he had
hospitals ready and waiting, and accused the US government of
endangering the Haitians' lives. "We have 100 critically ill patients who will die in the next day or two if we don't Medevac them," he said.
Written by: fedadiaz, 31 Jan 2010 10:23 AM
From: Dominican Republic
BIG BUSINESS That's what it means for this people the orphans in Haiti. I hate people who take advantage of the others needs and pain. SHAME ON THEM using religion to make money .
If you live in the USA you know that this is money, adoptions cost around 50.000 to 70.000 if you don have that money you won't adopt.
PERIOD.
Don't matter what kind of agency is.
From: Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata
Unless they want to be do-gooders no matter what.
Written by: ateo2010, 31 Jan 2010 10:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic
religion , when are you gonna stop eating up our planet?...
this trolls should be deported and never allowed to come back!...
Written by: generoso, 31 Jan 2010 11:03 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
Trolls? No these are not trolls. They look like rednecks wanting to make some extra bucks, and using
religion as an excuse.
Human suffering traffickers is more like it, and they should have book thrown at them, and do charity work in the Haitian jail system, taking care of the prisoners.
They do look like like humanoid, brain-washed fundamentalist-clones.
PS Last two paragraphs are another headline.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
you would have to be a low grade moron to see bad intentions in this story .....This is the forces of law hopefully trying to insure good intentions........... and the sovereign rights of all concerned .....including all countries involved Dom Rep /Haiti /USA
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
These are two completely different stories
The first is the opportunism of these baptists who I am sure knew full well about all the necessary procedures.
The second story has been featured on the TV and relates to the cessation of flights to the USA of about 200 critically injured people who urgently need treatment in the USA .There has been a dreadful mess up in the US administration and currently these 200 people are being denied entry to the USA simply because it has not been worked out who will pay ..makes a mockery of all the comments from Obama, Bush and Clinton ..hopefully will be resolved today
Written by: juanb, 31 Jan 2010 11:18 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Haiti is getting back to business as usual. There are virtually no services, but there are just enough gov't. officials to start insisting on bribes and payoffs to allow anything to happen. These people arrested were guilty of not paying the right official. NOTHING ELSE. They had permission from every one other than the guys with their hands out.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
You mean of say the forces of law were just a bunch of bribe taking business as usual functionaries.....I am shocked shocked
Written by: buenoha, 31 Jan 2010 11:32 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
They might have had good intentions but they should not think they have the right to bring children into the DR illegally. It doesn´t matter they are orphans. The children are not Dominican. They are haitians and should go to an orphanage in Haiti.
You cannot cross the US border with mexican orphans either. You just don't have the right to do that. People need to understand that Haiti and the DR are separate countries and the DR should not get all this burden from Haitian immigration.
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
The story now on the TV is that these people said that the Dominicans had given approval ,but they had no paperwork for the DR and that they were going to an orphanage in the DR ..They said the Americans came from a charity called New Life Childrens´ Refuge and no mention has been made where in the DR the orphanage is located . There was little attempt made by the Americans to seek any remaining parents of the children and the UN has fully backed the decision of the authorities in Haiti ..I doubt if there was proper approval from the DR government .
Written by: ateo2010, 31 Jan 2010 11:56 AM
From: Dominican Republic
buenoha,, correct!!!
From: United States, new england mass.
they should send these redneck gringos, back to alabama where they belong.
From: United States
it is that good old sense of american supremacist entitlement, wherein they feel that being caucasian americans, they have the right to do whatever they want to, wherever they want to, and others must meekly stand by and remember that they are dealing with americans, so, should mind their manners. they should all be charged with human trafficking, and the Dominican judicial system should throw the book at them. 10 years in Victoria Prison should just about adjust their dispositions, at least a little bit.
From: Dominican Republic
Of course they thought they could get away with it.
Hey, let's go to monkey island, since we are white and speak in foreign language, they will bend over, worship us and give us their kids as sacred offerings. Then we use our holier than thou powers to scape to the other side where the other monkeys known as Dominicans will allow us to to scape back to civilization in exchange for mirrors and shinny objects.
UNGA UNGA MARUNGA!!!!
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
caucasian americans?throw the book at them. 10 years in Victoria Prison should just about adjust their dispositions, at least a little bit................." Again Dread deals the slimy race card off the bottom of the deck "
Written by: johannac, 31 Jan 2010 1:18 PM
From: United States
I wonder what would happen if a group of Dominicans or Haitians were caught with a bus full of American foster children trying to cross the Mexican border with the excuse that children in the foster care system in the US are suffering from physical and sexual abuse, neglected and being killed by foster parents...which is all true, btw.
From: Dominican Republic
Kidnapping in the US has a minimum sentence of "life in prison without parole"
Of course, these gringos will get a slap in wrist and taken to the DR, where they would wait for another chance to go back to business.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
" Of course, these gringos will get a slap in wrist and taken to the DR, where they would wait for another chance to go back to business".............Were the red necked honky crackers were harvesting organs ?
From: United States
it is always the slimy race card when you do not like the reality. it is the americans who were playing the race card in this case. they felt they could do just about anything they pleased, and the darkies would just stand afar and admire them. NOT.
From: Denmark
Dread,
thums up again.
From: Denmark
ateo,
religion , when are you gonna stop eating up our planet?...
You surprise me.... now Im starting to have high hopes about you
From: United States
thanks again, ScandiViking. i have to call it as i see it, and Blutarsky and his antics do not terrify me.
From: Denmark
Dread,
Blut do agree with you, he just have a hard time expressing it.
Written by: cbelk99, 31 Jan 2010 1:54 PM
From: United States
I don t want to hear any thing more about HAITI, enough....enough. Were are all the PROUD Haitians?.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
I will if I put my sheet on ......you know how us red necked honky crackers are
From: Denmark
This is yet another example of people backed by religion think they are superior to all and think they can do what the f...k they want justified by their pure and religios mind. The problem in this world is that everything is so infiltrated by religion that most of the time they get away with whatever crap they are up to. Do u think the catholic priests charged of child abuse do get the same message from the court than Joe the child abuser. No fjucking way.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
You are still angry over the traumatic incident with the old Lutheran minister in Oslo when you were a boy .....Get over it
From: Denmark
Blut,
Man and I was just over it.... then you hit again. Im in shock and traumatized, need to go buy some vazeline just in case.
From: United States
a report from a USA newspaper states that these people planned to scoop up 100 children and take them to a 45 room hotel complex in Cabarete that they had converted into an orphanage. just precious! at a time when there are such sore feelings in this country about the uncontrolled entry of Haitians into Dominican territory, these George Bush religious fundamentalist wingnuts believe that they can flaunt the will of the Dominican citizen, and conduct an act which is counter to local sentiment. it is not as though this country has not done its share already. so, we get these numbskulls starting a nucleus for further Hitian incursion, in the epicenter of the tourist product on the North Coast. they feel it is unnecessary to investigate the cultural nuances which govern this kind of action, because, after all, they should be able to do as they please when dealing with them darlin darkies in the DR administration. off to Victoria with them, i say.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Scandi do not worry what other people think .....No one condemns you for your unusual lifestyle ....live and let live .....by the way your new rubber suit arrived at Parcel and Post they asked me to tell you to pick it up
Written by: ateo2010, 31 Jan 2010 2:19 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Blutarsky, your mind is delusional. religion is the #1 maker of all world problems. it may not be easy to figure out, but it is.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Cabarete is where they were going to harvest the organs dread ? ......those dirty red necked honky cracker republican goobers
From: Denmark
Dread,
American way of thinking. Superiority. Gods own country. Everybody else in this world want to cherish the American dream, hence why educate on other countries culture and custom. When the Americans arrive = 3 X Hurray - problem solved.
From: Denmark
Blut,
do pick it up but dont unpack it.
From: United States, Brooklyn
Can someone please tell these poeple that GOD IS DEAD....
From: United States
yes, ScandiViking. or, as the founding fathers described America, THE SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. i just love it when rowdy american kids get arrested in tijuana for lawlessness, and tell the police captain that they demand their constitutional rights, because they are AMERICAN! i do not know whether to laugh or cry!
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
thats easy for you to say sitting in your shitty Volvo talking on your cheesy Nokia phone while you eat your herring and eel
Written by: juanb, 31 Jan 2010 2:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Hey boys.....
Your inferiority complexes are showing. But then again maybe its not just a complex.
From: Denmark
Somebody said something about 26 dead in an institution in Cuba and blamed it on the evil system. A very sad incident and unforgiveable negligence from the people in charge.
Ricky,
"The second story has been featured on the TV and relates to the cessation of flights to the USA of about 200 critically injured people who urgently need treatment in the USA .There has been a dreadful mess up in the US administration and currently these 200 people are being denied entry to the USA simply because it has not been worked out who will pay ..makes a mockery of all the comments from Obama, Bush and Clinton ..hopefully will be resolved today."
In this tragic and horrific situation in Haiti, with a lot of people needing medical attention.......
Yet another example of the American mentality:
money first or you will die. Disgusting.
From: United States, Chicago
I see a lot of opposing opinions here, some of which are absolutely absurd. IN MY OPINION, theses jackasses should stop "helping" everyone any way "they" choose, regardless of law. I understand that there is a time issue here but you don't get to make up the rules because you are "holy" or "have good intentions" that is how most cons are run. Get the paperwork and go through the process. This is not the movies and you are not a hero! You are an "aid worker". Give aid under the direction of the governments involved.
As for Dreadlocks, Platano peleo, and blutasky, give it a break boys. Leave all that crap to the Al Sharpton's and Pat Robertson"s of the world. They are doing a f-ing great job of being racists enough for everyone.
Regarding the USA. I am proud of my country most of the time. We are always the first to help and fight other's wars. People don't cross the border TO Mexico in search of a better life for their families (although they are returning b/c no work in US)
From: United States, Chicago
Haiti is a sad tragedy but here i will digress...the real onging focusof the US should be on the middle east. The isreali's are butchering the Palastinians and stealing there land in Gaza(they have been there over 5000 years). 9/11 was an Islamic extemist response to our middle east foreign policy. Our support of Isreal. We send them a check for over 10 BILLION dollars every year with no stipulations on how it should be spent(education,healthcare,etc). No other country in the world thaat gets "aid" from the USA has a deal like that. Also, since when was Isreal so poor? Why don't we ever hear about these issues in the media? Obama ran on a strong platform of middle east peace with the 2 state solution but has since backed down like the rest of them. He said after becoming president "no more settlements in Gaza". The next week the Isrealis were back at it building settlements the UN has ruled illegal. Obama drew a line in the sand, the Isrealis crossed it, Obama did nothing.
Written by: Yucahu, 31 Jan 2010 2:58 PM
From: United States, Miami
See this is what I am talking about. Foreigners enabling crime in Dominican Republic. Missionaries, coporate executives, Peter the brat, Tom, Dick and "Harry. They go into the Dominican territory and they bring in Haitians illegally. Then they put it up on their website and announce this. They take advantage of Dominican goodwill, their needs for financial sufficiency, etc. They publicize that they brought in 10-20 haitians, who are hiding from the EVIL dominican government. This noble cause, this new underground railroad. They would not do this in the United States, or in Belgium or Canada. They would go to Jail. The Dominican Government needs to continue arresting and fining infractors of this nature. Teach them a lesson that this type of conduct will not be tolerated.
Assistance and help to Haiti: Yes, ABSOLUTELY
Integrity and Respect of Dominican laws and borders: Read prior response.
Written by: Yucahu, 31 Jan 2010 2:58 PM
From: United States, Miami
See this is what I am talking about. Foreigners enabling crime in Dominican Republic. Missionaries, coporate executives, Peter the brat, Tom, Dick and "Harry. They go into the Dominican territory and they bring in Haitians illegally. Then they put it up on their website and announce this. They take advantage of Dominican goodwill, their needs for financial sufficiency, etc. They publicize that they brought in 10-20 haitians, who are hiding from the EVIL dominican government. This noble cause, this new underground railroad. They would not do this in the United States, or in Belgium or Canada. They would go to Jail. The Dominican Government needs to continue arresting and fining infractors of this nature. Teach them a lesson that this type of conduct will not be tolerated.
Assistance and help to Haiti: Yes, ABSOLUTELY
Integrity and Respect of Dominican laws and borders: Read prior response.
From: United States, San Diego, CA - (Dei sitio)
TRDavisMD,
What if these kids were US citizens?
I support Dread's point, but I'd go even further, let's prosecute the Idaho potatoes under Haitian laws first...20 years and then send them to DR for another trial...30 years...That would send a good message to other Human traffickers.
From: United States, Chicago
Same process but they may go directly to US naval boats instead of to the DR.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
“The goal was to rescue orphaned children who needed help,” Drew Ham, a member of the Meridian, Idaho-based church, said in a telephone interview today. A Jan. 12 earthquake in Haiti killed more than 150,000
The group was detained because the children lacked necessary adoption papers from the Haitian government, Laura Silsby, the group’s leader, said in an interview with the Associated Press yesterday. Ham said he has not been able to contact Silsby and is in touch with U.S. State Department officials to obtain information about the legal proceedings in the case. He said he doesn’t know if the group has been charged with any crime.
Silsby was planning to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic to save Haitian children from the hands of human trafficking groups, a plan that pre-dated the earthquake, Ham said.
“This has been a dream of hers for quite some time,” . “Now it looks like her group was arrested for exactly the crime she wants to help combat.”
From: United States
I cant believe this bleeding hearts try to pull this crap there facing felonies in both countries they should throw the books at them , i bet there where gonna leave them in jimani or some run down neighborhood in dr
Written by: Grosero, 31 Jan 2010 6:10 PM
From: United States
There is nothing wrong with believing in God, but there is everything wrong with religion..
these are the same do-gooders who gunned down a doctor in thier Right to Life belief, but it's those same do-gooders who refuse to feed the child once they are born..
I know the prefect sentece....
BANG BANG
Written by: juanb, 31 Jan 2010 6:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Just because you can't imagine helping someone else does not mean that others are just as incapable as you. This was a legitimate attempt to help these children.
As for the US not accepting any more cases of severely injured people, governor Frist of Florida, a right wing Republican (the same people who brought two wars to the world, as well as almost allowing the world's financial system to melt down) decided on his own that he did not want the inhabitants of hisstate to foot the bill for these survivors medical care so he arbitrarily (consulted nobody) shut down the flights.
Written by: Belial, 31 Jan 2010 7:17 PM
From: United States, Texas
Increasingly, US reactionaries, Nazarene or Zionist, explain their actions as inspired by a divine being.
After no WMDs were discovered in Iraq, GWB said "God instructed me to attack Iraq and I did."
A US Zionist caught spying in Cuba says something called God told him to distribute advanced communication devices to Cuban Zionists.
Now, 10 US Nazarenes say something called the "Lord" told them to traffick in humans.
Conventionally, divine beings have a good side that consists of God and angels and bad side that consists of Satan and demoms. But these US citizens always allege that God and angels, the good side of divinity, told the Americans of faith to do something bad. If these US citizens are not lying, then God and angels seem to be turning into evil forces. On the other hand, if the US citizens are lying, one wonders how anybody can be so low as to defame divine beings.
Organizations of Nazarenes, both Catholic and Protestant, have pedophilic reputations.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
This is the group all you losers want to put in jail
For 60 years, SOS Children's Villages has been dedicated to the long-term care and prevention of orphaned and abandoned children. Through Villages, Family Strengthening Programs, and other initiatives, SOS Children's Villages impacts the lives of over 1 million people each year. In 2009, SOS Children's Villages received the Save the World Award. SOS has also received numerous other honors including the Mother Teresa Gold Medal, the Conrad N. Hilton Humanitarian Prize, and the Vietnam Friendship Medal. For more information about SOS Children's Villages, visit
http://www.sos-usa.org.From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Dread can drive them into the ocean with his pitch fork .....the bunch of red neck honky crackers goober republicans that they are
Written by: Grosero, 31 Jan 2010 7:21 PM
From: United States
HERE IS WHY I SAY THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HUNG ...
ON THE SPOT....
TRY READING THE TRUTH.....Conviction Angers Abortion Activists
Testifying in his own defense, an unremorseless Roeder insisted he had committed a justified act for the defense of unborn children by killing Dr. George Tiller, one of the country's few physicians to offer late-term abortions. It was a bold legal strategy that, if successful, had the potential to radically alter the debate over abortion by reducing the price for committing such an act of violence.
In God We Trust...No One else
http://www.theledger.com/article/....viction-Angers-Abortion-ActivistsWritten by: Grosero, 31 Jan 2010 7:23 PM
From: United States
Roeder faces a minimum sentence of life imprisonment with the possibility of parole after 25 years in prison when he's sentenced March 9, although prosecutors will ask the judge to require the 51-year-old Kansas City, Mo., man to serve at least 50 years behind bars before he is eligible for parole. His attorneys plan to appeal, arguing jurors should have been allowed to consider the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter, requiring proof that Roeder had an unreasonable but honest belief that deadly force was justified.
The Rev. Donald Spitz, of Chesapeake, Va., who runs the Army of God Web site supporting violence against abortion providers, said the rejection of that argument has upset those who view Roeder as a hero.
"I know there is not a lot of good feeling out there - everybody is pretty angry," he said.
WTF...
Yet these same people snear down their nose at the poor and only help is it helps themselves First!!!
Written by: generoso, 31 Jan 2010 8:16 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
No matter if they are mother Theresa reincarnate what they did, and how they did it.....was wrong.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
all the details of this incident have yet to be revealed .....there will be enough blame to go around
Written by: generoso, 31 Jan 2010 8:39 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
OK I will tell the "burn them at the stake" mob, to go home.
Written by: BASTA, 31 Jan 2010 9:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
Please donate if you can, and pass on to others and companies that might be able to provide donations or assistance.
MEDICAL NEEDS: Dialysis Patients/Glucose Strips/Financial Support for Hotels
The dialysis patients have all been evacuated three hours away to Rapid City, SD. They are staying in hotels for at least a week and half, probably longer. The Tribe is looking into reimbursement sources from CMS and IHS, but in the interim financial contributions are needed to help the families pay for their hote
Written by: BASTA, 31 Jan 2010 9:10 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
Just great= and the Americans can't even take care of their oun.
The Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation is one of the most impoverished communities in the United States.
http://www.sioux.org<http://www.sioux.org/> It is about the size of Connecticut: yet there are only a handful of generators on the Reservation, the water pump station is down so there is no running water, the gas stations hasn’t been able to pump gas, and the Tribal grocery store has lost all its perishables.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
the Casino Americans are doing better now thank you very much
Written by: josean, 1 Feb 2010 12:02 AM
From: United States
This probably falls in the category of “NO good deed goes unpunished!"
Written by: generoso, 1 Feb 2010 2:00 AM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
Blu
Details are starting to "get revealed", some of the children's parents were alive.
Nobody should try to force their kind religion on others, this is why some of the Muslim faith, despise so much the "Crusaders", referring to Christians.
Fundamentalism or believing that only you are right all the time, is causing most of the wars on our planet at present.
Written by: Belly, 1 Feb 2010 3:35 AM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
Gen
It's true some of the older kids in the ground have said that they know their parents are still alive and they have given authorities addresses and phone number to where now they have located the parents of some of the kids so to me this doesn't sound like a humanitarian act.This is starting to sound just like I thought child traffic.If a crime was committed then I'm all for maximum sentence to all the criminals involve in it for taking advantage of such disaster to commit heartless crimes like this one.
Written by: stefano, 1 Feb 2010 4:21 AM
From: Dominican Republic
they must be punish this is a crime, i pay all my crime in usa ,make themes payes too
they are the first one to complaind about amigration ,but they trafficking in dr ,punish theme ,do like usa make un exemple,or you will have 1000 more after , because they will think that ok, leonel punish theme please be a stand up man again.
imagine if it was dominican doing that in usa, oooooooooooo fuck, they will kill themes. do the same ,fuck themes,AMERICAN THEY THINKING THEY CAN DO WANT EVER THEY WANT WHEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE THERE COUNTRY ,AND IN THEY COUNTRY THEY SHIT THER PANS
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
As the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, Haiti is in a difficult spot - it needs aid, but deeply resents foreign meddling. Many have mixed feelings toward Christian groups that funnel hundreds of millions into missions in Haiti.
Christian missionaries alone run or support an estimated 2,000 primary schools attended by some 600,000 students - a third of Haiti's school-aged population, according to government figures. Church groups also run vital hospitals, orphanages and food-distribution sites.
"There are many who come here with religious ideas that belong more in the time of the inquisition," said Max Beauvoir, head of Haiti's Voodoo Priest's Association, which represents thousands of priests and priestesses.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Max Beauvoir, head of Haiti's Voodoo Priest's Association "???....genoroso " Father Max will now hear your confession " ........".Haiti's Voodoo Priest's Association " now that is an ID card I would like in my wallet......" Dont leave home without it "
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
the red neck honky cracker goobers were just trying to help Josean is correct "No good deed goes unpunished "
Written by: josean, 1 Feb 2010 7:36 AM
From: United States
Banistan,
Weren't you abducted and trafficked out of Herr Frankenstein’s Lab in Transylvania?
Cause your to old to be one of Herr Mengele’s missing links!
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
The United Nations has mobilized an evacuation force for the adopted children of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie after they announced their divorce yesterday.
After news came through yesterday that Hollywood film stars Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had split, the United Nations intervened to try and repatriate the adopted children back to where they had been bought.
"This is a huge operation and we are working against time here. We are mobilizing helicopters, trucks and transport aircraft. The amount of children that Angelina adopted is a force to be reckoned with; some of them from Africa, South America and the Far East. It is a massive logistical operation that will take many resources to pull off. We appeal to everyone to show some restraint during the rescue mission," UNICEF's Senior Director of Operations, Gonzalez Demerera, told CNN yesterday.
From: United States
The sad thing is that there are numerous missionaries in both Haiti and the DR who have helped people of both nations live better lives now (and if you believe their message, a better life later, too). These people from Idaho will hurt way more people than just the kids they were trying to steal. They will hurt the missionaries in the DR and Haiti who are serving the Dominicans and Haitians there, giving up cushy American lifestyle and at their own expense there most of the time. They will get a bad reputation unfairly. All I read on here are snide and ignorant comments from people in Europe and the US who really don't know much about what's happening in their own country. When will you all be back in the DR to lend a hand? Look for me, I'll be there helping.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
Cargo cult...........
A cargo cult is a type of religious practice that may appear in traditional tribal societies in the wake of interaction with technologically advanced cultures. The cults are focused on obtaining the material wealth (the "cargo") of the advanced culture through magical thinking and religious rituals and practices, believing that the wealth was intended for them by their deities and ancestors...what does this sound like ?........Yes you guessed it
From: United States
a BIG welcome back to the great Belial. glad to see you are fine, my old buddy.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
commie and commie sympathizer ......together again
From: United States
yes, we have to form a united front against the types who see themselves as exceptional, and who were put on earth to aggrandise themselves at the cost of the suffering of the majority.
Written by: generoso, 1 Feb 2010 12:08 PM
From: United States, Quisqueya La Bella
Blu
I know and have many good references of Max Beauvoir, the pope of Haitian voo doo, and he is a very profound and intelligent man. Not only that he represents a political-religious force with great social impact in Haiti, that is even recognized "under the table", and on the QT by many local and foreign political leaders, including our own. Do not underestimate or try to discredit a very respected religious figure in Haiti. There are some things that many don't understand about the voo do psyche and followers that are 60% of the Haitian population.
Written by: josean, 1 Feb 2010 12:10 PM
From: United States
"voo do psyche and followers that are 60% of the Haitian population."
As well as 100% of the METRO supporters!
From: United States
is it just me or do the last two paragraphs of this article seem like it doesnt belong to this article? they start by talking about the americans the kids then the last two paragraphs are talking about something completely different.
From: United States, Faber College Double Secret Probation
you do that voo doo that you do .....so well
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If you live in the USA you know that this is money, adoptions cost around 50.000 to 70.000 if you don have that money you won't adopt.
PERIOD.
Don't matter what kind of agency is.
this trolls should be deported and never allowed to come back!...
Trolls? No these are not trolls. They look like rednecks wanting to make some extra bucks, and using
religion as an excuse.
Human suffering traffickers is more like it, and they should have book thrown at them, and do charity work in the Haitian jail system, taking care of the prisoners.
They do look like like humanoid, brain-washed fundamentalist-clones.
PS Last two paragraphs are another headline.
The first is the opportunism of these baptists who I am sure knew full well about all the necessary procedures.
The second story has been featured on the TV and relates to the cessation of flights to the USA of about 200 critically injured people who urgently need treatment in the USA .There has been a dreadful mess up in the US administration and currently these 200 people are being denied entry to the USA simply because it has not been worked out who will pay ..makes a mockery of all the comments from Obama, Bush and Clinton ..hopefully will be resolved today
You cannot cross the US border with mexican orphans either. You just don't have the right to do that. People need to understand that Haiti and the DR are separate countries and the DR should not get all this burden from Haitian immigration.
Hey, let's go to monkey island, since we are white and speak in foreign language, they will bend over, worship us and give us their kids as sacred offerings. Then we use our holier than thou powers to scape to the other side where the other monkeys known as Dominicans will allow us to to scape back to civilization in exchange for mirrors and shinny objects.
UNGA UNGA MARUNGA!!!!
Of course, these gringos will get a slap in wrist and taken to the DR, where they would wait for another chance to go back to business.
" Of course, these gringos will get a slap in wrist and taken to the DR, where they would wait for another chance to go back to business".............Were the red necked honky crackers were harvesting organs ?
thums up again.
religion , when are you gonna stop eating up our planet?...
You surprise me.... now Im starting to have high hopes about you
Blut do agree with you, he just have a hard time expressing it.
Man and I was just over it.... then you hit again. Im in shock and traumatized, need to go buy some vazeline just in case.
American way of thinking. Superiority. Gods own country. Everybody else in this world want to cherish the American dream, hence why educate on other countries culture and custom. When the Americans arrive = 3 X Hurray - problem solved.
do pick it up but dont unpack it.
Can someone please tell these poeple that GOD IS DEAD....
Your inferiority complexes are showing. But then again maybe its not just a complex.
Ricky,
"The second story has been featured on the TV and relates to the cessation of flights to the USA of about 200 critically injured people who urgently need treatment in the USA .There has been a dreadful mess up in the US administration and currently these 200 people are being denied entry to the USA simply because it has not been worked out who will pay ..makes a mockery of all the comments from Obama, Bush and Clinton ..hopefully will be resolved today."
In this tragic and horrific situation in Haiti, with a lot of people needing medical attention.......
Yet another example of the American mentality:
money first or you will die. Disgusting.
As for Dreadlocks, Platano peleo, and blutasky, give it a break boys. Leave all that crap to the Al Sharpton's and Pat Robertson"s of the world. They are doing a f-ing great job of being racists enough for everyone.
Regarding the USA. I am proud of my country most of the time. We are always the first to help and fight other's wars. People don't cross the border TO Mexico in search of a better life for their families (although they are returning b/c no work in US)
Assistance and help to Haiti: Yes, ABSOLUTELY
Integrity and Respect of Dominican laws and borders: Read prior response.
Assistance and help to Haiti: Yes, ABSOLUTELY
Integrity and Respect of Dominican laws and borders: Read prior response.
What if these kids were US citizens?
I support Dread's point, but I'd go even further, let's prosecute the Idaho potatoes under Haitian laws first...20 years and then send them to DR for another trial...30 years...That would send a good message to other Human traffickers.
“The goal was to rescue orphaned children who needed help,” Drew Ham, a member of the Meridian, Idaho-based church, said in a telephone interview today. A Jan. 12 earthquake in Haiti killed more than 150,000
The group was detained because the children lacked necessary adoption papers from the Haitian government, Laura Silsby, the group’s leader, said in an interview with the Associated Press yesterday. Ham said he has not been able to contact Silsby and is in touch with U.S. State Department officials to obtain information about the legal proceedings in the case. He said he doesn’t know if the group has been charged with any crime.
Silsby was planning to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic to save Haitian children from the hands of human trafficking groups, a plan that pre-dated the earthquake, Ham said.
“This has been a dream of hers for quite some time,” . “Now it looks like her group was arrested for exactly the crime she wants to help combat.”
these are the same do-gooders who gunned down a doctor in thier Right to Life belief, but it's those same do-gooders who refuse to feed the child once they are born..
I know the prefect sentece....
BANG BANG
As for the US not accepting any more cases of severely injured people, governor Frist of Florida, a right wing Republican (the same people who brought two wars to the world, as well as almost allowing the world's financial system to melt down) decided on his own that he did not want the inhabitants of hisstate to foot the bill for these survivors medical care so he arbitrarily (consulted nobody) shut down the flights.
After no WMDs were discovered in Iraq, GWB said "God instructed me to attack Iraq and I did."
A US Zionist caught spying in Cuba says something called God told him to distribute advanced communication devices to Cuban Zionists.
Now, 10 US Nazarenes say something called the "Lord" told them to traffick in humans.
Conventionally, divine beings have a good side that consists of God and angels and bad side that consists of Satan and demoms. But these US citizens always allege that God and angels, the good side of divinity, told the Americans of faith to do something bad. If these US citizens are not lying, then God and angels seem to be turning into evil forces. On the other hand, if the US citizens are lying, one wonders how anybody can be so low as to defame divine beings.
Organizations of Nazarenes, both Catholic and Protestant, have pedophilic reputations.
For 60 years, SOS Children's Villages has been dedicated to the long-term care and prevention of orphaned and abandoned children. Through Villages, Family Strengthening Programs, and other initiatives, SOS Children's Villages impacts the lives of over 1 million people each year. In 2009, SOS Children's Villages received the Save the World Award. SOS has also received numerous other honors including the Mother Teresa Gold Medal, the Conrad N. Hilton Humanitarian Prize, and the Vietnam Friendship Medal. For more information about SOS Children's Villages, visit http://www.sos-usa.org.
ON THE SPOT....
TRY READING THE TRUTH.....Conviction Angers Abortion Activists
Testifying in his own defense, an unremorseless Roeder insisted he had committed a justified act for the defense of unborn children by killing Dr. George Tiller, one of the country's few physicians to offer late-term abortions. It was a bold legal strategy that, if successful, had the potential to radically alter the debate over abortion by reducing the price for committing such an act of violence.
In God We Trust...No One else
http://www.theledger.com/article/....viction-Angers-Abortion-Activists
The Rev. Donald Spitz, of Chesapeake, Va., who runs the Army of God Web site supporting violence against abortion providers, said the rejection of that argument has upset those who view Roeder as a hero.
"I know there is not a lot of good feeling out there - everybody is pretty angry," he said.
WTF...
Yet these same people snear down their nose at the poor and only help is it helps themselves First!!!
No matter if they are mother Theresa reincarnate what they did, and how they did it.....was wrong.
Please donate if you can, and pass on to others and companies that might be able to provide donations or assistance.
MEDICAL NEEDS: Dialysis Patients/Glucose Strips/Financial Support for Hotels
The dialysis patients have all been evacuated three hours away to Rapid City, SD. They are staying in hotels for at least a week and half, probably longer. The Tribe is looking into reimbursement sources from CMS and IHS, but in the interim financial contributions are needed to help the families pay for their hote
The Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation is one of the most impoverished communities in the United States. http://www.sioux.org<http://www.sioux.org/> It is about the size of Connecticut: yet there are only a handful of generators on the Reservation, the water pump station is down so there is no running water, the gas stations hasn’t been able to pump gas, and the Tribal grocery store has lost all its perishables.
This probably falls in the category of “NO good deed goes unpunished!"
Blu
Details are starting to "get revealed", some of the children's parents were alive.
Nobody should try to force their kind religion on others, this is why some of the Muslim faith, despise so much the "Crusaders", referring to Christians.
Fundamentalism or believing that only you are right all the time, is causing most of the wars on our planet at present.
It's true some of the older kids in the ground have said that they know their parents are still alive and they have given authorities addresses and phone number to where now they have located the parents of some of the kids so to me this doesn't sound like a humanitarian act.This is starting to sound just like I thought child traffic.If a crime was committed then I'm all for maximum sentence to all the criminals involve in it for taking advantage of such disaster to commit heartless crimes like this one.
they are the first one to complaind about amigration ,but they trafficking in dr ,punish theme ,do like usa make un exemple,or you will have 1000 more after , because they will think that ok, leonel punish theme please be a stand up man again.
imagine if it was dominican doing that in usa, oooooooooooo fuck, they will kill themes. do the same ,fuck themes,AMERICAN THEY THINKING THEY CAN DO WANT EVER THEY WANT WHEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE THERE COUNTRY ,AND IN THEY COUNTRY THEY SHIT THER PANS
Christian missionaries alone run or support an estimated 2,000 primary schools attended by some 600,000 students - a third of Haiti's school-aged population, according to government figures. Church groups also run vital hospitals, orphanages and food-distribution sites.
"There are many who come here with religious ideas that belong more in the time of the inquisition," said Max Beauvoir, head of Haiti's Voodoo Priest's Association, which represents thousands of priests and priestesses.
Banistan,
Weren't you abducted and trafficked out of Herr Frankenstein’s Lab in Transylvania?
Cause your to old to be one of Herr Mengele’s missing links!
The United Nations has mobilized an evacuation force for the adopted children of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie after they announced their divorce yesterday.
After news came through yesterday that Hollywood film stars Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had split, the United Nations intervened to try and repatriate the adopted children back to where they had been bought.
"This is a huge operation and we are working against time here. We are mobilizing helicopters, trucks and transport aircraft. The amount of children that Angelina adopted is a force to be reckoned with; some of them from Africa, South America and the Far East. It is a massive logistical operation that will take many resources to pull off. We appeal to everyone to show some restraint during the rescue mission," UNICEF's Senior Director of Operations, Gonzalez Demerera, told CNN yesterday.
A cargo cult is a type of religious practice that may appear in traditional tribal societies in the wake of interaction with technologically advanced cultures. The cults are focused on obtaining the material wealth (the "cargo") of the advanced culture through magical thinking and religious rituals and practices, believing that the wealth was intended for them by their deities and ancestors...what does this sound like ?........Yes you guessed it
I know and have many good references of Max Beauvoir, the pope of Haitian voo doo, and he is a very profound and intelligent man. Not only that he represents a political-religious force with great social impact in Haiti, that is even recognized "under the table", and on the QT by many local and foreign political leaders, including our own. Do not underestimate or try to discredit a very respected religious figure in Haiti. There are some things that many don't understand about the voo do psyche and followers that are 60% of the Haitian population.
"voo do psyche and followers that are 60% of the Haitian population."
As well as 100% of the METRO supporters!