Let us maintain a sense of decorum

You have done NOTHING for Dominican EDUCATION in violation of the Constitutional mandate and now you are going to help HAITIAN Schools.

LIE-onel Fernandez you have no SHAME!

600 thousand children are taught in Haiti by Christian missionary schools before the quake

The DR schools need help too as the Haitian schools, and any monies we allocate to Haitian school children we are taking away from our own.
Pretending that the DR is a first world power, and giving away what we can not afford to, just puts more stress in our own school kids, that sometimes don't even have a classroom or roof over their heads. A few days ago Dominicans where staring at the sad photo of Dominican school kids taking classes under a tree, without even chairs to sit.
Now a few days later we have so much that we can spare 15 mobile classrooms, and repair another 100 mobile units (original press release did not mention schools) and send to Haiti, while over 100 of our own schools where damaged by the earthquake and in need of repair?
Charity is fine, but we should put our own house in order before our neighbors, and follow the presidential oath of office, to be like a father to all DOMINICANS.

Anything to make His Majesty Lionel the1st look good.

I honestly think Leonel should give the "ALL FOR Haiti act" a rest, we had done enough, Dominican schools need help too and Mr. President... you are not the President of Haiti, Preval is.

Dominicans need attention too and being politically correct isn't gonna help your own people.

... THE DOMINICAN PEOPLE THAT IS.

The guy is a fraud.

I sort of have to agree with Josean on this one! Cheers!

Sad to say some of you are so blind by ignorance and fail to see the play here. LF is playing his position very well. There about to be 3Billion USD not pesos of reconstruction money ready to flow into Haiti, thats for the first year alone this is going to be the biggest boom to the Dominican economy,specially in the construction sector,agro business sector is going to get a boost too,never mind the consulting fees.

PD is correct so all these people that think DR aid is too much think again and stop whining ......this will be a windfall let us hope our greedy politicos dont steal it all

I hope they use the aid boom to then pump money into DR schools... and fix the pot holes

PD
I have heard all those promises from Haitians before and putting the carrot in front of the donkey.
Friend, 85% of all the donations and aid committed to Haiti in 2009 did not materialize at all. I also heard cock and bull stories about Haiti has gold, petroleum, hidden pirate treasure and other fairy tales.
Our foreign policy or aid to Haiti can not be based on empty promises of reimbursement or future gains from good deeds, if so then we are being duped (again) by our slickest neighbors, and by the international community at large, specially the USA, since they don't want the nightmare of mass Haitian exodus to the Florida shores.

Generoso

The reason 85% of the aid money promised in 09. Have not materialized it is because Haiti does not have the capacity to received all the money promise at once. The int'll community does not want to get burn by the Kleptocrats. They have learn their lessons.

In regards to empty promises I believed Bill Clinton is going to be the new Viceroy oops the new HNIC, This is going to be a 10year effort I doubt people like him will put his reputation on a cause he did not believed in.After all he still represent the office of the Presidency of the United States. Beside I believe this is a global effort,not just an uncle Sam thing. I was surprise to see even the Alba countries pledging USD300mil. I believe LF have learn from the French mistake in Iraq.

Yes I must admit you guys are pretty hood rich over there, School being held under trees,sub Sahara Africa style,but got shiny new metro in your capital, and I thought Style over substance was a black man thing.

dummies, haiti belongs to the dr... its a dr municipio.

Now I am all for helping Haiti however when you already robbed from Education to pay for your crap Metro no one uses this should be considered a crime.

Leonel Fernandez. ,please ask Elizabeth Debrosse if she plans to ask these bilionnaires who comprise 3% of the Haitian population but control s$80 of the economy if finally they are going to curb their greed and their racism toward haitians and come to the help of Haiti
Leonel, I undertand your good intentions, but as they say in French " la charite bien ordonne commence par soi meme"
Here they are names of those who could share some of their wealth :
Acra
Madsen
Apaid
Aristide
Berhmann
Bigio
Baussan
Nadal
Coles
Vorbes
Mevs
Brantd
Kouri
Sada
Boulos
Loukas
and you too Elizabeth who owns a $900.000 mansion in Coral Gables, Florida ,an engagement gift from Preval

Jose n ann ,please stay out of this .This is between me and Lionel Fernandez

Leonel Fernandez. ,please ask Elizabeth Debrosse if she plans to ask these bilionnaires who comprise 3% of the Haitian population but control 80% of the economy if finally they are going to curb their greed and their racism toward haitians and come to the help of Haiti
Leonel, I undertand your good intentions, but as they say in French " la charite bien ordonne commence par soi meme"
Here they are names of those who could share some of their wealth :
Acra
Madsen
Apaid
Aristide
Berhmann
Bigio
Baussan
Nadal
Coles
Vorbes
Mevs
Brantd
Kouri
Sada
Boulos
Loukas
and you too Elizabeth who owns a $9000.000 mansion in Coral Gables, Florida ,an engagement gift from Preval

Jose n ann ,please stay out of this .This is between me and Lionel Fernandez

Elizabet Debrosse. I am taking notes .The 15 mobile classrooms are being donated" DONATED"
I hope that you will not charge the poor Haitians famlies a fee for their children to use them.

I think you meant to write 80% didn't you Skinner?

jose n ann thanks.I hate to be your friend today but I have no choice because I am so damn mad

and is it $9,000,000 ?

etiennc01

" la charite bien ordonne commence par soi meme"
Oye papo!
you write pretty good french,are sure you was not born in haiti.

On the topic.
This haitian leadership got to go ,it cannot be trusted.

$9,000,000 house??? that is insane.

ettiennc,
let bill clinton run things

etiennc01
You forgot (blié) or omitted the following big shots:

Nader
Gardere
Brandt
Cassis
Stephen
Joseph
Prosper
Bennett
Phillippe
Magloire
Constant
Estimé


and a few others I can't remember right now.

She looks way better than Michelle Obama :-)

ETienneC

Do you know of any country where it is the private sector that provide social services education,and infrastructures to the people. Yes in Canada as a lifetime Student I believe you get to enjoy the perk of socialism which is why you have so much time in your hand. It is at the expense of the Canadian tax payers.,it is not because of the Haitian Elite you had to emigrate to Canada,its your government that failed you. Stop hating what you envy. My family made their fortune by hard work,we started back in 47. I do not believe any of those names you mention ever had the opportunity to rob Haiti for its coffer.It was the deed of the Duvalier's and Mr Aristide and his click, its was the ignorant ones like you who gave Francois Duvalier and his son the presidency for life,remember.

Last I check the private sector role is to create jobs,but the government to create the climate.Both sides supposed to work together not being antagonistic toward each other.

jose n ann thanks.I hate to be your friend today but I have no choice because I am so damn mad

No problem E.

I grow on people, sometimes as friend or like a fungus depending on their perspective!

Cont
Wall Street is the bastion of wealth in America,yet no more than 20% of the US population own all of that wealth. You saw who the US Government bailed out while 1 out of 8 Americans are on food stamps .

Lastly, I doubt you travel much,but if you took the time out to do some research you will find out the wealth in all third
world countries is usually owned by those that are close to white, it is not a Haitian phenomenon, and its not by accident. Remember the African despots like Mobutu and Idi Amin Dada slogan Africa is for Africans,what do you think that was about.

Cantave , Haiti's dilemma and shortcomings have been puzzling the world around for so long and Haiti has became so much of a public nuisance that the country has became a laboratory for nation building experiments
We feel sorry for this poor people that have been traumatized, exploited and punked for so many years that we the civilized world have became honorary Haitians now.

i have sent more that $ 200 to help out and I plan on sending more

The whole world is mobilising to help Haiti including artists
A "We are the world" cd will be selling to collect money for Haiti.

Roso ,thanks for helping me compiling the list of the thieves who have dilapidated the Haitian coffers.
As Ray Joseph the apologist for Preval put it rightly so "Haitian people are docile "

What seems to blow me away is not only the greed , the racism of the alien and local parasitic elite but the arrogant , shameless ,and sadistic behavior the have displayed during this tragedy

patdiamod , thanks for justifying the behavior of the parasitic elite.
Haiti will never be the same anymore.

ashe said


Written by: josean, 11 Feb 2010 7:51 AM
From: United States

You have done NOTHING for Dominican EDUCATION in violation of the Constitutional mandate and now you are going to help HAITIAN Schools.

LIE-onel Fernandez you have no SHAME!
GOOD COMMENT.
but it has nothing to with SHAME.
its all about this president GOING INTO THE HISTORY BOOKS.
he NEEDS the whole WORLD TO RESPECT HIM.at this POINT i believe HE REALLY does not give MUCH THOUGHTS ABOUT ON HOW THE DOMINICAN PEOPLES.UPPORT HIM OR NOT ITS ALL ABOUT "HIMSELF".
hes the PEACE-MAKER ------ THE MAKER of the MERTO..AND LIST WILL GO ON.
SAD TO SAY THOUGH HES NOT THE MAKER OF THE FUTURE OF THE YOUNG DOMINICANS that REALLY need him NOW IN THEIR LIVES. time is running out .....for all YOUNG DOMINICANS. they only look at a life full of PROBLEMS AND GRIEF.

lovingit says "Elizabeth Debrosse looks better that Michelle Obama"
Better in what way?
Better like Sarah Palin ?

etiennc01

Better as in better looking.

"Sad to say some of you are so blind by ignorance and fail to see the play here. LF is playing his position very well. There about to be 3Billion USD not pesos of reconstruction money ready to flow into Haiti, thats for the first year alone this is going to be the biggest boom to the Dominican economy,specially in the construction sector,agro business sector is going to get a boost too,never mind the consulting fees," PatDiamond observes keenly.

oooo

But PD ... it is not "ignorance" that makes some DRs act this way.

For the extreme obsequiousness of some DRs to US imperialism is often palmed-off as super DR chauvinism.

In other words, extreme pro-US imperialist of DR origin wants aid contracts to go US imperialists, not to DR bourgeoisie. So, the pro-imperialist DR tries to drag the DR bourgeoisie out of the market, so imperialists take all by default.

After the imperial slaves stab DR bourgeoisie in the back, they say "See, I'm a super DR patriot."

Preval has been to the Dominican Republic twice since the tragedy hit Haiti.
Leonel Fernandez has also been to Haiti and he had made abundantly clear that the Dominican Republic is going to help Haiti.
He has also made it clear that he will facilitate the distribution of help from other sources.
So the question is :what the heck is Elizabeth Debrosse is doing in the Dominican Republic : posing for a few pictures and showing up her designer clothes?
As a first mother, first wife,first woman she should have been meeting with the thousands of mothers whose children bodies are roting under tons of concrete to console them.
She should have sat with the thousand of wives whose husbands bodies have been dumped in a open field to be eaten by wild animals just to uplift them
She should have embraced the thousands of women who are looking for guidance and inspiration.
Oh no, hell no ! She is avoiding Haitian people like they were lepers or had some kind of highly contagious diseas

loving it
I understand,She looks better than Michelle Obama so does Michelle Bennet

belialbrugal. i must admit that one may disagree with you but you are providing a lot of infos.
you know your stuff .

"To repair 100 schools of the around 5,000 destroyed by the quake," is the less than ambitious goal of the proposed school construction project, according to the DT.

oooo

Nobody , so far, has said how much of the aid money will be set aside for school construction and which bourgeoisie ... the USA or Canadian or DR or etc ... will do the work, because nobody knows how much aid money will pour in.

Everybody expects a lot of aid money to pour in.

Elizabeth Debrosse seems to be talking "donation" in the area of school construction, not awarding contracts for school construction out of aid money.

To get ahead of competition for the aid money for school construction, DR bourgeoisie should pounce on this opportunity to erect 100 school houses, showing the world what the DR has actually done in Haiti on school houses.

If US imperialists latter take the school construction contract away from DR bourgeoisie, everybody will see what greedy dogs US imperialists are.

etiennc01
Chill it man, go have some Barbancourt Five Star. LOL.

DR bourgeoisie has to show that cost for the 100 houses comes in, far under what the US imperialists could possibly budget for each school house.

DR bourgeoisie has to show it can do the work of putting up these 100 school houses in record time under the extreme circumstances that now exist in Haiti. [Imperialists, with the Haitian seaports and airports they control, only make excuses.]

THE DR SUPER CHAUVINIST: DR bourgeoisie, don't you dare build those 100 school houses in Haiti. Build some school houses here in the DR. Those Haitians don't deserve any schools anyway.

DR BOURGEOISIE: I took your advice and didn't build 100 schools in Haiti. Now, I watch as stinking US imperialists walk away with $100 million contract to do school construction in Haiti.

THE DR SUPER CHAUVINIST: The US imperialists paid the DR super patriots $100 each to keep the DR bourgeoisie out of the race for the school construction contract in Haiti. We just did our job.

The Haitian national income is about one billion dollars a year.

About 70% of Haiti's trade is with the US imperialists, 9% with DR bourgeoisie, 3% with Canadian bourgeoisie, and the remaining 18% with rest of the world.

The US imperialists believe that the DR's 9% share and the 18% share of the rest of the world are too large.

if you think that the international community is going to make good of their word to reimburse us the money spent in Haiti, I tell you stop smoking and drinking. It will never happen, why don't we think about our dominicanidad, it will disappear completely in about 20 years with all of the illegal immigrants coming into our country. Leonel only want to be politically correct, who needs that when we have such a great necessity in our country's education system.
More than 50% of university students drop out, not because they don't want to study but because they have to work low paying job just to survive. He should be ashamed of himself.

We need new laws, just like the Europeans, only the people born to citizens can be Dominican citizens, we don't have the money to solve their problems. I will have my own topics posted. This is getting out of control and I will start a movement of conscious we need to defend our sovereignty.

this leonel guy has become comical ,

Roso, I am going to chill and gulp down my last shot of Barbancourt.
Historically,the role of Haitian first lady has always been limited to setting up some bogus philantropic foundation.

They go around the world begging for fund to carry out the works of the foundation and they channel the funds to their bank accounts in Swizerland,

They avoid the people except on some rare occasions they will show up at an event just to flaunt their new lines of clothing, their new hair styles, and their expensive jewlry.

A Haitian first lady needs to show some maturity ,some passion,some compassion. They need to leave their comfort zone and redefine their role in this most terribel time in Haitians lives.

Michelle Obama has shown what the role of a first mother and a first wife should be.

She is on TV daily urging Americans to come to the help of Haitian mothers and wives who will never see their children or their husbands again

"If you think that the international community is going to make good of their word to reimburse us the money spent in Haiti, I tell you stop smoking and drinking. It will never happen, " Concerneddominican insists.

0000

Liberality can be reciprocated but it can never be reimbursed. What one does in the spirit of liberality is not done for the sake of reimbursement. What the DR gives away, it should not latter seek rerimbursement.

There will be a billion dollars in contracts handed out for reconstruction in Haiti. These contracts will have nothing to do with reimbursement for past acts of liberality. The contracts will be for performance of future obligations, not reimbursement for past performances.

Back-stabbing DR chauvinists don't want DR bourgeoisie to get its share on these reconstruction contracts, becuase DR chauvinists grovel before US imperialists who badly want a billion dollars in reconstruction contracts.

"So, don't compete for contracts against USA."

Rene Preval may have sent LF a message by Elizabeth Debrosse, concerning who and how the billion dollar in reconstruction contracts will be awarded.

From the Haitian point of view, it's best to have as many of the reconstruction contracts as possible awarded to the DR bourgeoisie. (1) Big savings in transportation costs will result from the DR getting the contracts. (2) A lot of the construction work will be done by documented or undocumented Haitians workers residing in the DR. This may mean a boost in remittances from the DR to Haiti. Remittances already constitute over a quarter of the Haitian GDP. (3) The DR bourgeoisie is a lot less corrupt than US bourgeoisie which "overbills" ... that is, cheats ... with extreme intensity.

The message that Elizabeth Debrosse likely brought to LF from her husband is "LF, don't freak out because US imperialists are trying to steal DR's cut of the aid money. LF, hold your peace. We'll see that DR gets its cut. "

b

You have done NOTHING for Dominican EDUCATION in violation of the Constitutional mandate and now you are going to help HAITIAN Schools.

Josean ,agree 100% ..you are like a fungus!

Coming from a jock itch like you, thats a compliment!

"You have done NOTHING for Dominican EDUCATION in violation of the Constitutional mandate and now you are going to help HAITIAN Schools," Pepe32 denounces LF.

oooo

Pepe32, the apparent DR chauvinist, doesn't want the DR bourgeoisie to get hundreds of millions of dollars in school construction contracts out of the Haitian aid money, not because the apparent DR chauvinist believes LF "have done NOTHING for Dominican EDUCATION," but because the these apparent DR chauvinists elevate the interests of the US imperialists above those of the DR bourgeoisie in the international competitiion for the school construction money in Haiti. The US imperialists are desperately competeing against the DR bourgeoisie and others to get as much of the Haitian aid money for school construction as they can.

It is not about "Dominican education," but it is about business and about competition among cappies for profit. It is only incidental that the contracts are in the field of ecucation.

If the DR bourgeoisie competes for the Haitian school construction contracts, the DR bourgeoisie may or may not win the lion share or any share of the Haitian aid money set aside for school construction.

But if the DR bourgeoisie does NOT compete ... as these apparently DR chauvinists adamantly demand ... the DR bourgeoisie will surely not win the lion share or any share of the Haitian aid money set aside for school construction.

The US imperialists will walk off with the Haitian aid money as they are plotting to do.

The victory of the US imperialists over the DR bourgeoisie will ... once again... thrill the apparent DR chauvinists, some irrelevantly arguing that Haiti doesn't deserve to have schools and others irrelevantly arguing that DR deserves schools more than Haiti.

This is about the allocation of Haitian aid money.

Do you dig?

commie stooge instigator tries to stir the pot with propaganda which only imbeciles will believe

One billion dollars of Haitian aid money is already waiting in US banks. More is expected.

"The Obama administration is quietly advocating a plan to reconstruct Haiti that could involve a central role for former President Bill Clinton. The plan, designed by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's staff and presented to top Haitian officials in recent days, calls for the creation of an Interim Haiti Recovery Commission to oversee the ``urgent early recovery'' over the next 18 months,"

See : U.S. paving way to rebuild Haiti
http://www.miamiherald.com/1630/story/1473824.html

According to the Miami Herald "The commission's top priority: create a Haitian Development Authority to plan and coordinate billions in foreign assistance for at least 10 years. "

Haitian Government and DR bourgeoisie want the DR bourgeoisie to get a good chunk of the reconstruction contracts and money.

US imperialists and apparent DR chauvinists don't want the DR bourgeoisie to get a dime.

Let us have Raul and Danny and nutty Hugo administer the money ......that would be brilliant

I never heard about this?