epa lante que vamos !!!
el presidente Lion-nel Fernandez es de herencia dominicana

Ouch; I love my kitty fernandie negro. Were are you sweetie. Shit my neighbors up from SFM have eaten him. Damn this is the second time this year!

Basta

Can you repeat all of that in English or Spanish so the general public can understand?

Is Basta, Josean and other aromatic herbs to divert the topic in every positive note about the DR.

If the world praises Dr for doing something good they post stuff about the DNA of Tiberian monks or talk about the temperature in Rio de Janeiro.

Pathetic bunch, aren't they?

lol belly... I almost spilled my orange juice

Xwill

the funny things is I was drinking some orange juice too while I wrote that. LOL Maybe is all in the juice and we should give Basta some too!

I think Basta added too much brugal blanco into his orange juice when he wrote that..lol

lol basta..i want some brugal too its mi compleanos .....cono cono

Next month, we should do Ethiopia, Somalia, the Philippines, El Salvador, Colombia, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama,...............Bulgaria, Georgia, Tajikistan, etc.

Why are we so deserving of the special recognition?

Let's start achieving meaningful accomplishments in significant numbers in all important areas [not sports!], including: medicine; literature; engineering and science; social sciences; etc. Yes, we have a few, but not enough to be worthy of bragging rights. As a goal, I would set Asians as a target, and try to get within 50 % of their achievements in 10 years. That would be an accomplishment we could all be proud of. Look, it isn't entirely impossible and the Jews have been doing very well in all these areas for many years.

Anyway, these would be the kinds of accomplishment meritorious of praise. I really don't need to itemize much the attributes we are currently famous for here in US, and they are not exactly meritorious.

MJEV.

Felicitaciones a Francis Mendez que con motivo del mes de la herencia Dominicana, el Museo de la ciudad de Nueva York le rendira un tributo manana Viernes 19 desde la 6:00 pm. El invito a uno de los pioneros de la bachata a Don Edilio Paredes para que haga un poco de musica, estan todos invitados.... La actividad sera en el mismo museo en el 1220 de la 5ta. Avenida en Manhathan.

I'll pass.

If we did something beneficial to the city and it's people we should be praised. If we don't do anyhting meaningful to help mankind and that can affect generations, there should be no bruhaha about.

Perez,

With all due respect, what exactly have Dominicans in NY, or USA for that matter, done of significance and to help mankind, to merit this recognition?

Empty and worthless awards of this type only contribute to demean us, polarize us and promote racial hatred and resentment. Why not just take "walk and carry a big stick" sort of attitude, be quiet about it? Why do we need recognition? Is that why we do everything? We should not endeavor to undertake any activities with the expectation of thanks and recognition; if we do, then we are doing it for all the wrong reasons.

You know, is like the person who is smart: he doesn't need to be told so, especially by lesser beings.

People who seek recognition, in my opinion, have low self esteem and crave attention. Actually, I think this fits us to a tee.

BTW, when was the last time you saw the Chinese or Indians demand such recognition? Unquestionably, they are much more accomplished than us.

MJEV.

Yo entiendo y respeto su punto de vista, entiendo que no todo el mundo piensa igual y si son personas que no entienden la sociedad. No podemos cambiar el mundo, esta heccho y exite una sociedad que hace actos de reconocimientos. No se de donde son, y lamento mucho que crecieron sin el reconocimiento de sus padres que son los que nos dan la educacion domestica y nos ensenan a sobrevivir en la sociedad.

And BTW, this is not the first time that Francis Mendez is recognize for his work, but before you compare the other comunities please keep in mind that none of us demand a recognition.

Life is short, smile and wave.

Good weather month......that should keep them indoors.

Zolia,

I am not especially familiar with Francis Mendez. What has he/she exactly accomplished of great significance? What in his accomplishments elevates him above rest, expectations of his stature in government, etc.

We, as Dominicans and Latins in general, need to recognize that we are effectively guests in this country, and that this country has its unique language: English, and culture and we need to respect those facts. We need to assimilate, not change it into what we left behind, escaped. If it was so good that it must be preserved, then why did we leave it in the first place?

I don't ever want to make another call and hear: "To continue in Spanish pres 1; for English, press 2". This is wrong and totally disrespectful and really demeans us and conveys a message that we are not smart enough as those other immigrants, who didn't demand translation and assimilated and became CEO's, congressmen, astronauts, scientists, etc.

Let's compete on leveled field.

MJEV.

Yo estoy muy orgullosa de ser latina y de tener la capacidad para entender que este pais nos necesita.

Entiendo que hay personas que no tienen identidad, lastima que sus padres no le ensenaron valores, personalidad y orgullo, pero todo eso es lo que siento cuando veo personas ya mayores, ni hablar de los jovenes que son Judios y Anglos asistiendo al College para aprender a hablar espanol.

Francis Mendez es uno mas de los latinos destacados en la ciudad de New York, no en politica, porque por lo que veo en el mundo de usted no existe el espectaculo, pero bueno aqui le puedo dejar una pequena entrevista que le hicieron en una ocacion, a un ser humilde y orgulloso de sus raices, y eso vale mas que mil idiomas.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes-life-magazine/2006/1030/131.html

Al parecer en su afan de copiar a una raza que no es la suya no se ha enterado que este pais tiene latinos en todos lados, congresistas, astronauras y cientificos. Shame on you.

Zolia,

We must be careful with our arrogance, for we might expose our ignorance.

Fist of all, I am a pretty accomplished scientist myself, with 40 patents to my name and several more pending. I am a member of the Inventors Hall of Fame, class of 2004. I am a leader in the area of alternative energy, including compressed natural gas propulsion and fuel cell.

Please do not delude yourself into somehow believing that you are somehow a better Dominican or a prouder one. Pride which is not based on meaningful accomplishments is meaningless. Heck, gangsters in LA are very proud people, but what does that pride mean? Is it something we should emulate? I think not.

I see PRicans all the time being proud of I don't know what, when most of them cannot even locate their island on a map. Heck, most of them are effectively citizens without a country, for they were born here: 3rd generation welfare recipients! Is that something to be proud of? I think not.

Continued:

I see similarly in the dreadful Dominican Pride Parade. I see lots of people being drunk and loud and practicing thuggery and littering and, frankly, I don't feel very proud about that.

You are totally missing the call of my cry and, instead, hiding behind a curtain of pride that I hope is on solid foundation and par with the notable accomplishments of other races.

Please understand clearly that my goal is to push us to compete on leveled field and to be judged strictly on the basis and significance of our accomplishments and contributions, without special considerations or false pretenses or allowance for being a minority.

Personally, I would never accept an award premised on my minority status-ever, under no circumstances! I've earned everything accorded to me, on equal footing and on the strength of their merit. That's the way it must be, if we are to have any real relevance.

Continued:

I hope we can both understand each other's position with greater clarity now.

BTW, you've taken some liberties with your thinly disguised insults, so a couple of corrections are in order. First of all, my daughter is a performing artist on Broadway in NYC. My aunt was an opera singer who performed at the New York Metropolitan House. My cousin is an orchestra leader in Miami and is featured regularly on TV; I also have a cousin in the Venezuelan wing of the family who is also one of foremost orchestra leaders in that country. My PRican wing of family has way too many musicians to mention. I'll leave those still in France out because I am not close to them.

I play the saxophone; my son the guitar and keyboard-he has his own band in Boston; my wife the flute; my daughter, in addition to being an actress, also plays the violin and has performed at Carnegie Hall.

Again, this is why we must be careful with our arrogance, so as not to expose our ignorance.

MJEV.

Zolia,

you wrote: "Al parecer en su afan de copiar a una raza que no es la suya no se ha enterado que este pais tiene latinos en todos lados, congresistas, astronauras y cientificos. Shame on you."

I am still fuming about this, losing self-control.

You are such a hypocrite. So why did you come to this country if not to emulate the "gringo", acquire some of his riches? Fact is that not only are you misguided and a hypocrite but also an ingrate.

Look, I may come from white side of the street, but I am not a racist and treat everyone with due respect and dignity-although "Mucho Loco" makes it extremely challenging at times.

A set of grandparents were the children of French diplomats, who brought the "Cable Lyonais" [predecessor to Western Union] to Caribbean. My great, great grandfather was the lead military musician in Napoleon's army, and I can trace my ancestry to France back almost 400 years. I don't need to pretend who I am, for I know who I am-better than most!

La arrogancia es un defecto que no tiene cabida en mi y tampoco la ignorancia, porque mis padres me enseron a estudiar para siempre poder obtener lo que deseara sin depender de nadie, y tambien me ensenaron quien soy y a donde voy.

Me acompanan dos titulos universitarios, y otro aun mejor que es el de "la experiencia de la vida" del cual estoy tambien graduada, por lo que le puedo asegurar que es usted una persona muy infeliz, incapaz de sentir orgullo por nada pues el que carece de identidad no tiene nada.

Insiste en hablar solo ingles, pero que ironia que estando usted tan orgulloso de ser "lo que no es", este entrando en "DominicanToday".

Personas como usted, piensan que la sociedad tiene la culpa de sus desgracias y en vez de compartir lo que aprenden, de mostrar como si se puede evolucionar en la vida, toman reacciones negativas. Generalmente crecen marginados y en la pobreza y tratan de ocultar su complejo de inferioridad con uno de superioridad. Que Dios le ayude.

Zoila,

So you come to DT, an English forum, writing only in Spanish, trying to shame rest of us for following rules! Give me a break!

I am very happy with my life. I have a wonderful wife and two terrific kids. I am moderately well off and own significant property in DR and US. I don't envy anyone!

I had a privileged and good upbringing and attended best schools both in DR and in US.

I also share what I know and wish for others to do similarly. In fact, there are several here whom I have tried to help get their foot into alternative energy.

You are shooting from the hip, so to speak, and letting your tongue get way ahead of your brain.

BTW, you should be more respectful and considerate of others and respond in English so they could understand you. The forum is about DR but, really, the language is clearly English.

The way you are going, I just can't wait until you take on one of the individuals with a really sharp tongue in forum.

MJEV.

Despues de leer su ultimo mensaje, pienso .......que lastima que le conteste a este senor, solo viendo la furia con que escribe y los insignificantes insultos que pone, debe usted mismo darse cuenta que esta usando los argumentos de los que pierden.

Me parece que tiene un background impresionante, sus antecesores son una maravilla, y lo felicito. Pero usted no sabe quien soy ni porque estoy aqui, lo que si le puedo asegurar que no conozco quien llego antes de Western Union, sino que se bien poco de Western Union, porque a diferencia de usted y a Dios gracias no deje parientes pobres para mandarles dinero. Pero si deje parientes educados, fundadores de la sociedad y sobre todo humildes.

And by the way, thank god that you are "not a racist and treat everyone with due respect and dignity". And you called me hypocrite? Please Mr. glomarexplorer......lol

Que viva la Republica Dominicana.

No me equivoque con usted, diciendome lo que tiene quiere decir que crecio sin nada.

Para su informacion senor yo tambien tengo mi propiedad en santo domingo, y no la compre con lo que trabajo aqui, la deje paga antes de mudarme, asimismo tengo 2 propiedades aqui en miami y como le explique usted no sabe porque estoy aqui. Pero no fue precisamente por el sueno americano que vienen muchos o por una mejor vida como ustes. Pero estoy bien, porque gracias a Dios, a lo que traje y a lo que trabajo no me falta nada.

Como le dije no vale la pena conversar un usted, total no tiene identidad es como hablar al aire.

I see that abc has a sister.

This should be lots of fun!

This person is incapable of keeping track of her overt insults, put-downs of other people.

First, she attacks my parents and up-bringing, then takes exception to my rebuttals.

All those transgressions and she has less than 10 posts! She clearly knows how to make a grand entrance! No doubt, she will make lots of friends. Too bad DT annals are paved with corpses of the likes who preceded her.

Now we'll be deluged with psycho-babble and such, from this righteous being.

She escaped to Miami with lots of money from DR, purchased property there....wonder what type of business is so lucrative in DR?

My family left for political reasons, for parents were prominently at Ciudad Nueva in 1965. Many of my parent's colleagues left for PR at time, and we already had family there. Juan Bosch and other notable ones were there as well. We still own a 65-bed motel in San Juan, PR.

MJEV.

BTW, Ms righteousness, please go back and practice some reading comprehension of your own writing so you may acquaint yourself with your barrage of insults-many of which are entirely gratuitous, transcend boundaries of reason, especially when attacking my parents . They are self-evident! Not exactly best way to make friends!

I'll give you benefit of doubt for now and hope that, upon careful reflection, you might retract some of your comments, especially those regarding my parents.

I don't think you are necessarily a bad person, and neither am I. In heat of battle many things can be said, without proper consideration, some of which could be downright offensive and our Latin blood sometimes gets in the way of proper thinking.

Perhaps we should consider fresh start.

MJEV.

So sad to see these punks ENVY and OUT-RIGHT Hate Dominicans by playing imposters and acting like they are Dominican.

How sad. You guys need to get a life and let it go.

Great News for Dominicans in NY and Dominicans in USA. Our community here is very strong and everyday we are making more strides to be more influential in the USA

I'm honor to have a day that celebrates the positive contributions Dominicans have made.

Congratulations to all Dominicans. Thank you Ruben Diaz Jr for your support of the Dominican community.

Glomarexplorer, U misunderstood me. I was trying to say that we don't deserve that much recognition. I tried to say that if we only did positive things and stuff we would've deserve it. But since we haven't done squat, we don't deserve nothing. I definitely agree with u about such showing of pride and throwing it to other people's face would promote racism and stuff. It makes it look as if we were acting like spoiled kids demanding attention. With the reputation that dominicans have worldwide(very negative mind u) I feel like Hiding! this has to stop, I hear no other people demand as much attention as dominicans. Enough! estos paisanos deben sentir verguenza!

Perez,

I understand your feelings and have absolutely no issues with your opinions.

More people should be thinking this way, eschew those accolades devoid of any substantive meaning.

What some people don't realize is that when they invite recognition for a nice and decent and compassionate disc jockey, who plays our lovely music, they are also opening the door for the likes of Rush Limbaugh and such to demand same. Under our democratic system, they should likewise be entitled. Is that what we really want? I think not.

Brother, I am with you, and I would like to see positive changes for our people that we could all be proud of, then, just like ancient olympians, we could pound our chests.

Thank you.

MJEV.

Glomarexplorer, Right on man!